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"H the K" wrote in message m... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=frMqj..._embedded#t=53 -- You just made the Freak soil his drawers. |
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Don White wrote:
"H the K" wrote in message m... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=frMqj..._embedded#t=53 -- You just made the Freak soil his drawers. Lemming. Dumb lemming. |
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On 9/29/09 7:09 PM, Don White wrote:
"H the wrote in message m... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=frMqj..._embedded#t=53 -- You just made the Freak soil his drawers. I'd bet they already were soiled. -- Birther-Deather-Tenther-Teabagger: Idiots All |
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On Sep 29, 5:58*pm, H the K wrote:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=frMqj..._embedded#t=53 -- Birther-Deather-Tenther-Teabagger: Idiots All LOL! That vid cracks me up! flashlights? laser sights in smoke/fog? Those maroons wouldn't know what hit them. Nothing like having lights say "HEAR I AM! WHACK ME!" besides. unlike the paper targets, I really dont' know of anyone, who would stick their head out around a corner for a good 2-3 seconds while the "good guys" took stance-aim -fire. but it looks cool in a gun ad. dolts! |
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On Tue, 29 Sep 2009 18:13:58 -0700 (PDT), Tim
wrote: On Sep 29, 5:58*pm, H the K wrote: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=frMqj..._embedded#t=53 -- Birther-Deather-Tenther-Teabagger: Idiots All LOL! That vid cracks me up! flashlights? laser sights in smoke/fog? Those maroons wouldn't know what hit them. Nothing like having lights say "HEAR I AM! WHACK ME!" besides. unlike the paper targets, I really dont' know of anyone, who would stick their head out around a corner for a good 2-3 seconds while the "good guys" took stance-aim -fire. but it looks cool in a gun ad. dolts! Nice weapon, but behind the times. A lot of American police agencies are replacing their 9mm weapons with the Glock 45 and the mini-45 as a backup weapon. And for stopping power, nothing beats the .357 Mag revolver I have. The only problem is the six shots. :) Hey, that's why they make speed loaders. :) |
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On 9/29/09 10:44 PM, Tom Francis - SWSports wrote:
On Tue, 29 Sep 2009 18:13:58 -0700 (PDT), wrote: On Sep 29, 5:58 pm, H the wrote: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=frMqj..._embedded#t=53 -- Birther-Deather-Tenther-Teabagger: Idiots All LOL! That vid cracks me up! flashlights? laser sights in smoke/fog? Those maroons wouldn't know what hit them. Nothing like having lights say "HEAR I AM! WHACK ME!" besides. unlike the paper targets, I really dont' know of anyone, who would stick their head out around a corner for a good 2-3 seconds while the "good guys" took stance-aim -fire. but it looks cool in a gun ad. dolts! Nice weapon, but behind the times. A lot of American police agencies are replacing their 9mm weapons with the Glock 45 and the mini-45 as a backup weapon. And for stopping power, nothing beats the .357 Mag revolver I have. The only problem is the six shots. :) Hey, that's why they make speed loaders. :) Well, there may be some PDs going for GLOCK pistols in .45 ACP or ..45GAP, but I doubt there are many of them. GLOCKs are fine pistols, but they have the usual faults of pistols with polymer lowers (lots of muzzle flip, "rough" accuracy, etc.) I suspect a larger number of PDs are moving away from GLOCKs entirely because of the lack of thumb safeties, which, despite the PR from GLOCK, remains a serious issue. While there is no question a .45 has more "stopping power" than a 9mm, the real problem with PDs is that they don't insist their cops spend more time on the range. Cops, generally, are notoriously bad shots because of their lack of practice. One of the indoor ranges I visit in the late fall and early spring attracts a lot of cops and I'm just astounded at the inability of many of them to hit precisely even at really close "combat" ranges, like seven yards. Hell, the gang-bangers at the same range easily outshoot them. Considering their inability to shoot straight, I'm sure the preferred weapon of some cops would be a revolver in .500 S&W. It is the inability of cops to hit the important areas of body mass with their existing 9mm's that is driving whatever impetus there is for .45's. As for your .357 magnum, it's not much of a stopper, compared to either a .45 or a 10mm. The typical .357 mag FMJ 158 grain cartridge only gets a 32.7 Hatcher Rating. You'd have to go up to wadcutter bullets to raise that appreciably. Hell, a 9mm FMJ 147 grain cartridge has a Hatcher Rating of 32.3. -- Birther-Deather-Tenther-Teabagger: Idiots All |
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H the K wrote:
On 9/29/09 10:44 PM, Tom Francis - SWSports wrote: On Tue, 29 Sep 2009 18:13:58 -0700 (PDT), wrote: On Sep 29, 5:58 pm, H the wrote: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=frMqj..._embedded#t=53 -- Birther-Deather-Tenther-Teabagger: Idiots All LOL! That vid cracks me up! flashlights? laser sights in smoke/fog? Those maroons wouldn't know what hit them. Nothing like having lights say "HEAR I AM! WHACK ME!" besides. unlike the paper targets, I really dont' know of anyone, who would stick their head out around a corner for a good 2-3 seconds while the "good guys" took stance-aim -fire. but it looks cool in a gun ad. dolts! Nice weapon, but behind the times. A lot of American police agencies are replacing their 9mm weapons with the Glock 45 and the mini-45 as a backup weapon. And for stopping power, nothing beats the .357 Mag revolver I have. The only problem is the six shots. :) Hey, that's why they