On Sat, 05 Sep 2009 12:56:06 -0400, NotNow wrote:

JustWait wrote:
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says...
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says...
John H. wrote:
On Fri, 04 Sep 2009 08:48:23 -0400, NotNow wrote:

John H. wrote:
On Wed, 2 Sep 2009 22:35:01 -0400, JustWait
wrote:

In article ,
says...
On Wed, 02 Sep 2009 14:56:14 -0700, jps wrote:

On Wed, 2 Sep 2009 14:40:56 -0700 (PDT), Frogwatch
wrote:

On Sep 2, 5:34 pm, John H. wrote:
On Wed, 02 Sep 2009 13:26:40 -0700, jps wrote:
On Wed, 2 Sep 2009 14:07:31 -0600, "SteveB"
wrote:
"nom=de=plume" wrote in message
...
"SteveB" wrote in message
...
September 8, Obama will be piped into all public schools for a speech.
Probably about how to snitch on their parents.
This is scary. This is sick.
Steve
Is he going to read "My Pet Goat"? If so, I'm pulling my kid that day!
--
Nom=de=Plume
I believe there will be a mention of "Sally has two Moms" and other liberal
literature. Reading for educational purposes, you know.
We shall only know what he will say after he says it. I hope he does a
decent job with the teleprompters, and the kids don't start saying uh and er
after every other word. Perhaps I was premature in thinking that he will
concentrate only on education, and that there will be no political
expressions, either stated or subliminal.
Steve
Silly dweeb didn't mention a word when Bush was mangling the English
language beyond recognition.
Cracker jerk from the Utah bush.
Another fine example of the 'Bush Rationale'.

nomdeplume - hope you're watching..
--
John H

All decisions, even those made by liberals, are the result of binary thinking.
The president has no more right to interrupt classroom education than
I do. Those of you who think he does should go back and re-read the
constitution because you seem so enamored of authority you are willing
to fall for anything. School districts are totally free to ignore him
and I say they should unless he can show that his address is somehow
related to education and is not for political purposes..
Boo!

The Boogeyman is comin' to getcha!!!

Would you have said the same for Bush if he were asking to address
your kids on the merits of duck and cover?
More 'Bush Rationale'.

nomdeplum - you watching this?
Anyway, what day is the Obama stump speech? Might just take The Mouse to
the track for some work that day...
Take her to the track on the 8th. That's the BO school kid
indoctrination speech. Happens at 11 am, eastern. If Jesse's lucky,
she'll be at lunch where their are no TV's.
--
John H

This **** is getting so unhinged it's almost funny! Obama wants to give
a speech to students reinforcing such things as hard work, staying in
school, doing your best, and you call it an indoctrination speech. In
1988 Reagan did the same thing, only his speech was 100% political. Then
in I think 1992, George HW Bush did the same as Reagan. Where was the
outcry about indoctrination then? This liberal = bad thing isn't doing
much good for your credibility, John.
Supposedly his speech will be revealed next week. We'll see how much
indoctrination is therein.

Having students write a letter about 'How I can help president 'bama'
*is* indoctrination.
--
John H

Uh, John, your GOP gurus have lied to you once again!!!!! That was
changed a long time ago.
So, did they lie, or did the openness of the content get it changed?

No, they lied. They were telling lies before they ever knew the content
of said speech.

It clearly is a letter to themselves about
their educational goals. It's just that you guys, in your insanity over
anything liberal, can't grasp that little fact.:
And do you really believe teachers won't send the letters anyway? With
kids names and schools?? Remember "flag@whitehouse......."? Fact is,
detractors got listed and sent e-mails, but of course all investigation
on that has been stopped too, the Whitehouse is required to keep all
info coming in.
Black helicopter, see it? Gee, you didn't seem to say anything about
Reagan and GHWB doing the same thing, and as a matter of fact, while
Obama wants to address students about things like staying in school,
working hard, etc. Reagan was pushing his political agenda....

