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I just saw Obama's HS speech
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I just saw Obama's HS speech
JustWait wrote:
In article , says... JustWait wrote: In article , says... JohnH wrote: On Mon, 14 Sep 2009 08:46:45 -0500, thunder wrote: On Mon, 14 Sep 2009 09:35:41 -0400, JustWait wrote: Not bull**** at all.. It was finally friday they agreed to put in legislation forcing folks to prove citizenship... Up until then it was deliberately left out of the law... That's nice. I guess we should all permanently carry our passports around with us, and clean underwear. You never know when you might be involved in an accident. So, how does that work? If you can't prove citizenship, to they kick you out unto the curb? Why not carry passports? Europeans do it, and it hasn't killed any of them. Hell, it might even reduce voter fraud. Oh, wait a minute, liberals are in *favor* of voter fraud. I forgot. -- John H Please show me where any liberal EVER said that they were "in favor of voter fraud" or apologize for the lie. I bet Harry has uttered those words before, especially if it creates one party rule like we have now. And if you think there are not millions of other idiots like him around, you are not paying attention. And what does that have to do with me? Are you responsible for every word uttered by any conservative? You said "show me where *any* liberal... " And Harry is certainly a liberal, no? I'll bet good money Harry never said he was "in favor of voter fraud". Ergo, John owes an apology. |
I just saw Obama's HS speech
JustWait wrote:
In article , says... Thought you were for SMALLER government? Putting words in my mouth again? Oh, so your NOT for smaller government?? |
I just saw Obama's HS speech
JohnH wrote:
On Tue, 15 Sep 2009 08:59:57 -0400, NotNow wrote: JustWait wrote: In article , says... On Mon, 14 Sep 2009 20:55:18 -0700, "nom=de=plume" wrote: "JohnH" wrote in message ... On Mon, 14 Sep 2009 15:50:39 -0700, "nom=de=plume" wrote: "Jim" wrote in message ... How do you propose low income people pay for the passport? They're not cheap these days. Yeah, we're in favor of voter fraud like what happened in 2000 in Florida? right. Fraud? Nope. Just a few mis counted votes, hanging chad and the fact that Al gore kept demanding recounts until he was declared winner. Total fraud. Yet after Bush was elected by the Supreme Court, loyal Americans accepted the result. We didn't question that Bush was the president. After 9/11, Bush had something like 90% approval rating in the polls. The vast majority of the world were sympathetic and supportive. Instead of taking advantage of our remarkable position, Bush squandered it in a war of choice. Tens of thousands died, and we're much worse off, politically, financially, and morally. Now, answer the question. Already did, sweetie. No, you didn't: How do you propose low income people pay for the passport? They're not cheap these days. If we are to end up paying for health care for the poor, and not including illegal immigrants, then I've no problem with providing the poor a free passport. That could then be an ID requirement for the free healthcare. -- John H Illegal immigrants are exempt from signing up for the various healthcare programs winding their way through Congress. So, you don't mind a national id card? That's quite a statement. Saying, "That's quite a statement" is quite a statement. I said I agree with everyone being required to have a passport. It hasn't killed one European that I know of. The problem with a national ID card is it takes away the Democrats best election tool, voter fraud... They will never let it happen. No, the problem(s) with a national ID card is that our basic freedoms will be lost and gone forever. Cost. They are estimating the program will cost upwards of $23 billion, plus they'll have to run the program year to year. Thought you were for SMALLER government? I've had a passport for over thirty years. I know of no 'basic freedoms' I've lost forever. Do you have any idea WTF you're talking about? Yes, I'm talking about a National ID card. Issuing a passport to the poor would cost $23 billion a year? That's pure horse**** and you know it. -- John H Again, a NATIONAL ID CARD.....did you READ it? |
I just saw Obama's HS speech
On Tue, 15 Sep 2009 11:39:09 -0400, NotNow wrote:
JustWait wrote: In article , says... JustWait wrote: In article , says... JohnH wrote: On Mon, 14 Sep 2009 08:46:45 -0500, thunder wrote: On Mon, 14 Sep 2009 09:35:41 -0400, JustWait wrote: Not bull**** at all.. It was finally friday they agreed to put in legislation forcing folks to prove citizenship... Up until then it was deliberately left out of the law... That's nice. I guess we should all permanently carry our passports around with us, and clean underwear. You never know when you might be involved in an accident. So, how does that work? If you can't prove citizenship, to they kick you out unto the curb? Why not carry passports? Europeans do it, and it hasn't killed any of them. Hell, it might even reduce voter fraud. Oh, wait a minute, liberals are in *favor* of voter fraud. I forgot. -- John H Please show me where any liberal EVER said that they were "in favor of voter fraud" or apologize for the lie. I bet Harry has uttered those words before, especially if it creates one party rule like we have now. And if you think there are not millions of other idiots like him around, you are not paying attention. And what does that have to do with me? Are you responsible for every word uttered by any conservative? You said "show me where *any* liberal... " And Harry is certainly a liberal, no? I'll bet good money Harry never said he was "in favor of voter fraud". Ergo, John owes an apology. Go read all of plum's posts. You'll find it. Ergo, no apology. -- John H |
I just saw Obama's HS speech
On Tue, 15 Sep 2009 11:42:16 -0400, NotNow wrote:
JohnH wrote: On Tue, 15 Sep 2009 08:59:57 -0400, NotNow wrote: JustWait wrote: In article , says... On Mon, 14 Sep 2009 20:55:18 -0700, "nom=de=plume" wrote: "JohnH" wrote in message ... On Mon, 14 Sep 2009 15:50:39 -0700, "nom=de=plume" wrote: "Jim" wrote in message ... How do you propose low income people pay for the passport? They're not cheap these days. Yeah, we're in favor of voter fraud like what happened in 2000 in Florida? right. Fraud? Nope. Just a few mis counted votes, hanging chad and the fact that Al gore kept demanding recounts until he was declared winner. Total fraud. Yet after Bush was elected by the Supreme Court, loyal Americans accepted the result. We didn't question that Bush was the president. After 9/11, Bush had something like 90% approval rating in the polls. The vast majority of the world were sympathetic and supportive. Instead of taking advantage of our remarkable position, Bush squandered it in a war of choice. Tens of thousands died, and we're much worse off, politically, financially, and morally. Now, answer the question. Already did, sweetie. No, you didn't: How do you propose low income people pay for the passport? They're not cheap these days. If we are to end up paying for health care for the poor, and not including illegal immigrants, then I've no problem with providing the poor a free passport. That could then be an ID requirement for the free healthcare. -- John H Illegal immigrants are exempt from signing up for the various healthcare programs winding their way through Congress. So, you don't mind a national id card? That's quite a statement. Saying, "That's quite a statement" is quite a statement. I said I agree with everyone being required to have a passport. It hasn't killed one European that I know of. The problem with a national ID card is it takes away the Democrats best election tool, voter fraud... They will never let it happen. No, the problem(s) with a national ID card is that our basic freedoms will be lost and gone forever. Cost. They are estimating the program will cost upwards of $23 billion, plus they'll have to run the program year to year. Thought you were for SMALLER government? I've had a passport for over thirty years. I know of no 'basic freedoms' I've lost forever. Do you have any idea WTF you're talking about? Yes, I'm talking about a National ID card. Issuing a passport to the poor would cost $23 billion a year? That's pure horse**** and you know it. -- John H Again, a NATIONAL ID CARD.....did you READ it? Think PASSPORT loogy, and then get back to me. I already have a national ID card. Sure didn't cost any $23 billion. Tell me what freedoms I've lost? Tell me what freedoms a passport causes one to lose. What freedoms would a 'national ID card' cause one to lose that a passport wouldn't? -- John H |
I just saw Obama's HS speech