make speed loaders. :) Well, there may be some PDs going for GLOCK pistols in .45 ACP or .45GAP, but I doubt there are many of them. GLOCKs are fine pistols, but they have the usual faults of pistols with polymer lowers (lots of muzzle flip, "rough" accuracy, etc.) I suspect a larger number of PDs are moving away from GLOCKs entirely because of the lack of thumb safeties, which, despite the PR from GLOCK, remains a serious issue. While there is no question a .45 has more "stopping power" than a 9mm, the real problem with PDs is that they don't insist their cops spend more time on the range. Cops, generally, are notoriously bad shots because of their lack of practice. One of the indoor ranges I visit in the late fall and early spring attracts a lot of cops and I'm just astounded at the inability of many of them to hit precisely even at really close "combat" ranges, like seven yards. Hell, the gang-bangers at the same range easily outshoot them. Considering their inability to shoot straight, I'm sure the preferred weapon of some cops would be a revolver in .500 S&W. It is the inability of cops to hit the important areas of body mass with their existing 9mm's that is driving whatever impetus there is for .45's. As for your .357 magnum, it's not much of a stopper, compared to either a .45 or a 10mm. The typical .357 mag FMJ 158 grain cartridge only gets a 32.7 Hatcher Rating. You'd have to go up to wadcutter bullets to raise that appreciably. Hell, a 9mm FMJ 147 grain cartridge has a Hatcher Rating of 32.3. How many kills are you credited with, asshole? You have no way of knowing if what you read translates well into real life situations. You are simply a poser who reads a little on a topic and considers himself an expert. That applies to your writing, as well. Gee. I must have woken up a little grouchy this morning. |
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Considering their inability to shoot straight, I'm sure the preferred weapon of some cops would be a revolver in .500 S&W. It is the inability of cops to hit the important areas of body mass with their existing 9mm's that is driving whatever impetus there is for .45's. You must suffer from Short Dick Syndrome to suggest such a thing. The S&W ..500 is a two handed H-E-A-V-Y weapon that would be like dragging a bowling ball around. Viral videos of these make me cringe when I see what they've done to people holding them improperly. The gas that exits from in front of the cylinder alone is enough to take the tip of your finger off if you're dumb enough to put it there. But then, if you did, you would have the thing blow back and part your eyebrows, nose, and lips. Why don't you try it and get back to us. You have disdain for LEOs. I take it you're either a liberal, a criminal, or just someone who has no concept of what LEOs do. A small % of LEOs EVER fire their weapon in their CAREERS in "situations". As for your .357 magnum, it's not much of a stopper, compared to either a .45 or a 10mm. The typical .357 mag FMJ 158 grain cartridge only gets a 32.7 Hatcher Rating. You'd have to go up to wadcutter bullets to raise that appreciably. Hell, a 9mm FMJ 147 grain cartridge has a Hatcher Rating of 32.3. Old gangsters used to like .22 rimfires. What's your point? Pol Pot had thousands of people killed with pointed sticks. I can see you have very little practical experience with guns. Steve |
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On Tue, 29 Sep 2009 22:44:33 -0400, Tom Francis - SWSports
wrote: On Tue, 29 Sep 2009 18:13:58 -0700 (PDT), Tim wrote: On Sep 29, 5:58*pm, H the K wrote: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=frMqj..._embedded#t=53 -- Birther-Deather-Tenther-Teabagger: Idiots All LOL! That vid cracks me up! flashlights? laser sights in smoke/fog? Those maroons wouldn't know what hit them. Nothing like having lights say "HEAR I AM! WHACK ME!" besides. unlike the paper targets, I really dont' know of anyone, who would stick their head out around a corner for a good 2-3 seconds while the "good guys" took stance-aim -fire. but it looks cool in a gun ad. dolts! Nice weapon, but behind the times. A lot of American police agencies are replacing their 9mm weapons with the Glock 45 and the mini-45 as a backup weapon. And for stopping power, nothing beats the .357 Mag revolver I have. The only problem is the six shots. :) Hey, that's why they make speed loaders. :) I've been very happy with my S&W Mod 28. When you say six shots is a problem, I assume you mean you don't like the weight of the other five bullets. Right? -- John H All decisions, even those of liberals, are the result of binary thinking. |
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On Sep 29, 8:13*pm, Tim wrote:
On Sep 29, 5:58*pm, H the K wrote: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=frMqj..._embedded#t=53 -- Birther-Deather-Tenther-Teabagger: Idiots All LOL! That vid cracks me up! flashlights? laser sights in smoke/fog? Those maroons wouldn't know what hit them. Nothing like having lights say "HERE I AM! WHACK ME!" besides. unlike the paper targets, I really dont' know of anyone, who would stick their head out around a corner for a good 2-3 seconds while the "good guys" took stance-aim -fire. but it looks cool in a gun ad. dolts! furthermore. To those guys there's probably no greater rush than dropping a burlap target then waiting and watching it to see if it will flinch.... Kudos to the film director. He his Keystone Cop video made my day. |
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On Sep 29, 9:44*pm, Tom Francis - SWSports
