"NotNow" wrote in message
...
JustWait wrote:
In article ,
says...
Personally, I think the president should speak to students in support of
studying and staying in school. What I can't stomach is all the
hypocrisy coming from the White House and Congress. For example:

http://tinyurl.com/l5zqje

Well, isn't this interesting:

snip
The controversy over President Obama's speech to the nation's
schoolchildren will likely be over shortly after Obama speaks today at
Wakefield High School in Arlington, Virginia. But when President George
H.W. Bush delivered a similar speech on October 1, 1991, from Alice Deal
Junior High School in Washington DC, the controversy was just beginning.
Democrats, then the majority party in Congress, not only denounced Bush's
speech -- they also ordered the General Accounting Office to investigate
its production and later summoned top Bush administration officials to
Capitol Hill for an extensive hearing on the issue.
/snip

Sure makes a few people here seem pretty uninformed (being nice),
especially the ones who suggested other presidents have not had any
problems addressing students.. Hummmm. Makes you wonder what other
"facts" and justifications they might have just "assumed" without basis
in fact... snerk


The difference is in CONTENT, plain and simple. Both Bush's and Reagan's
speeches were CLEARLY political in nature. That doesn't seem to bother
you, but Obama's speech clearly talking about success and succeeding, has
you in a twit.

I'm not "in a twit". You Dims act as though you can do no wrong and the Cons
can do no right. The reality is that both factions play a constant game of
trying to destroy each other while the country goes to hell in a hand
basket. Imagine how much greatness can be accomplished if it doesn't matter
who gets the credit.

Lu Powell wrote:

"NotNow" wrote in message
...
JustWait wrote:
In article ,
says...
Personally, I think the president should speak to students in
support of studying and staying in school. What I can't stomach is
all the hypocrisy coming from the White House and Congress. For
example:

http://tinyurl.com/l5zqje

Well, isn't this interesting:

snip
The controversy over President Obama's speech to the nation's
schoolchildren will likely be over shortly after Obama speaks today
at Wakefield High School in Arlington, Virginia. But when President
George H.W. Bush delivered a similar speech on October 1, 1991, from
Alice Deal Junior High School in Washington DC, the controversy was
just beginning. Democrats, then the majority party in Congress, not
only denounced Bush's speech -- they also ordered the General
Accounting Office to investigate its production and later summoned
top Bush administration officials to Capitol Hill for an extensive
hearing on the issue.
/snip

Sure makes a few people here seem pretty uninformed (being nice),
especially the ones who suggested other presidents have not had any
problems addressing students.. Hummmm. Makes you wonder what other
"facts" and justifications they might have just "assumed" without
basis in fact... snerk


The difference is in CONTENT, plain and simple. Both Bush's and
Reagan's speeches were CLEARLY political in nature. That doesn't seem
to bother you, but Obama's speech clearly talking about success and
succeeding, has you in a twit.

I'm not "in a twit". You Dims act as though you can do no wrong and the
Cons can do no right. The reality is that both factions play a constant
game of trying to destroy each other while the country goes to hell in a
hand basket. Imagine how much greatness can be accomplished if it
doesn't matter who gets the credit.





I give the "Cons" most of the credit for destroying this country and
everything good about it.

On Sep 8, 11:31*am, H K wrote:
Lu Powell wrote:

"NotNow" wrote in message
...
JustWait wrote:
In article ,
says...
Personally, I think the president should speak to students in
support of studying and staying in school. What I can't stomach is
all the hypocrisy coming from the White House and Congress. For
example:

http://tinyurl.com/l5zqje

Well, isn't this interesting:

snip
The controversy over President Obama's speech to the nation's
schoolchildren will likely be over shortly after Obama speaks today
at Wakefield High School in Arlington, Virginia. But when President
George H.W. Bush delivered a similar speech on October 1, 1991, from
Alice Deal Junior High School in Washington DC, the controversy was
just beginning. Democrats, then the majority party in Congress, not
only denounced Bush's speech -- they also ordered the General
Accounting Office to investigate its production and later summoned
top Bush administration officials to Capitol Hill for an extensive
hearing on the issue.
/snip

Sure makes a few people here seem pretty uninformed (being nice),
especially the ones who suggested other presidents have not had any
problems addressing students.. Hummmm. Makes you wonder what other
"facts" and justifications they might have just "assumed" without
basis in fact... snerk

The difference is in CONTENT, plain and simple. Both Bush's and
Reagan's speeches were CLEARLY political in nature. That doesn't seem
to bother you, but Obama's speech clearly talking about success and
succeeding, has you in a twit.

