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On Tue, 08 Sep 2009 12:30:04 -0600, SteveB wrote:

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On Tue, 08 Sep 2009 11:16:40 -0600, SteveB wrote:


Personally, I think they should have let the kids have a day off, and
have a closed door session with the teachers. And have one in a month
and cut about 20% of the dead wood.

But that's just me.

I know a teacher who's near 30 years service who is retiring because
he has to follow a syllabus on what to teach, which includes things
that have nothing to do with the subject he is teaching. A loss. I
have a son who just graduated college looking for a job, and who I
think would make a good teacher. Lots of people who would make good
teachers out there, and a lot of tenured POS's who need to be led away
from the trough. If they cut the dead weight, believe me, there would
be no shortage of applicants.

Steve

LOL, I haven't heard such a great argument *for* tenure in years.
Tenure allows teachers to teach, without having to deal with BS like
yours.

I'm sorry, but we are talking about two different things. I am talking
about teachers. You are talking about slugs who feed at the public
trough.

My, my, my. The concept of having my children taught by a teacher who
doesn't have to deal with the BS of parents. Hmmmmmmmm. Wait, wait, I
know the answer to this.

Ah, yes, teaching by committee. Outstanding. GB Halsted is just one
reason tenure for teachers was spread.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/G._B._Halsted

As our friend who is retired from the schools stated, there should be either
tenure or unions, but not both.

Calif Bill wrote:
"thunder" wrote in message
t...
On Tue, 08 Sep 2009 12:30:04 -0600, SteveB wrote:

"thunder" wrote in message
...
On Tue, 08 Sep 2009 11:16:40 -0600, SteveB wrote:


Personally, I think they should have let the kids have a day off, and
have a closed door session with the teachers. And have one in a month
and cut about 20% of the dead wood.

But that's just me.

I know a teacher who's near 30 years service who is retiring because
he has to follow a syllabus on what to teach, which includes things
that have nothing to do with the subject he is teaching. A loss. I
have a son who just graduated college looking for a job, and who I
think would make a good teacher. Lots of people who would make good
teachers out there, and a lot of tenured POS's who need to be led away
from the trough. If they cut the dead weight, believe me, there would
be no shortage of applicants.

Steve
LOL, I haven't heard such a great argument *for* tenure in years.
Tenure allows teachers to teach, without having to deal with BS like
yours.
I'm sorry, but we are talking about two different things. I am talking
about teachers. You are talking about slugs who feed at the public
trough.

My, my, my. The concept of having my children taught by a teacher who
doesn't have to deal with the BS of parents. Hmmmmmmmm. Wait, wait, I
know the answer to this.
Ah, yes, teaching by committee. Outstanding. GB Halsted is just one
reason tenure for teachers was spread.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/G._B._Halsted

As our friend who is retired from the schools stated, there should be either
tenure or unions, but not both.



Uh...who do you think pays for the teacher's defense or even counsel in
a tenure hearing? The school board?

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Idiots All

"H the K" wrote in message
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Calif Bill wrote:
"thunder" wrote in message
t...
On Tue, 08 Sep 2009 12:30:04 -0600, SteveB wrote:

"thunder" wrote in message
...
On Tue, 08 Sep 2009 11:16:40 -0600, SteveB wrote:


Personally, I think they should have let the kids have a day off, and
have a closed door session with the teachers. And have one in a
month
and cut about 20% of the dead wood.

But that's just me.

I know a teacher who's near 30 years service who is retiring because
he has to follow a syllabus on what to teach, which includes things
that have nothing to do with the subject he is teaching. A loss. I
have a son who just graduated college looking for a job, and who I
think would make a good teacher. Lots of people who would make good
teachers out there, and a lot of tenured POS's who need to be led
away
from the trough. If they cut the dead weight, believe me, there
would
be no shortage of applicants.

Steve
LOL, I haven't heard such a great argument *for* tenure in years.
Tenure allows teachers to teach, without having to deal with BS like
yours.
I'm sorry, but we are talking about two different things. I am talking
about teachers. You are talking about slugs who feed at the public
trough.

My, my, my. The concept of having my children taught by a teacher who
doesn't have to deal with the BS of parents. Hmmmmmmmm. Wait, wait, I
know the answer to this.
Ah, yes, teaching by committee. Outstanding. GB Halsted is just one
reason tenure for teachers was spread.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/G._B._Halsted

As our friend who is retired from the schools stated, there should be
either tenure or unions, but not both.

Uh...who do you think pays for the teacher's defense or even counsel in a
tenure hearing? The school board?

