"H the K" wrote in message
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nom=de=plume wrote:
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On Fri, 18 Sep 2009 11:14:32 -0700, "nom=de=plume"
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I wonder how the students in New York, DC or LA do in this test.
I have been hearing this story for 50 years. "US Americans" always
seem to suck on the citizenship test.

I've seen several street interviews who question passersby about things
like
geography. Some of their answers to simple questions are hilarious!
And,
these were mostly adults.

FYI, it's "WE Americans" unless you were talking about U. S. American's
vs.
Americans north or south of the border. Sorry, I'll put my grammer hat
back
in the corner.

No I meant U.S. Americans, sorry about the lapse in punctuation Miss
Plume ;-)
I did think Miss SC was correct when she used that appelation.



Heh... I've been told to not do this sort of thing..


Ever been to Oklahoma?

I have, but not for many years.


I'm not good in the mid-west. I have terrible alergies to pollen.

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"jps" wrote in message
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On Fri, 18 Sep 2009 06:52:30 -0700 (PDT), Frogwatch
wrote:

On Sep 18, 9:49 am, jps wrote:
Can we include Oklahoma in Texas' succession? Reddest state in the
union from what I recall. Wonder why?

OKLAHOMA CITY -- Only one in four Oklahoma public high school students
can name the first President of the United States, according to a
survey released today.

The survey was commissioned by the Oklahoma Council of Public Affairs
in observance of Constitution Day on Thursday.

Brandon Dutcher is with the conservative think tank and said the group
wanted to find out how much civic knowledge Oklahoma high school
students know.

The Oklahoma City-based think tank enlisted national research firm,
Strategic Vision, to access students' basic civic knowledge.

"They're questions taken from the actual exam that you have to take to
become a U.S. citizen," Dutcher said.

A thousand students were given 10 questions drawn from the U.S.
Citizenship and Immigration Services item bank. Candidates for U.S.
citizenship must answer six questions correctly in order to become
citizens.

About 92 percent of the people who take the citizenship test pass on
their first try, according to immigration service data. However,
Oklahoma students did not fare as well. Only about 3 percent of the
students surveyed would have passed the citizenship test.

Dutcher said this is not just a problem in Oklahoma. He said Arizona
had similar results, which left him concerned for the entire country.

"Jefferson later said that a nation can't expect to be ignorant and
free," Dutcher said. "It points to a real serious problem. We're not
going to remain ignorant and free."

jps the racist is so immersed in hatred that he cannot see reason.

What's racist in pointing out that Oklahoma is giving their students a
**** poor education? Did you actually read the article or did your
knee jerk up to the keyboard and start typing?

You live (as in stew) in southern Alabama and you think you're in a
position to judge racism? You and your neighbors are burdened with
prejudice that goes back generations.

Odd thing, is Washington D.C. With the highest per student spending has the
lowest graduation rate in the country. And I saw more racism when I lived
in Ohio than I saw in Mississippi. And you are complaining about Okalahoma.

On Fri, 18 Sep 2009 16:46:58 -0700, "CalifBill"
wrote:


"jps" wrote in message
.. .
On Fri, 18 Sep 2009 06:52:30 -0700 (PDT), Frogwatch
wrote:

On Sep 18, 9:49 am, jps wrote:
Can we include Oklahoma in Texas' succession? Reddest state in the
union from what I recall. Wonder why?

OKLAHOMA CITY -- Only one in four Oklahoma public high school students
can name the first President of the United States, according to a
survey released today.

The survey was commissioned by the Oklahoma Council of Public Affairs
in observance of Constitution Day on Thursday.

Brandon Dutcher is with the conservative think tank and said the group
wanted to find out how much civic knowledge Oklahoma high school
students know.

The Oklahoma City-based think tank enlisted national research firm,
Strategic Vision, to access students' basic civic knowledge.

"They're questions taken from the actual exam that you have to take to
become a U.S. citizen," Dutcher said.

A thousand students were given 10 questions drawn from the U.S.
Citizenship and Immigration Services item bank. Candidates for U.S.
citizenship must answer six questions correctly in order to become
citizens.

About 92 percent of the people who take the citizenship test pass on
their first try, according to immigration service data. However,
Oklahoma students did not fare as well. Only about 3 percent of the
students surveyed would have passed the citizenship test.