But, as with cussing, I'm sure it's okay with you that conservatives did
that, but a liberal can't address students about staying in school.....
PRESIDENT/STUDENT SPEECH FLAP-It seems innocuous enough. The President
was going to kick off the unofficial start of the school year with a
speech to the nation?s students, encouraging them to do their best. But
an unexpected crush of criticism from parents, conservatives, and
talk-radio seems to have turned this into one big headache. It certainly
wasn?t anticipated-Jack Tapper, filing for WORLD NEWS, notes that ?White
House officials seem to have been caught completely flat-footed on
this?. And it seems local school districts who are hearing from angry
constituents are reacting-Tapper notes that ?some school districts in
Texas, Illinois, Virginia and Wisconsin are even refusing to show the
President?s address.? What?s got everybody so riled up? Tapper again:
?What seems to be drawing the most ire are these optional preparatory
materials from the Department of Education asking students to ?write
letters to themselves about what they can do to help the
President??.that has now been changed for students to ?write letters to
themselves about how they can achieve their short-term and long-term
educational goals.? White House deputy policy director Heather
Higginbottom told Tapper that the ?goal of the speech is to encourage
students to set goals for themselves?. The Administration is trying to
lower the 30% drop-out rate in this country, Higginbottom added. So how
did this get so politicized? Tapper notes that ?President George HW Bush
(spoke to students) in 1991 and Ronald Reagan even talked politics with
students in 1988.? But this is different, at least to some folks. Tapper
sez that ?charges from Republican officials that President Obama is
seeking to indoctrinate students-unsupported by any real evidence-have
been flying.? But regardless of proof, the howl of protest is not going
to be ignored by the White House. Tapper noted in his close that ?the
White House will release a text of the speech on Monday?so parents can
see it as benign, about staying in school and personal responsibility.?

I will bet you my boat against yours that teachers will be sending these
letters to the Messiah, and they will be used as political props just
like the little girl who got "randomly" called on at an Obama town hall,
only to complain about the "mean" anti reform care bill, and only to be
found to be the child of the top fund raiser for Obama in the area..
snerk

That's a bet!! Now remember, you have to prove all of the above,
including the child of a top fund raiser.

Here is my proof about the child prop, er, uh, "Astroturf"...

http://michellemalkin.com/2009/08/11...town-hall-has-
not-so-random-political-connections/

http://pumabydesign001.wordpress.com...e-little-girl-
as-a-plant-at-town-hall-mtg/

http://mommylife.net/archives/2009/0...town_hall.html

Ok, bookmark this one... and we will wait for someone in the admin to
read one of the letters... snerk


Pssssst, you have proof of absolutely NOTHING because the event hasn't
even happened yet.

That's why he told you to bookmark it, Loogy.

(holy ****)
--
John H

All decisions, even those made by liberals, are the result of binary thinking.

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says...

JustWait wrote:
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says...
JustWait wrote:
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says...
JustWait wrote:
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says...
John H. wrote:
On Fri, 04 Sep 2009 08:48:23 -0400, NotNow wrote:

John H. wrote:
On Wed, 2 Sep 2009 22:35:01 -0400, JustWait
wrote:

In article ,
says...
On Wed, 02 Sep 2009 14:56:14 -0700, jps wrote:

On Wed, 2 Sep 2009 14:40:56 -0700 (PDT), Frogwatch
wrote:

On Sep 2, 5:34 pm, John H. wrote:
On Wed, 02 Sep 2009 13:26:40 -0700, jps wrote:
On Wed, 2 Sep 2009 14:07:31 -0600, "SteveB"
wrote:
"nom=de=plume" wrote in message
...
"SteveB" wrote in message
...
September 8, Obama will be piped into all public schools for a speech.
Probably about how to snitch on their parents.
This is scary. This is sick.
Steve
Is he going to read "My Pet Goat"? If so, I'm pulling my kid that day!
--
Nom=de=Plume
I believe there will be a mention of "Sally has two Moms" and other liberal
literature. Reading for educational purposes, you know.
We shall only know what he will say after he says it. I hope he does a
decent job with the teleprompters, and the kids don't start saying uh and er
after every other word. Perhaps I was premature in thinking that he will
concentrate only on education, and that there will be no political
expressions, either stated or subliminal.
Steve
Silly dweeb didn't mention a word when Bush was mangling the English
language beyond recognition.
Cracker jerk from the Utah bush.
Another fine example of the 'Bush Rationale'.

nomdeplume - hope you're watching..
--
John H

All decisions, even those made by liberals, are the result of binary thinking.
The president has no more right to interrupt classroom education than
I do. Those of you who think he does should go back and re-read the
constitution because you seem so enamored of authority you are willing
to fall for anything. School districts are totally free to ignore him
and I say they should unless he can show that his address is somehow
related to education and is not for political purposes..
Boo!

