On Tue, 08 Sep 2009 11:16:40 -0600, SteveB wrote:


Personally, I think they should have let the kids have a day off, and
have a closed door session with the teachers. And have one in a month
and cut about 20% of the dead wood.

But that's just me.

I know a teacher who's near 30 years service who is retiring because he
has to follow a syllabus on what to teach, which includes things that
have nothing to do with the subject he is teaching. A loss. I have a
son who just graduated college looking for a job, and who I think would
make a good teacher. Lots of people who would make good teachers out
there, and a lot of tenured POS's who need to be led away from the
trough. If they cut the dead weight, believe me, there would be no
shortage of applicants.

Steve

LOL, I haven't heard such a great argument *for* tenure in years. Tenure
allows teachers to teach, without having to deal with BS like yours.

thunder wrote:
On Tue, 08 Sep 2009 11:16:40 -0600, SteveB wrote:


Personally, I think they should have let the kids have a day off, and
have a closed door session with the teachers. And have one in a month
and cut about 20% of the dead wood.

But that's just me.

I know a teacher who's near 30 years service who is retiring because he
has to follow a syllabus on what to teach, which includes things that
have nothing to do with the subject he is teaching. A loss. I have a
son who just graduated college looking for a job, and who I think would
make a good teacher. Lots of people who would make good teachers out
there, and a lot of tenured POS's who need to be led away from the
trough. If they cut the dead weight, believe me, there would be no
shortage of applicants.

Steve

LOL, I haven't heard such a great argument *for* tenure in years. Tenure
allows teachers to teach, without having to deal with BS like yours.


Tenure at the higher education level came about as a way to ensure
academic freedom at colleges and universities. Tenure in K-12 came about
to protect classroom teachers from harassment at the hands of school
administrators and school boards. That harassment for many female
teachers was sexual. Nowadays, with even more crazed fundies, birthers,
deathers, and the like attacking the public schools, classroom teachers
need tenure more than ever.


--
Birther-Deather-Tenther-Teabagger:
Idiots All

"thunder" wrote in message
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On Tue, 08 Sep 2009 11:16:40 -0600, SteveB wrote:


Personally, I think they should have let the kids have a day off, and
have a closed door session with the teachers. And have one in a month
and cut about 20% of the dead wood.

But that's just me.

I know a teacher who's near 30 years service who is retiring because he
has to follow a syllabus on what to teach, which includes things that
have nothing to do with the subject he is teaching. A loss. I have a
son who just graduated college looking for a job, and who I think would
make a good teacher. Lots of people who would make good teachers out
there, and a lot of tenured POS's who need to be led away from the
trough. If they cut the dead weight, believe me, there would be no
shortage of applicants.

Steve

LOL, I haven't heard such a great argument *for* tenure in years. Tenure
allows teachers to teach, without having to deal with BS like yours.

I'm sorry, but we are talking about two different things. I am talking
about teachers. You are talking about slugs who feed at the public trough.

My, my, my. The concept of having my children taught by a teacher who
doesn't have to deal with the BS of parents. Hmmmmmmmm. Wait, wait, I know
the answer to this.

Steve

On Tue, 08 Sep 2009 12:30:04 -0600, SteveB wrote:

"thunder" wrote in message
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On Tue, 08 Sep 2009 11:16:40 -0600, SteveB wrote:


Personally, I think they should have let the kids have a day off, and
have a closed door session with the teachers. And have one in a month
and cut about 20% of the dead wood.

But that's just me.

I know a teacher who's near 30 years service who is retiring because
he has to follow a syllabus on what to teach, which includes things
that have nothing to do with the subject he is teaching. A loss. I
have a son who just graduated college looking for a job, and who I
think would make a good teacher. Lots of people who would make good
teachers out there, and a lot of tenured POS's who need to be led away
from the trough. If they cut the dead weight, believe me, there would
be no shortage of applicants.

Steve

LOL, I haven't heard such a great argument *for* tenure in years.
Tenure allows teachers to teach, without having to deal with BS like
yours.

I'm sorry, but we are talking about two different things. I am talking
about teachers. You are talking about slugs who feed at the public
trough.

My, my, my. The concept of having my children taught by a teacher who
doesn't have to deal with the BS of parents. Hmmmmmmmm. Wait, wait, I
know the answer to this.

Ah, yes, teaching by committee. Outstanding. GB Halsted is just one
reason tenure for teachers was spread.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/G._B._Halsted

"thunder" wrote in message
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On Tue, 08 Sep 2009 12:30:04 -0600, SteveB wrote:

"thunder" wrote in message
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On Tue, 08 Sep 2009 11:16:40 -0600, SteveB wrote:


Personally, I think they should have let the kids have a day off, and
have a closed door session with the teachers. And have one in a month
and cut about 20% of the dead wood.

But that's just me.

I know a teacher who's near 30 years service who is retiring because
he has to follow a syllabus on what to teach, which includes things
that have nothing to do with the subject he is teaching. A loss. I
have a son who just graduated college looking for a job, and who I
think would make a good teacher. Lots of people who would make good
teachers out there, and a lot of tenured POS's who need to be led away
from the trough. If they cut the dead weight, believe me, there would
be no shortage of applicants.

Steve

LOL, I haven't heard such a great argument *for* tenure in years.
Tenure allows teachers to teach, without having to deal with BS like
yours.

I'm sorry, but we are talking about two different things. I am talking
about teachers. You are talking about slugs who feed at the public
trough.

My, my, my. The concept of having my children taught by a teacher who
doesn't have to deal with the BS of parents. Hmmmmmmmm. Wait, wait, I
know the answer to this.

Ah, yes, teaching by committee. Outstanding. GB Halsted is just one
reason tenure for teachers was spread.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/G._B._Halsted

As our friend who is retired from the schools stated, there should be either
tenure or unions, but not both.