--
Birther-Deather-Tenther-Teabagger:
Idiots All

Let them defend themselves. Tenure is not a union issue. If they lose the
case, they also lose money. If they win, they get reimbursed. same way
most of the rest of the jobs are handled.

Calif Bill wrote:
"H the K" wrote in message
m...
Calif Bill wrote:
"thunder" wrote in message
t...
On Tue, 08 Sep 2009 12:30:04 -0600, SteveB wrote:

"thunder" wrote in message
...
On Tue, 08 Sep 2009 11:16:40 -0600, SteveB wrote:


Personally, I think they should have let the kids have a day off, and
have a closed door session with the teachers. And have one in a
month
and cut about 20% of the dead wood.

But that's just me.

I know a teacher who's near 30 years service who is retiring because
he has to follow a syllabus on what to teach, which includes things
that have nothing to do with the subject he is teaching. A loss. I
have a son who just graduated college looking for a job, and who I
think would make a good teacher. Lots of people who would make good
teachers out there, and a lot of tenured POS's who need to be led
away
from the trough. If they cut the dead weight, believe me, there
would
be no shortage of applicants.

Steve
LOL, I haven't heard such a great argument *for* tenure in years.
Tenure allows teachers to teach, without having to deal with BS like
yours.
I'm sorry, but we are talking about two different things. I am talking
about teachers. You are talking about slugs who feed at the public
trough.

My, my, my. The concept of having my children taught by a teacher who
doesn't have to deal with the BS of parents. Hmmmmmmmm. Wait, wait, I
know the answer to this.
Ah, yes, teaching by committee. Outstanding. GB Halsted is just one
reason tenure for teachers was spread.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/G._B._Halsted
As our friend who is retired from the schools stated, there should be
either tenure or unions, but not both.
Uh...who do you think pays for the teacher's defense or even counsel in a
tenure hearing? The school board?

--
Birther-Deather-Tenther-Teabagger:
Idiots All

Let them defend themselves. Tenure is not a union issue. If they lose the
case, they also lose money. If they win, they get reimbursed. same way
most of the rest of the jobs are handled.



You think teachers should face a school board's attorneys without
representation?

And you aren't the bloke who decides what is or what is not a union issue.

Sorry,Bilious, but, as usual, you are wrong.



--
Birther-Deather-Tenther-Teabagger:
Idiots All

"H the K" wrote in message
m...
Calif Bill wrote:
"H the K" wrote in message
m...
Calif Bill wrote:
"thunder" wrote in message
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On Tue, 08 Sep 2009 12:30:04 -0600, SteveB wrote:

"thunder" wrote in message
...
On Tue, 08 Sep 2009 11:16:40 -0600, SteveB wrote:


Personally, I think they should have let the kids have a day off,
and
have a closed door session with the teachers. And have one in a
month
and cut about 20% of the dead wood.

But that's just me.

I know a teacher who's near 30 years service who is retiring
because
he has to follow a syllabus on what to teach, which includes things
that have nothing to do with the subject he is teaching. A loss.
I
have a son who just graduated college looking for a job, and who I
think would make a good teacher. Lots of people who would make
good
teachers out there, and a lot of tenured POS's who need to be led
away
from the trough. If they cut the dead weight, believe me, there
would
be no shortage of applicants.

Steve
LOL, I haven't heard such a great argument *for* tenure in years.
Tenure allows teachers to teach, without having to deal with BS like
yours.
I'm sorry, but we are talking about two different things. I am
talking
about teachers. You are talking about slugs who feed at the public
trough.

My, my, my. The concept of having my children taught by a teacher
who
doesn't have to deal with the BS of parents. Hmmmmmmmm. Wait, wait,
I
know the answer to this.
Ah, yes, teaching by committee. Outstanding. GB Halsted is just one
reason tenure for teachers was spread.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/G._B._Halsted
As our friend who is retired from the schools stated, there should be
either tenure or unions, but not both.
Uh...who do you think pays for the teacher's defense or even counsel in
a tenure hearing? The school board?

--
Birther-Deather-Tenther-Teabagger:
Idiots All

Let them defend themselves. Tenure is not a union issue. If they lose
the case, they also lose money. If they win, they get reimbursed. same
way most of the rest of the jobs are handled.

You think teachers should face a school board's attorneys without
representation?

And you aren't the bloke who decides what is or what is not a union issue.

Sorry,Bilious, but, as usual, you are wrong.



--
Birther-Deather-Tenther-Teabagger:
Idiots All

If you assume it is all union issues, then drive a stake through Tenure.