wrote: On Tue, 29 Sep 2009 18:13:58 -0700 (PDT), Tim wrote: On Sep 29, 5:58*pm, H the K wrote: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=frMqj..._embedded#t=53 -- Birther-Deather-Tenther-Teabagger: Idiots All LOL! That vid cracks me up! flashlights? laser sights in smoke/fog? Those maroons wouldn't know what hit them. Nothing like having lights say "HEAR I AM! WHACK ME!" besides. unlike the paper targets, I really dont' know of anyone, who would stick their head out around a corner for a good 2-3 seconds while the "good guys" took stance-aim -fire. but it looks cool in a gun ad. dolts! Nice weapon, but behind the times. *A lot of American police agencies are replacing their 9mm weapons with the Glock 45 and the mini-45 as a backup weapon. And for stopping power, nothing beats the .357 Mag revolver I have. The only problem is the six shots. *:) *Hey, that's why they make speed loaders. *:)- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - My niece is a big city deputy coroner and she caries a sig. sauer in . 380 |
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On 9/30/09 12:52 PM, Tim wrote:
On Sep 29, 9:44 pm, Tom Francis - SWSports wrote: On Tue, 29 Sep 2009 18:13:58 -0700 (PDT), wrote: On Sep 29, 5:58 pm, H the wrote: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=frMqj..._embedded#t=53 -- Birther-Deather-Tenther-Teabagger: Idiots All LOL! That vid cracks me up! flashlights? laser sights in smoke/fog? Those maroons wouldn't know what hit them. Nothing like having lights say "HEAR I AM! WHACK ME!" besides. unlike the paper targets, I really dont' know of anyone, who would stick their head out around a corner for a good 2-3 seconds while the "good guys" took stance-aim -fire. but it looks cool in a gun ad. dolts! Nice weapon, but behind the times. A lot of American police agencies are replacing their 9mm weapons with the Glock 45 and the mini-45 as a backup weapon. And for stopping power, nothing beats the .357 Mag revolver I have. The only problem is the six shots. :) Hey, that's why they make speed loaders. :)- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - My niece is a big city deputy coroner and she caries a sig. sauer in . 380 Whatever works. If you are unfortunate enough to have to use a pistol against a human assailant, what matters is the skill of the shooter, not the size of the bullet. -- Birther-Deather-Tenther-Teabagger: Idiots All |
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On Sep 30, 10:54*am, Jim wrote:
H the K wrote: On 9/29/09 10:44 PM, Tom Francis - SWSports wrote: On Tue, 29 Sep 2009 18:13:58 -0700 (PDT), wrote: On Sep 29, 5:58 pm, H the *wrote: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=frMqj..._embedded#t=53 -- Birther-Deather-Tenther-Teabagger: Idiots All LOL! That vid cracks me up! flashlights? laser sights in smoke/fog? Those maroons wouldn't know what hit them. Nothing like having lights say "HEAR I AM! WHACK ME!" besides. unlike the paper targets, I really dont' know of anyone, who would stick their head out around a corner for a good 2-3 seconds while the "good guys" took stance-aim -fire. but it looks cool in a gun ad. dolts! Nice weapon, but behind the times. *A lot of American police agencies are replacing their 9mm weapons with the Glock 45 and the mini-45 as a backup weapon. And for stopping power, nothing beats the .357 Mag revolver I have. The only problem is the six shots. *:) *Hey, that's why they make speed loaders. *:) Well, there may be some PDs going for GLOCK pistols in .45 ACP or .45GAP, but I doubt there are many of them. GLOCKs are fine pistols, but they have the usual faults of pistols with polymer lowers (lots of muzzle flip, "rough" accuracy, etc.) I suspect a larger number of PDs are moving away from GLOCKs entirely because of the lack of thumb safeties, which, despite the PR from GLOCK, remains a serious issue. While there is no question a .45 has more "stopping power" than a 9mm, the real problem with PDs is that they don't insist their cops spend more time on the range. Cops, generally, are notoriously bad shots because of their lack of practice. One of the indoor ranges I visit in the late fall and early spring attracts a lot of cops and I'm just astounded at the inability of many of them to hit precisely even at really close "combat" ranges, like seven yards. Hell, the gang-bangers at the same range easily outshoot them. Considering their inability to shoot straight, I'm sure the preferred weapon of some cops would be a revolver in .500 S&W. It is the inability of cops to hit the important areas of body mass with their existing 9mm's that is driving whatever impetus there is for *.45's. As for your .357 magnum, it's not much of a stopper, compared to either a .45 or a 10mm. The typical .357 mag FMJ 158 grain cartridge only gets a 32.7 Hatcher Rating. You'd have to go up to wadcutter bullets to raise that appreciably. Hell, a 9mm FMJ 147 grain cartridge has a Hatcher Rating of 32.3. How many kills are you credited with, asshole? You have no way of knowing if what you read translates well into real life situations. You are simply a poser who reads a little on a topic and considers himself an expert. That applies to your writing, as well. Gee. I must have woken up a little grouchy this morning. No, you woke up sore from the ass-riding the little Ingersoll FAGGOT gave you. Look at the ****-spew form this turd. What's the matter, things not so good at the "double-secret" posting site? You have to come here and spew ****? This happens every time, you all SAY your leaving, then keep hanging around. The problem is, over at the "double-secret" posting place, the turds have no one to argue with. They all think the same bent way, so they all get along. Very boring, it must be.... HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA |
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On 9/30/09 2:23 PM, Scott Dickson wrote:
On Sep 30, 10:54 am, wrote: H the K wrote: On 9/29/09 10:44 PM, Tom Francis - SWSports wrote: On Tue, 29 Sep 2009 18:13:58 -0700 (PDT), wrote: On Sep 29, 5:58 pm, H the wrote: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=frMqj..._embedded#t=53 -- Birther-Deather-Tenther-Teabagger: Idiots All LOL! That vid cracks me up! flashlights? laser sights in smoke/fog? Those maroons wouldn't know what hit them. Nothing like having lights say "HEAR I AM! WHACK ME!" besides. unlike the paper targets, I really dont' know of anyone, who would stick their head out around a corner for a good 2-3 seconds while the "good guys" took stance-aim -fire. but it looks cool in a gun ad. dolts! Nice weapon, but behind the times. A lot of American police agencies are replacing their 9mm weapons with the Glock 45 and the mini-45 as a backup weapon. And for stopping power, nothing beats the .357 Mag revolver I have. The only problem is the six shots. :) Hey, that's why they make speed loaders. :) Well, there may be some PDs going for GLOCK pistols in .45 ACP or .45GAP, but I doubt there are many of them. GLOCKs are fine pistols, but they have the usual faults of pistols with polymer lowers (lots of muzzle flip, "rough" accuracy, etc.) I suspect a larger number of PDs are moving away from GLOCKs entirely because of the lack of thumb safeties, which, despite the PR from GLOCK, remains a serious issue. While there is no question a .45 has more "stopping power" than a 9mm, the real problem with PDs is that they don't insist their cops spend more time on the range. Cops, generally, are notoriously bad shots because of their lack of practice. One of the indoor ranges I visit in the late fall and early spring attracts a lot of cops and I'm just astounded at the inability of many of them to hit precisely even at really close "combat" ranges, like seven yards. Hell, the gang-bangers at the same range easily outshoot them. Considering their inability to shoot straight, I'm sure the preferred weapon of some cops would be a revolver in .500 S&W. It is the inability of cops to hit the important areas of body mass with their existing 9mm's that is driving whatever impetus there is for .45's. As for your .357 magnum, it's not much of a stopper, compared to either a .45 or a 10mm. The typical .357 mag FMJ 158 grain cartridge only gets a 32.7 Hatcher Rating. You'd have to go up to wadcutter bullets to raise that appreciably. Hell, a 9mm FMJ 147 grain cartridge has a Hatcher Rating of 32.3. How many kills are you credited with, asshole? You have no way of knowing if what you read translates well into real life situations. You are simply a poser who reads a little on a topic and considers himself an expert. That applies to your writing, as well. Gee. I must have woken up a little grouchy this morning. No, you woke up sore from the ass-riding the little Ingersoll FAGGOT gave you. Look at the ****-spew form this turd. What's the matter, things not so good at the "double-secret" posting site? You have to come here and spew ****? This happens every time, you all SAY your leaving, then keep hanging around. The problem is, over at the "double-secret" posting place, the turds have no one to argue with. They all think the same bent way, so they all get along. Very boring, it must be.... HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA floridajim is the current ranking coward of rec.boats, a worn-out old loser who hasn't had a real job his entire life, including the time he spent sucking off the taxpayer teat while in the navy. -- Birther-Deather-Tenther-Teabagger: Idiots All |
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On Sep 30, 12:02*pm, H the K wrote:
On 9/30/09 12:52 PM, Tim wrote: On Sep 29, 9:44 pm, Tom Francis - SWSports *wrote: On Tue, 29 Sep 2009 18:13:58 -0700 (PDT), wrote: On Sep 29, 5:58 pm, H the *wrote: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=frMqj..._embedded#t=53 -- Birther-Deather-Tenther-Teabagger: Idiots All LOL! That vid cracks me up! flashlights? laser sights in smoke/fog? Those maroons wouldn't know what hit them. Nothing like having lights say "HEAR I AM! WHACK ME!" besides. unlike the paper targets, I really dont' know of anyone, who would stick their head out around a corner for a good 2-3 seconds while the "good guys" took stance-aim -fire. but it looks cool in a gun ad. dolts! Nice weapon, but behind the times. *A lot of American police agencies are replacing their 9mm weapons with the Glock 45 and the mini-45 as a backup weapon. And for stopping power, nothing beats the .357 Mag revolver I have. The only problem is the six shots. *:) *Hey, that's why they make speed loaders. *:)- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - My niece is a big city deputy coroner and she caries a sig. sauer in . 380 Whatever works. If you are unfortunate enough to have to use a pistol against a human assailant, what matters is the skill of the shooter, not the size of the bullet. -- Birther-Deather-Tenther-Teabagger: Idiots All- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Actually Harry, I'd feel very fortunate to use a pisol against a human assailant. BTW, these goofs didnt' show any skill concerning going up against a human assailaint. |
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Tim wrote:
Actually Harry, I'd feel very fortunate to use a pisol against a human assailant. That would put you at a distinct advantage of a gun toting Assailant like Harry. Wouldn't it? In fact, if you only had a sharp stick to defend yourself, you'd still hold the advantage. |
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On 9/30/09 2:44 PM, Tim wrote:
On Sep 30, 12:02 pm, H the wrote: On 9/30/09 12:52 PM, Tim wrote: On Sep 29, 9:44 pm, Tom Francis - SWSports wrote: On Tue, 29 Sep 2009 18:13:58 -0700 (PDT), wrote: On Sep 29, 5:58 pm, H the wrote: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=frMqj..._embedded#t=53 -- Birther-Deather-Tenther-Teabagger: Idiots All LOL! That vid cracks me up! flashlights? laser sights in smoke/fog? Those maroons wouldn't know what hit them. Nothing like having lights say "HEAR I AM! WHACK ME!" besides. unlike the paper targets, I really dont' know of anyone, who would stick their head out around a corner for a good 2-3 seconds while the "good guys" took stance-aim -fire. but it looks cool in a gun ad. dolts! Nice weapon, but behind the times. A lot of American police agencies are replacing their 9mm weapons with the Glock 45 and the mini-45 as a backup weapon. And for stopping power, nothing beats the .357 Mag revolver I have. The only problem is the six shots. :) Hey, that's why they make speed loaders. :)- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - My niece is a big city deputy coroner and she caries a sig. sauer in . 380 Whatever works. If you are unfortunate enough to have to use a pistol against a human assailant, what matters is the skill of the shooter, not the size of the bullet. -- Birther-Deather-Tenther-Teabagger: Idiots All- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Actually Harry, I'd feel very fortunate to use a pisol against a human assailant. BTW, these goofs didnt' show any skill concerning going up against a human assailaint. Uh...I thought it was an overdone promo/commercial...you thought it was for real? -- Birther-Deather-Tenther-Teabagger: Idiots All |
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On Sep 30, 2:16*pm, H the K wrote:
On 9/30/09 2:44 PM, Tim wrote: On Sep 30, 12:02 pm, H the *wrote: On 9/30/09 12:52 PM, Tim wrote: On Sep 29, 9:44 pm, Tom Francis - SWSports * *wrote: On Tue, 29 Sep 2009 18:13:58 -0700 (PDT), wrote: On Sep 29, 5:58 pm, H the * *wrote: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=frMqj..._embedded#t=53 -- Birther-Deather-Tenther-Teabagger: Idiots All LOL! That vid cracks me up! flashlights? laser sights in smoke/fog? Those maroons wouldn't know what hit them. Nothing like having lights say "HEAR I AM! WHACK ME!" besides. unlike the paper targets, I really dont' know of anyone, who would stick their head out around a corner for a good 2-3 seconds while the "good guys" took stance-aim -fire. but it looks cool in a gun ad. dolts! Nice weapon, but behind the times. *A lot of American police agencies are replacing their 9mm weapons with the Glock 45 and the mini-45 as a backup weapon. And for stopping power, nothing beats the .357 Mag revolver I have. The only problem is the six shots. *:) *Hey, that's why they make speed loaders. *:)- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - My niece is a big city deputy coroner and she caries a sig. sauer in .. 380 Whatever works. If you are unfortunate enough to have to use a pistol against a human assailant, what matters is the skill of the shooter, not the size of the bullet. -- Birther-Deather-Tenther-Teabagger: Idiots All- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Actually Harry, I'd feel very fortunate to use a pisol against a human assailant. BTW, these goofs didnt' show any skill concerning going up against a human assailaint. Uh...I thought it was an overdone promo/commercial...you thought it was for real? -- Birther-Deather-Tenther-Teabagger: Idiots All- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - No I didn't think it was for real, but you evidently thought it was papers being served at Justwait's house. With the racket those guys made a kid with a L'il Slugger ball bat could have taken them out. ?;^ ) |
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On Sep 30, 10:27*am, "SteveB" wrote:
Old gangsters used to like .22 rimfires. * Yep. for "execution style" they did, and I imagine they still do. I believe the main reason is that forensics can't do a good match on a .22 bullet with the gun barrel because of the polished rifling. |
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On Sep 30, 5:39*am, H the K wrote:
Considering their inability to shoot straight, I'm sure the preferred weapon of some cops would be a revolver in .500 S&W. - Show quoted text - You mean with one of these? http://www.arcimboldeb.com/img/eventi/armi3/5.jpg |
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Actually Harry, I'd feel very fortunate to use a pisol against a human assailant. If a person does not possess the confidence to face an opponent empty handed, that person needs training. There are many ways to kill or disable an opponent bare handed. Those who must rely on a weapon just demonstrate their own inadequacy, although, it DOES make it a hell of a lot easier. And you don't have to get your hands dirty or your hair messed up. Steve |
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"SteveB" wrote in message
... Actually Harry, I'd feel very fortunate to use a pisol against a human assailant. If a person does not possess the confidence to face an opponent empty handed, that person needs training. There are many ways to kill or disable an opponent bare handed. Those who must rely on a weapon just demonstrate their own inadequacy, although, it DOES make it a hell of a lot easier. And you don't have to get your hands dirty or your hair messed up. Steve Ultimately, the pen *is* mightier than the sword. -- Nom=de=Plume |
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On 9/30/09 5:38 PM, Tim wrote:
On Sep 30, 2:16 pm, H the wrote: On 9/30/09 2:44 PM, Tim wrote: On Sep 30, 12:02 pm, H the wrote: On 9/30/09 12:52 PM, Tim wrote: On Sep 29, 9:44 pm, Tom Francis - SWSports wrote: On Tue, 29 Sep 2009 18:13:58 -0700 (PDT), wrote: On Sep 29, 5:58 pm, H the wrote: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=frMqj..._embedded#t=53 -- Birther-Deather-Tenther-Teabagger: Idiots All LOL! That vid cracks me up! flashlights? laser sights in smoke/fog? Those maroons wouldn't know what hit them. Nothing like having lights say "HEAR I AM! WHACK ME!" besides. unlike the paper targets, I really dont' know of anyone, who would stick their head out around a corner for a good 2-3 seconds while the "good guys" took stance-aim -fire. but it looks cool in a gun ad. dolts! Nice weapon, but behind the times. A lot of American police agencies are replacing their 9mm weapons with the Glock 45 and the mini-45 as a backup weapon. And for stopping power, nothing beats the .357 Mag revolver I have. The only problem is the six shots. :) Hey, that's why they make speed loaders. :)- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - My niece is a big city deputy coroner and she caries a sig. sauer in . 380 Whatever works. If you are unfortunate enough to have to use a pistol against a human assailant, what matters is the skill of the shooter, not the size of the bullet. -- Birther-Deather-Tenther-Teabagger: Idiots All- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Actually Harry, I'd feel very fortunate to use a pisol against a human assailant. BTW, these goofs didnt' show any skill concerning going up against a human assailaint. Uh...I thought it was an overdone promo/commercial...you thought it was for real? -- Birther-Deather-Tenther-Teabagger: Idiots All- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - No I didn't think it was for real, but you evidently thought it was papers being served at Justwait's house. With the racket those guys made a kid with a L'il Slugger ball bat could have taken them out. ?;^ ) Naw. I only imagined it was a raid at Justhate's house. If it were a real raid, it would have been a couple of brownie scouts armed with wiffle balls...you know, someone Justhate's size. -- Birther-Deather-Tenther-Teabagger: Idiots All |
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On 9/30/09 5:52 PM, Tim wrote:
On Sep 30, 5:39 am, H the wrote: Considering their inability to shoot straight, I'm sure the preferred weapon of some cops would be a revolver in .500 S&W. - Show quoted text - You mean with one of these? http://www.arcimboldeb.com/img/eventi/armi3/5.jpg That or a shotgun. -- Birther-Deather-Tenther-Teabagger: Idiots All |
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On 9/30/09 6:49 PM, nom=de=plume wrote:
wrote in message ... Actually Harry, I'd feel very fortunate to use a pisol against a human assailant. If a person does not possess the confidence to face an opponent empty handed, that person needs training. There are many ways to kill or disable an opponent bare handed. Those who must rely on a weapon just demonstrate their own inadequacy, although, it DOES make it a hell of a lot easier. And you don't have to get your hands dirty or your hair messed up. Steve Ultimately, the pen *is* mightier than the sword. If someone breaks into my house at night while we are at home, he is going to be facing a firearm pointed at him. -- Birther-Deather-Tenther-Teabagger: Idiots All |
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On Wed, 30 Sep 2009 16:26:00 -0600, "SteveB"
wrote: Actually Harry, I'd feel very fortunate to use a pisol against a human assailant. If a person does not possess the confidence to face an opponent empty handed, that person needs training. There are many ways to kill or disable an opponent bare handed. Those who must rely on a weapon just demonstrate their own inadequacy, although, it DOES make it a hell of a lot easier. And you don't have to get your hands dirty or your hair messed up. Steve Karate is great, unless the other guy has a .44 magnum pointed at your head. -- John H All decisions, even those of liberals, are the result of binary thinking. |
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nom=de=plume wrote:
"SteveB" wrote in message ... Actually Harry, I'd feel very fortunate to use a pisol against a human assailant. If a person does not possess the confidence to face an opponent empty handed, that person needs training. There are many ways to kill or disable an opponent bare handed. Those who must rely on a weapon just demonstrate their own inadequacy, although, it DOES make it a hell of a lot easier. And you don't have to get your hands dirty or your hair messed up. Steve Ultimately, the pen *is* mightier than the sword. You're killing me. |
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Tom Francis - SWSports wrote:
On Tue, 29 Sep 2009 18:13:58 -0700 (PDT), Tim wrote: On Sep 29, 5:58 pm, H the K wrote: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=frMqj..._embedded#t=53 -- Birther-Deather-Tenther-Teabagger: Idiots All LOL! That vid cracks me up! flashlights? laser sights in smoke/fog? Those maroons wouldn't know what hit them. Nothing like having lights say "HEAR I AM! WHACK ME!" besides. unlike the paper targets, I really dont' know of anyone, who would stick their head out around a corner for a good 2-3 seconds while the "good guys" took stance-aim -fire. but it looks cool in a gun ad. dolts! Nice weapon, but behind the times. A lot of American police agencies are replacing their 9mm weapons with the Glock 45 and the mini-45 as a backup weapon. And for stopping power, nothing beats the .357 Mag revolver I have. The only problem is the six shots. :) Hey, that's why they make speed loaders. :) I have an 8-shot Taurus in stainless. Very nice weapon! |
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H the K wrote:
On 9/29/09 10:44 PM, Tom Francis - SWSports wrote: On Tue, 29 Sep 2009 18:13:58 -0700 (PDT), wrote: On Sep 29, 5:58 pm, H the wrote: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=frMqj..._embedded#t=53 -- Birther-Deather-Tenther-Teabagger: Idiots All LOL! That vid cracks me up! flashlights? laser sights in smoke/fog? Those maroons wouldn't know what hit them. Nothing like having lights say "HEAR I AM! WHACK ME!" besides. unlike the paper targets, I really dont' know of anyone, who would stick their head out around a corner for a good 2-3 seconds while the "good guys" took stance-aim -fire. but it looks cool in a gun ad. dolts! Nice weapon, but behind the times. A lot of American police agencies are replacing their 9mm weapons with the Glock 45 and the mini-45 as a backup weapon. And for stopping power, nothing beats the .357 Mag revolver I have. The only problem is the six shots. :) Hey, that's why they make speed loaders. :) Well, there may be some PDs going for GLOCK pistols in .45 ACP or ..45GAP, but I doubt there are many of them. GLOCKs are fine pistols, but they have the usual faults of pistols with polymer lowers (lots of muzzle flip, "rough" accuracy, etc.) I suspect a larger number of PDs are moving away from GLOCKs entirely because of the lack of thumb safeties, which, despite the PR from GLOCK, remains a serious issue. While there is no question a .45 has more "stopping power" than a 9mm, the real problem with PDs is that they don't insist their cops spend more time on the range. Cops, generally, are notoriously bad shots because of their lack of practice. One of the indoor ranges I visit in the late fall and early spring attracts a lot of cops and I'm just astounded at the inability of many of them to hit precisely even at really close "combat" ranges, like seven yards. Hell, the gang-bangers at the same range easily outshoot them. Considering their inability to shoot straight, I'm sure the preferred weapon of some cops would be a revolver in .500 S&W. It is the inability of cops to hit the important areas of body mass with their existing 9mm's that is driving whatever impetus there is for .45's. As for your .357 magnum, it's not much of a stopper, compared to either a .45 or a 10mm. The typical .357 mag FMJ 158 grain cartridge only gets a 32.7 Hatcher Rating. You'd have to go up to wadcutter bullets to raise that appreciably. Hell, a 9mm FMJ 147 grain cartridge has a Hatcher Rating of 32.3. Good Googling! Boring as hell, but good effort WAFA! |
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H the K wrote:
On 9/30/09 6:49 PM, nom=de=plume wrote: wrote in message ... Actually Harry, I'd feel very fortunate to use a pisol against a human assailant. If a person does not possess the confidence to face an opponent empty handed, that person needs training. There are many ways to kill or disable an opponent bare handed. Those who must rely on a weapon just demonstrate their own inadequacy, although, it DOES make it a hell of a lot easier. And you don't have to get your hands dirty or your hair messed up. Steve Ultimately, the pen *is* mightier than the sword. If someone breaks into my house at night while we are at home, he is going to be facing a firearm pointed at him. You don't *own* a house (or a lobster boat), WAFA. |
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On Wed, 30 Sep 2009 20:51:07 -0400, The D wrote:
Tom Francis - SWSports wrote: On Tue, 29 Sep 2009 18:13:58 -0700 (PDT), Tim wrote: On Sep 29, 5:58 pm, H the K wrote: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=frMqj..._embedded#t=53 -- Birther-Deather-Tenther-Teabagger: Idiots All LOL! That vid cracks me up! flashlights? laser sights in smoke/fog? Those maroons wouldn't know what hit them. Nothing like having lights say "HEAR I AM! WHACK ME!" besides. unlike the paper targets, I really dont' know of anyone, who would stick their head out around a corner for a good 2-3 seconds while the "good guys" took stance-aim -fire. but it looks cool in a gun ad. dolts! Nice weapon, but behind the times. A lot of American police agencies are replacing their 9mm weapons with the Glock 45 and the mini-45 as a backup weapon. And for stopping power, nothing beats the .357 Mag revolver I have. The only problem is the six shots. :) Hey, that's why they make speed loaders. :) I have an 8-shot Taurus in stainless. Very nice weapon! I have a S&W 38 frame hammerless retrofitted to .357. I really need a small frame revolver because I (1) have stubby fingers and (2) can't handle large frame revolvers any more. The nice thing about it is that it's not a normal "stubbie" - the barrel is two inches longer which improves accuracy up to about 45 yards or so. The last time I took the .44 Mag out to the range, I literally had to give up after a couple of shots - my hands just can't take it anymore. I can handle the Colt 1911 I have fine, but that's really kind of a "special" weapon I only shoot once in a while - souvenir from the military days - carried that one from the time I was a Corporal. :) I've shot the Taurus - nice weapon. I knew they had a seven shot revolver - didn't know they had an eight shot. Someday, I might get brave enough to try out my son's Desert Eagle. Maybe. :) |
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On Wed, 30 Sep 2009 19:25:34 -0400, JohnH
wrote: On Wed, 30 Sep 2009 16:26:00 -0600, "SteveB" wrote: Actually Harry, I'd feel very fortunate to use a pisol against a human assailant. If a person does not possess the confidence to face an opponent empty handed, that person needs training. There are many ways to kill or disable an opponent bare handed. Those who must rely on a weapon just demonstrate their own inadequacy, although, it DOES make it a hell of a lot easier. And you don't have to get your hands dirty or your hair messed up. Steve Karate is great, unless the other guy has a .44 magnum pointed at your head. Black pepper. I had a self defense guru tell me one time that for close in mugging, nothing beats a palm full of black pepper in the face. When you think about it, makes perfect sense. I also like the small personal Tasers. Those look like a fairly decent issue to use - non-lethal and you can deal out some punishment without getting too close. :) |
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On Wed, 30 Sep 2009 15:49:33 -0700, "nom=de=plume"
