BoatBanter.com

BoatBanter.com (https://www.boatbanter.com/)
-   General (https://www.boatbanter.com/general/)
-   -   Don't follow our example (https://www.boatbanter.com/general/109530-dont-follow-our-example.html)

Frogwatch[_2_] September 5th 09 07:31 PM

Don't follow our example
 
I am trying to figure out what Obama could possibly say to
schoolchildren when he seems to have no qualifications on education.
In fact, before becoming a senator, the only thing he ever did was to
run the Chicago Annenberg Challenge, a $15 million program to raise
test scores of schoolkids in Chicago that was a total failure with
test scores dropping further. His head of the Dept of Education ran
the Chicago School System, one of the worst in the country with one of
the highest drop out rates anywhere, a total failure. What could
these people be qualified to say to schoolkids, "Dont **** up like we
did"?
Their Dept Of Education Directive to local school systems to show the
Messiah's speech followed by their North Korean style worshipful of
Obama lesson plan is a clear usurption of local school systems control
and is so clearly so Soviet-like that anybody with more than two
neurons would balk at it.
The "Let's Worship Obama" lesson plan would not produce admiration
from kids in High School, it would produce contempt. Their failure to
recognize this places them so far out from reality as to clearly
illustrate their incompetance. I can guarantee that after doing this
worshipful worksheet, high school kids are going to go out and burn as
much gas as they can just to rebel against stupidity.
High School kids are going to listen to him and do this BS work and
then think "Somewhere in Kenya a village is missing it's idiot". I
have no problem with this as it will cause these kids to vote against
liberal stupidity when they turn 18 but it does show that the USA is
in real trouble right now.

jps September 5th 09 08:01 PM

Don't follow our example
 
On Sat, 5 Sep 2009 11:31:17 -0700 (PDT), Frogwatch
wrote:

I am trying to figure out what Obama could possibly say to
schoolchildren when he seems to have no qualifications on education.


Do you think you would feel qualified as an educator if you'd been
employed for several years as a professor of constitutional law?

Are you still popping your wife's pain meds?

nom=de=plume September 5th 09 08:38 PM

Don't follow our example
 
"Frogwatch" wrote in message
...
I am trying to figure out what Obama could possibly say to
schoolchildren when he seems to have no qualifications on education.


Yeah! He only taught Constitutional law. Nothing to do with education there.

snip

The "Let's Worship Obama" lesson plan would not produce admiration
from kids in High School, it would produce contempt. Their failure to
recognize this places them so far out from reality as to clearly
illustrate their incompetance. I can guarantee that after doing this
worshipful worksheet, high school kids are going to go out and burn as
much gas as they can just to rebel against stupidity.
High School kids are going to listen to him and do this BS work and
then think "Somewhere in Kenya a village is missing it's idiot". I
have no problem with this as it will cause these kids to vote against
liberal stupidity when they turn 18 but it does show that the USA is
in real trouble right now.


Are you a birther or a bircher? It's hard to figure it out from your
diatribe. I guess it was ok for Reagan and both Bushs to talk to kids, as
they were Republicans.

--
Nom=de=Plume



Keith nuttle September 5th 09 09:06 PM

Don't follow our example
 
jps wrote:
On Sat, 5 Sep 2009 11:31:17 -0700 (PDT), Frogwatch
wrote:

I am trying to figure out what Obama could possibly say to
schoolchildren when he seems to have no qualifications on education.


Do you think you would feel qualified as an educator if you'd been
employed for several years as a professor of constitutional law?

Are you still popping your wife's pain meds?

Was obama a professor of Constitutional law?

From his actions he and biden appear to have no knowledge that the US
Constitution exist. At the time of the debates biden did not know that
the Vice President presided over the US Senate and thought that
President Bush and Vice President Cheney were trying to take over the
Senate because of Vice President Cheney involvement in the US Senate.

State Rights issues appears to be an unknown obama. He still thinks
that President Bush did not move into New Orleans without a written
request from the local government because President Bush was refusing to
provide federal assistance to the flooded city.


Frogwatch[_2_] September 5th 09 09:10 PM

Don't follow our example
 
On Sep 5, 3:38*pm, "nom=de=plume" wrote:
"Frogwatch" wrote in message

...

I am trying to figure out what Obama could possibly say to
schoolchildren when he seems to have no qualifications on education.


Yeah! He only taught Constitutional law. Nothing to do with education there.

snip

The "Let's Worship Obama" lesson plan would not produce admiration
from kids in High School, it would produce contempt. *Their failure to
recognize this places them so far out from reality as to clearly
illustrate their incompetance. *I can guarantee that after doing this
worshipful worksheet, high school kids are going to go out and burn as
much gas as they can just to rebel against stupidity.
High School kids are going to listen to him and do this BS work and
then think "Somewhere in Kenya a village is missing it's idiot". *I
have no problem with this as it will cause these kids to vote against
liberal stupidity when they turn 18 but it does show that the USA is
in real trouble right now.


