On Sep 28, 7:56*pm, John Kuthe wrote:
The sick puppy puked TWICE!!

Answer my question Tim!

John Kuthe...


Rec.boats.paddle posters visit Nuremberg (See Rec.Boats.Paddle Posters
Visit Nuremberg) but desperately cling to any specious excuses (one
heart attack, not related to being unable to get out of the water and
one death accomplished by paddling on a river with fallen trees, rocks
etc. to create a drowning, also unrelated to no means to get out of
deadly water); compared to over 1,500 murders documented by the U.S.
Coast Guard, adding over 100 new deaths every year, simply due to
leaving victims to die in the water, like the Darlington school boys.
Two (2) for over 1,500 and over 100 new deaths every year. It is tough
to live in America with no Democracy and a jobless economy, while 2
wars are fought in Iraq and Afghanistan to "bring Democracy" to the
bombed and bleeding citizens there. At least the citizens of America
are not bombed for Democracy yet; although in my recent post "Canoeing
in America" after Katrina, the story is chilling. Most Americans are
much more realistic than the angry and cruel cult represented on
rec.boats.paddle; happily justifying over 1,500 murders, just as poor
whites fought for slavery in the American Civil War, just so they
could feel better about themselves; having, at least, more freedom
than slaves. Principal dynamics in America do not change:

How were 1,500 American men, women and children murdered (every year
over 100 new victims die in canoes and kayaks according to the U.S.
Coast Guard), by the American Canoe Association (and other Americans
on rec.boats.paddle) who enjoy killing Americans, even American
children in American schools, on American soil. It is very simple:
Canoes and kayaks are the most unstable form of boat in the history
of
the world, accomplished by narrow beam without any form of
stabilizing
beam buoyancy in emergencies. So school children, for example the
dead
boys at Darlington School in Rome, Georgia (near Atlanta) easily
capsized on a school trip.

Even experts easily capsize canoes and kayaks, even in mild
conditions
of wind and waves; all it takes is a second of inattention to the
balance of the narrow craft. Any judge or jury can easily demonstrate
this simple fact in a swimming pool. The dead Darlington School boys
were murdered by denying them any means to get out of the water.
These
boys died in terror, thinking of their loving families because no
other canoes could rescue them; although Boy Scouts of America and
the
American Canoe Association proclaims that the canoe-over-canoe rescue
could have saved them! Of course this is a lie. More canoes
attempting
to rescue the boys would have capsized as well, without any emergency
beam stability called sponsons.


All of this is very obvious. Two 10 year old girls without expensive,
fraudulent instruction can rescue themselves in 5 seconds with 50
cent
sponsons: http://www.sponsonguy.com


The interesting thing for America is that some Americans evidently
enjoy murdering American men, women and children at a rate of over
100
agonizing deaths every year. Rec.boats.paddle, as I have said in a
recent post, provides the forum to investigate these crimes against
American citizens; just as the Nuremberg trials provided Stanley
Milgram with the opportunity to study Nazis up close, and remark how
"normal" these human monsters could appear. The Milgram Studies at
Yale, replicated throughout the world, are the most famous psychology
experiments ever done, studying the nature of human evil. The gist is
very simple: like the rec.boats.paddle posters here, the human
tendency is to approve of what the perpetrators see as "normal", i.e.
leave innocent American children to die in the water because canoe
over canoe rescues, or a dozen other, even more ridiculous canoe and
kayak rescues, cannot get them out of the water. In fact, these
fraudulent rescues are effective in capsizing more canoes and kayaks,
for the highest possible death toll. And the victims are blamed for
their own deaths for not buying more fraudulent instruction! All of
this is simple truth available to any judge and jury in the world.
Interestingly American citizens suffer more than any other country
from this scam. Americans deserve protection and democracy in
America.
Most Americans do not deserve to die.


Most Americans understand the simple truth, make unstable canoes and
kayaks more stable in emergencies: " In this book I would like to
emphasize rescue techniques other than
the Eskimo roll because a backup technique is mandatory...given that
relatively few sea kayakers will ever roll successfully and because
workable alternative techniques are too often neglected...The great
advantage of the Sea Wing (sponsons) is that it leaves the paddler in
a more stable position than before the capsize." (John Dowd, Sea
Kayaking, 3rd edition, 1997, ...

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On Sep 20, 7:45*pm, John Kuthe wrote:
On Sep 20, 2:52*pm, Davej wrote:

On Sep 20, 6:55*am, TimIngram wrote:

Sponsons are the only means to stabilize flooded or unflooded canoes
and kayaks so victims can get out of deadly water in 5 seconds, stay
out, and paddle to safety. [...]

