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On Fri, 21 Aug 2009 09:07:13 -0300, "Don White"
wrote: "Old Guzzisti" wrote in message .. . On Fri, 21 Aug 2009 00:23:14 -0300, "Don White" wrote: "Old Guzzisti" wrote in message ... Let's get this straight... We're going to pass a health care plan -written by a committee whose head says he doesn't understand it, -passed by a Congress that hasn't read it but exempts themselves from it, -signed by a president that also hasn't read it and who smokes, -with funding administered by a treasury chief who didn't pay his taxes, -overseen by a surgeon general who is obese, and... -financed by a country that's nearly broke. What could possibly go wrong? -- John H. What do you care? You already 'have yours'........as long as Uncle Sam is operational. Just think, Donnie, if you'd applied yourself instead of waiting for handouts, you'd be in decent shape too. Now, just sit back and whine like 'wf2wh' or whatever. -- John H. Waiting for handouts?? I was never a member of the US Army..where higher commissions are bestowed on the longest lasting boot-licker. We know how you avoided military service Donnie. It's funny how those who 'were too smart to serve' (i.e., cowardly) have to put down the military to feel better about themselves. -- John H "My reading of history convinces me that most bad government results from too much government." Thomas Jefferson |
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wf3h wrote:
On Aug 20, 8:11 pm, Old Guzzisti wrote: Let's get this straight... We're going to pass a health care plan -written by a committee whose head says he doesn't understand it, we had 8 years of free market capitalism...and look at what it did for us it's time to get some benefits for the middle class instead of wallstreet. What could possibly go wrong? -- we could say no and continue to rely on the free market....that'd screw us good The hard core righties here don't think that Bush did anything wrong....ever. It's all some liberals fault. Ask them! |
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Old Guzzisti wrote:
On Thu, 20 Aug 2009 17:32:44 -0700 (PDT), wf3h wrote: On Aug 20, 8:11 pm, Old Guzzisti wrote: Let's get this straight... We're going to pass a health care plan -written by a committee whose head says he doesn't understand it, we had 8 years of free market capitalism...and look at what it did for us it's time to get some benefits for the middle class instead of wallstreet. What could possibly go wrong? -- we could say no and continue to rely on the free market....that'd screw us good You, wf3h, are an incessant whiner who wants to blame Republicans for your stupidity in money matters. -- John H. Damn straight, every one should know that conservatives have never ever done anything other than good and liberals have never, ever done anything that WAS good. |
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Guzzistimo wrote:
On Fri, 21 Aug 2009 03:25:01 -0700 (PDT), wf3h wrote: On Aug 20, 11:32 pm, wrote: On Thu, 20 Aug 2009 23:08:21 -0400, "Lu Powell" wrote: wrote in message ... On Thu, 20 Aug 2009 17:32:44 -0700 (PDT), wf3h wrote: On Aug 20, 8:11 pm, Old Guzzisti wrote: Let's get this straight... We're going to pass a health care plan -written by a committee whose head says he doesn't understand it, we had 8 years of free market capitalism...and look at what it did for us it's time to get some benefits for the middle class instead of wallstreet. What could possibly go wrong? -- we could say no and continue to rely on the free market....that'd screw us good We've had a form of "free market capitalism" for scores of decades now. What did it do for us? The Long Boom. The strongest national economy in the history of the modern world. The most affluent middle-class in modern history. Please don't respond, though. It's not that you will have any reasonable refutation. You won't. It's that I've had my fill of liberal naivete, misinformation, dissembling, hyperbole, propaganda, and prevarication. (I did have a very good friend once who was an ardent liberal; but, he wasn't intellectually dishonest.) -- Posted via NewsDemon.com - Premium Uncensored Newsgroup Service -------http://www.NewsDemon.com------ Unlimited Access, Anonymous Accounts, Uncensored Broadband Access I'm no liberal by any stretch of the imagination. You just figuratively killed the messenger by rejecting out of hand John Mackey's ideas because I labeled him progressive. How stupid can that be? Did you even read what he had to say? His ideas are largely free-market and workable proposals. Don't confuse you with the facts, your mind is made up, just like the Dims in Washington on Capitol Hill and at 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue. There's no sense in wasting your time and energy, Lu. He is nothing but empty rhetoric. Most Progressive's lack compassion, a genuine sense of history, and intellectual honesty. IOW they disagree with right wing sock puppets... They not doubt like to think better of themselves; but, then only a person that IS willing to be intellectually honest will examine the flaws in their own reasoning. That's why there is such a flurry of informal fallacies coming from the left, and when that fact is spoken to, the discussion simply goes somewhere else in true red herring fashion. IOW they don't believe my little free market fairy tales, and dont believe in monsters under the bed like any right wing child would They do love the their Leviathon. somebody's gotta put god on the defensive Somebody has to be an incessant whiner. -- John H You mean like whining about a health care plan? |
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"Guzzistimo" wrote in message ... On Fri, 21 Aug 2009 09:07:13 -0300, "Don White" wrote: "Old Guzzisti" wrote in message . .. On Fri, 21 Aug 2009 00:23:14 -0300, "Don White" wrote: "Old Guzzisti" wrote in message m... Let's get this straight... We're going to pass a health care plan -written by a committee whose head says he doesn't understand it, -passed by a Congress that hasn't read it but exempts themselves from it, -signed by a president that also hasn't read it and who smokes, -with funding administered by a treasury chief who didn't pay his taxes, -overseen by a surgeon general who is obese, and... -financed by a country that's nearly broke. What could possibly go wrong? -- John H. What do you care? You already 'have yours'........as long as Uncle Sam is operational. Just think, Donnie, if you'd applied yourself instead of waiting for handouts, you'd be in decent shape too. Now, just sit back and whine like 'wf2wh' or whatever. -- John H. Waiting for handouts?? I was never a member of the US Army..where higher commissions are bestowed on the longest lasting boot-licker. We know how you avoided military service Donnie. It's funny how those who 'were too smart to serve' (i.e., cowardly) have to put down the military to feel better about themselves. -- John H What are you blathering about? Up here it has been a volunteer military since the end of WW2........... same as it is down your way these days. |
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On Aug 21, 8:05*am, Keith Nuttle wrote:
wf3h wrote: On Aug 20, 10:30 pm, "Lu Powell" wrote: There are valid and workable alternatives to the Dims' socialistic answers to everything that will leave this country bankrupt. Wouldn't it make sense to consider the alternatives rather than reject them out of hand? what's amazing about you free market fundies is you ignore history if YOUR solution worked, we wouldn't be in the situation we're in. your solution is a failure. that's why the entire advanced world has abandoned it. it's why we have the most expensive and least effective health care in the world and you'll continue masturbating yourself about the fantasies you have about your free market wet dreams... lullabye and good night. Socialism is an unnatural system that has never succeed. that's why i'm not a socialist. Free market "Capitalism" has been working in the world since the start of the worlds oldest profession" and probably earlier. really? if this is how it succeeds then what is a failure? |
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On Aug 21, 9:01*am, Guzzistimo wrote:
On Fri, 21 Aug 2009 04:24:01 -0700 (PDT), wf3h wrote: On Aug 21, 6:00*am, Old Guzzisti wrote: On Fri, 21 Aug 2009 00:23:14 -0300, "Don White" wrote: "Old Guzzisti" wrote in message .. . Let's get this straight... We're going to pass a health care plan -written by a committee whose head says he doesn't understand it, -passed by a Congress that hasn't read it but exempts themselves from it, -signed by a president that also hasn't read it and who smokes, -with funding administered by a treasury chief who didn't pay his taxes, -overseen by a surgeon general who is obese, and... -financed by a country that's nearly broke. What could possibly go wrong? -- John H. What do you care? You already 'have yours'........as long as Uncle Sam is operational. Just think, Donnie, if you'd applied yourself instead of waiting for handouts, you'd be in decent shape too. guess he doesn't realize a hundred million middle class wage earners are in the same boat. after all, he's been told by the rich that they're doing OK after having ravaged the middle class....so that means all is right with the world. How is socialism going to help your problem? since i'm not a socialist i wouldn't know. Have you considered doing the same, or is whining your means to an end. he whined... BTW, Donnie approves of your whining. He does it also. -- golly. do you put earplugs in when you whine about other people whining? |
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On Aug 21, 8:58*am, Guzzistimo wrote:
On Fri, 21 Aug 2009 04:21:04 -0700 (PDT), wf3h wrote: On Aug 21, 6:30*am, Guzzistimo wrote: On Fri, 21 Aug 2009 03:25:26 -0700 (PDT), wf3h wrote: and you are a sock puppet for thieves. A stupid man leaves his possessions in the street and whines when they are removed. -- glad to see you admit the 'free market' we created in this country by trusting the rich is a form of thievery.... welcome to reality Whoooosh -- says the man who just compared the free market to abandoning your property in the street. rarely does one get to see a guy make a point that goes over his own head! |
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"wf3h" wrote in message ... On Aug 21, 9:01 am, Guzzistimo wrote: On Fri, 21 Aug 2009 04:24:01 -0700 (PDT), wf3h wrote: On Aug 21, 6:00 am, Old Guzzisti wrote: On Fri, 21 Aug 2009 00:23:14 -0300, "Don White" wrote: "Old Guzzisti" wrote in message .. . Let's get this straight... We're going to pass a health care plan -written by a committee whose head says he doesn't understand it, -passed by a Congress that hasn't read it but exempts themselves from it, -signed by a president that also hasn't read it and who smokes, -with funding administered by a treasury chief who didn't pay his taxes, -overseen by a surgeon general who is obese, and... -financed by a country that's nearly broke. What could possibly go wrong? -- John H. What do you care? You already 'have yours'........as long as Uncle Sam is operational. Just think, Donnie, if you'd applied yourself instead of waiting for handouts, you'd be in decent shape too. guess he doesn't realize a hundred million middle class wage earners are in the same boat. after all, he's been told by the rich that they're doing OK after having ravaged the middle class....so that means all is right with the world. How is socialism going to help your problem? since i'm not a socialist i wouldn't know. Have you considered doing the same, or is whining your means to an end. he whined... BTW, Donnie approves of your whining. He does it also. -- golly. do you put earplugs in when you whine about other people whining? ************************************************ ~~ Snerk ~~ That's our JohnnyPrepH! |
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Don White wrote:
"wf3h" wrote in message ... On Aug 21, 9:01 am, Guzzistimo wrote: On Fri, 21 Aug 2009 04:24:01 -0700 (PDT), wf3h wrote: On Aug 21, 6:00 am, Old Guzzisti wrote: On Fri, 21 Aug 2009 00:23:14 -0300, "Don White" wrote: "Old Guzzisti" wrote in message ... Let's get this straight... We're going to pass a health care plan -written by a committee whose head says he doesn't understand it, -passed by a Congress that hasn't read it but exempts themselves from it, -signed by a president that also hasn't read it and who smokes, -with funding administered by a treasury chief who didn't pay his taxes, -overseen by a surgeon general who is obese, and... -financed by a country that's nearly broke. What could possibly go wrong? -- John H. What do you care? You already 'have yours'........as long as Uncle Sam is operational. Just think, Donnie, if you'd applied yourself instead of waiting for handouts, you'd be in decent shape too. guess he doesn't realize a hundred million middle class wage earners are in the same boat. after all, he's been told by the rich that they're doing OK after having ravaged the middle class....so that means all is right with the world. How is socialism going to help your problem? since i'm not a socialist i wouldn't know. Have you considered doing the same, or is whining your means to an end. he whined... BTW, Donnie approves of your whining. He does it also. -- golly. do you put earplugs in when you whine about other people whining? ************************************************ ~~ Snerk ~~ That's our JohnnyPrepH! Johnny H emorrhoid: * does not consider his whining whining * does not consider his racist remarks racist * does not consider his insults of others insults |
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"Guzzistimo" wrote in message ... Whippy dip. I'm proud of you. -- John H Wish I could say the same............................. |
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On Sun, 23 Aug 2009 11:54:01 -0400, NotNow wrote:
Guzzistimo wrote: On Fri, 21 Aug 2009 09:31:59 -0400, NotNow wrote: wf3h wrote: On Aug 20, 8:11 pm, Old Guzzisti wrote: Let's get this straight... We're going to pass a health care plan -written by a committee whose head says he doesn't understand it, we had 8 years of free market capitalism...and look at what it did for us it's time to get some benefits for the middle class instead of wallstreet. What could possibly go wrong? -- we could say no and continue to rely on the free market....that'd screw us good The hard core righties here don't think that Bush did anything wrong....ever. It's all some liberals fault. Ask them! I've mentioned several things I think Bush did wrong - including the way he handled the war in Iraq, spending money like a fool, allowing the Dems to have their way with TSC and TARP and a few other stupidities. If you've something specific, say it. You keep doing nothing but generalizing. -- John H Notice, if you will the blaming qualifier of "allowing Dems to have their way with....." So what? Bush still screwed up. -- John H "My reading of history convinces me that most bad government results from too much government." Thomas Jefferson |