Are you a birther or a bircher? It's hard to figure it out from your
diatribe. I guess it was ok for Reagan and both Bushs to talk to kids, as
they were Republicans.

--
Nom=de=Plume


Reagan and Bush's depts of ed did not issue soviet-like directives
about their speeches. They also did not issue north korean-like
presidential worship lesson plans. Most of us have no problems with
the pres speaking to the kids but the way it has been done is like
something from North Korea and shows how completely incompetant this
administration is.
When you combine this with all of Obama's appointees who have somehow
forgotten to pay their taxes while wanting US to pay more and the
controversy over van Jones and the disastrous porkulus program and the
Cash for Clunkers that accomplished nothing and the war going badly in
Afghanistan and over 10% unemployment and a deficit far higher than
anything Bush could have conceived in his wildest imaginings you get
an impression of stupidity.
Quite frankly, the Obama admin seems to be composed of total morons.
There is no possible way that anybody with any intelligence would
allow these people to get anywhere near their health care. It would
not matter if 99% of voters voted for Obama and still supported him,
the other 1% should use any means necessary to prevent their lives
being put in danger by having morons running health care. You do not
allow the inmates of an asylum to run around with loaded guns no
matter how they vote.

Frogwatch[_2_] September 5th 09 09:12 PM

Don't follow our example
 
On Sep 5, 4:10*pm, Frogwatch wrote:
On Sep 5, 3:38*pm, "nom=de=plume" wrote:



"Frogwatch" wrote in message


....


I am trying to figure out what Obama could possibly say to
schoolchildren when he seems to have no qualifications on education.


Yeah! He only taught Constitutional law. Nothing to do with education there.


snip


The "Let's Worship Obama" lesson plan would not produce admiration
from kids in High School, it would produce contempt. *Their failure to
recognize this places them so far out from reality as to clearly
illustrate their incompetance. *I can guarantee that after doing this
worshipful worksheet, high school kids are going to go out and burn as
much gas as they can just to rebel against stupidity.
High School kids are going to listen to him and do this BS work and
then think "Somewhere in Kenya a village is missing it's idiot". *I
have no problem with this as it will cause these kids to vote against
liberal stupidity when they turn 18 but it does show that the USA is
in real trouble right now.


Are you a birther or a bircher? It's hard to figure it out from your
diatribe. I guess it was ok for Reagan and both Bushs to talk to kids, as
they were Republicans.


--
Nom=de=Plume


Reagan and Bush's depts of ed did not issue soviet-like directives
about their speeches. *They also did not issue north korean-like
presidential worship lesson plans. *Most of us have no problems with
the pres speaking to the kids but the way it has been done is like
something from North Korea and shows how completely incompetant this
administration is.
When you combine this with all of Obama's appointees who have somehow
forgotten to pay their taxes while wanting US to pay more and the
controversy over van Jones and the disastrous porkulus program and the
Cash for Clunkers that accomplished nothing and the war going badly in
Afghanistan and over 10% unemployment and a deficit far higher than
anything Bush could have conceived in his wildest imaginings you get
an impression of stupidity.
Quite frankly, the Obama admin seems to be composed of total morons.
There is no possible way that anybody with any intelligence would
allow these people to get anywhere near their health care. *It would
not matter if 99% of voters voted for Obama and still supported him,
the other 1% should use any means necessary to prevent their lives
being put in danger by having morons running health care. *You do not
allow the inmates of an asylum to run around with loaded guns no
matter how they vote.


I taught college physics, certainly more useful than teaching law but
that does not make me an expert on education AND there is that record
of failure of his.

Frogwatch[_2_] September 5th 09 09:21 PM

Don't follow our example
 
On Sep 5, 4:12*pm, Frogwatch wrote:
On Sep 5, 4:10*pm, Frogwatch wrote:



On Sep 5, 3:38*pm, "nom=de=plume" wrote:


"Frogwatch" wrote in message


....


I am trying to figure out what Obama could possibly say to
schoolchildren when he seems to have no qualifications on education..


Yeah! He only taught Constitutional law. Nothing to do with education there.


snip


The "Let's Worship Obama" lesson plan would not produce admiration
from kids in High School, it would produce contempt. *Their failure to
recognize this places them so far out from reality as to clearly
illustrate their incompetance. *I can guarantee that after doing this
worshipful worksheet, high school kids are going to go out and burn as
much gas as they can just to rebel against stupidity.
High School kids are going to listen to him and do this BS work and
then think "Somewhere in Kenya a village is missing it's idiot". *I
have no problem with this as it will cause these kids to vote against
liberal stupidity when they turn 18 but it does show that the USA is
in real trouble right now.


Are you a birther or a bircher? It's hard to figure it out from your
diatribe. I guess it was ok for Reagan and both Bushs to talk to kids, as
they were Republicans.