I've heard your spew and I'm not installing them on my boats, not now
or ever, and if I die in the water it isn't murder.

Heart disease is the number one killer of Americans. Is Ronald
McDonald a criminal and murderer?

IMHO YES!!!

That and the fact that McCraps is the prototype purveyor of BAD FOOD
in the world!!

John Kuthe...

JJ, there's a new television commercial where the guy sez "...I'm a
meatetarian. It's a lifestyle choice; you have to make a
commitment..." and then they go on to show this gawdawful two-meat-
patty, cheese and ***bacon*** covered burger, and I think "gee-Zeus,
they put heroin dealers in jail and let fast-food operators and
cigarette manufacturers run free?"

Golly, this is twice in one year you and I have agreed upon something!

On Sep 21, 7:26*am, TimIngram wrote:
On Sep 20, 3:52*pm, Davej wrote:

Tim

Your'e a bigger nut than Mike Vandeman.

On Oct 1, 10:33*pm, pmh wrote:
On Sep 21, 7:26*am, TimIngram wrote:

On Sep 20, 3:52*pm, Davej wrote:

Tim

Your'e a bigger nut than Mike Vandeman.

You apparently enjoy knowing over 1,500 men, women and children in the
US are dead and over 100 are murdered in the US every year in canoes
and kayaks, in agonizing deaths (terminal waterboarding), documented
by the US Coast Guard. Are you a sleeper Al Queda or just a GOP
campaign manager, attempting to recruit Sarah Palin? You enjoy
murdering Americans?

Rec.boats.paddle posters visit Nuremberg (See Rec.Boats.Paddle
Posters
Visit Nuremberg) but desperately cling to any specious excuses (one
heart attack, not related to being unable to get out of the water and
one death accomplished by paddling on a river with fallen trees,
rocks
etc. to create a drowning, also unrelated to no means to get out of
deadly water); compared to over 1,500 murders documented by the U.S.
Coast Guard, adding over 100 new deaths every year, simply due to
leaving victims to die in the water, like the Darlington school boys.
Two (2) for over 1,500 and over 100 new deaths every year. It is
tough
to live in America with no Democracy and a jobless economy, while 2
wars are fought in Iraq and Afghanistan to "bring Democracy" to the
bombed and bleeding citizens there. At least the citizens of America
are not bombed for Democracy yet; although in my recent post
"Canoeing
in America" after Katrina, the story is chilling. Most Americans are
much more realistic than the angry and cruel cult represented on
rec.boats.paddle; happily justifying over 1,500 murders, just as poor
whites fought for slavery in the American Civil War, just so they
could feel better about themselves; having, at least, more freedom
than slaves. Principal dynamics in America do not change:

How were 1,500 American men, women and children murdered (every year
over 100 new victims die in canoes and kayaks according to the U.S.
Coast Guard), by the American Canoe Association (and other Americans
on rec.boats.paddle) who enjoy killing Americans, even American
children in American schools, on American soil. It is very simple:
Canoes and kayaks are the most unstable form of boat in the history
of
the world, accomplished by narrow beam without any form of
stabilizing
beam buoyancy in emergencies. So school children, for example the
dead
boys at Darlington School in Rome, Georgia (near Atlanta) easily
capsized on a school trip.


Even experts easily capsize canoes and kayaks, even in mild
conditions
of wind and waves; all it takes is a second of inattention to the
balance of the narrow craft. Any judge or jury can easily demonstrate
this simple fact in a swimming pool. The dead Darlington School boys
were murdered by denying them any means to get out of the water.
These
boys died in terror, thinking of their loving families because no
other canoes could rescue them; although Boy Scouts of America and
the
American Canoe Association proclaims that the canoe-over-canoe rescue
could have saved them! Of course this is a lie. More canoes
attempting
to rescue the boys would have capsized as well, without any emergency
beam stability called sponsons.


All of this is very obvious. Two 10 year old girls without expensive,
fraudulent instruction can rescue themselves in 5 seconds with 50
cent
sponsons: http://www.sponsonguy.com


The interesting thing for America is that some Americans evidently
enjoy murdering American men, women and children at a rate of over
100
agonizing deaths every year. Rec.boats.paddle, as I have said in a
recent post, provides the forum to investigate these crimes against
American citizens; just as the Nuremberg trials provided Stanley
Milgram with the opportunity to study Nazis up close, and remark how
"normal" these human monsters could appear. The Milgram Studies at
Yale, replicated throughout the world, are the most famous psychology
experiments ever done, studying the nature of human evil. The gist is
very simple: like the rec.boats.paddle posters here, the human
tendency is to approve of what the perpetrators see as "normal", i.e.
leave innocent American children to die in the water because canoe
over canoe rescues, or a dozen other, even more ridiculous canoe and
kayak rescues, cannot get them out of the water. In fact, these
fraudulent rescues are effective in capsizing more canoes and kayaks,
for the highest possible death toll. And the victims are blamed for
their own deaths for not buying more fraudulent instruction! All of
this is simple truth available to any judge and jury in the world.
Interestingly American citizens suffer more than any other country
from this scam. Americans deserve protection and democracy in
America.
Most Americans do not deserve to die.