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On Sun, 23 Aug 2009 14:22:57 -0300, "Don White"
wrote: "Guzzistimo" wrote in message .. . Whippy dip. I'm proud of you. -- John H Wish I could say the same............................. Being ashamed of yourself must be hard. I've never had a problem looking in a mirror, but I can see where you might. Have a good day. Call your mom and say something worthwhile. Quit pretending to be so friggin' stupid. -- John H "My reading of history convinces me that most bad government results from too much government." Thomas Jefferson |
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Guzzistimo wrote:
On Sun, 23 Aug 2009 14:22:57 -0300, "Don White" wrote: "Guzzistimo" wrote in message ... Whippy dip. I'm proud of you. -- John H Wish I could say the same............................. Being ashamed of yourself must be hard. I've never had a problem looking in a mirror, but I can see where you might. Have a good day. Call your mom and say something worthwhile. Quit pretending to be so friggin' stupid. -- John H John, I really don't think he's pretending! |
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Guzzistimo wrote:
On Sun, 23 Aug 2009 14:22:57 -0300, "Don White" wrote: "Guzzistimo" wrote in message ... Whippy dip. I'm proud of you. -- John H Wish I could say the same............................. Being ashamed of yourself must be hard. I've never had a problem looking in a mirror, but I can see where you might. Have a good day. Call your mom and say something worthwhile. Quit pretending to be so friggin' stupid. -- John H "My reading of history convinces me that most bad government results from too much government." Thomas Jefferson He's pretending? He's doing an excellent job of that! |
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Don White wrote:
"Guzzistimo" wrote in message ... On Fri, 21 Aug 2009 09:07:13 -0300, "Don White" wrote: "Old Guzzisti" wrote in message ... On Fri, 21 Aug 2009 00:23:14 -0300, "Don White" wrote: "Old Guzzisti" wrote in message ... Let's get this straight... We're going to pass a health care plan -written by a committee whose head says he doesn't understand it, -passed by a Congress that hasn't read it but exempts themselves from it, -signed by a president that also hasn't read it and who smokes, -with funding administered by a treasury chief who didn't pay his taxes, -overseen by a surgeon general who is obese, and... -financed by a country that's nearly broke. What could possibly go wrong? -- John H. What do you care? You already 'have yours'........as long as Uncle Sam is operational. Just think, Donnie, if you'd applied yourself instead of waiting for handouts, you'd be in decent shape too. Now, just sit back and whine like 'wf2wh' or whatever. -- John H. Waiting for handouts?? I was never a member of the US Army..where higher commissions are bestowed on the longest lasting boot-licker. We know how you avoided military service Donnie. It's funny how those who 'were too smart to serve' (i.e., cowardly) have to put down the military to feel better about themselves. -- John H What are you blathering about? Up here it has been a volunteer military since the end of WW2........... same as it is down your way these days. In my day, the smart and privileged stayed out. Ask Dick Cheney how it worked. |
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On Sun, 23 Aug 2009 19:26:42 -0700, Jim wrote:
Don White wrote: "Guzzistimo" wrote in message ... On Fri, 21 Aug 2009 09:07:13 -0300, "Don White" wrote: "Old Guzzisti" wrote in message ... On Fri, 21 Aug 2009 00:23:14 -0300, "Don White" wrote: "Old Guzzisti" wrote in message ... Let's get this straight... We're going to pass a health care plan -written by a committee whose head says he doesn't understand it, -passed by a Congress that hasn't read it but exempts themselves from it, -signed by a president that also hasn't read it and who smokes, -with funding administered by a treasury chief who didn't pay his taxes, -overseen by a surgeon general who is obese, and... -financed by a country that's nearly broke. What could possibly go wrong? -- John H. What do you care? You already 'have yours'........as long as Uncle Sam is operational. Just think, Donnie, if you'd applied yourself instead of waiting for handouts, you'd be in decent shape too. Now, just sit back and whine like 'wf2wh' or whatever. -- John H. Waiting for handouts?? I was never a member of the US Army..where higher commissions are bestowed on the longest lasting boot-licker. We know how you avoided military service Donnie. It's funny how those who 'were too smart to serve' (i.e., cowardly) have to put down the military to feel better about themselves. -- John H What are you blathering about? Up here it has been a volunteer military since the end of WW2........... same as it is down your way these days. In my day, the smart and privileged stayed out. Ask Dick Cheney how it worked. I thought Krause and Donnie were the resident experts at being smart enough to stay out. But, I'll add you to the list if you desire. -- John H "If you think healthcare is expensive now, wait until it's free!" --Anonymous |
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"Guzzistimo" wrote in message ... On Sun, 23 Aug 2009 19:26:42 -0700, Jim wrote: Don White wrote: "Guzzistimo" wrote in message ... On Fri, 21 Aug 2009 09:07:13 -0300, "Don White" wrote: "Old Guzzisti" wrote in message ... On Fri, 21 Aug 2009 00:23:14 -0300, "Don White" wrote: "Old Guzzisti" wrote in message ... Let's get this straight... We're going to pass a health care plan -written by a committee whose head says he doesn't understand it, -passed by a Congress that hasn't read it but exempts themselves from it, -signed by a president that also hasn't read it and who smokes, -with funding administered by a treasury chief who didn't pay his taxes, -overseen by a surgeon general who is obese, and... -financed by a country that's nearly broke. What could possibly go wrong? -- John H. What do you care? You already 'have yours'........as long as Uncle Sam is operational. Just think, Donnie, if you'd applied yourself instead of waiting for handouts, you'd be in decent shape too. Now, just sit back and whine like 'wf2wh' or whatever. -- John H. Waiting for handouts?? I was never a member of the US Army..where higher commissions are bestowed on the longest lasting boot-licker. We know how you avoided military service Donnie. It's funny how those who 'were too smart to serve' (i.e., cowardly) have to put down the military to feel better about themselves. -- John H What are you blathering about? Up here it has been a volunteer military since the end of WW2........... same as it is down your way these days. In my day, the smart and privileged stayed out. Ask Dick Cheney how it worked. I thought Krause and Donnie were the resident experts at being smart enough to stay out. But, I'll add you to the list if you desire. -- John H Johnny...you're spazin' out again. I didn't say I was "smart enough to stay out" Most of my extended family did very well in our military. One cousins son is a bit messed up from a mideast tour (was supposed to be clerical on the base but ended up being gunner on an APC) |
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On Mon, 24 Aug 2009 10:26:06 -0400, NotNow wrote:
JustWait wrote: In article , says... On Fri, 21 Aug 2009 09:31:59 -0400, NotNow wrote: wf3h wrote: On Aug 20, 8:11 pm, Old Guzzisti wrote: Let's get this straight... We're going to pass a health care plan -written by a committee whose head says he doesn't understand it, we had 8 years of free market capitalism...and look at what it did for us it's time to get some benefits for the middle class instead of wallstreet. What could possibly go wrong? -- we could say no and continue to rely on the free market....that'd screw us good The hard core righties here don't think that Bush did anything wrong....ever. It's all some liberals fault. Ask them! I've mentioned several things I think Bush did wrong - including the way he handled the war in Iraq, spending money like a fool, allowing the Dems to have their way with TSC and TARP and a few other stupidities. If you've something specific, say it. You keep doing nothing but generalizing. Loog is stuck on this even though all of use have posted similar lists of mistakes and dirty repubs.. I am waiting for him to reciprocate, but I don't think it's gonna' happen.. I'm not stuck on anything! You and John, however ARE. You're stuck on anything Obama = bad. Hell you two are saying things won't work that haven't even been ironed out yet. You don't know that those things won't work, you have listened and retold numerous lies propagated by your party. If they've not even been ironed out yet, then they won't work as currently written. Remember, we're commenting on a proposed bill that *is* written. If it hasn't been 'ironed out' yet, why was it published? -- John H "If you think healthcare is expensive now, wait until it's free!" --Anonymous |
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Don White wrote:
"Guzzistimo" wrote in message ... On Sun, 23 Aug 2009 19:26:42 -0700, Jim wrote: Don White wrote: "Guzzistimo" wrote in message ... On Fri, 21 Aug 2009 09:07:13 -0300, "Don White" wrote: "Old Guzzisti" wrote in message ... On Fri, 21 Aug 2009 00:23:14 -0300, "Don White" wrote: "Old Guzzisti" wrote in message ... Let's get this straight... We're going to pass a health care plan -written by a committee whose head says he doesn't understand it, -passed by a Congress that hasn't read it but exempts themselves from it, -signed by a president that also hasn't read it and who smokes, -with funding administered by a treasury chief who didn't pay his taxes, -overseen by a surgeon general who is obese, and... -financed by a country that's nearly broke. What could possibly go wrong? -- John H. What do you care? You already 'have yours'........as long as Uncle Sam is operational. Just think, Donnie, if you'd applied yourself instead of waiting for handouts, you'd be in decent shape too. Now, just sit back and whine like 'wf2wh' or whatever. -- John H. Waiting for handouts?? I was never a member of the US Army..where higher commissions are bestowed on the longest lasting boot-licker. We know how you avoided military service Donnie. It's funny how those who 'were too smart to serve' (i.e., cowardly) have to put down the military to feel better about themselves. -- John H What are you blathering about? Up here it has been a volunteer military since the end of WW2........... same as it is down your way these days. In my day, the smart and privileged stayed out. Ask Dick Cheney how it worked. I thought Krause and Donnie were the resident experts at being smart enough to stay out. But, I'll add you to the list if you desire. -- John H Johnny...you're spazin' out again. I didn't say I was "smart enough to stay out" Most of my extended family did very well in our military. One cousins son is a bit messed up from a mideast tour (was supposed to be clerical on the base but ended up being gunner on an APC) Funniest exchange of the day...and you are right, herring has "spazed" out. Herring seems so proud of the fact that he was too stupid to avoid being drafted and shipped off to an idiotic war in SE Asia against a country and people that were no threat to us *until* we went after them. Our hero, John Herring, who went off to Vietnam and helped us lose a war. |
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On Mon, 24 Aug 2009 17:17:47 -0300, "Don White"
wrote: "Guzzistimo" wrote in message .. . On Sun, 23 Aug 2009 19:26:42 -0700, Jim wrote: Don White wrote: "Guzzistimo" wrote in message ... On Fri, 21 Aug 2009 09:07:13 -0300, "Don White" wrote: "Old Guzzisti" wrote in message ... On Fri, 21 Aug 2009 00:23:14 -0300, "Don White" wrote: "Old Guzzisti" wrote in message ... Let's get this straight... We're going to pass a health care plan -written by a committee whose head says he doesn't understand it, -passed by a Congress that hasn't read it but exempts themselves from it, -signed by a president that also hasn't read it and who smokes, -with funding administered by a treasury chief who didn't pay his taxes, -overseen by a surgeon general who is obese, and... -financed by a country that's nearly broke. What could possibly go wrong? -- John H. What do you care? You already 'have yours'........as long as Uncle Sam is operational. Just think, Donnie, if you'd applied yourself instead of waiting for handouts, you'd be in decent shape too. Now, just sit back and whine like 'wf2wh' or whatever. -- John H. Waiting for handouts?? I was never a member of the US Army..where higher commissions are bestowed on the longest lasting boot-licker. We know how you avoided military service Donnie. It's funny how those who 'were too smart to serve' (i.e., cowardly) have to put down the military to feel better about themselves. -- John H What are you blathering about? Up here it has been a volunteer military since the end of WW2........... same as it is down your way these days. In my day, the smart and privileged stayed out. Ask Dick Cheney how it worked. I thought Krause and Donnie were the resident experts at being smart enough to stay out. But, I'll add you to the list if you desire. -- John H Johnny...you're spazin' out again. I didn't say I was "smart enough to stay out" Most of my extended family did very well in our military. One cousins son is a bit messed up from a mideast tour (was supposed to be clerical on the base but ended up being gunner on an APC) Oh, OK. I guess it was Harry that was so smart. -- John H "If you think healthcare is expensive now, wait until it's free!" --Anonymous |
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Guzzistimo wrote:
On Mon, 24 Aug 2009 10:26:06 -0400, NotNow wrote: JustWait wrote: In article , says... On Fri, 21 Aug 2009 09:31:59 -0400, NotNow wrote: wf3h wrote: On Aug 20, 8:11 pm, Old Guzzisti wrote: Let's get this straight... We're going to pass a health care plan -written by a committee whose head says he doesn't understand it, we had 8 years of free market capitalism...and look at what it did for us it's time to get some benefits for the middle class instead of wallstreet. What could possibly go wrong? -- we could say no and continue to rely on the free market....that'd screw us good The hard core righties here don't think that Bush did anything wrong....ever. It's all some liberals fault. Ask them! I've mentioned several things I think Bush did wrong - including the way he handled the war in Iraq, spending money like a fool, allowing the Dems to have their way with TSC and TARP and a few other stupidities. If you've something specific, say it. You keep doing nothing but generalizing. Loog is stuck on this even though all of use have posted similar lists of mistakes and dirty repubs.. I am waiting for him to reciprocate, but I don't think it's gonna' happen.. I'm not stuck on anything! You and John, however ARE. You're stuck on anything Obama = bad. Hell you two are saying things won't work that haven't even been ironed out yet. You don't know that those things won't work, you have listened and retold numerous lies propagated by your party. If they've not even been ironed out yet, then they won't work as currently written. Remember, we're commenting on a proposed bill that *is* written. If it hasn't been 'ironed out' yet, why was it published? -- John H "If you think healthcare is expensive now, wait until it's free!" --Anonymous But you are commenting on lies!!!! |