--
Nom=de=Plume


Reagan and Bush's depts of ed did not issue soviet-like directives
about their speeches. *They also did not issue north korean-like
presidential worship lesson plans. *Most of us have no problems with
the pres speaking to the kids but the way it has been done is like
something from North Korea and shows how completely incompetant this
administration is.
When you combine this with all of Obama's appointees who have somehow
forgotten to pay their taxes while wanting US to pay more and the
controversy over van Jones and the disastrous porkulus program and the
Cash for Clunkers that accomplished nothing and the war going badly in
Afghanistan and over 10% unemployment and a deficit far higher than
anything Bush could have conceived in his wildest imaginings you get
an impression of stupidity.
Quite frankly, the Obama admin seems to be composed of total morons.
There is no possible way that anybody with any intelligence would
allow these people to get anywhere near their health care. *It would
not matter if 99% of voters voted for Obama and still supported him,
the other 1% should use any means necessary to prevent their lives
being put in danger by having morons running health care. *You do not
allow the inmates of an asylum to run around with loaded guns no
matter how they vote.


I taught college physics, certainly more useful than teaching law but
that does not make me an expert on education AND there is that record
of failure of his.


As I have pointed out, the only thing Obama has consistently done is
to fail. Do you truly want such an abject failure trying to motivate
your kids?

John H.[_9_] September 5th 09 09:25 PM

Don't follow our example
 
On Sat, 05 Sep 2009 12:01:55 -0700, jps wrote:

On Sat, 5 Sep 2009 11:31:17 -0700 (PDT), Frogwatch
wrote:

I am trying to figure out what Obama could possibly say to
schoolchildren when he seems to have no qualifications on education.


Do you think you would feel qualified as an educator if you'd been
employed for several years as a professor of constitutional law?

Are you still popping your wife's pain meds?


A professor of constitutional law is in no way qualified to teach K-12
in the Virginia public schools, and I doubt if he would be qualified
in any other state. Of course, Chicago would probably hire him.

I would have no problems with him providing any university with a
lesson plan and a televised speech.
--
John H

All decisions, even those made by liberals, are the result of binary thinking.

jps September 5th 09 09:28 PM

Don't follow our example
 
On Sat, 05 Sep 2009 16:06:45 -0400, Keith Nuttle
wrote:

jps wrote:
On Sat, 5 Sep 2009 11:31:17 -0700 (PDT), Frogwatch
wrote:

I am trying to figure out what Obama could possibly say to
schoolchildren when he seems to have no qualifications on education.


Do you think you would feel qualified as an educator if you'd been
employed for several years as a professor of constitutional law?

Are you still popping your wife's pain meds?

Was obama a professor of Constitutional law?

From his actions he and biden appear to have no knowledge that the US
Constitution exist.


We're not talking about Biden.

The specific complaint was the he has no basis for addressing school
children since he has qualifications as a teacher.

Do you something to refute my assertion that he has every
qualification to think of himself as a teacher as a result of having
been paid as a professor or constitutional law at a university?

Besides that, he's the leader of our country.

The problem here is that some folks can't get over that there's a
black man in the White House and some folks are just sour grapes
losers who can't get over the fact that their party is woefully out of
power.

Bigots and sore losers. What a team.

jps September 5th 09 09:32 PM

Don't follow our example
 
On Sat, 5 Sep 2009 13:10:27 -0700 (PDT), Frogwatch
wrote:

On Sep 5, 3:38*pm, "nom=de=plume" wrote:
"Frogwatch" wrote in message

...

I am trying to figure out what Obama could possibly say to
schoolchildren when he seems to have no qualifications on education.


Yeah! He only taught Constitutional law. Nothing to do with education there.

snip

The "Let's Worship Obama" lesson plan would not produce admiration
from kids in High School, it would produce contempt. *Their failure to
recognize this places them so far out from reality as to clearly
illustrate their incompetance. *I can guarantee that after doing this
worshipful worksheet, high school kids are going to go out and burn as
much gas as they can just to rebel against stupidity.
High School kids are going to listen to him and do this BS work and
then think "Somewhere in Kenya a village is missing it's idiot". *I
have no problem with this as it will cause these kids to vote against
liberal stupidity when they turn 18 but it does show that the USA is
in real trouble right now.


Are you a birther or a bircher? It's hard to figure it out from your
diatribe. I guess it was ok for Reagan and both Bushs to talk to kids, as
they were Republicans.

--
Nom=de=Plume


Reagan and Bush's depts of ed did not issue soviet-like directives
about their speeches.


According to you, internationally recognized authority on propaganda.

Truth is, each of the Republican presidents used the pulpit to forward
their agendas with school children.

Some of us were adult enough to hold our noses and let the kids hear
what they had to say.

The infantile response of the "conservative" base is mind blowing.

Grow up and get over the fact that your party is in shambles and has
lost control of the country. And thank God it's in smarter hands.

John H.[_9_] September 5th 09 09:35 PM

Don't follow our example
 
On Sat, 05 Sep 2009 12:01:55 -0700, jps wrote:

On Sat, 5 Sep 2009 11:31:17 -0700 (PDT), Frogwatch
wrote:

I am trying to figure out what Obama could possibly say to
schoolchildren when he seems to have no qualifications on education.