Most Americans understand the simple truth, make unstable canoes and
kayaks more stable in emergencies: " In this book I would like to
emphasize rescue techniques other than
the Eskimo roll because a backup technique is mandatory...given that
relatively few sea kayakers will ever roll successfully and because
workable alternative techniques are too often neglected...The great
advantage of the Sea Wing (sponsons) is that it leaves the paddler in
a more stable position than before the capsize." (John Dowd, Sea
Kayaking, 3rd edition, 1997, ...


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On Sep 20, 8:55*am, TimIngram wrote:


Best to start in America, first,
where a huge death toll has been achieved by the criminal actions of
the American Canoe Association, that forces deadly (but profitable)
fraudulent instruction on innocent American men, women and children,
who are then blamed for their own agonizing deaths. The Health
Insurance Scheme, like the canoe and kayak scam, has also killed
thousands of innocent Americans for profit. It was better once in
America:


those dirty rotten *******s at the American Canoe Association...

On Oct 10, 8:28*am, wf3h wrote:
On Sep 20, 8:55*am, TimIngram wrote:

Best to start in America, first,

where a huge death toll has been achieved by the criminal actions of
the American Canoe Association, that forces deadly (but profitable)
fraudulent instruction on innocent American men, women and children,
who are then blamed for their own agonizing deaths. The Health
Insurance Scheme, like the canoe and kayak scam, has also killed
thousands of innocent Americans for profit. It was better once in
America:

those dirty rotten *******s at the American Canoe Association...

It would be better simply to have the American Canoe Association
paddle only in Guantanamo Bay, where they have some commonality.

The "jaybird" posted: "The fact that he cut
and pasted a reply identically three times is the kind of gerbil
treadmill response I would expect from a non-cult member.

Everybodys going to die sometime. That's a fact...


Grace and peace.


jaybird


Apparently this "killer Christian" approves the murders of over 200
American children and over 1,500 adults (US Coast Guard) because
"Everybodys (sic) going to die sometime." Osama bin Laden could not
improve on the sheer numbers of cruel and agonizing American deaths,
nor Al Queda, nor Taliban. "Jaybird" is proud of his kills here,
including the 2 Darlington school boys. It's a deadly cult.


The rec.boats.paddle cult members responded within the last 4 days as
expected: to the facts that they deliberately leave American children
in the water to die (over 200 American children, like the Darlington
school boys who died in terror, knowing they had no means to get out
of the water, to see mom and dad, and their loving families again.)
They died in agony and terror, but rec.boats.paddle posters don't
care, like the accused Nazis at Nuremberg, who attracted the interest
of Dr. Stanley Milgram who began the famous social psychology
experiments at Yale. The boys could have saved themselves in 5
seconds with 50 cent sponsons, like the two 10 year old girls on
http://www.sponsonguy.com


But the cult apparently wanted these deaths, and even calls the facts
surrounding these deaths "spam". America has severe problems, but the
most dangerous enemies to America are the ones who feel entitled to
murder Americans, even American children, by denying them any means
to save their lives, instead promoting expensive, fraudulent and
profitable American Canoe Association instruction that is their
"true" spam:


Rec.boats paddle posters attempt to blame deaths on foolishly
paddling down rivers with rocks and trees to trap victims underwater
until
they drown. And heart attacks while out of the water. The Darlington
school boys were not trapped and drowned under
any river. They died just like over 200 American children; they died
because they were deprived of any means to get out of the water, and
stay out, and paddle to sho 50 cent, 5 second sponsons.


Some rec.boats.paddle posters first attempt to say canoe over canoe
rescues would have saved these kids. Then they cease when it is
pointed out that ACA Hall of Fame instructors (Cliff Jacobson et al.)
state the canoe over canoe can't work in real life, and "rescuing"
canoes will only be capsized as well, without 5 second emergency
sponson stability. In desperation the truly stupid or crazy posters
will sometimes state: "These deaths are necessary for the public to
know canoes and kayaks are dangerous."


