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John H.[_9_] September 5th 09 09:35 PM

Don't follow our example
 
On Sat, 05 Sep 2009 12:01:55 -0700, jps wrote:

On Sat, 5 Sep 2009 11:31:17 -0700 (PDT), Frogwatch
wrote:

I am trying to figure out what Obama could possibly say to
schoolchildren when he seems to have no qualifications on education.


Do you think you would feel qualified as an educator if you'd been
employed for several years as a professor of constitutional law?

Are you still popping your wife's pain meds?


A good description:

"In a move suggestive of the Pyongyang public school system, the U.S.
Department of Education recommended that before the speech students
collectively brainstorm questions like, 'Why does President Obama want
to speak with us today? How will he inspire us?' Classrooms are to be
festooned with 'notable quotes excerpted (and posted in large print on
board) from President Obama's speeches about education,' presumably
alongside benevolent-looking images of the dear leader."

Tripe.
--
John H

All decisions, even those made by liberals, are the result of binary thinking.

nom=de=plume September 5th 09 09:42 PM

Don't follow our example
 
"Frogwatch" wrote in message
...
Are you a birther or a bircher? It's hard to figure it out from your
diatribe. I guess it was ok for Reagan and both Bushs to talk to kids, as
they were Republicans.

--
Nom=de=Plume


Reagan and Bush's depts of ed did not issue soviet-like directives
about their speeches. They also did not issue north korean-like
presidential worship lesson plans.


This is just looney... you can *say* this, but that doesn't make it true.

Most of us have no problems with
the pres speaking to the kids but the way it has been done is like
something from North Korea and shows how completely incompetant this
administration is.


Apparently it was ok when Reagan talked about his tax-cut proposals to kids
and when Bush the First asked kids to write him with how they could help
him.

But, it's not ok when Obama does this.

Quite frankly, the Obama admin seems to be composed of total morons.


Compared to what? Bush II?

There is no possible way that anybody with any intelligence would
allow these people to get anywhere near their health care. It would
not matter if 99% of voters voted for Obama and still supported him,
the other 1% should use any means necessary to prevent their lives
being put in danger by having morons running health care. You do not
allow the inmates of an asylum to run around with loaded guns no
matter how they vote.


Over 70% of the voting public is in favor of a public option, which despite
your attempt to make a competitive option sound like a gov't takeover of US
healthcare, isn't. So, what you're saying is that 70% of the voting public
has no intelligence. Quite a statement.

--
Nom=de=Plume



nom=de=plume September 5th 09 09:47 PM

Don't follow our example
 
"Frogwatch" wrote in message
...
I am trying to figure out what Obama could possibly say to
schoolchildren when he seems to have no qualifications on education.


Yeah! He only taught Constitutional law. Nothing to do with education
there.


I taught college physics, certainly more useful than teaching law but
that does not make me an expert on education AND there is that record
of failure of his.


According to you. I guess that constitutional law isn't too important
then... something that directly impacts us on a daily basis.

You're not an expert in education, neither is Obama and neither were the
Bushs or Reagan. But it was ok for them to talk about doing well in school,
but it's not ok for Obama.

AND, what record of failure are you talking about? He excelled in school...
Honestly, it's not even clear what you've written, since it was written none
to well. No offense intended.

--
Nom=de=Plume



nom=de=plume September 5th 09 09:52 PM

Don't follow our example
 
"Frogwatch" wrote in message
...
As I have pointed out, the only thing Obama has consistently done is
to fail. Do you truly want such an abject failure trying to motivate
your kids?



Yeah, I guess getting elected president is a failure. I guess getting
elected to the Senate is a failure. I guess graduating from Columbia and
Harvard, and him being the head of president of the Harvard Law Review are
all failures!

Please give us some comparison to your own life or that of someone else you
admire. I'd like to be sure I understand your comment.

--
Nom=de=Plume



nom=de=plume September 5th 09 09:54 PM

Don't follow our example
 
"John H." wrote in message
...
I am trying to figure out what Obama could possibly say to
schoolchildren when he seems to have no qualifications on education.


Do you think you would feel qualified as an educator if you'd been
employed for several years as a professor of constitutional law?

Are you still popping your wife's pain meds?


A professor of constitutional law is in no way qualified to teach K-12
in the Virginia public schools, and I doubt if he would be qualified
in any other state. Of course, Chicago would probably hire him.


I guess you've never had the opportunity to have a guest lecturer on campus.

Is teaching what he's doing or is he giving a talk about why education is
important? Ummm... let's see.

Nice strawman though.

I would have no problems with him providing any university with a
lesson plan and a televised speech.


Neither would I. What's your point?

--
Nom=de=Plume



jps September 5th 09 10:02 PM

Don't follow our example
 
On Sat, 5 Sep 2009 13:54:19 -0700, "nom=de=plume"
wrote:

"John H." wrote in message
.. .
I am trying to figure out what Obama could possibly say to
schoolchildren when he seems to have no qualifications on education.

Do you think you would feel qualified as an educator if you'd been
employed for several years as a professor of constitutional law?

Are you still popping your wife's pain meds?


A professor of constitutional law is in no way qualified to teach K-12
in the Virginia public schools, and I doubt if he would be qualified
in any other state. Of course, Chicago would probably hire him.


I guess you've never had the opportunity to have a guest lecturer on campus.

Is teaching what he's doing or is he giving a talk about why education is
important? Ummm... let's see.

Nice strawman though.

I would have no problems with him providing any university with a
lesson plan and a televised speech.


Neither would I. What's your point?