Do you think you would feel qualified as an educator if you'd been
employed for several years as a professor of constitutional law?

Are you still popping your wife's pain meds?


A good description:

"In a move suggestive of the Pyongyang public school system, the U.S.
Department of Education recommended that before the speech students
collectively brainstorm questions like, 'Why does President Obama want
to speak with us today? How will he inspire us?' Classrooms are to be
festooned with 'notable quotes excerpted (and posted in large print on
board) from President Obama's speeches about education,' presumably
alongside benevolent-looking images of the dear leader."

Tripe.
--
John H

All decisions, even those made by liberals, are the result of binary thinking.

nom=de=plume September 5th 09 09:42 PM

Don't follow our example
 
"Frogwatch" wrote in message
...
Are you a birther or a bircher? It's hard to figure it out from your
diatribe. I guess it was ok for Reagan and both Bushs to talk to kids, as
they were Republicans.

--
Nom=de=Plume


Reagan and Bush's depts of ed did not issue soviet-like directives
about their speeches. They also did not issue north korean-like
presidential worship lesson plans.


This is just looney... you can *say* this, but that doesn't make it true.

Most of us have no problems with
the pres speaking to the kids but the way it has been done is like
something from North Korea and shows how completely incompetant this
administration is.


Apparently it was ok when Reagan talked about his tax-cut proposals to kids
and when Bush the First asked kids to write him with how they could help
him.

But, it's not ok when Obama does this.

Quite frankly, the Obama admin seems to be composed of total morons.


Compared to what? Bush II?

There is no possible way that anybody with any intelligence would
allow these people to get anywhere near their health care. It would
not matter if 99% of voters voted for Obama and still supported him,
the other 1% should use any means necessary to prevent their lives
being put in danger by having morons running health care. You do not
allow the inmates of an asylum to run around with loaded guns no
matter how they vote.


Over 70% of the voting public is in favor of a public option, which despite
your attempt to make a competitive option sound like a gov't takeover of US
healthcare, isn't. So, what you're saying is that 70% of the voting public
has no intelligence. Quite a statement.

--
Nom=de=Plume



nom=de=plume September 5th 09 09:47 PM

Don't follow our example
 
"Frogwatch" wrote in message
...
I am trying to figure out what Obama could possibly say to
schoolchildren when he seems to have no qualifications on education.


Yeah! He only taught Constitutional law. Nothing to do with education
there.


I taught college physics, certainly more useful than teaching law but
that does not make me an expert on education AND there is that record
of failure of his.


According to you. I guess that constitutional law isn't too important
then... something that directly impacts us on a daily basis.

You're not an expert in education, neither is Obama and neither were the
Bushs or Reagan. But it was ok for them to talk about doing well in school,
but it's not ok for Obama.

AND, what record of failure are you talking about? He excelled in school...
Honestly, it's not even clear what you've written, since it was written none
to well. No offense intended.

--
Nom=de=Plume



nom=de=plume September 5th 09 09:52 PM

Don't follow our example
 
"Frogwatch" wrote in message
...
As I have pointed out, the only thing Obama has consistently done is
to fail. Do you truly want such an abject failure trying to motivate
your kids?



Yeah, I guess getting elected president is a failure. I guess getting
elected to the Senate is a failure. I guess graduating from Columbia and
Harvard, and him being the head of president of the Harvard Law Review are
all failures!

Please give us some comparison to your own life or that of someone else you
admire. I'd like to be sure I understand your comment.

--
Nom=de=Plume



nom=de=plume September 5th 09 09:54 PM

Don't follow our example
 
"John H." wrote in message
...
I am trying to figure out what Obama could possibly say to
schoolchildren when he seems to have no qualifications on education.


Do you think you would feel qualified as an educator if you'd been
employed for several years as a professor of constitutional law?

Are you still popping your wife's pain meds?


A professor of constitutional law is in no way qualified to teach K-12
in the Virginia public schools, and I doubt if he would be qualified
in any other state. Of course, Chicago would probably hire him.


I guess you've never had the opportunity to have a guest lecturer on campus.

Is teaching what he's doing or is he giving a talk about why education is
important? Ummm... let's see.

Nice strawman though.

I would have no problems with him providing any university with a
lesson plan and a televised speech.


Neither would I. What's your point?

--
Nom=de=Plume



jps September 5th 09 10:02 PM

Don't follow our example
 
On Sat, 5 Sep 2009 13:54:19 -0700, "nom=de=plume"
wrote:

"John H." wrote in message
.. .
I am trying to figure out what Obama could possibly say to
schoolchildren when he seems to have no qualifications on education.

Do you think you would feel qualified as an educator if you'd been
employed for several years as a professor of constitutional law?

Are you still popping your wife's pain meds?


A professor of constitutional law is in no way qualified to teach K-12
in the Virginia public schools, and I doubt if he would be qualified
in any other state. Of course, Chicago would probably hire him.