Dutcher said this is not just a problem in Oklahoma. He said Arizona
had similar results, which left him concerned for the entire country.

"Jefferson later said that a nation can't expect to be ignorant and
free," Dutcher said. "It points to a real serious problem. We're not
going to remain ignorant and free."

jps the racist is so immersed in hatred that he cannot see reason.

What's racist in pointing out that Oklahoma is giving their students a
**** poor education? Did you actually read the article or did your
knee jerk up to the keyboard and start typing?

You live (as in stew) in southern Alabama and you think you're in a
position to judge racism? You and your neighbors are burdened with
prejudice that goes back generations.

Odd thing, is Washington D.C. With the highest per student spending has the
lowest graduation rate in the country. And I saw more racism when I lived
in Ohio than I saw in Mississippi. And you are complaining about Okalahoma.


In Mississippi they're much better at keeping racism under the
horizon, it's part of southern culture.

You don't have to be overtly racist to change the odds.

"jps" wrote in message
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On Fri, 18 Sep 2009 16:46:58 -0700, "CalifBill"
wrote:


"jps" wrote in message
. ..
On Fri, 18 Sep 2009 06:52:30 -0700 (PDT), Frogwatch
wrote:

On Sep 18, 9:49 am, jps wrote:
Can we include Oklahoma in Texas' succession? Reddest state in the
union from what I recall. Wonder why?

OKLAHOMA CITY -- Only one in four Oklahoma public high school students
can name the first President of the United States, according to a
survey released today.

The survey was commissioned by the Oklahoma Council of Public Affairs
in observance of Constitution Day on Thursday.

Brandon Dutcher is with the conservative think tank and said the group
wanted to find out how much civic knowledge Oklahoma high school
students know.

The Oklahoma City-based think tank enlisted national research firm,
Strategic Vision, to access students' basic civic knowledge.

"They're questions taken from the actual exam that you have to take to
become a U.S. citizen," Dutcher said.

A thousand students were given 10 questions drawn from the U.S.
Citizenship and Immigration Services item bank. Candidates for U.S.
citizenship must answer six questions correctly in order to become
citizens.

About 92 percent of the people who take the citizenship test pass on
their first try, according to immigration service data. However,
Oklahoma students did not fare as well. Only about 3 percent of the
students surveyed would have passed the citizenship test.

Dutcher said this is not just a problem in Oklahoma. He said Arizona
had similar results, which left him concerned for the entire country.

"Jefferson later said that a nation can't expect to be ignorant and
free," Dutcher said. "It points to a real serious problem. We're not
going to remain ignorant and free."

jps the racist is so immersed in hatred that he cannot see reason.

What's racist in pointing out that Oklahoma is giving their students a
**** poor education? Did you actually read the article or did your
knee jerk up to the keyboard and start typing?

You live (as in stew) in southern Alabama and you think you're in a
position to judge racism? You and your neighbors are burdened with
prejudice that goes back generations.

Odd thing, is Washington D.C. With the highest per student spending has
the
lowest graduation rate in the country. And I saw more racism when I lived
in Ohio than I saw in Mississippi. And you are complaining about
Okalahoma.


In Mississippi they're much better at keeping racism under the
horizon, it's part of southern culture.

You don't have to be overtly racist to change the odds.

Overtly the south is more upfront when you see racism. But more racism in
the north from my viewings.

On Fri, 18 Sep 2009 20:06:50 -0700, "CalifBill"
wrote:


"jps" wrote in message
.. .
On Fri, 18 Sep 2009 16:46:58 -0700, "CalifBill"
wrote:


"jps" wrote in message
...
On Fri, 18 Sep 2009 06:52:30 -0700 (PDT), Frogwatch
wrote:

On Sep 18, 9:49 am, jps wrote:
Can we include Oklahoma in Texas' succession? Reddest state in the
union from what I recall. Wonder why?

OKLAHOMA CITY -- Only one in four Oklahoma public high school students
can name the first President of the United States, according to a
survey released today.

The survey was commissioned by the Oklahoma Council of Public Affairs
in observance of Constitution Day on Thursday.

Brandon Dutcher is with the conservative think tank and said the group
wanted to find out how much civic knowledge Oklahoma high school
students know.

