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On Tue, 22 Sep 2009 19:22:38 -0700, "mgg" wrote:
You have bypassed all of that by installing an electric pump that's wired to be on when the key is on. I'm not saying that you're gonna blow up tomorrow, but I sure as hell wouldn't leave the key in the "on" position for long before starting. I'm confident that you can find a schematic online to wire it properly, and from reading your post, I'm sure you could do it. Both Mike and Gene make good points regarding safety. I've seen a few gasoline fires on boats and they are not a good thing. One of my old sailboats had a gasoline engine with an electric fuel pump, and also the gasoline generator on my old Bertram. Both had the fuel pump wired in series with the oil pressure sender so that the pump was guaranteed to be off if the engine was not running. |
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On Sep 22, 9:46*pm, Wayne.B wrote:
On Tue, 22 Sep 2009 19:22:38 -0700, "mgg" wrote: You have bypassed all of that by installing an electric pump that's wired to be on when the key is on. I'm not saying that you're gonna blow up tomorrow, but I sure as hell wouldn't leave the key in the "on" position for long before starting. I'm confident that you can find a schematic online to wire it properly, and from reading your post, I'm sure you could do it. Both Mike and Gene make good points regarding safety. * I've seen a few gasoline fires on boats and they are not a good thing. * One of my old sailboats had a gasoline engine with an electric fuel pump, and also the gasoline generator on my old Bertram. * Both had the fuel pump wired in series with the oil pressure sender so that the pump was guaranteed to be off if the engine was not running. Gentlemen, all points are taking well into consideration. I have a murphy switch and can install it accordingly. I will be installing it a well as an ignition relay that will kill the power to the pump in case of engine shut down. it's not hard to do. . I made this preliminary post so that I could see how it would operate, and it did function as desired. I'm also going to change out the key switch with "Bat", "Ign" and "start" , and do away with the button switch. believe it or not, I am more of a forward thinker than what some may think. ?;^) |
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On Tue, 22 Sep 2009 19:59:27 -0700 (PDT), Tim
wrote: On Sep 22, 9:46*pm, Wayne.B wrote: On Tue, 22 Sep 2009 19:22:38 -0700, "mgg" wrote: You have bypassed all of that by installing an electric pump that's wired to be on when the key is on. I'm not saying that you're gonna blow up tomorrow, but I sure as hell wouldn't leave the key in the "on" position for long before starting. I'm confident that you can find a schematic online to wire it properly, and from reading your post, I'm sure you could do it. Both Mike and Gene make good points regarding safety. * I've seen a few gasoline fires on boats and they are not a good thing. * One of my old sailboats had a gasoline engine with an electric fuel pump, and also the gasoline generator on my old Bertram. * Both had the fuel pump wired in series with the oil pressure sender so that the pump was guaranteed to be off if the engine was not running. Gentlemen, all points are taking well into consideration. I have a murphy switch and can install it accordingly. I will be installing it a well as an ignition relay that will kill the power to the pump in case of engine shut down. it's not hard to do. . I made this preliminary post so that I could see how it would operate, and it did function as desired. I'm also going to change out the key switch with "Bat", "Ign" and "start" , and do away with the button switch. believe it or not, I am more of a forward thinker than what some may think. ?;^) Well, I'm impressed with the whole project. Yes, there are some safety issues to be overcome, but you'll do that. Me, I would have put the boat in the marina and said, 'Charlie, fix it.' -- John H |
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On Sep 23, 5:07*am, JohnH wrote:
On Tue, 22 Sep 2009 19:59:27 -0700 (PDT), Tim wrote: On Sep 22, 9:46*pm, Wayne.B wrote: On Tue, 22 Sep 2009 19:22:38 -0700, "mgg" wrote: You have bypassed all of that by installing an electric pump that's wired to be on when the key is on. I'm not saying that you're gonna blow up tomorrow, but I sure as hell wouldn't leave the key in the "on" position for long before starting. I'm confident that you can find a schematic online to wire it properly, and from reading your post, I'm sure you could do it. Both Mike and Gene make good points regarding safety. * I've seen a few gasoline fires on boats and they are not a good thing. * One of my old sailboats had a gasoline engine with an electric fuel pump, and also the gasoline generator on my old Bertram. * Both had the fuel pump wired in series with the oil pressure sender so that the pump was guaranteed to be off if the engine was not running. Gentlemen, all points are taking well into consideration. I have a murphy switch and can install it accordingly. I will be installing it a well as an ignition relay that will kill the power to the pump in case of engine shut down. it's not hard to do. . I made this preliminary post so that I could see how it would operate, and it did function as desired. I'm also going to change out *the key switch with "Bat", "Ign" and "start" , and do away with the button switch. believe it or not, I am more of a forward thinker than what some may think. ?;^) Well, I'm impressed with the whole project. Yes, there are some safety issues to be overcome, but you'll do that. -- John H Yes, in the primitive sense there are some safety issues, but they're really not hard to over come. In fact, the way it is set up now, would probably be fine with no incident happening, but the safety measures are worth the little bit of effort. Me, I would have put the boat in the marina and said, 'Charlie, fix it.' LOL! I know. That's why every day I go to work, and you go to the golf course. |
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Tim wrote:
On Sep 23, 5:07 am, JohnH wrote: On Tue, 22 Sep 2009 19:59:27 -0700 (PDT), Tim wrote: On Sep 22, 9:46 pm, Wayne.B wrote: On Tue, 22 Sep 2009 19:22:38 -0700, "mgg" wrote: You have bypassed all of that by installing an electric pump that's wired to be on when the key is on. I'm not saying that you're gonna blow up tomorrow, but I sure as hell wouldn't leave the key in the "on" position for long before starting. I'm confident that you can find a schematic online to wire it properly, and from reading your post, I'm sure you could do it. Both Mike and Gene make good points regarding safety. I've seen a few gasoline fires on boats and they are not a good thing. One of my old sailboats had a gasoline engine with an electric fuel pump, and also the gasoline generator on my old Bertram. Both had the fuel pump wired in series with the oil pressure sender so that the pump was guaranteed to be off if the engine was not running. Gentlemen, all points are taking well into consideration. I have a murphy switch and can install it accordingly. I will be installing it a well as an ignition relay that will kill the power to the pump in case of engine shut down. it's not hard to do. . I made this preliminary post so that I could see how it would operate, and it did function as desired. I'm also going to change out the key switch with "Bat", "Ign" and "start" , and do away with the button switch. believe it or not, I am more of a forward thinker than what some may think. ?;^) Well, I'm impressed with the whole project. Yes, there are some safety issues to be overcome, but you'll do that. -- John H Yes, in the primitive sense there are some safety issues, but they're really not hard to over come. In fact, the way it is set up now, would probably be fine with no incident happening, but the safety measures are worth the little bit of effort. Me, I would have put the boat in the marina and said, 'Charlie, fix it.' LOL! I know. That's why every day I go to work, and you go to the golf course. I'm with John. I would never tackle a job like that. If I had that sort of problem I, too, would "redistribute the wealth"! |
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On Wed, 23 Sep 2009 20:08:45 -0400, Gene
wrote: On Wed, 23 Sep 2009 19:50:20 -0400, D wrote: I would never tackle a job like that. If I had that sort of problem I, too, would "redistribute the wealth"! I've rarely paid others to do this sort of job and received the quality that I expect. I, and others, prefer to do this sort of job so that I know that it is done right. To you, getting the job done right is obviously more important than redistributing wealth. Now we know where your priorities lie. Sure wish some other folks felt the same way. -- John H |
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JohnH wrote:
On Tue, 22 Sep 2009 19:59:27 -0700 (PDT), Tim wrote: On Sep 22, 9:46 pm, Wayne.B wrote: On Tue, 22 Sep 2009 19:22:38 -0700, "mgg" wrote: You have bypassed all of that by installing an electric pump that's wired to be on when the key is on. I'm not saying that you're gonna blow up tomorrow, but I sure as hell wouldn't leave the key in the "on" position for long before starting. I'm confident that you can find a schematic online to wire it properly, and from reading your post, I'm sure you could do it. Both Mike and Gene make good points regarding safety. I've seen a few gasoline fires on boats and they are not a good thing. One of my old sailboats had a gasoline engine with an electric fuel pump, and also the gasoline generator on my old Bertram. Both had the fuel pump wired in series with the oil pressure sender so that the pump was guaranteed to be off if the engine was not running. Gentlemen, all points are taking well into consideration. I have a murphy switch and can install it accordingly. I will be installing it a well as an ignition relay that will kill the power to the pump in case of engine shut down. it's not hard to do. . I made this preliminary post so that I could see how it would operate, and it did function as desired. I'm also going to change out the key switch with "Bat", "Ign" and "start" , and do away with the button switch. believe it or not, I am more of a forward thinker than what some may think. ?;^) Well, I'm impressed with the whole project. Yes, there are some safety issues to be overcome, but you'll do that. That's what Harry would have done. Me, I would have put the boat in the marina and said, 'Charlie, fix it.' -- John H |
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In article 7512aef2-3dcc-4863-96b1-319f6d131928
@g6g2000vbr.googlegroups.com, says... Gentlemen,... Geeze Tim, never known you to get "****ed" before... ![]() -- Dad loves his family, and he was a soldier. He wanted us all to remember that... |
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On Sep 23, 10:57*am, JustWait wrote:
In article 7512aef2-3dcc-4863-96b1-319f6d131928 @g6g2000vbr.googlegroups.com, says... Gentlemen,... Geeze Tim, never known you to get "****ed" before... ![]() -- Dad loves his family, and he was a soldier. He wanted us all to remember that... LOL! Not me. If I was going to be that way I wouldn't have said "Gentlemen" I would have typed something like Listen here you %^&#* , go %#! yourselves . It's my boat and I'll @#$ *($^% do as I please !!!!! But, i can't do that . But I feel better now that I got that off my chest... ?;^ Q |
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On Wed, 23 Sep 2009 11:37:28 -0700 (PDT), Tim
wrote: On Sep 23, 10:57*am, JustWait wrote: In article 7512aef2-3dcc-4863-96b1-319f6d131928 @g6g2000vbr.googlegroups.com, says... Gentlemen,... Geeze Tim, never known you to get "****ed" before... ![]() -- Dad loves his family, and he was a soldier. He wanted us all to remember that... LOL! Not me. If I was going to be that way I wouldn't have said "Gentlemen" I would have typed something like Listen here you %^&#* , go %#! yourselves . It's my boat and I'll @#$ *($^% do as I please !!!!! But, i can't do that . But I feel better now that I got that off my chest... ?;^ Q And, not one misspelling. Good job! -- John H |
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