I'm not "in a twit". You Dims act as though you can do no wrong and the
Cons can do no right. The reality is that both factions play a constant
game of trying to destroy each other while the country goes to hell in a
hand basket. Imagine how much greatness can be accomplished if it
doesn't matter who gets the credit.

I give the "Cons" most of the credit for destroying this country and
everything good about it.

Until Obama agreed to release his speech and then did so, you had no
idea his speech would not be "political" according to your definition
but you did not object to any speech he would make before the release,
isnt this kinda hypocritical?

Frogwatch wrote:
On Sep 8, 11:31 am, H K wrote:
Lu Powell wrote:

"NotNow" wrote in message
...
JustWait wrote:
In article ,
says...
Personally, I think the president should speak to students in
support of studying and staying in school. What I can't stomach is
all the hypocrisy coming from the White House and Congress. For
example:
http://tinyurl.com/l5zqje
Well, isn't this interesting:
snip
The controversy over President Obama's speech to the nation's
schoolchildren will likely be over shortly after Obama speaks today
at Wakefield High School in Arlington, Virginia. But when President
George H.W. Bush delivered a similar speech on October 1, 1991, from
Alice Deal Junior High School in Washington DC, the controversy was
just beginning. Democrats, then the majority party in Congress, not
only denounced Bush's speech -- they also ordered the General
Accounting Office to investigate its production and later summoned
top Bush administration officials to Capitol Hill for an extensive
hearing on the issue.
/snip
Sure makes a few people here seem pretty uninformed (being nice),
especially the ones who suggested other presidents have not had any
problems addressing students.. Hummmm. Makes you wonder what other
"facts" and justifications they might have just "assumed" without
basis in fact... snerk
The difference is in CONTENT, plain and simple. Both Bush's and
Reagan's speeches were CLEARLY political in nature. That doesn't seem
to bother you, but Obama's speech clearly talking about success and
succeeding, has you in a twit.
I'm not "in a twit". You Dims act as though you can do no wrong and the
Cons can do no right. The reality is that both factions play a constant
game of trying to destroy each other while the country goes to hell in a
hand basket. Imagine how much greatness can be accomplished if it
doesn't matter who gets the credit.
I give the "Cons" most of the credit for destroying this country and
everything good about it.

Until Obama agreed to release his speech and then did so, you had no
idea his speech would not be "political" according to your definition
but you did not object to any speech he would make before the release,
isnt this kinda hypocritical?


Of course I did. I never expected him to give a "political" speech to
young schoolkids. Obama is giving precisely the speech we sentients
expected. The morons -the birthers, deathers, teabaggers, secessionists-
and their controllers on Faux News are all on your side of the table.

You know, I thought your side was scraping the bottom of the barrel
during the Bush Admin. Then John McCain selected an absolute moron for a
running mate, and it seemed the barrel was deeper. This morning, I saw a
few parents from South Carolina on cable news, and it was obvious they
were the birther-teabagger-deather Republicans. It's obvious your side
thinks its only chance to win elections is by spreading fear and hate.

On Sep 8, 12:12*pm, H K wrote:
Frogwatch wrote:
On Sep 8, 11:31 am, H K wrote:
Lu Powell wrote:

"NotNow" wrote in message
...
JustWait wrote:
In article ,
says...
Personally, I think the president should speak to students in
support of studying and staying in school. What I can't stomach is
all the hypocrisy coming from the White House and Congress. For
example:
http://tinyurl.com/l5zqje
Well, isn't this interesting:
snip
The controversy over President Obama's speech to the nation's
schoolchildren will likely be over shortly after Obama speaks today
at Wakefield High School in Arlington, Virginia. But when President
George H.W. Bush delivered a similar speech on October 1, 1991, from
Alice Deal Junior High School in Washington DC, the controversy was
just beginning. Democrats, then the majority party in Congress, not
only denounced Bush's speech -- they also ordered the General
Accounting Office to investigate its production and later summoned
top Bush administration officials to Capitol Hill for an extensive
hearing on the issue.
/snip
Sure makes a few people here seem pretty uninformed (being nice),
especially the ones who suggested other presidents have not had any
problems addressing students.. Hummmm. Makes you wonder what other
"facts" and justifications they might have just "assumed" without
basis in fact... snerk
The difference is in CONTENT, plain and simple. Both Bush's and
Reagan's speeches were CLEARLY political in nature. That doesn't seem
to bother you, but Obama's speech clearly talking about success and
succeeding, has you in a twit.
I'm not "in a twit". You Dims act as though you can do no wrong and the
Cons can do no right. The reality is that both factions play a constant
game of trying to destroy each other while the country goes to hell in a
hand basket. Imagine how much greatness can be accomplished if it
doesn't matter who gets the credit.
I give the "Cons" most of the credit for destroying this country and
everything good about it.

