wf3h wrote:
On Sep 28, 11:32 am, "RD (The Sandman)" rdsandman(spamlock)
@comcast.net wrote:
wf3h wrote :


no, they're no. since manufacturing has disappeared in the US and
virtually none of it was unionized, it's obvious unions had zip to do
with it. you admit IBM is unionized...and still in the US, while the
non unionized plants are gone
That was a company choice....and not a good one.

oh. i see how this works. you claim unions destroy business. proof of
that is

1. non unionized plants are closed
2. unionized plants are still in production but you think they
shouldn't be because that disproves your view

gee. an ironclad argument

and that, to you, proves non unionized plants protect jobs? if that's
the case, where are the jobs?
If you were half as familiar with IBM as you insinuate, you would know
what a loss that was.

and if you knew logic, you'd see how ridiculous your position is

Argue this:

Times Union: A sweet IBM deal
http://cnse.albany.edu/News/index.cf...il&NewsID=1406

A sweet IBM deal that netted the company $1.6 billion of the taxpayer
dollars, and then:

BM layoffs reaching 3000, union group claims
http://www.edn.com/article/CA6632229.html

And then there are many, many, many of these that you can argue:

Toyota to Close Union Plant in California
http://www.nytimes.com/2009/08/28/business/28nummi.html

Union leaders fear Packard plant closing
http://www.vindy.com/news/2008/jul/2...plant-closing/

Peterbilt permanently closing Tennessee plant
"Peterbilt Motors Co. announced the permanent closure of its Madison
truck assembly plant, effective December 1.
The Madison plant had not built trucks since July 2008, when the company
and the United Auto Workers Local 1832 were unable to agree on a new
contract."
http://nashville.bizjournals.com/nas...28/daily7.html

Penske closing Albany plant, 81 jobs eliminated
http://albany.bizjournals.com/albany...1/daily49.html

Alcoa plant closing will cost 293 jobs in Beloit
http://albany.bizjournals.com/milwau...lant%20closing

Pratt And Whitney To Close Cheshire Plant
http://www.cheshireherald.com/node/1417

County says it fought to keep plant
http://www.yourdailyjournal.com/page...ws_left_column

So argue away, wf3h. Show us all how unions keep plants alive.


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