In fact these canoes and kayaks are deliberately designed for
fraudulent "rescues" that are as dangerous as possible; despite
public knowledge that canoes and kayaks with sponsons have crossed
both
Atlantic and Pacific oceans (Lindemann 1956, 1957, Gillett 1992) This
deliberate intention to torture and kill innocent American children
and adults, shown here on rec.boats.paddle, imitates the results of
the original Milgram experiments at Yale, where 65% complied with
inflicting very painful, even fatal levels of electric shock to the
screaming actor, hired for the Yale University experiment, the most
famous experiment in social psychology, and replicated throughout the
world in dozens of university labs.


Tim Ingram

Sunday morning sick puppy puke!

John Kuthe...

On Oct 13, 11:56*am, Chicago Paddling-Fishing wrote:
TimIngram wrote:

snip

Rec.Boats.Paddle posters and the American Canoe Association make
money
and enhance their egos through as many deaths as possible, from the

Once again (and this is assuming you can read), please prove the above
statement. *Show us our checks!

Oh, I've instructed for money! Mostly the roll too, which should ****
off ole Timmy "Sponson Boy" to no end!! Because with a roll, kayakers
don't NEED no STEENKIN sponsons!! AHAHAHA!!!!

John Kuthe...

On Oct 13, 5:31*pm, John Kuthe wrote:
On Oct 13, 11:56*am, Chicago Paddling-Fishing wrote:

TimIngram wrote:

snip

Rec.Boats.Paddle posters and the American Canoe Association make
money
and enhance their egos through as many deaths as possible, from the

Once again (and this is assuming you can read), please prove the above
statement. *Show us our checks!

Oh, I've instructed for money! Mostly the roll too, which should ****
off ole Timmy "Sponson Boy" to no end!! Because with a roll, kayakers
don't NEED no STEENKIN sponsons!! AHAHAHA!!!!

John Kuthe...

-

I just find it absolutely astonishing that Tim, a member of RBP, can
believe that RBP has anything to do with the accidental deaths of
those teenagers. Since Tim is a member of the group he accuses, he is
continually accusing himself. Therefore, Tim is guilty of his own
accusations. That is why everyone complains about his cut and paste
puke because he is in a "did not - did to" infantile arguement.

I don't care if they used sponsons on the Mayflower, I wouldn't go out
paddling when small craft warnings were posted. The Darlington boys
died because they had no business being out there during those
conditions. Tim does not grasp the concept of personal
responsibility.


So I know he is going to puke his garbage over and over and over but I
feel I have the right to point out the facts when the lunatic is out
of the asylum. It's not like there is anything else to do on RBP and
Tim would puke his garbage on anything anyone says anyway. The
alternative is just pack up and leave like the last guy.


Rich



Dear Rich:

You are an American apparently molded in the fashion of Sarah Palin,
McCain, Limbaugh, or any of the GOP laughingstocks. You probably want
to deny health care to American children because you believe it is
"God's will that they should suffer". Most Americans are not as
stupid
as you. Most Americans believe they all deserve health care and they
all deserve the safest canoes and kayaks, cars, bicycles etc. Most
Americans believe canoes and kayaks without any form of self-rescue
should not be used. Any canoe or kayak, Rich, whether 100 feet from
shore, or in the Gulf of Mexico is deadly: Deadly due to NO canoe and
kayak rescue capability.


You, Rich, and the crazy killers posting today apparently want canoes
and kayaks to be without rescue capability in a farm pond or on open
waters where canoes and kayaks are normally paddled, and fast-rising
winds and waves normally occur without warning. If you were honest
you
would simply state no schools should use canoes and kayaks without
fool-proof 5 second rescue capability on http://www.sponsonguy.com
Or perhaps you think these children deserve to die?


Read again care fully, (perhaps you did not understand fully.):


Thanks Rich:


Of course the 2 dead Darlington school boys could have gotten out of
the water in 5 seconds with 50 cent foam sponsons, and stayed out,
even rescued other victims from the water, like the canoe and kayaks
crossing both Atlantic and Pacific Oceans, like the 10 year old girls
on http://www.sponsonguy.com


But rec.boats.paddle posters and the American Canoe Association have
murdered over 1,500 Americans in Canoes and Kayaks (US Coast Guard
BARD), including over 200 American children. America needs democracy,
health care, law, order and justice. Send the criminals to paddle
around Guantanamo Bay. They are the real terrorists on American soil;
who make canoes and kayaks as dangerous as possible, with no means to
get out of the water, swimming pool or Gulf of Mexico or farm pond!


Tim