Until Obama agreed to release his speech and then did so, you had no
idea his speech would not be "political" according to your definition
but you did not object to any speech he would make before the release,
isnt this kinda hypocritical?

Of course I did. I never expected him to give a "political" speech to
young schoolkids. Obama is giving precisely the speech we sentients
expected. The morons -the birthers, deathers, teabaggers, secessionists-
and their controllers on Faux News are all on your side of the table.

You know, I thought your side was scraping the bottom of the barrel
during the Bush Admin. Then John McCain selected an absolute moron for a
running mate, and it seemed the barrel was deeper. This morning, I saw a
few parents from South Carolina on cable news, and it was obvious they
were the birther-teabagger-deather Republicans. It's obvious your side
thinks its only chance to win elections is by spreading fear and hate.

The Dems can howl with anger over Bush speaking to schoolkids but When
their guy speaks it is ok with them. Not exactly consistent is it.
I'd call it extreme hypocrisy. When they cannot defend their
hypocrisy, they try to change the subject.

Frogwatch wrote:
On Sep 8, 12:12 pm, H K wrote:
Frogwatch wrote:
On Sep 8, 11:31 am, H K wrote:
Lu Powell wrote:
"NotNow" wrote in message
...
JustWait wrote:
In article ,
says...
Personally, I think the president should speak to students in
support of studying and staying in school. What I can't stomach is
all the hypocrisy coming from the White House and Congress. For
example:
http://tinyurl.com/l5zqje
Well, isn't this interesting:
snip
The controversy over President Obama's speech to the nation's
schoolchildren will likely be over shortly after Obama speaks today
at Wakefield High School in Arlington, Virginia. But when President
George H.W. Bush delivered a similar speech on October 1, 1991, from
Alice Deal Junior High School in Washington DC, the controversy was
just beginning. Democrats, then the majority party in Congress, not
only denounced Bush's speech -- they also ordered the General
Accounting Office to investigate its production and later summoned
top Bush administration officials to Capitol Hill for an extensive
hearing on the issue.
/snip
Sure makes a few people here seem pretty uninformed (being nice),
especially the ones who suggested other presidents have not had any
problems addressing students.. Hummmm. Makes you wonder what other
"facts" and justifications they might have just "assumed" without
basis in fact... snerk
The difference is in CONTENT, plain and simple. Both Bush's and
Reagan's speeches were CLEARLY political in nature. That doesn't seem
to bother you, but Obama's speech clearly talking about success and
succeeding, has you in a twit.
I'm not "in a twit". You Dims act as though you can do no wrong and the
Cons can do no right. The reality is that both factions play a constant
game of trying to destroy each other while the country goes to hell in a
hand basket. Imagine how much greatness can be accomplished if it
doesn't matter who gets the credit.
I give the "Cons" most of the credit for destroying this country and
everything good about it.
Until Obama agreed to release his speech and then did so, you had no
idea his speech would not be "political" according to your definition
but you did not object to any speech he would make before the release,
isnt this kinda hypocritical?
Of course I did. I never expected him to give a "political" speech to
young schoolkids. Obama is giving precisely the speech we sentients
expected. The morons -the birthers, deathers, teabaggers, secessionists-
and their controllers on Faux News are all on your side of the table.

You know, I thought your side was scraping the bottom of the barrel
during the Bush Admin. Then John McCain selected an absolute moron for a
running mate, and it seemed the barrel was deeper. This morning, I saw a
few parents from South Carolina on cable news, and it was obvious they
were the birther-teabagger-deather Republicans. It's obvious your side
thinks its only chance to win elections is by spreading fear and hate.

The Dems can howl with anger over Bush speaking to schoolkids but When
their guy speaks it is ok with them. Not exactly consistent is it.
I'd call it extreme hypocrisy. When they cannot defend their
hypocrisy, they try to change the subject.


It didn't bother me when Bush I spoke to schoolkids, and it didn't
bother me when Reagan did it. In fact, I think it a great idea for the
POTUS to speak to schoolkids at the beginning of every school year, no
matter who the president is.