The Boogeyman is comin' to getcha!!!

Would you have said the same for Bush if he were asking to address
your kids on the merits of duck and cover?
More 'Bush Rationale'.

nomdeplum - you watching this?
Anyway, what day is the Obama stump speech? Might just take The Mouse to
the track for some work that day...
Take her to the track on the 8th. That's the BO school kid
indoctrination speech. Happens at 11 am, eastern. If Jesse's lucky,
she'll be at lunch where their are no TV's.
--
John H

This **** is getting so unhinged it's almost funny! Obama wants to give
a speech to students reinforcing such things as hard work, staying in
school, doing your best, and you call it an indoctrination speech. In
1988 Reagan did the same thing, only his speech was 100% political. Then
in I think 1992, George HW Bush did the same as Reagan. Where was the
outcry about indoctrination then? This liberal = bad thing isn't doing
much good for your credibility, John.
Supposedly his speech will be revealed next week. We'll see how much
indoctrination is therein.

Having students write a letter about 'How I can help president 'bama'
*is* indoctrination.
--
John H

Uh, John, your GOP gurus have lied to you once again!!!!! That was
changed a long time ago.
So, did they lie, or did the openness of the content get it changed?

No, they lied. They were telling lies before they ever knew the content
of said speech.

It clearly is a letter to themselves about
their educational goals. It's just that you guys, in your insanity over
anything liberal, can't grasp that little fact.:
And do you really believe teachers won't send the letters anyway? With
kids names and schools?? Remember "flag@whitehouse......."? Fact is,
detractors got listed and sent e-mails, but of course all investigation
on that has been stopped too, the Whitehouse is required to keep all
info coming in.
Black helicopter, see it? Gee, you didn't seem to say anything about
Reagan and GHWB doing the same thing, and as a matter of fact, while
Obama wants to address students about things like staying in school,
working hard, etc. Reagan was pushing his political agenda....

But, as with cussing, I'm sure it's okay with you that conservatives did
that, but a liberal can't address students about staying in school.....
PRESIDENT/STUDENT SPEECH FLAP-It seems innocuous enough. The President
was going to kick off the unofficial start of the school year with a
speech to the nation?s students, encouraging them to do their best. But
an unexpected crush of criticism from parents, conservatives, and
talk-radio seems to have turned this into one big headache. It certainly
wasn?t anticipated-Jack Tapper, filing for WORLD NEWS, notes that ?White
House officials seem to have been caught completely flat-footed on
this?. And it seems local school districts who are hearing from angry
constituents are reacting-Tapper notes that ?some school districts in
Texas, Illinois, Virginia and Wisconsin are even refusing to show the
President?s address.? What?s got everybody so riled up? Tapper again:
?What seems to be drawing the most ire are these optional preparatory
materials from the Department of Education asking students to ?write
letters to themselves about what they can do to help the
President??.that has now been changed for students to ?write letters to
themselves about how they can achieve their short-term and long-term
educational goals.? White House deputy policy director Heather
Higginbottom told Tapper that the ?goal of the speech is to encourage
students to set goals for themselves?. The Administration is trying to
lower the 30% drop-out rate in this country, Higginbottom added. So how
did this get so politicized? Tapper notes that ?President George HW Bush
(spoke to students) in 1991 and Ronald Reagan even talked politics with
students in 1988.? But this is different, at least to some folks. Tapper
sez that ?charges from Republican officials that President Obama is
seeking to indoctrinate students-unsupported by any real evidence-have
been flying.? But regardless of proof, the howl of protest is not going
to be ignored by the White House. Tapper noted in his close that ?the
White House will release a text of the speech on Monday?so parents can
see it as benign, about staying in school and personal responsibility.?

