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Tom Francis - SWSports wrote:
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/ar....html?ITO=1490 Next up - candle power as in real candles. :) To get the same output you will have to increase the number of bulbs or leave them on all of the time in both cases using more electricity. We tried to use the florescent bulbs but abandon them. You would come into the kitchen for a glass of milk and cookies. By the time you had drunk the milk and finished the cookies the florescent bulbs would be at their peak brightness, just in time to turn them off and go back to bed. Florescent bulbs are like the double flush toilets, that were legislated several years ago. They take less water but you have to flush them twice every time you use them to get them clean. |
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Keith Nuttle wrote:
Tom Francis - SWSports wrote: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/ar....html?ITO=1490 Next up - candle power as in real candles. :) To get the same output you will have to increase the number of bulbs or leave them on all of the time in both cases using more electricity. We tried to use the florescent bulbs but abandon them. You would come into the kitchen for a glass of milk and cookies. By the time you had drunk the milk and finished the cookies the florescent bulbs would be at their peak brightness, just in time to turn them off and go back to bed. Florescent bulbs are like the double flush toilets, that were legislated several years ago. They take less water but you have to flush them twice every time you use them to get them clean. Not if you buy a good one. And CFB's have come a long way. AND they last forever! |
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"JustWait" wrote in message
... In article , Not if you buy a good one. And CFB's have come a long way. AND they last forever! Yeah, just like the Mercury in the land fills.. Have you read about the area of China surrounding the plants where they make these things? Yet again, there are those pesky facts getting in the way. It takes much more mercury to make the standard light bulb than the is in the new ones. If you don't believe me, look it up. The new ones are a win-win for everything. -- Nom=de=Plume |
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On Sep 2, 1:44*pm, "nom=de=plume" wrote:
"JustWait" wrote in message ... In article , Not if you buy a good one. And CFB's have come a long way. AND they last forever! Yeah, just like the Mercury in the land fills.. Have you read about the area of China surrounding the plants where they make these things? Yet again, there are those pesky facts getting in the way. It takes much more mercury to make the standard light bulb than the is in the new ones. If you don't believe me, look it up. The new ones are a win-win for everything. -- Nom=de=Plume As usual, you're confused; that's completely false. Mercury is not used in the manufacturing of incandescent bulbs. There have been studies that suggest that using CFBs saves enough energy to offset the amount of mercury they contain... but that depends on ALL the energy being consumed as having been produced by coal-burning power plants. Burning coal releases mercury, so the power saved (and mercury not released) by using CFBs is supposed to offset the mercury content of the CFB. If some of your power comes from another source (nuclear, hydro) then this argument goes away. As the maximum saving is around 7%, it doesn't take much to wipe that away. |
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JustWait wrote:
In article , says... Keith Nuttle wrote: Tom Francis - SWSports wrote: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/ar....html?ITO=1490 Next up - candle power as in real candles. :) To get the same output you will have to increase the number of bulbs or leave them on all of the time in both cases using more electricity. We tried to use the florescent bulbs but abandon them. You would come into the kitchen for a glass of milk and cookies. By the time you had drunk the milk and finished the cookies the florescent bulbs would be at their peak brightness, just in time to turn them off and go back to bed. Florescent bulbs are like the double flush toilets, that were legislated several years ago. They take less water but you have to flush them twice every time you use them to get them clean. Not if you buy a good one. And CFB's have come a long way. AND they last forever! Yeah, just like the Mercury in the land fills.. Have you read about the area of China surrounding the plants where they make these things? Well, if their government gave a **** that wouldn't be a problem. There's been mercury in landfills from many sources for many years. |
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On Wed, 02 Sep 2009 08:11:22 -0400, Tom Francis - SWSports
wrote: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/ar....html?ITO=1490 Next up - candle power as in real candles. :) Whatever you do, don't use those damn compact flourescent bulbs in anything with a circuit board, timer, or dimmer switch. I found that out the hard way when the Casablanca guy came out to fix my fan. -- Calling an Illegal Alien an "Undocumented Worker" is like calling a Crack Dealer an "Unlicensed Pharmacist" John H |
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John H. wrote:
On Wed, 02 Sep 2009 08:11:22 -0400, Tom Francis - SWSports wrote: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/ar....html?ITO=1490 Next up - candle power as in real candles. :) Whatever you do, don't use those damn compact flourescent bulbs in anything with a circuit board, timer, or dimmer switch. I found that out the hard way when the Casablanca guy came out to fix my fan. -- You can use them just fine with a dimmer if you use dimmable CFBs. |
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"NotNow" wrote in message
... John H. wrote: On Wed, 02 Sep 2009 08:11:22 -0400, Tom Francis - SWSports wrote: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/ar....html?ITO=1490 Next up - candle power as in real candles. :) Whatever you do, don't use those damn compact flourescent bulbs in anything with a circuit board, timer, or dimmer switch. I found that out the hard way when the Casablanca guy came out to fix my fan. -- You can use them just fine with a dimmer if you use dimmable CFBs. Yup... got two myself... work fine. -- Nom=de=Plume |
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