Your response, BTW, had nothing to do with my observation that all your
side has, and I mean all, is fear and hate. There is nothing else there.


--
Birther-Deather-Tenther-Teabagger:
Idiots All

On Sep 8, 1:13*pm, H the K wrote:
Frogwatch wrote:
On Sep 8, 12:12 pm, H K wrote:
Frogwatch wrote:
On Sep 8, 11:31 am, H K wrote:
Lu Powell wrote:
"NotNow" wrote in message
...
JustWait wrote:
In article ,
says...
Personally, I think the president should speak to students in
support of studying and staying in school. What I can't stomach is
all the hypocrisy coming from the White House and Congress. For
example:
http://tinyurl.com/l5zqje
Well, isn't this interesting:
snip
The controversy over President Obama's speech to the nation's
schoolchildren will likely be over shortly after Obama speaks today
at Wakefield High School in Arlington, Virginia. But when President
George H.W. Bush delivered a similar speech on October 1, 1991, from
Alice Deal Junior High School in Washington DC, the controversy was
just beginning. Democrats, then the majority party in Congress, not
only denounced Bush's speech -- they also ordered the General
Accounting Office to investigate its production and later summoned
top Bush administration officials to Capitol Hill for an extensive
hearing on the issue.
/snip
Sure makes a few people here seem pretty uninformed (being nice),
especially the ones who suggested other presidents have not had any
problems addressing students.. Hummmm. Makes you wonder what other
"facts" and justifications they might have just "assumed" without
basis in fact... snerk
The difference is in CONTENT, plain and simple. Both Bush's and
Reagan's speeches were CLEARLY political in nature. That doesn't seem
to bother you, but Obama's speech clearly talking about success and
succeeding, has you in a twit.
I'm not "in a twit". You Dims act as though you can do no wrong and the
Cons can do no right. The reality is that both factions play a constant
game of trying to destroy each other while the country goes to hell in a
hand basket. Imagine how much greatness can be accomplished if it
doesn't matter who gets the credit.
I give the "Cons" most of the credit for destroying this country and
everything good about it.
Until Obama agreed to release his speech and then did so, you had no
idea his speech would not be "political" according to your definition
but you did not object to any speech he would make before the release,
isnt this kinda hypocritical?
Of course I did. I never expected him to give a "political" speech to
young schoolkids. Obama is giving precisely the speech we sentients
expected. The morons -the birthers, deathers, teabaggers, secessionists-
and their controllers on Faux News are all on your side of the table.

You know, I thought your side was scraping the bottom of the barrel
during the Bush Admin. Then John McCain selected an absolute moron for a
running mate, and it seemed the barrel was deeper. This morning, I saw a
few parents from South Carolina on cable news, and it was obvious they
were the birther-teabagger-deather Republicans. It's obvious your side
thinks its only chance to win elections is by spreading fear and hate.

The Dems can howl with anger over Bush speaking to schoolkids but When
their guy speaks it is ok with them. *Not exactly consistent is it.
I'd call it extreme hypocrisy. *When they cannot defend their
hypocrisy, they try to change the subject.

It didn't bother me when Bush I spoke to schoolkids, and it didn't
bother me when Reagan did it. In fact, I think it a great idea for the
POTUS to speak to schoolkids at the beginning of every school year, no
matter who the president is.

Your response, BTW, had nothing to do with my observation that all your
side has, and I mean all, is fear and hate. There is nothing else there.

--
Birther-Deather-Tenther-Teabagger:
Idiots All

He
http://www.ed.gov/teachers/how/lessons/7-12.pdf
is the latest "lesson plan" for older kids, the one for younger ones
can be found at the same source. If this does not make you a little
nervous, then your love for authority is greater than mine. It seems
very 1984ish.
HK is obviously incapable of saying anything specific.

"Lu Powell" wrote in message
...
Imagine how much greatness can be accomplished if it doesn't matter who
gets the credit.


Exactly right....

Imagine...

Imagine there's no Heaven
It's easy if you try
No hell below us
Above us only sky
Imagine all the people
Living for today

Imagine there's no countries
It isn't hard to do
Nothing to kill or die for
And no religion too
Imagine all the people
Living life in peace

You may say that I'm a dreamer
But I'm not the only one
I hope someday you'll join us
And the world will be as one

Imagine no possessions
I wonder if you can
No need for greed or hunger
A brotherhood of man
Imagine all the people
Sharing all the world

You may say that I'm a dreamer
But I'm not the only one
I hope someday you'll join us
And the world will live as one



--
Nom=de=Plume