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NotNow[_3_] August 27th 09 02:25 PM

A Surefire Plan!
 
U-joint Buster wrote:
On Wed, 26 Aug 2009 09:04:10 -0400, NotNow wrote:

Mille GT Owner wrote:
On Tue, 25 Aug 2009 08:49:36 -0400, NotNow wrote:

Guzzistimo wrote:
On Mon, 24 Aug 2009 17:12:14 -0400, NotNow wrote:

Guzzistimo wrote:
On Mon, 24 Aug 2009 10:26:06 -0400, NotNow wrote:

JustWait wrote:
In article ,
says...
On Fri, 21 Aug 2009 09:31:59 -0400, NotNow wrote:

wf3h wrote:
On Aug 20, 8:11 pm, Old Guzzisti wrote:
Let's get this straight...

We're going to pass a health care plan

-written by a committee whose head says he doesn't understand it,
we had 8 years of free market capitalism...and look at what it did for
us

it's time to get some benefits for the middle class instead of
wallstreet.

What could possibly go wrong?

--
we could say no and continue to rely on the free market....that'd
screw us good
The hard core righties here don't think that Bush did anything
wrong....ever. It's all some liberals fault. Ask them!
I've mentioned several things I think Bush did wrong - including the
way he handled the war in Iraq, spending money like a fool, allowing
the Dems to have their way with TSC and TARP and a few other
stupidities.

If you've something specific, say it. You keep doing nothing but
generalizing.
Loog is stuck on this even though all of use have posted similar lists
of mistakes and dirty repubs.. I am waiting for him to reciprocate, but
I don't think it's gonna' happen..

I'm not stuck on anything! You and John, however ARE. You're stuck on
anything Obama = bad. Hell you two are saying things won't work that
haven't even been ironed out yet. You don't know that those things won't
work, you have listened and retold numerous lies propagated by your party.
If they've not even been ironed out yet, then they won't work as
currently written.

Remember, we're commenting on a proposed bill that *is* written. If it
hasn't been 'ironed out' yet, why was it published?

--
John H

"If you think healthcare is expensive now, wait until it's free!"
--Anonymous
But you are commenting on lies!!!!
Loogy, I've posted portions of the bill on which I've commented. Now
you're telling me it's not 'ironed out' yet. Then why the hell was it
published?

What is going to change?
--
John H

I don't know, it's not my bill. So where did you read in the bill about
Obama wanting to kill the elderly and infirm?
Well, if you don't know, why do you say it's still to be 'ironed out'?
Why was the bill published if it's still to be 'ironed out'?

I didn't read that Obama wanted to kill anyone. What made you think I
had?


--
John H

"If you think healthcare is expensive now, wait until it's free!"
--Anonymous

Because you've said right here in rec.boats that the bill is a way to
kill off the elderly instead of caring for them, thus freeing up money
to use for other healthcare. So where is that in the bill? Oh, I
remember, most conservatives parse giving end of life advice, such as
living will education, etc. as wanting them dead....forgot.


Show me, or admit you just lied.
--
John H

"If you think healthcare is expensive now, wait until it's free!"
--Anonymous


Sure thing. Here's the conservsation Scotty and I were having, as he was
saying that Oregon pays for the meds to kill off the elderly. I asked if
he thought that because Oregon does it, that that's what Obama wants.
You can read your reply yourself.

The model is already being set in Oregon. A man whit Hepatitis was
turned down for treatment but sent a letter suggesting that the state
would help him pay for "end of life" meds to end well, his life... That
is not a lie, it is an example of how far left medical coverage

works...


So are you really saying that because Oregon did something that that is
what will be in the final bill that Obama is proposing? Really?




Absolutely, if Obama had his way. Thank God there are some Republicans
with enough balls to go against the liberal agenda.

Then you said this: "help the elderly meet a timely death"....

"Be a devout Christian, kill babies, help the elderly meet a 'timely'
death, enlarge government as much as possible, allow the 15 million
illegals in this country to fast track to citizenship......."


There's more, if you wouldn't change your

JLH[_3_] August 27th 09 05:20 PM

A Surefire Plan!
 