I guess you've never had the opportunity to have a guest lecturer on campus.

Is teaching what he's doing or is he giving a talk about why education is
important? Ummm... let's see.

Nice strawman though.

I would have no problems with him providing any university with a
lesson plan and a televised speech.


Neither would I. What's your point?


Herring doesn't have points, other than talking.

jps September 5th 09 10:07 PM

Don't follow our example
 
On Sat, 5 Sep 2009 13:42:59 -0700, "nom=de=plume"
wrote:

"Frogwatch" wrote in message
...
Are you a birther or a bircher? It's hard to figure it out from your
diatribe. I guess it was ok for Reagan and both Bushs to talk to kids, as
they were Republicans.

--
Nom=de=Plume


Reagan and Bush's depts of ed did not issue soviet-like directives
about their speeches. They also did not issue north korean-like
presidential worship lesson plans.


This is just looney... you can *say* this, but that doesn't make it true.

Most of us have no problems with
the pres speaking to the kids but the way it has been done is like
something from North Korea and shows how completely incompetant this
administration is.


Apparently it was ok when Reagan talked about his tax-cut proposals to kids
and when Bush the First asked kids to write him with how they could help
him.

But, it's not ok when Obama does this.

Quite frankly, the Obama admin seems to be composed of total morons.


Compared to what? Bush II?

There is no possible way that anybody with any intelligence would
allow these people to get anywhere near their health care. It would
not matter if 99% of voters voted for Obama and still supported him,
the other 1% should use any means necessary to prevent their lives
being put in danger by having morons running health care. You do not
allow the inmates of an asylum to run around with loaded guns no
matter how they vote.


Over 70% of the voting public is in favor of a public option, which despite
your attempt to make a competitive option sound like a gov't takeover of US
healthcare, isn't. So, what you're saying is that 70% of the voting public
has no intelligence. Quite a statement.


Statements coming from the right don't have to be true.

They just have to stir up some emotion that's sitting deep inside
these sore losers and bigots.

Frogwatch September 6th 09 12:19 AM

Don't follow our example
 
On Sep 5, 5:07*pm, jps wrote:
On Sat, 5 Sep 2009 13:42:59 -0700, "nom=de=plume"



wrote:
"Frogwatch" wrote in message
....
Are you a birther or a bircher? It's hard to figure it out from your
diatribe. I guess it was ok for Reagan and both Bushs to talk to kids, as
they were Republicans.


--
Nom=de=Plume


Reagan and Bush's depts of ed did not issue soviet-like directives
about their speeches. *They also did not issue north korean-like
presidential worship lesson plans.


This is just looney... you can *say* this, but that doesn't make it true..


Most of us have no problems with
the pres speaking to the kids but the way it has been done is like
something from North Korea and shows how completely incompetant this
administration is.


Apparently it was ok when Reagan talked about his tax-cut proposals to kids
and when Bush the First asked kids to write him with how they could help
him.


But, it's not ok when Obama does this.


Quite frankly, the Obama admin seems to be composed of total morons.


Compared to what? Bush II?


There is no possible way that anybody with any intelligence would
allow these people to get anywhere near their health care. *It would
not matter if 99% of voters voted for Obama and still supported him,
the other 1% should use any means necessary to prevent their lives
being put in danger by having morons running health care. *You do not
allow the inmates of an asylum to run around with loaded guns no
matter how they vote.


Over 70% of the voting public is in favor of a public option, which despite
your attempt to make a competitive option sound like a gov't takeover of US
healthcare, isn't. So, what you're saying is that 70% of the voting public
has no intelligence. Quite a statement.


Statements coming from the right don't have to be true. *

They just have to stir up some emotion that's sitting deep inside
these sore losers and bigots.


Except for running for office, Obama's entire life has been a complete
failure. Getting a law degree, no big deal, that is for slightly
motivated people who simply are not smart enough to do science,
engineering or run a business.
Before running for office, he ran the Chicago Annenberg Challenge and
was a total failure. He was a failure as a senator and as a
president.
Teaching a college class does not mean anything about high school
education. BTW, my brother and sister were editors of Law review at
FSU and Uof F and both say it is a role for suckers that looks good on
a resume but is otherwise meaningless.
His entire approach to this speech has been clueless in the extreme.
The Soviet-like directive to school systems that seem guaranteed to
cause problems and the worshipful lesson plans were done so badly as
to make one wonder about his sanity and intelligence. However, I do
not wonder, it is plain to me that he is simply stupid. Bush was a
genius by comparison. Bozoma cannot get anything done even though his
party controls both houses of congress while Bush got most of what he
wanted even when the Dems controlled both houses. Oboma is simply
stupid and has surrounded himself by people are more so.

H the K[_2_] September 6th 09 12:23 AM

Don't follow our example
 
Frogwatch wrote:

Except for running for office, Obama's entire life has been a complete
failure. Getting a law degree, no big deal, that is for slightly
motivated people who simply are not smart enough to do science,
engineering or run a business.


Well, now you are devolving down into moron status. Good work.