I will bet you my boat against yours that teachers will be sending these
letters to the Messiah, and they will be used as political props just
like the little girl who got "randomly" called on at an Obama town hall,
only to complain about the "mean" anti reform care bill, and only to be
found to be the child of the top fund raiser for Obama in the area..
snerk

That's a bet!! Now remember, you have to prove all of the above,
including the child of a top fund raiser.

Here is my proof about the child prop, er, uh, "Astroturf"...

http://michellemalkin.com/2009/08/11...town-hall-has-
not-so-random-political-connections/

http://pumabydesign001.wordpress.com...e-little-girl-
as-a-plant-at-town-hall-mtg/

http://mommylife.net/archives/2009/0...town_hall.html

Ok, bookmark this one... and we will wait for someone in the admin to
read one of the letters... snerk


Pssssst, you have proof of absolutely NOTHING because the event hasn't
even happened yet.

What? I just gave you proof of what I said. I said:

snip
just
like the little girl who got "randomly" called on at an Obama town
hall,
only to complain about the "mean" anti reform care bill, and only to
be
found to be the child of the top fund raiser for Obama in the area..
snip

And then I showed three seperate articles, how hard is that??? Why can't
you seem to follow the conversation.. It is clear, I said something, you
told me to prove it, I did... I just don't get it.

--
Wafa free since 2009

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says...

On Sat, 05 Sep 2009 12:56:06 -0400, NotNow wrote:

JustWait wrote:
In article ,
says...
JustWait wrote:
In article ,
says...
JustWait wrote:
In article ,
says...
John H. wrote:
On Fri, 04 Sep 2009 08:48:23 -0400, NotNow wrote:

John H. wrote:
On Wed, 2 Sep 2009 22:35:01 -0400, JustWait
wrote:

In article ,
says...
On Wed, 02 Sep 2009 14:56:14 -0700, jps wrote:

On Wed, 2 Sep 2009 14:40:56 -0700 (PDT), Frogwatch
wrote:

On Sep 2, 5:34 pm, John H. wrote:
On Wed, 02 Sep 2009 13:26:40 -0700, jps wrote:
On Wed, 2 Sep 2009 14:07:31 -0600, "SteveB"
wrote:
"nom=de=plume" wrote in message
...
"SteveB" wrote in message
...
September 8, Obama will be piped into all public schools for a speech.
Probably about how to snitch on their parents.
This is scary. This is sick.
Steve
Is he going to read "My Pet Goat"? If so, I'm pulling my kid that day!
--
Nom=de=Plume
I believe there will be a mention of "Sally has two Moms" and other liberal
literature. Reading for educational purposes, you know.
We shall only know what he will say after he says it. I hope he does a
decent job with the teleprompters, and the kids don't start saying uh and er
after every other word. Perhaps I was premature in thinking that he will
concentrate only on education, and that there will be no political
expressions, either stated or subliminal.
Steve
Silly dweeb didn't mention a word when Bush was mangling the English
language beyond recognition.
Cracker jerk from the Utah bush.
Another fine example of the 'Bush Rationale'.

nomdeplume - hope you're watching..
--
John H

All decisions, even those made by liberals, are the result of binary thinking.
The president has no more right to interrupt classroom education than
I do. Those of you who think he does should go back and re-read the
constitution because you seem so enamored of authority you are willing
to fall for anything. School districts are totally free to ignore him
and I say they should unless he can show that his address is somehow
related to education and is not for political purposes..
Boo!

The Boogeyman is comin' to getcha!!!

Would you have said the same for Bush if he were asking to address
your kids on the merits of duck and cover?
More 'Bush Rationale'.

nomdeplum - you watching this?
Anyway, what day is the Obama stump speech? Might just take The Mouse to
the track for some work that day...
Take her to the track on the 8th. That's the BO school kid
indoctrination speech. Happens at 11 am, eastern. If Jesse's lucky,
she'll be at lunch where their are no TV's.
--
John H

This **** is getting so unhinged it's almost funny! Obama wants to give
a speech to students reinforcing such things as hard work, staying in
school, doing your best, and you call it an indoctrination speech. In
1988 Reagan did the same thing, only his speech was 100% political. Then
in I think 1992, George HW Bush did the same as Reagan. Where was the
outcry about indoctrination then? This liberal = bad thing isn't doing
much good for your credibility, John.
Supposedly his speech will be revealed next week. We'll see how much
indoctrination is therein.