wrote: "SteveB" wrote in message ... Actually Harry, I'd feel very fortunate to use a pisol against a human assailant. If a person does not possess the confidence to face an opponent empty handed, that person needs training. There are many ways to kill or disable an opponent bare handed. Those who must rely on a weapon just demonstrate their own inadequacy, although, it DOES make it a hell of a lot easier. And you don't have to get your hands dirty or your hair messed up. Steve Ultimately, the pen *is* mightier than the sword. When I was in my late teens I had a friend, an African-american from Gary, IN, who worked in a steel mill in Gary. He would come down to our farm about once a month to go fishing with us in local waters. On a particular trip to Belleville, IL, (in his gold Ford Pinto) he told me about walking home one day from school, a few years earlier, and being confronted by a couple of gang members, about his age, that lived in the area. He realized that these other 'black dudes' were not going to let him go untouched. He had a fountain pen (those were still widely available back then) in his hand, with his books. He claimed to have taken the pen and swung it across his torso in the direction of the two. He said the ink got in their eyes, and he was able to dart home quickly before they could recover enough to try to take off after him. So, in this case the pen was mightier. (I don't think he fabricated the story. He was a devout Christian, and he didn't seem to be given to hyperbole.) -- Posted via NewsDemon.com - Premium Uncensored Newsgroup Service -------http://www.NewsDemon.com------ Unlimited Access, Anonymous Accounts, Uncensored Broadband Access |
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On 9/30/09 9:37 PM, Tom Francis - SWSports wrote:
I have a S&W 38 frame hammerless retrofitted to .357. I really need a small frame revolver because I (1) have stubby fingers and (2) can't handle large frame revolvers any more. The nice thing about it is that it's not a normal "stubbie" - the barrel is two inches longer which improves accuracy up to about 45 yards or so. Gosh, just what are you shooting at offhand at 45 yards with improved accuracy with that retrofitted, 4" barrel revolver? Something really big? -- Birther-Deather-Tenther-Teabagger: Idiots All |
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On Sep 30, 6:07*pm, H the K wrote:
On 9/30/09 5:52 PM, Tim wrote: On Sep 30, 5:39 am, H the *wrote: Considering their inability to shoot straight, I'm sure the preferred weapon of some cops would be a revolver in .500 S&W. - Show quoted text - You mean with one of these? http://www.arcimboldeb.com/img/eventi/armi3/5.jpg That or a shotgun. -- Birther-Deather-Tenther-Teabagger: Idiots All But I don't know of any cops that would want to carry, let alone handle that kind of a cannon. |
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On Sep 30, 6:25*pm, JohnH wrote:
On Wed, 30 Sep 2009 16:26:00 -0600, "SteveB" wrote: Actually Harry, I'd feel very fortunate to use a pisol against a human assailant. If a person does not possess the confidence to face an opponent empty handed, that person needs training. *There are many ways to kill or disable an opponent bare handed. *Those who must rely on a weapon just demonstrate their own inadequacy, although, it DOES make it a hell of a lot easier. *And you don't have to get your hands dirty or your hair messed up. Steve Karate is great, unless the other guy has a .44 magnum pointed at your head. -- John H All decisions, even those of liberals, are the result of binary thinking. or a .22 |
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On Sep 30, 8:40*pm, Tom Francis - SWSports
wrote: On Wed, 30 Sep 2009 19:25:34 -0400, JohnH wrote: On Wed, 30 Sep 2009 16:26:00 -0600, "SteveB" wrote: Actually Harry, I'd feel very fortunate to use a pisol against a human assailant. If a person does not possess the confidence to face an opponent empty handed, that person needs training. *There are many ways to kill or disable an opponent bare handed. *Those who must rely on a weapon just demonstrate their own inadequacy, although, it DOES make it a hell of a lot easier. *And you don't have to get your hands dirty or your hair messed up. Steve Karate is great, unless the other guy has a .44 magnum pointed at your head. Black pepper. *I had a self defense guru tell me one time that for close in mugging, nothing beats a palm full of black pepper in the face. When you think about it, makes perfect sense. I also like the small personal Tasers. *Those look like a fairly decent issue to use - non-lethal and you can deal out some punishment without getting too close. *:) Tom, that's fine if you have the pepper. And Tom, if the .44 gave you that much grief, If I were you, I'd seriously consider leaving the Desert Eagle alone. seriously. |
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"Tom Francis - SWSports" wrote I have a S&W 38 frame hammerless retrofitted to .357. I really need a small frame revolver because I (1) have stubby fingers and (2) can't handle large frame revolvers any more. I have the .357 model 60 J frame 5 shot. I have a Safariland paddle that I carry it on that is very comfortable and concealable. When I went to shoot it at The Gun Store in Vegas, I got all signed in, and the guy said, "Where's your gun?" I pulled it out, and he was surprised. It actually rides behind my midline. I like my KelTec 3AT for just a really concealable gun, and I don't care to hear any jokes or comments on the .380 Kurz, thank you very much. But when I want to feel safe, I take the Smith. At times, I like my Ruger P93DC just for firepower. It rides pretty comfortably on my appendix in a Galco. But still, the 3AT is a front pocket, back pocket, inside the belt really concealable gun. Nevada no longer has reciprocity with Utah, as Utah has no live fire qualifications when getting a CCF permit for Utah. So, I have to watch carrying in Nevada now. MHO YMMV Steve |
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