--
Birther-Deather-Tenther-Teabagger:
Idiots All

Vic Smith September 6th 09 01:15 AM

Don't follow our example
 
On Sat, 5 Sep 2009 16:19:07 -0700 (PDT), Frogwatch
wrote:



Except for running for office, Obama's entire life has been a complete
failure.


Right.
POTUS.
A failed life.
Sure.
Get over your jealousy.
You know, if you take care of yourself, who's prez don't matter.
Just work around it, taking advantage when you can.
Did you get some of that cash-for-clunkers gravy?
How about some of that BOA or Ford stock?
You can short what you think will go down.
The Wall Street casino is alive and kicking.
Maybe do some real estate speculation.
Work your business into defense contracts, or healthcare.
Take some personal responsibility. Use your imagination.
Blaming your shortcomings on Obama won't work any better than blaming
them on Bush.
Crybabys don't go far in life.
Okay, no more preaching.
Hey, I'm going to Florida next week. Gonna be fun.
Fishing. No caving.

--Vic





nom=de=plume September 6th 09 01:17 AM

Don't follow our example
 
"Frogwatch" wrote in message
...
Except for running for office, Obama's entire life has been a complete
failure.


snip

You should be so fortunate to be such a "failure." We all should.

--
Nom=de=Plume



D 2[_4_] September 6th 09 01:30 AM

Don't follow our example
 
jps wrote:
On Sat, 05 Sep 2009 16:06:45 -0400, Keith Nuttle
wrote:

jps wrote:
On Sat, 5 Sep 2009 11:31:17 -0700 (PDT), Frogwatch
wrote:

I am trying to figure out what Obama could possibly say to
schoolchildren when he seems to have no qualifications on education.
Do you think you would feel qualified as an educator if you'd been
employed for several years as a professor of constitutional law?

Are you still popping your wife's pain meds?

Was obama a professor of Constitutional law?

From his actions he and biden appear to have no knowledge that the US
Constitution exist.


We're not talking about Biden.

The specific complaint was the he has no basis for addressing school
children since he has qualifications as a teacher.

Do you something to refute my assertion that he has every
qualification to think of himself as a teacher as a result of having
been paid as a professor or constitutional law at a university?

Besides that, he's the leader of our country.

The problem here is that some folks can't get over that there's a
black man in the White House and some folks are just sour grapes
losers who can't get over the fact that their party is woefully out of
power.

Bigots and sore losers. What a team.


So he can't be criticized for his failures because he's 1/2 black? You
must be joking.

D 2[_4_] September 6th 09 01:31 AM

Don't follow our example
 
jps wrote:
On Sat, 5 Sep 2009 13:54:19 -0700, "nom=de=plume"
wrote:

"John H." wrote in message
...
I am trying to figure out what Obama could possibly say to
schoolchildren when he seems to have no qualifications on education.
Do you think you would feel qualified as an educator if you'd been
employed for several years as a professor of constitutional law?

Are you still popping your wife's pain meds?
A professor of constitutional law is in no way qualified to teach K-12
in the Virginia public schools, and I doubt if he would be qualified
in any other state. Of course, Chicago would probably hire him.

I guess you've never had the opportunity to have a guest lecturer on campus.

Is teaching what he's doing or is he giving a talk about why education is
important? Ummm... let's see.

Nice strawman though.

I would have no problems with him providing any university with a
lesson plan and a televised speech.

Neither would I. What's your point?


Herring doesn't have points, other than talking.


Like Obama???

Frogwatch September 6th 09 02:21 AM

Don't follow our example
 
On Sep 5, 8:15*pm, Vic Smith wrote:
On Sat, 5 Sep 2009 16:19:07 -0700 (PDT), Frogwatch

wrote:

Except for running for office, Obama's entire life has been a complete
failure.


Right.
POTUS.
A failed life.
Sure.
Get over your jealousy.
You know, if you take care of yourself, who's prez don't matter.
Just work around it, taking advantage when you can.
Did you get some of that cash-for-clunkers gravy?
How about some of that BOA or Ford stock?
You can short what you think will go down.
The Wall Street casino is alive and kicking.
Maybe do some real estate speculation.
Work your business into defense contracts, or healthcare.
Take some personal responsibility. *Use your imagination.
Blaming your shortcomings on Obama won't work any better than blaming
them on Bush.
Crybabys don't go far in life.
Okay, no more preaching.
Hey, I'm going to Florida next week. *Gonna be fun.
Fishing. *No caving.

--Vic


Water is too high for caving around here right now. Still kinda hot
but not too bad. Where you gonna fish?

Frogwatch September 6th 09 02:33 AM

Don't follow our example
 
On Sep 5, 9:21*pm, Frogwatch wrote:
On Sep 5, 8:15*pm, Vic Smith wrote:



On Sat, 5 Sep 2009 16:19:07 -0700 (PDT), Frogwatch


wrote:


Except for running for office, Obama's entire life has been a complete
failure.


