"One reason the public so distrusts the health care plan being
considered by Congress is that so many troublesome details keep
bubbling out of the massive legislation.

The latest example is the $10 billion taxpayers will be asked to shell
out to prop up the United Auto Workers’ retiree health insurance
program. …

In effect, it would ask every taxpayer, regardless of whether they’ll
have health insurance coverage themselves after they retire — and most
won’t — to chip in to maintain the UAW’s coverage, which even after
the union’s givebacks is still better than what the average American
worker receives."


http://www.detnews.com/article/20090...-care-benefits

This is very important people. Union health plans will be exempt from
the limitations of ObamaCare, allowing unions to operate as insurers
while forcing everyone else into government-approved plans in
“exchanges”. Instead of having the union pay for their own plans,
taxpayers will subsidize them, while getting less themselves.

And let's not forget that Federal/State employees and of course our
Congress Critters will also be exempt from Obamacare.

On Sat, 29 Aug 2009 08:31:17 -0400, Tom Francis - SWSports
wrote:

"One reason the public so distrusts the health care plan being
considered by Congress is that so many troublesome details keep
bubbling out of the massive legislation.

The latest example is the $10 billion taxpayers will be asked to shell
out to prop up the United Auto Workers’ retiree health insurance
program. …

In effect, it would ask every taxpayer, regardless of whether they’ll
have health insurance coverage themselves after they retire — and most
won’t — to chip in to maintain the UAW’s coverage, which even after
the union’s givebacks is still better than what the average American
worker receives."


http://www.detnews.com/article/20090...-care-benefits

This is very important people. Union health plans will be exempt from
the limitations of ObamaCare, allowing unions to operate as insurers
while forcing everyone else into government-approved plans in
“exchanges”. Instead of having the union pay for their own plans,
taxpayers will subsidize them, while getting less themselves.

And let's not forget that Federal/State employees and of course our
Congress Critters will also be exempt from Obamacare.

Obscene, but Bush wasted $78 billion in Iraq.
--
John H

"The democracy will cease to exist when you take away from those
who are willing to work and give to those who would not."
Thomas Jefferson

On Sat, 29 Aug 2009 08:55:34 -0400, John H. wrote:


Obscene, but Bush wasted $78 billion in Iraq.

To date, the War in Iraq has cost us @ $700 billion. Some of us consider
it all wasted.

On Aug 29, 9:42*am, thunder wrote:
On Sat, 29 Aug 2009 08:55:34 -0400, John H. wrote:
Obscene, but Bush wasted $78 billion in Iraq.

To date, the War in Iraq has cost us @ $700 billion. *Some of us consider
it all wasted.

You should write your Democratic congresscritter. He/she voted for it
and allowed it to continue. Still do.

In article 7669800b-5aae-4f0f-b76f-
,
says...

On Aug 29, 9:42*am, thunder wrote:
On Sat, 29 Aug 2009 08:55:34 -0400, John H. wrote:
Obscene, but Bush wasted $78 billion in Iraq.

To date, the War in Iraq has cost us @ $700 billion. *Some of us consider
it all wasted.

You should write your Democratic congresscritter. He/she voted for it
and allowed it to continue. Still do.

Hey, that's enough with the pesky facts...

--
Wafa free since 2009

On Sat, 29 Aug 2009 10:24:28 -0400, JustWait wrote:


You should write your Democratic congresscritter. He/she voted for it
and allowed it to continue. Still do.

Hey, that's enough with the pesky facts...

Except, my district is one of the most Republican in the Northeast. Hell,
McCain even carried it by 10%. ;-(

On Sat, 29 Aug 2009 08:42:32 -0500, thunder
wrote:

On Sat, 29 Aug 2009 08:55:34 -0400, John H. wrote:


Obscene, but Bush wasted $78 billion in Iraq.

To date, the War in Iraq has cost us @ $700 billion. Some of us consider
it all wasted.

Well, that surely makes anything Obama does OK!

Tell your boy that. He's still spending the money. Let's see, I think
he's killed 49 in Afghanistan this month.
--
John H

"The democracy will cease to exist when you take away from those
who are willing to work and give to those who would not."
Thomas Jefferson

On Aug 29, 10:05*am, John H. wrote:
On Sat, 29 Aug 2009 08:42:32 -0500, thunder
wrote:

On Sat, 29 Aug 2009 08:55:34 -0400, John H. wrote:

Obscene, but Bush wasted $78 billion in Iraq.

To date, the War in Iraq has cost us @ $700 billion. *Some of us consider
it all wasted.

Well, that surely makes anything Obama does OK!

Tell your boy that. He's still spending the money. Let's see, I think
he's killed 49 in Afghanistan this month.
--

there's a reason for afghanistan; there's none for iraq

In article ,
says...

On Sat, 29 Aug 2009 08:55:34 -0400, John H. wrote:


Obscene, but Bush wasted $78 billion in Iraq.

To date, the War in Iraq has cost us @ $700 billion. Some of us consider
it all wasted.

Yeah, mostly blind ideologues... But it's ok, so far it is still legal
for us to defend ourselves and our allies.. We'll see in a few years
though, if that hasn't been "changed" too..

--
Wafa free since 2009

"thunder" wrote in message
t...
On Sat, 29 Aug 2009 08:55:34 -0400, John H. wrote:


Obscene, but Bush wasted $78 billion in Iraq.

To date, the War in Iraq has cost us @ $700 billion. Some of us consider
it all wasted.

I agree that it was all wasted. However, that does not justify what Obama
and the Congress is doing with regard to UAW.