On Aug 31, 8:48*am, wrote:
On Mon, 31 Aug 2009 04:33:11 -0700 (PDT), wf3h
wrote:

On Aug 30, 11:01*pm, Frogwatch wrote:
We already knew that Democratic Govt types do not pay the taxes they
want us proles to pay. *Like Leona Helmsley, They know that taxes are
for "little people", not for Dems. *However, Charlie Rangel has re-
emphasized the point.
Do you really want people who refuse to pay the taxes the rest of us
have to pay to run health care?

guess froggie doesn't know that, under reagan, the rich had their
taxes reduced more than any other group in the US. the middle class
now pays about double the percentage rate of the rich.

So, you're telling us that it pays to be rich? *I'll buy that.


and if it doesn't pay, the rich will just take it from the middle
class. regardless they'll still be rich

On Aug 31, 9:16*am, wf3h wrote:
On Aug 31, 8:48*am, wrote:



On Mon, 31 Aug 2009 04:33:11 -0700 (PDT), wf3h
wrote:

On Aug 30, 11:01*pm, Frogwatch wrote:
We already knew that Democratic Govt types do not pay the taxes they
want us proles to pay. *Like Leona Helmsley, They know that taxes are
for "little people", not for Dems. *However, Charlie Rangel has re-
emphasized the point.
Do you really want people who refuse to pay the taxes the rest of us
have to pay to run health care?

guess froggie doesn't know that, under reagan, the rich had their
taxes reduced more than any other group in the US. the middle class
now pays about double the percentage rate of the rich.

So, you're telling us that it pays to be rich? *I'll buy that.

and if it doesn't pay, the rich will just take it from the middle
class. regardless they'll still be rich

Facts are facts, Obama has a history of appointing people who have not
paid their taxes. The reality is that the best way to get out of
paying taxes is to be a Democratic congressman. Obviously, only the
proles pay taxes, Dems do not.
Next, you can literally get away with murder if you are a Dem.
Kennedy did so. You can also get away with sexual assault. You can
also get away with wanting the little people to pay carbon taxes while
generating 300x as much carbon as the average American as does Gore.
While us proles have to drive clunkers, Pelosi et. al want to fly in
ultra-luxury private planes paid for by us proles. The Dems want to
give us proles substandard health care while they and the UAW get the
best of the best. You can get away with building bombs in your youth
that kill people and then become a distinguished prof just by having a
rich Dem daddy like Ayers. Yes. All animals are equal but some are
more equal than others.

On Aug 31, 10:07*am, Frogwatch wrote:
On Aug 31, 9:16*am, wf3h wrote:



and if it doesn't pay, the rich will just take it from the middle
class. regardless they'll still be rich

Facts are facts, Obama has a history of appointing people who have not
paid their taxes. *

and the bush folks just rewrite the laws so that they don't pay taxes
and that we do.

The reality is that the best way to get out of
paying taxes is to be a Democratic congressman.

or a rich GOP member

*Obviously, only the
proles pay taxes, Dems do not.
Next, you can literally get away with murder if you are a Dem.
Kennedy did so. *You can also get away with sexual assault.

of course if you're a republican you can toss american citizens in
jail with no due process, you can torture with no repercussions...all
in a day's work

*You can
also get away with wanting the little people to pay carbon taxes while
generating 300x as much carbon as the average American as does Gore.
While us proles have to drive clunkers, Pelosi et. al want to fly in
ultra-luxury private planes paid for by us proles. *The Dems want to
give us proles substandard health care

and the GOP wants us to have NO health care.

while they and the UAW get the
best of the best. *You can get away with building bombs in your youth
that kill people and then become a distinguished prof just by having a
rich Dem daddy like Ayers. *Yes. All animals are equal but some are
more equal than others.-

the GOP just steals, kills and tortures, then says god wants it that
way

what's amazing is that idiots like you believe it

On Aug 31, 11:50*am, wf3h wrote:
On Aug 31, 10:07*am, Frogwatch wrote:

On Aug 31, 9:16*am, wf3h wrote:

and if it doesn't pay, the rich will just take it from the middle
class. regardless they'll still be rich

Facts are facts, Obama has a history of appointing people who have not
paid their taxes. *

and the bush folks just rewrite the laws so that they don't pay taxes
and that we do.

The reality is that the best way to get out of

paying taxes is to be a Democratic congressman.

or a rich GOP member

**Obviously, only the

proles pay taxes, Dems do not.
Next, you can literally get away with murder if you are a Dem.
Kennedy did so. *You can also get away with sexual assault.

of course if you're a republican you can toss american citizens in
jail with no due process, you can torture with no repercussions...all
in a day's work

**You can

also get away with wanting the little people to pay carbon taxes while
generating 300x as much carbon as the average American as does Gore.
While us proles have to drive clunkers, Pelosi et. al want to fly in
ultra-luxury private planes paid for by us proles. *The Dems want to
give us proles substandard health care

and the GOP wants us to have NO health care.