On Thu, 27 Aug 2009 09:25:34 -0400, NotNow wrote:

U-joint Buster wrote:
On Wed, 26 Aug 2009 09:04:10 -0400, NotNow wrote:

Mille GT Owner wrote:
On Tue, 25 Aug 2009 08:49:36 -0400, NotNow wrote:

Guzzistimo wrote:
On Mon, 24 Aug 2009 17:12:14 -0400, NotNow wrote:

Guzzistimo wrote:
On Mon, 24 Aug 2009 10:26:06 -0400, NotNow wrote:

JustWait wrote:
In article ,
says...
On Fri, 21 Aug 2009 09:31:59 -0400, NotNow wrote:

wf3h wrote:
On Aug 20, 8:11 pm, Old Guzzisti wrote:
Let's get this straight...

We're going to pass a health care plan

-written by a committee whose head says he doesn't understand it,
we had 8 years of free market capitalism...and look at what it did for
us

it's time to get some benefits for the middle class instead of
wallstreet.

What could possibly go wrong?

--
we could say no and continue to rely on the free market....that'd
screw us good
The hard core righties here don't think that Bush did anything
wrong....ever. It's all some liberals fault. Ask them!
I've mentioned several things I think Bush did wrong - including the
way he handled the war in Iraq, spending money like a fool, allowing
the Dems to have their way with TSC and TARP and a few other
stupidities.

If you've something specific, say it. You keep doing nothing but
generalizing.
Loog is stuck on this even though all of use have posted similar lists
of mistakes and dirty repubs.. I am waiting for him to reciprocate, but
I don't think it's gonna' happen..

I'm not stuck on anything! You and John, however ARE. You're stuck on
anything Obama = bad. Hell you two are saying things won't work that
haven't even been ironed out yet. You don't know that those things won't
work, you have listened and retold numerous lies propagated by your party.
If they've not even been ironed out yet, then they won't work as
currently written.

Remember, we're commenting on a proposed bill that *is* written. If it
hasn't been 'ironed out' yet, why was it published?

--
John H

"If you think healthcare is expensive now, wait until it's free!"
--Anonymous
But you are commenting on lies!!!!
Loogy, I've posted portions of the bill on which I've commented. Now
you're telling me it's not 'ironed out' yet. Then why the hell was it
published?

What is going to change?
--
John H

I don't know, it's not my bill. So where did you read in the bill about
Obama wanting to kill the elderly and infirm?
Well, if you don't know, why do you say it's still to be 'ironed out'?
Why was the bill published if it's still to be 'ironed out'?

I didn't read that Obama wanted to kill anyone. What made you think I
had?


--
John H

"If you think healthcare is expensive now, wait until it's free!"
--Anonymous
Because you've said right here in rec.boats that the bill is a way to
kill off the elderly instead of caring for them, thus freeing up money
to use for other healthcare. So where is that in the bill? Oh, I
remember, most conservatives parse giving end of life advice, such as
living will education, etc. as wanting them dead....forgot.


Show me, or admit you just lied.
--
John H

"If you think healthcare is expensive now, wait until it's free!"
--Anonymous


Sure thing. Here's the conservsation Scotty and I were having, as he was
saying that Oregon pays for the meds to kill off the elderly. I asked if
he thought that because Oregon does it, that that's what Obama wants.
You can read your reply yourself.

The model is already being set in Oregon. A man whit Hepatitis was
turned down for treatment but sent a letter suggesting that the state
would help him pay for "end of life" meds to end well, his life... That
is not a lie, it is an example of how far left medical coverage

works...


So are you really saying that because Oregon did something that that is
what will be in the final bill that Obama is proposing? Really?




Absolutely, if Obama had his way. Thank God there are some Republicans
with enough balls to go against the liberal agenda.

Then you said this: "help the elderly meet a timely death"....

"Be a devout Christian, kill babies, help the elderly meet a 'timely'
death, enlarge government as much as possible, allow the 15 million
illegals in this country to fast track to citizenship......."


There's more, if you wouldn't change your


?????

Where did I say, "The bill is a way to kill off the elderly"?

So far you've not shown me. To take a sentence and *your*
interpretation is not showing anything.

In other words, your statement is bull****, and a lie.
--
John H

"The democracy will cease to exist when you take away from those
who are willing to work and give to those who would not."
Thomas Jefferson

NotNow[_3_] August 27th 09 06:00 PM

A Surefire Plan!
 