Right.
POTUS.
A failed life.
Sure.
Get over your jealousy.
You know, if you take care of yourself, who's prez don't matter.
Just work around it, taking advantage when you can.
Did you get some of that cash-for-clunkers gravy?
How about some of that BOA or Ford stock?
You can short what you think will go down.
The Wall Street casino is alive and kicking.
Maybe do some real estate speculation.
Work your business into defense contracts, or healthcare.
Take some personal responsibility. *Use your imagination.
Blaming your shortcomings on Obama won't work any better than blaming
them on Bush.
Crybabys don't go far in life.
Okay, no more preaching.
Hey, I'm going to Florida next week. *Gonna be fun.
Fishing. *No caving.


--Vic


Water is too high for caving around here right now. *Still kinda hot
but not too bad. *Where you gonna fish?


Hey Vic: If you get up this way, I'll take you out on the Tolman and
you can teach me how to fish.

Vic Smith September 6th 09 03:35 AM

Don't follow our example
 
On Sat, 5 Sep 2009 18:33:15 -0700 (PDT), Frogwatch
wrote:



Hey Vic: If you get up this way, I'll take you out on the Tolman and
you can teach me how to fish.


How about you and the wife coming down to Punta Gorda for a day or
two. There's an extra bedroom/bath in the condo and my wife's a good
cook. Professional cook.
We can do some fishing out back in the canal, and take a trip on this:
http://www.capttonys.com/prices.html
I'm going to be down there from the 16th to the 2nd.
We can play it by ear.
Only other thing I'm planning is a couple days in the Keys.
You don't need a fishing license for the head boat, but I'm getting
one anyway for any other fishing I do down there.
Nothing to fishing the way I do it. Put some shrimp or squid on the
hook and toss it out. Repeat as necessary. Can't make it like work.
I'll have extra rods/reels, but for the head boat I'll use their gear.
It's usually heavy enough to horse anything in.

--Vic

John H.[_9_] September 6th 09 12:21 PM

Don't follow our example
 
On Sat, 05 Sep 2009 20:31:25 -0400, D 2 wrote:

jps wrote:
On Sat, 5 Sep 2009 13:54:19 -0700, "nom=de=plume"
wrote:

"John H." wrote in message
...
I am trying to figure out what Obama could possibly say to
schoolchildren when he seems to have no qualifications on education.
Do you think you would feel qualified as an educator if you'd been
employed for several years as a professor of constitutional law?

Are you still popping your wife's pain meds?
A professor of constitutional law is in no way qualified to teach K-12
in the Virginia public schools, and I doubt if he would be qualified
in any other state. Of course, Chicago would probably hire him.
I guess you've never had the opportunity to have a guest lecturer on campus.

Is teaching what he's doing or is he giving a talk about why education is
important? Ummm... let's see.

Nice strawman though.

I would have no problems with him providing any university with a
lesson plan and a televised speech.
Neither would I. What's your point?


Herring doesn't have points, other than talking.


Like Obama???


No. I quit smoking. And I'm not half anything.
--
John H

All decisions, even those made by liberals, are the result of binary thinking.

Keith nuttle September 6th 09 01:02 PM

Don't follow our example
 
jps wrote:
On Sat, 5 Sep 2009 13:10:27 -0700 (PDT), Frogwatch
wrote:

On Sep 5, 3:38 pm, "nom=de=plume" wrote:
"Frogwatch" wrote in message

...

I am trying to figure out what Obama could possibly say to
schoolchildren when he seems to have no qualifications on education.
Yeah! He only taught Constitutional law. Nothing to do with education there.

snip

The "Let's Worship Obama" lesson plan would not produce admiration
from kids in High School, it would produce contempt. Their failure to
recognize this places them so far out from reality as to clearly
illustrate their incompetance. I can guarantee that after doing this
worshipful worksheet, high school kids are going to go out and burn as
much gas as they can just to rebel against stupidity.
High School kids are going to listen to him and do this BS work and
then think "Somewhere in Kenya a village is missing it's idiot". I
have no problem with this as it will cause these kids to vote against
liberal stupidity when they turn 18 but it does show that the USA is
in real trouble right now.
Are you a birther or a bircher? It's hard to figure it out from your
diatribe. I guess it was ok for Reagan and both Bushs to talk to kids, as
they were Republicans.

--
Nom=de=Plume

Reagan and Bush's depts of ed did not issue soviet-like directives
about their speeches.


According to you, internationally recognized authority on propaganda.

Truth is, each of the Republican presidents used the pulpit to forward
their agendas with school children.

Some of us were adult enough to hold our noses and let the kids hear
what they had to say.

The infantile response of the "conservative" base is mind blowing.

Grow up and get over the fact that your party is in shambles and has
lost control of the country. And thank God it's in smarter hands.