*while they and the UAW get the

best of the best. *You can get away with building bombs in your youth
that kill people and then become a distinguished prof just by having a
rich Dem daddy like Ayers. *Yes. All animals are equal but some are
more equal than others.-

the GOP just steals, kills and tortures, then says god wants it that
way

what's amazing is that idiots like you believe it

Cite please. Lets have some examples of GOP appointees under Bush
failing to pay taxes. Perhaps you are confusing Pelosi who will not
even pay min wage to her people. Maybe you think Rich, the guy
Clinton forgave for failing to pay millions in taxes. Or Rangel, he's
a Dem too.
So, how many Americans were thrown in jail without due process under
Bush, please cite names.
Ah yes, blowing second hand smoke in a guys face is
torture.............right. Telling the terrorist mastermind that if
another terror incident occurs in the USA that you will kill his kids
is torture..............sure. Putting a Koran on a toilet is
torture................maybe for Dems. So, how many people were
waterboarded?
I have health care and the GOP has offered many solutions BUT the Dems
refuse to consider any, god forbid Tort reform because the rich Dem
lawyers are against it.

On Aug 31, 1:05*pm, Frogwatch wrote:
On Aug 31, 11:50*am, wf3h wrote:



On Aug 31, 10:07*am, Frogwatch wrote:

On Aug 31, 9:16*am, wf3h wrote:

and if it doesn't pay, the rich will just take it from the middle
class. regardless they'll still be rich

Facts are facts, Obama has a history of appointing people who have not
paid their taxes. *

and the bush folks just rewrite the laws so that they don't pay taxes
and that we do.

The reality is that the best way to get out of

paying taxes is to be a Democratic congressman.

or a rich GOP member

**Obviously, only the

proles pay taxes, Dems do not.
Next, you can literally get away with murder if you are a Dem.
Kennedy did so. *You can also get away with sexual assault.

of course if you're a republican you can toss american citizens in
jail with no due process, you can torture with no repercussions...all
in a day's work

**You can

also get away with wanting the little people to pay carbon taxes while
generating 300x as much carbon as the average American as does Gore.
While us proles have to drive clunkers, Pelosi et. al want to fly in
ultra-luxury private planes paid for by us proles. *The Dems want to
give us proles substandard health care

and the GOP wants us to have NO health care.

*while they and the UAW get the

best of the best. *You can get away with building bombs in your youth
that kill people and then become a distinguished prof just by having a
rich Dem daddy like Ayers. *Yes. All animals are equal but some are
more equal than others.-

the GOP just steals, kills and tortures, then says god wants it that
way

what's amazing is that idiots like you believe it

Cite please. *Lets have some examples of GOP appointees under Bush
failing to pay taxes. *Perhaps you are confusing Pelosi who will not
even pay min wage to her people. *Maybe you think Rich, the guy
Clinton forgave for failing to pay millions in taxes. *Or Rangel, he's
a Dem too.
So, how many Americans were thrown in jail without due process under
Bush, please cite names.
Ah yes, blowing second hand smoke in a guys face is
torture.............right. *Telling the terrorist mastermind that if
another terror incident occurs in the USA that you will kill his kids
is torture..............sure. *Putting a Koran on a toilet is
torture................maybe for Dems. *So, how many people were
waterboarded?
I have health care and the GOP has offered many solutions BUT the Dems
refuse to consider any, god forbid Tort reform because the rich Dem
lawyers are against it.

Of course he could be saying that the Obama admin engages in torture
as there has been no change in regards to detainees since Obama took
over. Maybe he is saying that the Bush admin did no torture as Obama
said he would not use torture and no change has taken place regarding
detainees. Libs are never clear because they are essentially incapable
of reasoning.

Frogwatch wrote:
Libs are never clear because they are essentially incapable
of reasoning.

Said crazyman Froggie to the intake counselor at the Florida State
Hospital (for the mentally incompetent).

On Aug 31, 1:42*pm, H the K wrote:
Frogwatch wrote:

Libs are never clear because they are essentially incapable

of reasoning.

Said crazyman Froggie to the intake counselor at the Florida State
Hospital (for the mentally incompetent).

test

On Aug 31, 12:42*pm, H the K wrote:
Frogwatch wrote:

Libs are never clear because they are essentially incapable

of reasoning.

Said crazyman Froggie to the intake counselor at the Florida State
Hospital (for the mentally incompetent).

And what great profane statements did you blurt out on your entrance
to Bellevue, Herr Krause?

On Aug 31, 1:39*pm, Frogwatch wrote:
On Aug 31, 1:05*pm, Frogwatch wrote:





On Aug 31, 11:50*am, wf3h wrote:

On Aug 31, 10:07*am, Frogwatch wrote:

On Aug 31, 9:16*am, wf3h wrote:

and if it doesn't pay, the rich will just take it from the middle
class. regardless they'll still be rich

Facts are facts, Obama has a history of appointing people who have not
paid their taxes. *

and the bush folks just rewrite the laws so that they don't pay taxes
and that we do.