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On Mon, 24 Aug 2009 17:12:14 -0400, NotNow wrote:
Guzzistimo wrote: On Mon, 24 Aug 2009 10:26:06 -0400, NotNow wrote: JustWait wrote: In article , says... On Fri, 21 Aug 2009 09:31:59 -0400, NotNow wrote: wf3h wrote: On Aug 20, 8:11 pm, Old Guzzisti wrote: Let's get this straight... We're going to pass a health care plan -written by a committee whose head says he doesn't understand it, we had 8 years of free market capitalism...and look at what it did for us it's time to get some benefits for the middle class instead of wallstreet. What could possibly go wrong? -- we could say no and continue to rely on the free market....that'd screw us good The hard core righties here don't think that Bush did anything wrong....ever. It's all some liberals fault. Ask them! I've mentioned several things I think Bush did wrong - including the way he handled the war in Iraq, spending money like a fool, allowing the Dems to have their way with TSC and TARP and a few other stupidities. If you've something specific, say it. You keep doing nothing but generalizing. Loog is stuck on this even though all of use have posted similar lists of mistakes and dirty repubs.. I am waiting for him to reciprocate, but I don't think it's gonna' happen.. I'm not stuck on anything! You and John, however ARE. You're stuck on anything Obama = bad. Hell you two are saying things won't work that haven't even been ironed out yet. You don't know that those things won't work, you have listened and retold numerous lies propagated by your party. If they've not even been ironed out yet, then they won't work as currently written. Remember, we're commenting on a proposed bill that *is* written. If it hasn't been 'ironed out' yet, why was it published? -- John H "If you think healthcare is expensive now, wait until it's free!" --Anonymous But you are commenting on lies!!!! Loogy, I've posted portions of the bill on which I've commented. Now you're telling me it's not 'ironed out' yet. Then why the hell was it published? What is going to change? -- John H "If you think healthcare is expensive now, wait until it's free!" --Anonymous |
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Guzzistimo wrote:
On Mon, 24 Aug 2009 17:12:14 -0400, NotNow wrote: Guzzistimo wrote: On Mon, 24 Aug 2009 10:26:06 -0400, NotNow wrote: JustWait wrote: In article , says... On Fri, 21 Aug 2009 09:31:59 -0400, NotNow wrote: wf3h wrote: On Aug 20, 8:11 pm, Old Guzzisti wrote: Let's get this straight... We're going to pass a health care plan -written by a committee whose head says he doesn't understand it, we had 8 years of free market capitalism...and look at what it did for us it's time to get some benefits for the middle class instead of wallstreet. What could possibly go wrong? -- we could say no and continue to rely on the free market....that'd screw us good The hard core righties here don't think that Bush did anything wrong....ever. It's all some liberals fault. Ask them! I've mentioned several things I think Bush did wrong - including the way he handled the war in Iraq, spending money like a fool, allowing the Dems to have their way with TSC and TARP and a few other stupidities. If you've something specific, say it. You keep doing nothing but generalizing. Loog is stuck on this even though all of use have posted similar lists of mistakes and dirty repubs.. I am waiting for him to reciprocate, but I don't think it's gonna' happen.. I'm not stuck on anything! You and John, however ARE. You're stuck on anything Obama = bad. Hell you two are saying things won't work that haven't even been ironed out yet. You don't know that those things won't work, you have listened and retold numerous lies propagated by your party. If they've not even been ironed out yet, then they won't work as currently written. Remember, we're commenting on a proposed bill that *is* written. If it hasn't been 'ironed out' yet, why was it published? -- John H "If you think healthcare is expensive now, wait until it's free!" --Anonymous But you are commenting on lies!!!! Loogy, I've posted portions of the bill on which I've commented. Now you're telling me it's not 'ironed out' yet. Then why the hell was it published? What is going to change? -- John H I don't know, it's not my bill. So where did you read in the bill about Obama wanting to kill the elderly and infirm? |
A Surefire Plan!
On Tue, 25 Aug 2009 08:49:36 -0400, NotNow wrote:
Guzzistimo wrote: On Mon, 24 Aug 2009 17:12:14 -0400, NotNow wrote: Guzzistimo wrote: On Mon, 24 Aug 2009 10:26:06 -0400, NotNow wrote: JustWait wrote: In article , says... On Fri, 21 Aug 2009 09:31:59 -0400, NotNow wrote: wf3h wrote: On Aug 20, 8:11 pm, Old Guzzisti wrote: Let's get this straight... We're going to pass a health care plan -written by a committee whose head says he doesn't understand it, we had 8 years of free market capitalism...and look at what it did for us it's time to get some benefits for the middle class instead of wallstreet. What could possibly go wrong? -- we could say no and continue to rely on the free market....that'd screw us good The hard core righties here don't think that Bush did anything wrong....ever. It's all some liberals fault. Ask them! I've mentioned several things I think Bush did wrong - including the way he handled the war in Iraq, spending money like a fool, allowing the Dems to have their way with TSC and TARP and a few other stupidities. If you've something specific, say it. You keep doing nothing but generalizing. Loog is stuck on this even though all of use have posted similar lists of mistakes and dirty repubs.. I am waiting for him to reciprocate, but I don't think it's gonna' happen.. I'm not stuck on anything! You and John, however ARE. You're stuck on anything Obama = bad. Hell you two are saying things won't work that haven't even been ironed out yet. You don't know that those things won't work, you have listened and retold numerous lies propagated by your party. If they've not even been ironed out yet, then they won't work as currently written. Remember, we're commenting on a proposed bill that *is* written. If it hasn't been 'ironed out' yet, why was it published? -- John H "If you think healthcare is expensive now, wait until it's free!" --Anonymous But you are commenting on lies!!!! Loogy, I've posted portions of the bill on which I've commented. Now you're telling me it's not 'ironed out' yet. Then why the hell was it published? What is going to change? -- John H I don't know, it's not my bill. So where did you read in the bill about Obama wanting to kill the elderly and infirm? Well, if you don't know, why do you say it's still to be 'ironed out'? Why was the bill published if it's still to be 'ironed out'? I didn't read that Obama wanted to kill anyone. What made you think I had? -- John H "If you think healthcare is expensive now, wait until it's free!" --Anonymous |