The Oklahoma City-based think tank enlisted national research firm,
Strategic Vision, to access students' basic civic knowledge.

"They're questions taken from the actual exam that you have to take to
become a U.S. citizen," Dutcher said.

A thousand students were given 10 questions drawn from the U.S.
Citizenship and Immigration Services item bank. Candidates for U.S.
citizenship must answer six questions correctly in order to become
citizens.

About 92 percent of the people who take the citizenship test pass on
their first try, according to immigration service data. However,
Oklahoma students did not fare as well. Only about 3 percent of the
students surveyed would have passed the citizenship test.

Dutcher said this is not just a problem in Oklahoma. He said Arizona
had similar results, which left him concerned for the entire country.

"Jefferson later said that a nation can't expect to be ignorant and
free," Dutcher said. "It points to a real serious problem. We're not
going to remain ignorant and free."

jps the racist is so immersed in hatred that he cannot see reason.

What's racist in pointing out that Oklahoma is giving their students a
**** poor education? Did you actually read the article or did your
knee jerk up to the keyboard and start typing?

You live (as in stew) in southern Alabama and you think you're in a
position to judge racism? You and your neighbors are burdened with
prejudice that goes back generations.

Odd thing, is Washington D.C. With the highest per student spending has
the
lowest graduation rate in the country. And I saw more racism when I lived
in Ohio than I saw in Mississippi. And you are complaining about
Okalahoma.


In Mississippi they're much better at keeping racism under the
horizon, it's part of southern culture.

You don't have to be overtly racist to change the odds.

Overtly the south is more upfront when you see racism. But more racism in
the north from my viewings.

Yeah, Jim Crow was real popular up north. Part of the culture, not.

On Sat, 19 Sep 2009 01:18:57 -0400, wrote:

On Fri, 18 Sep 2009 20:45:54 -0700, jps wrote:

Overtly the south is more upfront when you see racism. But more racism in
the north from my viewings.

Yeah, Jim Crow was real popular up north. Part of the culture, not.

There are more KKK people in Indiana and Ohio than in Mississippi.
They don't segregate lunch counters, they segregate whole communities.
You have white areas and black areas. The most racist people I know
are northern big city cops.

It must have leaked through Kentucky.

On Sep 18, 11:06*pm, "CalifBill" wrote:
"jps" wrote in message

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On Fri, 18 Sep 2009 16:46:58 -0700, "CalifBill"
wrote:

"jps" wrote in message
. ..
On Fri, 18 Sep 2009 06:52:30 -0700 (PDT), Frogwatch
wrote:

On Sep 18, 9:49 am, jps wrote:
Can we include Oklahoma in Texas' succession? Reddest state in the
union from what I recall. Wonder why?

OKLAHOMA CITY -- Only one in four Oklahoma public high school students
can name the first President of the United States, according to a
survey released today.

The survey was commissioned by the Oklahoma Council of Public Affairs
in observance of Constitution Day on Thursday.

Brandon Dutcher is with the conservative think tank and said the group
wanted to find out how much civic knowledge Oklahoma high school
students know.

The Oklahoma City-based think tank enlisted national research firm,
Strategic Vision, to access students' basic civic knowledge.

"They're questions taken from the actual exam that you have to take to
become a U.S. citizen," Dutcher said.

A thousand students were given 10 questions drawn from the U.S.
Citizenship and Immigration Services item bank. Candidates for U.S.
citizenship must answer six questions correctly in order to become
citizens.

About 92 percent of the people who take the citizenship test pass on
their first try, according to immigration service data. However,
Oklahoma students did not fare as well. Only about 3 percent of the
students surveyed would have passed the citizenship test.

Dutcher said this is not just a problem in Oklahoma. He said Arizona
had similar results, which left him concerned for the entire country.

"Jefferson later said that a nation can't expect to be ignorant and
free," Dutcher said. "It points to a real serious problem. We're not
going to remain ignorant and free."

jps the racist is so immersed in hatred that he cannot see reason.

What's racist in pointing out that Oklahoma is giving their students a
**** poor education? *Did you actually read the article or did your
knee jerk up to the keyboard and start typing?