The reality is that the best way to get out of

paying taxes is to be a Democratic congressman.

or a rich GOP member

**Obviously, only the

proles pay taxes, Dems do not.
Next, you can literally get away with murder if you are a Dem.
Kennedy did so. *You can also get away with sexual assault.

of course if you're a republican you can toss american citizens in
jail with no due process, you can torture with no repercussions...all
in a day's work

**You can

also get away with wanting the little people to pay carbon taxes while
generating 300x as much carbon as the average American as does Gore..
While us proles have to drive clunkers, Pelosi et. al want to fly in
ultra-luxury private planes paid for by us proles. *The Dems want to
give us proles substandard health care

and the GOP wants us to have NO health care.

*while they and the UAW get the

best of the best. *You can get away with building bombs in your youth
that kill people and then become a distinguished prof just by having a
rich Dem daddy like Ayers. *Yes. All animals are equal but some are
more equal than others.-

the GOP just steals, kills and tortures, then says god wants it that
way

what's amazing is that idiots like you believe it

Cite please. *Lets have some examples of GOP appointees under Bush
failing to pay taxes. *Perhaps you are confusing Pelosi who will not
even pay min wage to her people. *Maybe you think Rich, the guy
Clinton forgave for failing to pay millions in taxes. *Or Rangel, he's
a Dem too.
So, how many Americans were thrown in jail without due process under
Bush, please cite names.
Ah yes, blowing second hand smoke in a guys face is
torture.............right. *Telling the terrorist mastermind that if
another terror incident occurs in the USA that you will kill his kids
is torture..............sure. *Putting a Koran on a toilet is
torture................maybe for Dems. *So, how many people were
waterboarded?
I have health care and the GOP has offered many solutions BUT the Dems
refuse to consider any, god forbid Tort reform because the rich Dem
lawyers are against it.

Of course he could be saying that the Obama admin engages in torture
as there has been no change in regards to detainees since Obama took
over.

really? how many folks were tortured under obama? thrown into prison
without due process?

none.

On Aug 31, 2:10*pm, wf3h wrote:
On Aug 31, 1:39*pm, Frogwatch wrote:



On Aug 31, 1:05*pm, Frogwatch wrote:

On Aug 31, 11:50*am, wf3h wrote:

On Aug 31, 10:07*am, Frogwatch wrote:

On Aug 31, 9:16*am, wf3h wrote:

and if it doesn't pay, the rich will just take it from the middle
class. regardless they'll still be rich

Facts are facts, Obama has a history of appointing people who have not
paid their taxes. *

and the bush folks just rewrite the laws so that they don't pay taxes
and that we do.

The reality is that the best way to get out of

paying taxes is to be a Democratic congressman.

or a rich GOP member

**Obviously, only the

proles pay taxes, Dems do not.
Next, you can literally get away with murder if you are a Dem.
Kennedy did so. *You can also get away with sexual assault.

of course if you're a republican you can toss american citizens in
jail with no due process, you can torture with no repercussions...all
in a day's work

**You can

also get away with wanting the little people to pay carbon taxes while
generating 300x as much carbon as the average American as does Gore.
While us proles have to drive clunkers, Pelosi et. al want to fly in
ultra-luxury private planes paid for by us proles. *The Dems want to
give us proles substandard health care

and the GOP wants us to have NO health care.

*while they and the UAW get the

best of the best. *You can get away with building bombs in your youth
that kill people and then become a distinguished prof just by having a
rich Dem daddy like Ayers. *Yes. All animals are equal but some are
more equal than others.-

the GOP just steals, kills and tortures, then says god wants it that
way

what's amazing is that idiots like you believe it

Cite please. *Lets have some examples of GOP appointees under Bush
failing to pay taxes. *Perhaps you are confusing Pelosi who will not
even pay min wage to her people. *Maybe you think Rich, the guy
Clinton forgave for failing to pay millions in taxes. *Or Rangel, he's
a Dem too.
So, how many Americans were thrown in jail without due process under
Bush, please cite names.
Ah yes, blowing second hand smoke in a guys face is
torture.............right. *Telling the terrorist mastermind that if
another terror incident occurs in the USA that you will kill his kids
is torture..............sure. *Putting a Koran on a toilet is
torture................maybe for Dems. *So, how many people were
waterboarded?
I have health care and the GOP has offered many solutions BUT the Dems
refuse to consider any, god forbid Tort reform because the rich Dem
lawyers are against it.

Of course he could be saying that the Obama admin engages in torture
as there has been no change in regards to detainees since Obama took
over.

really? how many folks were tortured under obama? thrown into prison
without due process?

none.

Padilla WAS charged and DID get due process despite your not knowing
anything about the case.
Who is this mysterious chinese at Gitmo you refer to?
Once again, telling the mastermind of 9/11 that you will kill his kids
IF another attack occurs and he does not talk is not torture. You do
not seem to be able to cite any instances of torture.
So, tort reform will do nothing about health care costs? Do you think
that defensive medicine is practiced by nearly all physicians for no
reason? How many tests are ordered just so a physician is covering
his ass in case of a suit?
You do not seem to be able to back up your case in any way at all.
Obama has not changed any of the "Extraordinary Rendition" practices
that the Bush admin used. He said he would but has backed down on
every one. Clearly Obama thinks Bush was right in what he did.
Meanwhile, Obama plots to steal from the middle class and give to his
cronies at the UAW. Actually, he already did commit the greatest
wealth transfer in history.