Having students write a letter about 'How I can help president 'bama'
*is* indoctrination.
--
John H

Uh, John, your GOP gurus have lied to you once again!!!!! That was
changed a long time ago.
So, did they lie, or did the openness of the content get it changed?

No, they lied. They were telling lies before they ever knew the content
of said speech.

It clearly is a letter to themselves about
their educational goals. It's just that you guys, in your insanity over
anything liberal, can't grasp that little fact.:
And do you really believe teachers won't send the letters anyway? With
kids names and schools?? Remember "flag@whitehouse......."? Fact is,
detractors got listed and sent e-mails, but of course all investigation
on that has been stopped too, the Whitehouse is required to keep all
info coming in.
Black helicopter, see it? Gee, you didn't seem to say anything about
Reagan and GHWB doing the same thing, and as a matter of fact, while
Obama wants to address students about things like staying in school,
working hard, etc. Reagan was pushing his political agenda....

But, as with cussing, I'm sure it's okay with you that conservatives did
that, but a liberal can't address students about staying in school.....
PRESIDENT/STUDENT SPEECH FLAP-It seems innocuous enough. The President
was going to kick off the unofficial start of the school year with a
speech to the nation?s students, encouraging them to do their best. But
an unexpected crush of criticism from parents, conservatives, and
talk-radio seems to have turned this into one big headache. It certainly
wasn?t anticipated-Jack Tapper, filing for WORLD NEWS, notes that ?White
House officials seem to have been caught completely flat-footed on
this?. And it seems local school districts who are hearing from angry
constituents are reacting-Tapper notes that ?some school districts in
Texas, Illinois, Virginia and Wisconsin are even refusing to show the
President?s address.? What?s got everybody so riled up? Tapper again:
?What seems to be drawing the most ire are these optional preparatory
materials from the Department of Education asking students to ?write
letters to themselves about what they can do to help the
President??.that has now been changed for students to ?write letters to
themselves about how they can achieve their short-term and long-term
educational goals.? White House deputy policy director Heather
Higginbottom told Tapper that the ?goal of the speech is to encourage
students to set goals for themselves?. The Administration is trying to
lower the 30% drop-out rate in this country, Higginbottom added. So how
did this get so politicized? Tapper notes that ?President George HW Bush
(spoke to students) in 1991 and Ronald Reagan even talked politics with
students in 1988.? But this is different, at least to some folks. Tapper
sez that ?charges from Republican officials that President Obama is
seeking to indoctrinate students-unsupported by any real evidence-have
been flying.? But regardless of proof, the howl of protest is not going
to be ignored by the White House. Tapper noted in his close that ?the
White House will release a text of the speech on Monday?so parents can
see it as benign, about staying in school and personal responsibility.?

I will bet you my boat against yours that teachers will be sending these
letters to the Messiah, and they will be used as political props just
like the little girl who got "randomly" called on at an Obama town hall,
only to complain about the "mean" anti reform care bill, and only to be
found to be the child of the top fund raiser for Obama in the area..
snerk

That's a bet!! Now remember, you have to prove all of the above,
including the child of a top fund raiser.

Here is my proof about the child prop, er, uh, "Astroturf"...

http://michellemalkin.com/2009/08/11...town-hall-has-
not-so-random-political-connections/

http://pumabydesign001.wordpress.com...e-little-girl-
as-a-plant-at-town-hall-mtg/

http://mommylife.net/archives/2009/0...town_hall.html

Ok, bookmark this one... and we will wait for someone in the admin to
read one of the letters... snerk


Pssssst, you have proof of absolutely NOTHING because the event hasn't
even happened yet.

That's why he told you to bookmark it, Loogy.

(holy ****)

I think he is screwing with me now. It was a simple conversation to
follow...

--
Wafa free since 2009