JLH wrote:
On Thu, 27 Aug 2009 09:25:34 -0400, NotNow wrote:

U-joint Buster wrote:
On Wed, 26 Aug 2009 09:04:10 -0400, NotNow wrote:

Mille GT Owner wrote:
On Tue, 25 Aug 2009 08:49:36 -0400, NotNow wrote:

Guzzistimo wrote:
On Mon, 24 Aug 2009 17:12:14 -0400, NotNow wrote:

Guzzistimo wrote:
On Mon, 24 Aug 2009 10:26:06 -0400, NotNow wrote:

JustWait wrote:
In article ,
says...
On Fri, 21 Aug 2009 09:31:59 -0400, NotNow wrote:

wf3h wrote:
On Aug 20, 8:11 pm, Old Guzzisti wrote:
Let's get this straight...

We're going to pass a health care plan

-written by a committee whose head says he doesn't understand it,
we had 8 years of free market capitalism...and look at what it did for
us

it's time to get some benefits for the middle class instead of
wallstreet.

What could possibly go wrong?

--
we could say no and continue to rely on the free market....that'd
screw us good
The hard core righties here don't think that Bush did anything
wrong....ever. It's all some liberals fault. Ask them!
I've mentioned several things I think Bush did wrong - including the
way he handled the war in Iraq, spending money like a fool, allowing
the Dems to have their way with TSC and TARP and a few other
stupidities.

If you've something specific, say it. You keep doing nothing but
generalizing.
Loog is stuck on this even though all of use have posted similar lists
of mistakes and dirty repubs.. I am waiting for him to reciprocate, but
I don't think it's gonna' happen..

I'm not stuck on anything! You and John, however ARE. You're stuck on
anything Obama = bad. Hell you two are saying things won't work that
haven't even been ironed out yet. You don't know that those things won't
work, you have listened and retold numerous lies propagated by your party.
If they've not even been ironed out yet, then they won't work as
currently written.

Remember, we're commenting on a proposed bill that *is* written. If it
hasn't been 'ironed out' yet, why was it published?

--
John H

"If you think healthcare is expensive now, wait until it's free!"
--Anonymous
But you are commenting on lies!!!!
Loogy, I've posted portions of the bill on which I've commented. Now
you're telling me it's not 'ironed out' yet. Then why the hell was it
published?

What is going to change?
--
John H

I don't know, it's not my bill. So where did you read in the bill about
Obama wanting to kill the elderly and infirm?
Well, if you don't know, why do you say it's still to be 'ironed out'?
Why was the bill published if it's still to be 'ironed out'?

I didn't read that Obama wanted to kill anyone. What made you think I
had?


--
John H

"If you think healthcare is expensive now, wait until it's free!"
--Anonymous
Because you've said right here in rec.boats that the bill is a way to
kill off the elderly instead of caring for them, thus freeing up money
to use for other healthcare. So where is that in the bill? Oh, I
remember, most conservatives parse giving end of life advice, such as
living will education, etc. as wanting them dead....forgot.
Show me, or admit you just lied.
--
John H

"If you think healthcare is expensive now, wait until it's free!"
--Anonymous

Sure thing. Here's the conservsation Scotty and I were having, as he was
saying that Oregon pays for the meds to kill off the elderly. I asked if
he thought that because Oregon does it, that that's what Obama wants.
You can read your reply yourself.

The model is already being set in Oregon. A man whit Hepatitis was
turned down for treatment but sent a letter suggesting that the state
would help him pay for "end of life" meds to end well, his life... That
is not a lie, it is an example of how far left medical coverage

works...


So are you really saying that because Oregon did something that that is
what will be in the final bill that Obama is proposing? Really?



Absolutely, if Obama had his way. Thank God there are some Republicans
with enough balls to go against the liberal agenda.

Then you said this: "help the elderly meet a timely death"....

"Be a devout Christian, kill babies, help the elderly meet a 'timely'
death, enlarge government as much as possible, allow the 15 million
illegals in this country to fast track to citizenship......."


There's more, if you wouldn't change your


?????

Where did I say, "The bill is a way to kill off the elderly"?


What would you say that the words "help elderly meet a timely DEATH"
would mean?

So far you've not shown me. To take a sentence and *your*
interpretation is not showing anything.


See above.
In other words, your statement is bull****, and a lie.


No, it's not.
--
John H


You're getting so much like Harry that you choose your words to thinly
veil your beliefs so that you can refute them at anytime. Call me a liar
any time you want.


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