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Tom Francis - SWSports September 2nd 09 01:11 PM

Worshipping at the altar of Gaia...
 
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/ar....html?ITO=1490

Next up - candle power as in real candles. :)

Keith nuttle September 2nd 09 03:28 PM

Worshipping at the altar of Gaia...
 
Tom Francis - SWSports wrote:
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/ar....html?ITO=1490

Next up - candle power as in real candles. :)


To get the same output you will have to increase the number of bulbs or
leave them on all of the time in both cases using more electricity. We
tried to use the florescent bulbs but abandon them. You would come into
the kitchen for a glass of milk and cookies. By the time you had drunk
the milk and finished the cookies the florescent bulbs would be at their
peak brightness, just in time to turn them off and go back to bed.

Florescent bulbs are like the double flush toilets, that were legislated
several years ago. They take less water but you have to flush them
twice every time you use them to get them clean.

John H.[_9_] September 2nd 09 06:16 PM

Worshipping at the altar of Gaia...
 
On Wed, 02 Sep 2009 08:11:22 -0400, Tom Francis - SWSports
wrote:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/ar....html?ITO=1490

Next up - candle power as in real candles. :)


Whatever you do, don't use those damn compact flourescent bulbs in
anything with a circuit board, timer, or dimmer switch. I found that
out the hard way when the Casablanca guy came out to fix my fan.
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Crack Dealer an "Unlicensed Pharmacist"

John H

NotNow[_3_] September 2nd 09 06:16 PM

Worshipping at the altar of Gaia...
 
Keith Nuttle wrote:
Tom Francis - SWSports wrote:
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/ar....html?ITO=1490


Next up - candle power as in real candles. :)


To get the same output you will have to increase the number of bulbs or
leave them on all of the time in both cases using more electricity. We
tried to use the florescent bulbs but abandon them. You would come into
the kitchen for a glass of milk and cookies. By the time you had drunk
the milk and finished the cookies the florescent bulbs would be at their
peak brightness, just in time to turn them off and go back to bed.

Florescent bulbs are like the double flush toilets, that were legislated
several years ago. They take less water but you have to flush them
twice every time you use them to get them clean.


Not if you buy a good one. And CFB's have come a long way. AND they last
forever!

NotNow[_3_] September 2nd 09 06:20 PM

Worshipping at the altar of Gaia...
 
John H. wrote:
On Wed, 02 Sep 2009 08:11:22 -0400, Tom Francis - SWSports
wrote:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/ar....html?ITO=1490

Next up - candle power as in real candles. :)


Whatever you do, don't use those damn compact flourescent bulbs in
anything with a circuit board, timer, or dimmer switch. I found that
out the hard way when the Casablanca guy came out to fix my fan.
--


You can use them just fine with a dimmer if you use dimmable CFBs.

JustWait September 2nd 09 06:28 PM

Worshipping at the altar of Gaia...
 
In article ,
says...

Keith Nuttle wrote:
Tom Francis - SWSports wrote:
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/ar....html?ITO=1490


Next up - candle power as in real candles. :)


To get the same output you will have to increase the number of bulbs or
leave them on all of the time in both cases using more electricity. We
tried to use the florescent bulbs but abandon them. You would come into
the kitchen for a glass of milk and cookies. By the time you had drunk
the milk and finished the cookies the florescent bulbs would be at their
peak brightness, just in time to turn them off and go back to bed.

Florescent bulbs are like the double flush toilets, that were legislated
several years ago. They take less water but you have to flush them
twice every time you use them to get them clean.


Not if you buy a good one. And CFB's have come a long way. AND they last
forever!


Yeah, just like the Mercury in the land fills.. Have you read about the
area of China surrounding the plants where they make these things?

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Wafa free since 2009

nom=de=plume September 2nd 09 06:44 PM

Worshipping at the altar of Gaia...
 
"JustWait" wrote in message
...
In article ,
Not if you buy a good one. And CFB's have come a long way. AND they last
forever!


Yeah, just like the Mercury in the land fills.. Have you read about the
area of China surrounding the plants where they make these things?



Yet again, there are those pesky facts getting in the way. It takes much
more mercury to make the standard light bulb than the is in the new ones. If
you don't believe me, look it up. The new ones are a win-win for everything.

--
Nom=de=Plume



nom=de=plume September 2nd 09 06:45 PM

Worshipping at the altar of Gaia...
 
"NotNow" wrote in message
...
John H. wrote:
On Wed, 02 Sep 2009 08:11:22 -0400, Tom Francis - SWSports
wrote:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/ar....html?ITO=1490

Next up - candle power as in real candles. :)


Whatever you do, don't use those damn compact flourescent bulbs in
anything with a circuit board, timer, or dimmer switch. I found that
out the hard way when the Casablanca guy came out to fix my fan.
--


You can use them just fine with a dimmer if you use dimmable CFBs.



Yup... got two myself... work fine.

--
Nom=de=Plume



Tim September 2nd 09 07:29 PM

Worshipping at the altar of Gaia...
 
On Sep 2, 12:45*pm, "nom=de=plume" wrote:
"NotNow" wrote in message

...

John H. wrote:
On Wed, 02 Sep 2009 08:11:22 -0400, Tom Francis - SWSports
wrote:


http://www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/ar...EL-HANLON-Maki....


Next up - candle power as in real candles. *:)


Whatever you do, don't use those damn compact flourescent bulbs in
anything with a circuit board, timer, or dimmer switch. I found that
out the hard way when the Casablanca guy came out to fix my fan.
--


You can use them just fine with a dimmer if you use dimmable CFBs.


Yup... got two myself... work fine.

--
Nom=de=Plume


I changed over to those things in my shop. Oh, they say you save
energy, but when you look at the price of them compared to regular
light bulbs there's much more expensive to buy. But then again,
changing out cheap light bulbs every time you turn around is no fun
either.

Speaking of. It seems that when I was a kid in the 60's changing out
incandescants was actually fairly rare. Now they dont last for spit.

H K September 2nd 09 07:34 PM

Worshipping at the altar of Gaia...
 
Tim wrote:
On Sep 2, 12:45 pm, "nom=de=plume" wrote:
"NotNow" wrote in message

...

John H. wrote:
On Wed, 02 Sep 2009 08:11:22 -0400, Tom Francis - SWSports
wrote:
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/ar...EL-HANLON-Maki...
Next up - candle power as in real candles. :)
Whatever you do, don't use those damn compact flourescent bulbs in
anything with a circuit board, timer, or dimmer switch. I found that
out the hard way when the Casablanca guy came out to fix my fan.
--
You can use them just fine with a dimmer if you use dimmable CFBs.

Yup... got two myself... work fine.

--
Nom=de=Plume


I changed over to those things in my shop. Oh, they say you save
energy, but when you look at the price of them compared to regular
light bulbs there's much more expensive to buy. But then again,
changing out cheap light bulbs every time you turn around is no fun
either.

Speaking of. It seems that when I was a kid in the 60's changing out
incandescants was actually fairly rare. Now they dont last for spit.



The power co-op out here in ruralville hands out these bulbs when they
come to replace your thermostats. I already had some in various
fixtures, including a pair of ceiling fans. Using them has been uneventful.


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