"H the K" wrote in message
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Richard Casady wrote:
On Fri, 21 Aug 2009 19:46:25 -0400, H the K
wrote:

Tim wrote:
On Aug 21, 3:13 pm, jps wrote:
Nice to see somebody reacting to this lunacy in Arizona...

Travel icon Arthur Frommer says he won't be spending his tourism
dollars at the Grand Canyon, or anywhere else in Arizona, because the
state's laws allow people he described as "thugs" and "extremists" to
openly carry firearms.

That's ok, My brother and his family went on vacation and visited the
Grand Canyon, Yosemite, Black Hills, Rushmore and the like.

They had a really enjoyable time and didn't feel threatened by anyone.


Well, Arizona isn't yet on my list of States I'll Never Visit. Still the
same three: Texas, Mississippi, and Alabama.

The only tourist attraction in Louisiana is the French Quarter, if you
want to call a bunch of bars an attraction. Utah has some interesting
geology, and that is it.

Casady

I've been to Louisiana at least a dozen times in the past 15-20 years, and
only a fifth have been in connection with New Orleans as a "tourist"
destination. I like Louisiana. I have a poet friend who teaches English at
LSU.

I first went to Arizona on spring break with a couple of guys who lived in
the Yuma area, and I thought the geography, fauna, and flora really
interesting. I feel no need to visit Utah.

On the way to Illinois from AZ, once, I went up through the Monument Valley
and on into Utah along the Colorado River and on up through Colorado. We
were so impressed with the "geography" in Utah that we changed our trip
plans to go back through that way on our return from Illinois. That is the
prettiest country I've ever seen, and I'm comparing to the Grand Canyon,
even.

Tom G.

Tom G wrote:
"H the K" wrote in message
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Richard Casady wrote:
On Fri, 21 Aug 2009 19:46:25 -0400, H the K
wrote:

Tim wrote:
On Aug 21, 3:13 pm, jps wrote:
Nice to see somebody reacting to this lunacy in Arizona...

Travel icon Arthur Frommer says he won't be spending his tourism
dollars at the Grand Canyon, or anywhere else in Arizona, because the
state's laws allow people he described as "thugs" and "extremists" to
openly carry firearms.
That's ok, My brother and his family went on vacation and visited the
Grand Canyon, Yosemite, Black Hills, Rushmore and the like.

They had a really enjoyable time and didn't feel threatened by anyone.

Well, Arizona isn't yet on my list of States I'll Never Visit. Still the
same three: Texas, Mississippi, and Alabama.
The only tourist attraction in Louisiana is the French Quarter, if you
want to call a bunch of bars an attraction. Utah has some interesting
geology, and that is it.

Casady
I've been to Louisiana at least a dozen times in the past 15-20 years, and
only a fifth have been in connection with New Orleans as a "tourist"
destination. I like Louisiana. I have a poet friend who teaches English at
LSU.

I first went to Arizona on spring break with a couple of guys who lived in
the Yuma area, and I thought the geography, fauna, and flora really
interesting. I feel no need to visit Utah.

On the way to Illinois from AZ, once, I went up through the Monument Valley
and on into Utah along the Colorado River and on up through Colorado. We
were so impressed with the "geography" in Utah that we changed our trip
plans to go back through that way on our return from Illinois. That is the
prettiest country I've ever seen, and I'm comparing to the Grand Canyon,
even.

Tom G.



I'm sure Utah has many beautiful vistas. I feel no need to spend money
in a state run as a theocracy.

On Aug 22, 10:39*am, NotNow wrote:
SteveB wrote:
"Richard Casady" wrote in message
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On Fri, 21 Aug 2009 19:46:25 -0400, H the K
wrote:

Tim wrote:
On Aug 21, 3:13 pm, jps wrote:
Nice to see somebody reacting to this lunacy in Arizona...

Travel icon Arthur Frommer says he won't be spending his tourism
dollars at the Grand Canyon, or anywhere else in Arizona, because the
state's laws allow people he described as "thugs" and "extremists" to
openly carry firearms.

That's ok, My brother and his family went on vacation and visited the
Grand Canyon, Yosemite, Black Hills, Rushmore and the like.

They had a really enjoyable time and didn't feel threatened by anyone.

Well, Arizona isn't yet on my list of States I'll Never Visit. Still the
same three: *Texas, Mississippi, and Alabama.
The only tourist attraction in Louisiana is the French Quarter, if you
want to call a bunch of bars an attraction. Utah has some interesting
geology, and that is it.

Casady

I can see you've never been to Utah. *And if you have, and that's all you
got out of the trip, I pity you. *As for Louisiana, there's lots to see and
do. *I have lived in both states, so I am not speaking through my hat..

Steve

What's even more amazing is that fat ass Harry doesn't understand, nor
have knowledge of those states he mentioned's tremendous beauty and
natural resources. He's a bigot.

I've been though utah, but it was a long time ago and I thought it was
a beautiful state, myself.

On Fri, 21 Aug 2009 13:13:52 -0700, jps wrote:


Nice to see somebody reacting to this lunacy in Arizona...

Travel icon Arthur Frommer says he won't be spending his tourism
dollars at the Grand Canyon, or anywhere else in Arizona, because the
state's laws allow people he described as "thugs" and "extremists" to
openly carry firearms.

The pioneering author of budget-travel guides said on his blog
Wednesday that he was "shocked beyond measure" by reports that a dozen
protesters openly carried guns and rifles outside a Phoenix building
where President Barack Obama spoke on Monday.

Frommer says he won't travel in a state where civilians carry loaded
weapons as a means of political protest.

On his blog (www.frommers.com/blog), Frommer wrote:

"For myself, without yet suggesting that others follow me in an open
boycott, I will not personally travel in a state where civilians carry
loaded weapons onto the sidewalks and as a means of political protest.
I not only believe such practices are a threat to the future of our
democracy, but I am firmly convinced that they would also endanger my
own personal safety there. And therefore I will cancel any plans to
vacation or otherwise visit in Arizona until I learn more. And I will
begin thinking about whether tourists should safeguard themselves by
avoiding stays in Arizona."

Phoenix Mayor Phil Gordon says he spoke with Frommer on Thursday and
invited him to visit the city to clear up any possible misconceptions
about safety.

Good news. Maybe it'll be less crowded when we go to Flagstaff next
year to see all the sights.
--

John H

"My reading of history convinces me that most bad government
results from too much government."

Thomas Jefferson

On Fri, 21 Aug 2009 16:37:14 -0700 (PDT), Tim
wrote:

On Aug 21, 3:13*pm, jps wrote:
Nice to see somebody reacting to this lunacy in Arizona...

Travel icon Arthur Frommer says he won't be spending his tourism
dollars at the Grand Canyon, or anywhere else in Arizona, because the
state's laws allow people he described as "thugs" and "extremists" to
openly carry firearms.


That's ok, My brother and his family went on vacation and visited the
Grand Canyon, Yosemite, Black Hills, Rushmore and the like.

They had a really enjoyable time and didn't feel threatened by anyone.

Tim, did they camp out there, or were they motelling it?
--

John H

"My reading of history convinces me that most bad government
results from too much government."

Thomas Jefferson