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says... On Tue, 25 Aug 2009 08:49:36 -0400, NotNow wrote: Guzzistimo wrote: On Mon, 24 Aug 2009 17:12:14 -0400, NotNow wrote: Guzzistimo wrote: On Mon, 24 Aug 2009 10:26:06 -0400, NotNow wrote: JustWait wrote: In article , says... On Fri, 21 Aug 2009 09:31:59 -0400, NotNow wrote: wf3h wrote: On Aug 20, 8:11 pm, Old Guzzisti wrote: Let's get this straight... We're going to pass a health care plan -written by a committee whose head says he doesn't understand it, we had 8 years of free market capitalism...and look at what it did for us it's time to get some benefits for the middle class instead of wallstreet. What could possibly go wrong? -- we could say no and continue to rely on the free market....that'd screw us good The hard core righties here don't think that Bush did anything wrong....ever. It's all some liberals fault. Ask them! I've mentioned several things I think Bush did wrong - including the way he handled the war in Iraq, spending money like a fool, allowing the Dems to have their way with TSC and TARP and a few other stupidities. If you've something specific, say it. You keep doing nothing but generalizing. Loog is stuck on this even though all of use have posted similar lists of mistakes and dirty repubs.. I am waiting for him to reciprocate, but I don't think it's gonna' happen.. I'm not stuck on anything! You and John, however ARE. You're stuck on anything Obama = bad. Hell you two are saying things won't work that haven't even been ironed out yet. You don't know that those things won't work, you have listened and retold numerous lies propagated by your party. If they've not even been ironed out yet, then they won't work as currently written. Remember, we're commenting on a proposed bill that *is* written. If it hasn't been 'ironed out' yet, why was it published? -- John H "If you think healthcare is expensive now, wait until it's free!" --Anonymous But you are commenting on lies!!!! Loogy, I've posted portions of the bill on which I've commented. Now you're telling me it's not 'ironed out' yet. Then why the hell was it published? What is going to change? -- John H I don't know, it's not my bill. So where did you read in the bill about Obama wanting to kill the elderly and infirm? Well, if you don't know, why do you say it's still to be 'ironed out'? Why was the bill published if it's still to be 'ironed out'? I didn't read that Obama wanted to kill anyone. What made you think I had? The lies from MSNBC and the rest of the MSM making excuses and deflections.. -- Wafa free since 2009 |
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Mille GT Owner wrote:
On Tue, 25 Aug 2009 08:49:36 -0400, NotNow wrote: Guzzistimo wrote: On Mon, 24 Aug 2009 17:12:14 -0400, NotNow wrote: Guzzistimo wrote: On Mon, 24 Aug 2009 10:26:06 -0400, NotNow wrote: JustWait wrote: In article , says... On Fri, 21 Aug 2009 09:31:59 -0400, NotNow wrote: wf3h wrote: On Aug 20, 8:11 pm, Old Guzzisti wrote: Let's get this straight... We're going to pass a health care plan -written by a committee whose head says he doesn't understand it, we had 8 years of free market capitalism...and look at what it did for us it's time to get some benefits for the middle class instead of wallstreet. What could possibly go wrong? -- we could say no and continue to rely on the free market....that'd screw us good The hard core righties here don't think that Bush did anything wrong....ever. It's all some liberals fault. Ask them! I've mentioned several things I think Bush did wrong - including the way he handled the war in Iraq, spending money like a fool, allowing the Dems to have their way with TSC and TARP and a few other stupidities. If you've something specific, say it. You keep doing nothing but generalizing. Loog is stuck on this even though all of use have posted similar lists of mistakes and dirty repubs.. I am waiting for him to reciprocate, but I don't think it's gonna' happen.. I'm not stuck on anything! You and John, however ARE. You're stuck on anything Obama = bad. Hell you two are saying things won't work that haven't even been ironed out yet. You don't know that those things won't work, you have listened and retold numerous lies propagated by your party. If they've not even been ironed out yet, then they won't work as currently written. Remember, we're commenting on a proposed bill that *is* written. If it hasn't been 'ironed out' yet, why was it published? -- John H "If you think healthcare is expensive now, wait until it's free!" --Anonymous But you are commenting on lies!!!! Loogy, I've posted portions of the bill on which I've commented. Now you're telling me it's not 'ironed out' yet. Then why the hell was it published? What is going to change? -- John H I don't know, it's not my bill. So where did you read in the bill about Obama wanting to kill the elderly and infirm? Well, if you don't know, why do you say it's still to be 'ironed out'? Why was the bill published if it's still to be 'ironed out'? I didn't read that Obama wanted to kill anyone. What made you think I had? -- John H "If you think healthcare is expensive now, wait until it's free!" --Anonymous Because you've said right here in rec.boats that the bill is a way to kill off the elderly instead of caring for them, thus freeing up money to use for other healthcare. So where is that in the bill? Oh, I remember, most conservatives parse giving end of life advice, such as living will education, etc. as wanting them dead....forgot. |
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On Wed, 26 Aug 2009 09:04:10 -0400, NotNow wrote:
Mille GT Owner wrote: On Tue, 25 Aug 2009 08:49:36 -0400, NotNow wrote: Guzzistimo wrote: On Mon, 24 Aug 2009 17:12:14 -0400, NotNow wrote: Guzzistimo wrote: On Mon, 24 Aug 2009 10:26:06 -0400, NotNow wrote: JustWait wrote: In article , says... On Fri, 21 Aug 2009 09:31:59 -0400, NotNow wrote: wf3h wrote: On Aug 20, 8:11 pm, Old Guzzisti wrote: Let's get this straight... We're going to pass a health care plan -written by a committee whose head says he doesn't understand it, we had 8 years of free market capitalism...and look at what it did for us it's time to get some benefits for the middle class instead of wallstreet. What could possibly go wrong? -- we could say no and continue to rely on the free market....that'd screw us good The hard core righties here don't think that Bush did anything wrong....ever. It's all some liberals fault. Ask them! I've mentioned several things I think Bush did wrong - including the way he handled the war in Iraq, spending money like a fool, allowing the Dems to have their way with TSC and TARP and a few other stupidities. If you've something specific, say it. You keep doing nothing but generalizing. Loog is stuck on this even though all of use have posted similar lists of mistakes and dirty repubs.. I am waiting for him to reciprocate, but I don't think it's gonna' happen.. I'm not stuck on anything! You and John, however ARE. You're stuck on anything Obama = bad. Hell you two are saying things won't work that haven't even been ironed out yet. You don't know that those things won't work, you have listened and retold numerous lies propagated by your party. If they've not even been ironed out yet, then they