You live (as in stew) in southern Alabama and you think you're in a
position to judge racism? *You and your neighbors are burdened with
prejudice that goes back generations.

Odd thing, is Washington D.C. *With the highest per student spending has
the
lowest graduation rate in the country. *And I saw more racism when I lived
in Ohio than I saw in Mississippi. *And you are complaining about
Okalahoma.

In Mississippi they're much better at keeping racism under the
horizon, it's part of southern culture.

You don't have to be overtly racist to change the odds.

Overtly the south is more upfront when you see racism. *But more racism in
the north from my viewings.

The most intolerant, hard core racists I've ever seen were in the
northeast. Well, and in the northwest.

Jack wrote:
On Sep 18, 11:06 pm, "CalifBill" wrote:
"jps" wrote in message

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On Fri, 18 Sep 2009 16:46:58 -0700, "CalifBill"
wrote:
"jps" wrote in message
...
On Fri, 18 Sep 2009 06:52:30 -0700 (PDT), Frogwatch
wrote:
On Sep 18, 9:49 am, jps wrote:
Can we include Oklahoma in Texas' succession? Reddest state in the
union from what I recall. Wonder why?
OKLAHOMA CITY -- Only one in four Oklahoma public high school students
can name the first President of the United States, according to a
survey released today.
The survey was commissioned by the Oklahoma Council of Public Affairs
in observance of Constitution Day on Thursday.
Brandon Dutcher is with the conservative think tank and said the group
wanted to find out how much civic knowledge Oklahoma high school
students know.
The Oklahoma City-based think tank enlisted national research firm,
Strategic Vision, to access students' basic civic knowledge.
"They're questions taken from the actual exam that you have to take to
become a U.S. citizen," Dutcher said.
A thousand students were given 10 questions drawn from the U.S.
Citizenship and Immigration Services item bank. Candidates for U.S.
citizenship must answer six questions correctly in order to become
citizens.
About 92 percent of the people who take the citizenship test pass on
their first try, according to immigration service data. However,
Oklahoma students did not fare as well. Only about 3 percent of the
students surveyed would have passed the citizenship test.
Dutcher said this is not just a problem in Oklahoma. He said Arizona
had similar results, which left him concerned for the entire country.
"Jefferson later said that a nation can't expect to be ignorant and
free," Dutcher said. "It points to a real serious problem. We're not
going to remain ignorant and free."
jps the racist is so immersed in hatred that he cannot see reason.
What's racist in pointing out that Oklahoma is giving their students a
**** poor education? Did you actually read the article or did your
knee jerk up to the keyboard and start typing?
You live (as in stew) in southern Alabama and you think you're in a
position to judge racism? You and your neighbors are burdened with
prejudice that goes back generations.
Odd thing, is Washington D.C. With the highest per student spending has
the
lowest graduation rate in the country. And I saw more racism when I lived
in Ohio than I saw in Mississippi. And you are complaining about
Okalahoma.
In Mississippi they're much better at keeping racism under the
horizon, it's part of southern culture.
You don't have to be overtly racist to change the odds.
Overtly the south is more upfront when you see racism. But more racism in
the north from my viewings.

The most intolerant, hard core racists I've ever seen were in the
northeast. Well, and in the northwest.

Don't go out much in your own redneck racist state, eh?


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Idiots All

On Sat, 19 Sep 2009 14:05:15 -0400, wrote:

On Fri, 18 Sep 2009 23:53:49 -0700, jps wrote:

On Sat, 19 Sep 2009 01:18:57 -0400, wrote:

On Fri, 18 Sep 2009 20:45:54 -0700, jps wrote:

Overtly the south is more upfront when you see racism. But more racism in
the north from my viewings.

Yeah, Jim Crow was real popular up north. Part of the culture, not.

There are more KKK people in Indiana and Ohio than in Mississippi.
They don't segregate lunch counters, they segregate whole communities.
You have white areas and black areas. The most racist people I know
are northern big city cops.

It must have leaked through Kentucky.

I think I would peg the racism in northern police departments to the
60s riots although there were still plenty of racist cops before that.
Those riots changed white flight into white panic in the suburbs and
started the middle class gated community movement

Cicero, Illinois, the home of Al Capone, was closed to
african-americans until the early 1980's, if I remember correctly.

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