"JohnH" wrote in message ... On Tue, 15 Sep 2009 11:39:09 -0400, NotNow wrote: JustWait wrote: In article , says... JustWait wrote: In article , says... JohnH wrote: On Mon, 14 Sep 2009 08:46:45 -0500, thunder wrote: On Mon, 14 Sep 2009 09:35:41 -0400, JustWait wrote: Not bull**** at all.. It was finally friday they agreed to put in legislation forcing folks to prove citizenship... Up until then it was deliberately left out of the law... That's nice. I guess we should all permanently carry our passports around with us, and clean underwear. You never know when you might be involved in an accident. So, how does that work? If you can't prove citizenship, to they kick you out unto the curb? Why not carry passports? Europeans do it, and it hasn't killed any of them. Hell, it might even reduce voter fraud. Oh, wait a minute, liberals are in *favor* of voter fraud. I forgot. -- John H Please show me where any liberal EVER said that they were "in favor of voter fraud" or apologize for the lie. I bet Harry has uttered those words before, especially if it creates one party rule like we have now. And if you think there are not millions of other idiots like him around, you are not paying attention. And what does that have to do with me? Are you responsible for every word uttered by any conservative? You said "show me where *any* liberal... " And Harry is certainly a liberal, no? I'll bet good money Harry never said he was "in favor of voter fraud". Ergo, John owes an apology. Go read all of plum's posts. You'll find it. Ergo, no apology. -- John H Johnny, your little act is getting thin. Even your enlisted men are getting ready to mutiny. |
I just saw Obama's HS speech
Don White wrote:
"JohnH" wrote in message ... On Tue, 15 Sep 2009 11:39:09 -0400, NotNow wrote: JustWait wrote: In article , says... JustWait wrote: In article , says... JohnH wrote: On Mon, 14 Sep 2009 08:46:45 -0500, thunder wrote: On Mon, 14 Sep 2009 09:35:41 -0400, JustWait wrote: Not bull**** at all.. It was finally friday they agreed to put in legislation forcing folks to prove citizenship... Up until then it was deliberately left out of the law... That's nice. I guess we should all permanently carry our passports around with us, and clean underwear. You never know when you might be involved in an accident. So, how does that work? If you can't prove citizenship, to they kick you out unto the curb? Why not carry passports? Europeans do it, and it hasn't killed any of them. Hell, it might even reduce voter fraud. Oh, wait a minute, liberals are in *favor* of voter fraud. I forgot. -- John H Please show me where any liberal EVER said that they were "in favor of voter fraud" or apologize for the lie. I bet Harry has uttered those words before, especially if it creates one party rule like we have now. And if you think there are not millions of other idiots like him around, you are not paying attention. And what does that have to do with me? Are you responsible for every word uttered by any conservative? You said "show me where *any* liberal... " And Harry is certainly a liberal, no? I'll bet good money Harry never said he was "in favor of voter fraud". Ergo, John owes an apology. Go read all of plum's posts. You'll find it. Ergo, no apology. -- John H Johnny, your little act is getting thin. Even your enlisted men are getting ready to mutiny. But herring is such a *good* christian! :) -- Birther-Deather-Tenther-Teabagger: Idiots All |
I just saw Obama's HS speech
"Jim" wrote in message
... nom=de=plume wrote: "Jim" wrote in message ... nom=de=plume wrote: "Jim" wrote in message ... nom=de=plume wrote: "Jim" wrote in message ... How do you propose low income people pay for the passport? They're not cheap these days. Yeah, we're in favor of voter fraud like what happened in 2000 in Florida? right. Fraud? Nope. Just a few mis counted votes, hanging chad and the fact that Al gore kept demanding recounts until he was declared winner. Total fraud. Yet after Bush was elected by the Supreme Court, loyal Americans accepted the result. We didn't question that Bush was the president. After 9/11, Bush had something like 90% approval rating in the polls. The vast majority of the world were sympathetic and supportive. Instead of taking advantage of our remarkable position, Bush squandered it in a war of choice. Tens of thousands died, and we're much worse off, politically, financially, and morally. Now, answer the question. Already did, sweetie. No, you didn't: How do you propose low income people pay for the passport? They're not cheap these days. Oh, that question. I have no proposals with regard to how poor people obtain passports. You figure it out. You seem semi intelligent. Not require a national id card... but of course, this is a Republican talking point not mine. Did I say anything about a national ID card? I guess, maybe, I gave you too much credit. You said you don't know (or apparently care) how poor people obtain passports. Just because you're irritated doesn't mean you should scratch. Still with the personal insults.... what a creep. Why would poor people need passports, sweetie? If they could afford travel, is it too much of a stretch for you to figure out they could afford a passport. Read the thread and get back to us when you understand. -- Nom=de=Plume |
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