won't work as currently written. Remember, we're commenting on a proposed bill that *is* written. If it hasn't been 'ironed out' yet, why was it published? -- John H "If you think healthcare is expensive now, wait until it's free!" --Anonymous But you are commenting on lies!!!! Loogy, I've posted portions of the bill on which I've commented. Now you're telling me it's not 'ironed out' yet. Then why the hell was it published? What is going to change? -- John H I don't know, it's not my bill. So where did you read in the bill about Obama wanting to kill the elderly and infirm? Well, if you don't know, why do you say it's still to be 'ironed out'? Why was the bill published if it's still to be 'ironed out'? I didn't read that Obama wanted to kill anyone. What made you think I had? -- John H "If you think healthcare is expensive now, wait until it's free!" --Anonymous Because you've said right here in rec.boats that the bill is a way to kill off the elderly instead of caring for them, thus freeing up money to use for other healthcare. So where is that in the bill? Oh, I remember, most conservatives parse giving end of life advice, such as living will education, etc. as wanting them dead....forgot. Show me, or admit you just lied. -- John H "If you think healthcare is expensive now, wait until it's free!" --Anonymous |
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U-joint Buster wrote:
On Wed, 26 Aug 2009 09:04:10 -0400, NotNow wrote: Mille GT Owner wrote: On Tue, 25 Aug 2009 08:49:36 -0400, NotNow wrote: Guzzistimo wrote: On Mon, 24 Aug 2009 17:12:14 -0400, NotNow wrote: Guzzistimo wrote: On Mon, 24 Aug 2009 10:26:06 -0400, NotNow wrote: JustWait wrote: In article , says... On Fri, 21 Aug 2009 09:31:59 -0400, NotNow wrote: wf3h wrote: On Aug 20, 8:11 pm, Old Guzzisti wrote: Let's get this straight... We're going to pass a health care plan -written by a committee whose head says he doesn't understand it, we had 8 years of free market capitalism...and look at what it did for us it's time to get some benefits for the middle class instead of wallstreet. What could possibly go wrong? -- we could say no and continue to rely on the free market....that'd screw us good The hard core righties here don't think that Bush did anything wrong....ever. It's all some liberals fault. Ask them! I've mentioned several things I think Bush did wrong - including the way he handled the war in Iraq, spending money like a fool, allowing the Dems to have their way with TSC and TARP and a few other stupidities. If you've something specific, say it. You keep doing nothing but generalizing. Loog is stuck on this even though all of use have posted similar lists of mistakes and dirty repubs.. I am waiting for him to reciprocate, but I don't think it's gonna' happen.. I'm not stuck on anything! You and John, however ARE. You're stuck on anything Obama = bad. Hell you two are saying things won't work that haven't even been ironed out yet. You don't know that those things won't work, you have listened and retold numerous lies propagated by your party. If they've not even been ironed out yet, then they won't work as currently written. Remember, we're commenting on a proposed bill that *is* written. If it hasn't been 'ironed out' yet, why was it published? -- John H "If you think healthcare is expensive now, wait until it's free!" --Anonymous But you are commenting on lies!!!! Loogy, I've posted portions of the bill on which I've commented. Now you're telling me it's not 'ironed out' yet. Then why the hell was it published? What is going to change? -- John H I don't know, it's not my bill. So where did you read in the bill about Obama wanting to kill the elderly and infirm? Well, if you don't know, why do you say it's still to be 'ironed out'? Why was the bill published if it's still to be 'ironed out'? I didn't read that Obama wanted to kill anyone. What made you think I had? -- John H "If you think healthcare is expensive now, wait until it's free!" --Anonymous Because you've said right here in rec.boats that the bill is a way to kill off the elderly instead of caring for them, thus freeing up money to use for other healthcare. So where is that in the bill? Oh, I remember, most conservatives parse giving end of life advice, such as living will education, etc. as wanting them dead....forgot. Show me, or admit you just lied. -- John H "If you think healthcare is expensive now, wait until it's free!" --Anonymous Sure thing. Here's the conservsation Scotty and I were having, as he was saying that Oregon pays for the meds to kill off the elderly. I asked if he thought that because Oregon does it, that that's what Obama wants. You can read your reply yourself. The model is already being set in Oregon. A man whit Hepatitis was turned down for treatment but sent a letter suggesting that the state would help him pay for "end of life" meds to end well, his life... That is not a lie, it is an example of how far left medical coverage works... So are you really saying that because Oregon did something that that is what will be in the final bill that Obama is proposing? Really? Absolutely, if Obama had his way. Thank God there are some Republicans with enough balls to go against the liberal agenda. Then you said this: "help the elderly meet a timely death".... "Be a devout Christian, kill babies, help the elderly meet a 'timely' death, enlarge government as much as possible, allow the 15 million illegals in this country to fast track to citizenship......." There's more, if you wouldn't change your |
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On Thu, 27 Aug 2009 09:25:34 -0400, NotNow wrote:
U-joint Buster wrote: On Wed, 26 Aug 2009 09:04:10 -0400, NotNow wrote: Mille GT Owner wrote: On Tue, 25 Aug 2009 08:49:36 -0400, NotNow wrote: Guzzistimo wrote: On Mon, 24 Aug 2009 17:12:14 -0400, NotNow wrote: Guzzistimo wrote: On Mon, 24 Aug 2009 10:26:06 -0400, NotNow wrote: JustWait wrote: In article , says... On Fri, 21 Aug 2009 09:31:59 -0400, NotNow wrote: wf3h wrote: On Aug 20, 8:11 pm, Old Guzzisti wrote: Let's get this straight... We're going to pass a health care plan -written by a committee whose head says he doesn't understand it, we had 8 years of free market capitalism...and look at what it did for us it's time to get some benefits for the middle class instead of wallstreet. What could possibly go wrong? -- we could say no and continue to rely on the free market....that'd screw us good The hard core righties here don't think that Bush did anything wrong....ever. It's all some liberals fault. Ask them! I've mentioned several things I think Bush did wrong - including the way he handled the war in Iraq, spending money like a fool, allowing the Dems to have their way with TSC and TARP and a few other stupidities. If you've something specific, say it. You keep doing nothing but generalizing. Loog is stuck on this even though all of use have posted similar lists of mistakes and dirty repubs.. I am waiting for him to reciprocate, but I don't think it's gonna' happen.. I'm not stuck on anything! You and John, however ARE. You're stuck on anything Obama = bad. Hell you two are saying things won't work that haven't even been ironed out yet. You don't know that those things won't work, you have listened and retold numerous lies propagated by your party. If they've not even been ironed out yet, then they won't work as currently written. Remember, we're commenting on a proposed bill that *is* written. If it hasn't been 