Herring doesn't have points, other than talking.

jps September 5th 09 10:07 PM

Don't follow our example
 
On Sat, 5 Sep 2009 13:42:59 -0700, "nom=de=plume"
wrote:

"Frogwatch" wrote in message
...
Are you a birther or a bircher? It's hard to figure it out from your
diatribe. I guess it was ok for Reagan and both Bushs to talk to kids, as
they were Republicans.

--
Nom=de=Plume


Reagan and Bush's depts of ed did not issue soviet-like directives
about their speeches. They also did not issue north korean-like
presidential worship lesson plans.


This is just looney... you can *say* this, but that doesn't make it true.

Most of us have no problems with
the pres speaking to the kids but the way it has been done is like
something from North Korea and shows how completely incompetant this
administration is.


Apparently it was ok when Reagan talked about his tax-cut proposals to kids
and when Bush the First asked kids to write him with how they could help
him.

But, it's not ok when Obama does this.

Quite frankly, the Obama admin seems to be composed of total morons.


Compared to what? Bush II?

There is no possible way that anybody with any intelligence would
allow these people to get anywhere near their health care. It would
not matter if 99% of voters voted for Obama and still supported him,
the other 1% should use any means necessary to prevent their lives
being put in danger by having morons running health care. You do not
allow the inmates of an asylum to run around with loaded guns no
matter how they vote.


Over 70% of the voting public is in favor of a public option, which despite
your attempt to make a competitive option sound like a gov't takeover of US
healthcare, isn't. So, what you're saying is that 70% of the voting public
has no intelligence. Quite a statement.


Statements coming from the right don't have to be true.

They just have to stir up some emotion that's sitting deep inside
these sore losers and bigots.

Frogwatch September 6th 09 12:19 AM

Don't follow our example
 
On Sep 5, 5:07*pm, jps wrote:
On Sat, 5 Sep 2009 13:42:59 -0700, "nom=de=plume"



wrote:
"Frogwatch" wrote in message
....
Are you a birther or a bircher? It's hard to figure it out from your
diatribe. I guess it was ok for Reagan and both Bushs to talk to kids, as
they were Republicans.


--
Nom=de=Plume


Reagan and Bush's depts of ed did not issue soviet-like directives
about their speeches. *They also did not issue north korean-like
presidential worship lesson plans.


This is just looney... you can *say* this, but that doesn't make it true..


Most of us have no problems with
the pres speaking to the kids but the way it has been done is like
something from North Korea and shows how completely incompetant this
administration is.


Apparently it was ok when Reagan talked about his tax-cut proposals to kids
and when Bush the First asked kids to write him with how they could help
him.


But, it's not ok when Obama does this.


Quite frankly, the Obama admin seems to be composed of total morons.


Compared to what? Bush II?


There is no possible way that anybody with any intelligence would
allow these people to get anywhere near their health care. *It would
not matter if 99% of voters voted for Obama and still supported him,
the other 1% should use any means necessary to prevent their lives
being put in danger by having morons running health care. *You do not
allow the inmates of an asylum to run around with loaded guns no
matter how they vote.


Over 70% of the voting public is in favor of a public option, which despite
your attempt to make a competitive option sound like a gov't takeover of US
healthcare, isn't. So, what you're saying is that 70% of the voting public
has no intelligence. Quite a statement.


Statements coming from the right don't have to be true. *

They just have to stir up some emotion that's sitting deep inside
these sore losers and bigots.


Except for running for office, Obama's entire life has been a complete
failure. Getting a law degree, no big deal, that is for slightly
motivated people who simply are not smart enough to do science,
engineering or run a business.
Before running for office, he ran the Chicago Annenberg Challenge and
was a total failure. He was a failure as a senator and as a
president.
Teaching a college class does not mean anything about high school
education. BTW, my brother and sister were editors of Law review at
FSU and Uof F and both say it is a role for suckers that looks good on
a resume but is otherwise meaningless.
His entire approach to this speech has been clueless in the extreme.
The Soviet-like directive to school systems that seem guaranteed to
cause problems and the worshipful lesson plans were done so badly as
to make one wonder about his sanity and intelligence. However, I do
not wonder, it is plain to me that he is simply stupid. Bush was a
genius by comparison. Bozoma cannot get anything done even though his
party controls both houses of congress while Bush got most of what he
wanted even when the Dems controlled both houses. Oboma is simply
stupid and has surrounded himself by people are more so.

H the K[_2_] September 6th 09 12:23 AM

Don't follow our example
 
Frogwatch wrote:

Except for running for office, Obama's entire life has been a complete
failure. Getting a law degree, no big deal, that is for slightly
motivated people who simply are not smart enough to do science,
engineering or run a business.


Well, now you are devolving down into moron status. Good work.

--
Birther-Deather-Tenther-Teabagger:
Idiots All

Vic Smith September 6th 09 01:15 AM

Don't follow our example
 
On Sat, 5 Sep 2009 16:19:07 -0700 (PDT), Frogwatch
wrote:



Except for running for office, Obama's entire life has been a complete
failure.


Right.
POTUS.
A failed life.
Sure.
Get over your jealousy.
You know, if you take care of yourself, who's prez don't matter.
Just work around it, taking advantage when you can.
Did you get some of that cash-for-clunkers gravy?
How about some of that BOA or Ford stock?
You can short what you think will go down.
The Wall Street casino is alive and kicking.
Maybe do some real estate speculation.
Work your business into defense contracts, or healthcare.
Take some personal responsibility. Use your imagination.
Blaming your shortcomings on Obama won't work any better than blaming
them on Bush.
Crybabys don't go far in life.
Okay, no more preaching.
Hey, I'm going to Florida next week. Gonna be fun.
Fishing. No caving.

--Vic






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