Calif Bill wrote:
"H the K" wrote in message
m...
Calif Bill wrote:
"H the K" wrote in message
m...
Calif Bill wrote:
"thunder" wrote in message
t...
On Tue, 08 Sep 2009 12:30:04 -0600, SteveB wrote:

"thunder" wrote in message
...
On Tue, 08 Sep 2009 11:16:40 -0600, SteveB wrote:


Personally, I think they should have let the kids have a day off,
and
have a closed door session with the teachers. And have one in a
month
and cut about 20% of the dead wood.

But that's just me.

I know a teacher who's near 30 years service who is retiring
because
he has to follow a syllabus on what to teach, which includes things
that have nothing to do with the subject he is teaching. A loss.
I
have a son who just graduated college looking for a job, and who I
think would make a good teacher. Lots of people who would make
good
teachers out there, and a lot of tenured POS's who need to be led
away
from the trough. If they cut the dead weight, believe me, there
would
be no shortage of applicants.

Steve
LOL, I haven't heard such a great argument *for* tenure in years.
Tenure allows teachers to teach, without having to deal with BS like
yours.
I'm sorry, but we are talking about two different things. I am
talking
about teachers. You are talking about slugs who feed at the public
trough.

My, my, my. The concept of having my children taught by a teacher
who
doesn't have to deal with the BS of parents. Hmmmmmmmm. Wait, wait,
I
know the answer to this.
Ah, yes, teaching by committee. Outstanding. GB Halsted is just one
reason tenure for teachers was spread.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/G._B._Halsted
As our friend who is retired from the schools stated, there should be
either tenure or unions, but not both.
Uh...who do you think pays for the teacher's defense or even counsel in
a tenure hearing? The school board?

--
Birther-Deather-Tenther-Teabagger:
Idiots All
Let them defend themselves. Tenure is not a union issue. If they lose
the case, they also lose money. If they win, they get reimbursed. same
way most of the rest of the jobs are handled.
You think teachers should face a school board's attorneys without
representation?

And you aren't the bloke who decides what is or what is not a union issue.

Sorry,Bilious, but, as usual, you are wrong.



--
Birther-Deather-Tenther-Teabagger:
Idiots All

If you assume it is all union issues, then drive a stake through Tenure.




Nonsense.

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Idiots All

"H the K" wrote in message
m...
Calif Bill wrote:
"H the K" wrote in message
m...
Calif Bill wrote:
"H the K" wrote in message
m...
Calif Bill wrote:
"thunder" wrote in message
t...
On Tue, 08 Sep 2009 12:30:04 -0600, SteveB wrote:

"thunder" wrote in message
...
On Tue, 08 Sep 2009 11:16:40 -0600, SteveB wrote:


Personally, I think they should have let the kids have a day off,
and
have a closed door session with the teachers. And have one in a
month
and cut about 20% of the dead wood.

But that's just me.

I know a teacher who's near 30 years service who is retiring
because
he has to follow a syllabus on what to teach, which includes
things
that have nothing to do with the subject he is teaching. A loss.
I
have a son who just graduated college looking for a job, and who
I
think would make a good teacher. Lots of people who would make
good
teachers out there, and a lot of tenured POS's who need to be led
away
from the trough. If they cut the dead weight, believe me, there
would
be no shortage of applicants.

Steve
LOL, I haven't heard such a great argument *for* tenure in years.
Tenure allows teachers to teach, without having to deal with BS
like
yours.
I'm sorry, but we are talking about two different things. I am
talking
about teachers. You are talking about slugs who feed at the public
trough.

My, my, my. The concept of having my children taught by a teacher
who
doesn't have to deal with the BS of parents. Hmmmmmmmm. Wait,
wait, I
know the answer to this.
Ah, yes, teaching by committee. Outstanding. GB Halsted is just one
reason tenure for teachers was spread.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/G._B._Halsted
As our friend who is retired from the schools stated, there should be
either tenure or unions, but not both.
Uh...who do you think pays for the teacher's defense or even counsel
in a tenure hearing? The school board?

--
Birther-Deather-Tenther-Teabagger:
Idiots All
Let them defend themselves. Tenure is not a union issue. If they lose
the case, they also lose money. If they win, they get reimbursed.
same way most of the rest of the jobs are handled.
You think teachers should face a school board's attorneys without
representation?

And you aren't the bloke who decides what is or what is not a union
issue.

Sorry,Bilious, but, as usual, you are wrong.



--
Birther-Deather-Tenther-Teabagger:
Idiots All

If you assume it is all union issues, then drive a stake through Tenure.


Nonsense.


An another nonsensical reply.