'ironed out' yet, why was it published? -- John H "If you think healthcare is expensive now, wait until it's free!" --Anonymous But you are commenting on lies!!!! Loogy, I've posted portions of the bill on which I've commented. Now you're telling me it's not 'ironed out' yet. Then why the hell was it published? What is going to change? -- John H I don't know, it's not my bill. So where did you read in the bill about Obama wanting to kill the elderly and infirm? Well, if you don't know, why do you say it's still to be 'ironed out'? Why was the bill published if it's still to be 'ironed out'? I didn't read that Obama wanted to kill anyone. What made you think I had? -- John H "If you think healthcare is expensive now, wait until it's free!" --Anonymous Because you've said right here in rec.boats that the bill is a way to kill off the elderly instead of caring for them, thus freeing up money to use for other healthcare. So where is that in the bill? Oh, I remember, most conservatives parse giving end of life advice, such as living will education, etc. as wanting them dead....forgot. Show me, or admit you just lied. -- John H "If you think healthcare is expensive now, wait until it's free!" --Anonymous Sure thing. Here's the conservsation Scotty and I were having, as he was saying that Oregon pays for the meds to kill off the elderly. I asked if he thought that because Oregon does it, that that's what Obama wants. You can read your reply yourself. The model is already being set in Oregon. A man whit Hepatitis was turned down for treatment but sent a letter suggesting that the state would help him pay for "end of life" meds to end well, his life... That is not a lie, it is an example of how far left medical coverage works... So are you really saying that because Oregon did something that that is what will be in the final bill that Obama is proposing? Really? Absolutely, if Obama had his way. Thank God there are some Republicans with enough balls to go against the liberal agenda. Then you said this: "help the elderly meet a timely death".... "Be a devout Christian, kill babies, help the elderly meet a 'timely' death, enlarge government as much as possible, allow the 15 million illegals in this country to fast track to citizenship......." There's more, if you wouldn't change your ????? Where did I say, "The bill is a way to kill off the elderly"? So far you've not shown me. To take a sentence and *your* interpretation is not showing anything. In other words, your statement is bull****, and a lie. -- John H "The democracy will cease to exist when you take away from those who are willing to work and give to those who would not." Thomas Jefferson |
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JLH wrote:
On Thu, 27 Aug 2009 09:25:34 -0400, NotNow wrote: U-joint Buster wrote: On Wed, 26 Aug 2009 09:04:10 -0400, NotNow wrote: Mille GT Owner wrote: On Tue, 25 Aug 2009 08:49:36 -0400, NotNow wrote: Guzzistimo wrote: On Mon, 24 Aug 2009 17:12:14 -0400, NotNow wrote: Guzzistimo wrote: On Mon, 24 Aug 2009 10:26:06 -0400, NotNow wrote: JustWait wrote: In article , says... On Fri, 21 Aug 2009 09:31:59 -0400, NotNow wrote: wf3h wrote: On Aug 20, 8:11 pm, Old Guzzisti wrote: Let's get this straight... We're going to pass a health care plan -written by a committee whose head says he doesn't understand it, we had 8 years of free market capitalism...and look at what it did for us it's time to get some benefits for the middle class instead of wallstreet. What could possibly go wrong? -- we could say no and continue to rely on the free market....that'd screw us good The hard core righties here don't think that Bush did anything wrong....ever. It's all some liberals fault. Ask them! I've mentioned several things I think Bush did wrong - including the way he handled the war in Iraq, spending money like a fool, allowing the Dems to have their way with TSC and TARP and a few other stupidities. If you've something specific, say it. You keep doing nothing but generalizing. Loog is stuck on this even though all of use have posted similar lists of mistakes and dirty repubs.. I am waiting for him to reciprocate, but I don't think it's gonna' happen.. I'm not stuck on anything! You and John, however ARE. You're stuck on anything Obama = bad. Hell you two are saying things won't work that haven't even been ironed out yet. You don't know that those things won't work, you have listened and retold numerous lies propagated by your party. If they've not even been ironed out yet, then they won't work as currently written. Remember, we're commenting on a proposed bill that *is* written. If it hasn't been 'ironed out' yet, why was it published? -- John H "If you think healthcare is expensive now, wait until it's free!" --Anonymous But you are commenting on lies!!!! Loogy, I've posted portions of the bill on which I've commented. Now you're telling me it's not 'ironed out' yet. Then why the hell was it published? What is going to change? -- John H I don't know, it's not my bill. So where did you read in the bill about Obama wanting to kill the elderly and infirm? Well, if you don't know, why do you say it's still to be 'ironed out'? Why was the bill published if it's still to be 'ironed out'? I didn't read that Obama wanted to kill anyone. What made you think I had? -- John H "If you think healthcare is expensive now, wait until it's free!" --Anonymous Because you've said right here in rec.boats that the bill is a way to kill off the elderly instead of caring for them, thus freeing up money to use for other healthcare. So where is that in the bill? Oh, I remember, most conservatives parse giving end of life advice, such as living will education, etc. as wanting them dead....forgot. Show me, or admit you just lied. -- John H "If you think healthcare is expensive now, wait until it's free!" --Anonymous Sure thing. Here's the conservsation Scotty and I were having, as he was saying that Oregon pays for the meds to kill off the elderly. I asked if he thought that because Oregon does it, that that's what Obama wants. You can read your reply yourself. The model is already being set in Oregon. A man whit Hepatitis was turned down for treatment but sent a letter suggesting that the state would help him pay for "end of life" meds to end well, his life... That is not a lie, it is an example of how far left medical coverage works... So are you really saying that because Oregon did something that that is what will be in the final bill that Obama is proposing? Really? Absolutely, if Obama had his way. Thank God there are some Republicans with enough balls to go against the liberal agenda. Then you said this: "help the elderly meet a timely death".... "Be a devout Christian, kill babies, help the elderly meet a 'timely' death, enlarge government as much as possible, allow the 15 million illegals in this country to fast track to citizenship......." There's more, if you wouldn't change your ????? Where did I say, "The bill is a way to kill off the elderly"? What would you say that the words "help elderly meet a timely DEATH" would mean? So far you've not shown me. To take a sentence and *your* interpretation is not showing anything. See above. In other words, your statement is bull****, and a lie. No, it's not. -- John H You're getting so much like Harry that you choose your words to thinly veil your beliefs so that you can refute them at anytime. Call me a liar any time you want. |
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