If you will read the news in the real world the Republican party is not
in shambles that it is suppose in the virtual world. The last I heard
there are at least 23 seats that will be transfered to the Republican
party in 2010. Many analyst are predicting that the Republican party
will take control of both houses. Historically the out party has
replaced the in party after presidential election of a new President.

jps September 8th 09 12:42 AM

Don't follow our example
 
On Sat, 5 Sep 2009 16:19:07 -0700 (PDT), Frogwatch
wrote:

On Sep 5, 5:07*pm, jps wrote:
On Sat, 5 Sep 2009 13:42:59 -0700, "nom=de=plume"



wrote:
"Frogwatch" wrote in message
...
Are you a birther or a bircher? It's hard to figure it out from your
diatribe. I guess it was ok for Reagan and both Bushs to talk to kids, as
they were Republicans.


--
Nom=de=Plume


Reagan and Bush's depts of ed did not issue soviet-like directives
about their speeches. *They also did not issue north korean-like
presidential worship lesson plans.


This is just looney... you can *say* this, but that doesn't make it true.


Most of us have no problems with
the pres speaking to the kids but the way it has been done is like
something from North Korea and shows how completely incompetant this
administration is.


Apparently it was ok when Reagan talked about his tax-cut proposals to kids
and when Bush the First asked kids to write him with how they could help
him.


But, it's not ok when Obama does this.


Quite frankly, the Obama admin seems to be composed of total morons.


Compared to what? Bush II?


There is no possible way that anybody with any intelligence would
allow these people to get anywhere near their health care. *It would
not matter if 99% of voters voted for Obama and still supported him,
the other 1% should use any means necessary to prevent their lives
being put in danger by having morons running health care. *You do not
allow the inmates of an asylum to run around with loaded guns no
matter how they vote.


Over 70% of the voting public is in favor of a public option, which despite
your attempt to make a competitive option sound like a gov't takeover of US
healthcare, isn't. So, what you're saying is that 70% of the voting public
has no intelligence. Quite a statement.


Statements coming from the right don't have to be true. *

They just have to stir up some emotion that's sitting deep inside
these sore losers and bigots.


Except for running for office, Obama's entire life has been a complete
failure.


You could disuade anyone from taking you seriously with these stupid
statements.

His law degree is from among the top schools in the country, having
also been elected to head the most prestigious higher ed publication
about the law.

He's now the President of the United States, leader of the free world
and likely the most influential person in the world. If he did not
another thing in his life, he'd be considered wildly successful.

Oh, don't forget about the two bestselling books.

I don't understand how you can be so dense, but you've successfully
proven it's possible.

jps September 8th 09 12:44 AM

Don't follow our example
 
On Sat, 5 Sep 2009 18:33:15 -0700 (PDT), Frogwatch
wrote:

On Sep 5, 9:21*pm, Frogwatch wrote:
On Sep 5, 8:15*pm, Vic Smith wrote:



On Sat, 5 Sep 2009 16:19:07 -0700 (PDT), Frogwatch


wrote:


Except for running for office, Obama's entire life has been a complete
failure.


Right.
POTUS.
A failed life.
Sure.
Get over your jealousy.
You know, if you take care of yourself, who's prez don't matter.
Just work around it, taking advantage when you can.
Did you get some of that cash-for-clunkers gravy?
How about some of that BOA or Ford stock?
You can short what you think will go down.
The Wall Street casino is alive and kicking.
Maybe do some real estate speculation.
Work your business into defense contracts, or healthcare.
Take some personal responsibility. *Use your imagination.
Blaming your shortcomings on Obama won't work any better than blaming
them on Bush.
Crybabys don't go far in life.
Okay, no more preaching.
Hey, I'm going to Florida next week. *Gonna be fun.
Fishing. *No caving.


--Vic


Water is too high for caving around here right now. *Still kinda hot
but not too bad. *Where you gonna fish?


Hey Vic: If you get up this way, I'll take you out on the Tolman and
you can teach me how to fish.


It'd be a better investment if he taught you how to think.

jps September 8th 09 12:47 AM

Don't follow our example
 
On Sat, 5 Sep 2009 13:52:15 -0700, "nom=de=plume"
wrote:

"Frogwatch" wrote in message
...
As I have pointed out, the only thing Obama has consistently done is
to fail. Do you truly want such an abject failure trying to motivate
your kids?



Yeah, I guess getting elected president is a failure. I guess getting
elected to the Senate is a failure. I guess graduating from Columbia and
Harvard, and him being the head of president of the Harvard Law Review are
all failures!

Please give us some comparison to your own life or that of someone else you
admire. I'd like to be sure I understand your comment.


I'm hearing crickets. Clearly can't back up these idiotic statements.
Is he trolling or really that dense?

nom=de=plume September 8th 09 01:53 AM

Don't follow our example
 
"jps" wrote in message
...
He's now the President of the United States, leader of the free world
and likely the most influential person in the world. If he did not
another thing in his life, he'd be considered wildly successful.


Not a chance! That would be Michael Jackson. lol

--
Nom=de=Plume




All times are GMT +1. The time now is 06:22 PM.

Powered by vBulletin® Copyright ©2000 - 2025, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Copyright ©2004 - 2014 BoatBanter.com