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wf3h August 21st 09 12:26 PM

PAGING DR. OBAMA! ER STAT!
 
On Aug 21, 7:05*am, thunder wrote:
On Fri, 21 Aug 2009 06:37:33 -0400, Guzzistimo wrote:
Try reading.


http://online.wsj.com/article/


SB10001424052970204251404574342170072865070.html



Then come back and argue against his points.


"Recent scientific and medical evidence shows that a diet consisting of
foods that are plant-based, nutrient dense and low-fat will help prevent
and often reverse most degenerative diseases that kill us and are
expensive to treat. We should be able to live largely disease-free lives
until we are well into our 90s and even past 100 years of age."


IOW buy my products, continue to make me rich and everything's gonna
be OK...



Yeah, right. *We don't need any health care reform. *Hell, we don't even
need any health care. *Just buy all your food from John Mackey, and
you'll live disease free past 100. *His eight reforms, might help to
alleviate some of the spiraling costs, but they are a little short on
addressing the issues at hand. *We are way beyond cost cutting measures
alone.



yep. he's got his fantasies and 'guzz' thinks we should just believe
'em and shut up. no reform needed.


Guzzistimo August 21st 09 02:07 PM

PAGING DR. OBAMA! ER STAT!
 
On Fri, 21 Aug 2009 06:05:12 -0500, thunder
wrote:

On Fri, 21 Aug 2009 06:37:33 -0400, Guzzistimo wrote:


Try reading.

http://online.wsj.com/article/

SB10001424052970204251404574342170072865070.htm l

Then come back and argue against his points.


"Recent scientific and medical evidence shows that a diet consisting of
foods that are plant-based, nutrient dense and low-fat will help prevent
and often reverse most degenerative diseases that kill us and are
expensive to treat. We should be able to live largely disease-free lives
until we are well into our 90s and even past 100 years of age."

Yeah, right. We don't need any health care reform. Hell, we don't even
need any health care. Just buy all your food from John Mackey, and
you'll live disease free past 100. His eight reforms, might help to
alleviate some of the spiraling costs, but they are a little short on
addressing the issues at hand. We are way beyond cost cutting measures
alone.


Can't refute his ideas, huh? Like the rest of the liberals, attack
something else.
--

John H

"My reading of history convinces me that most bad government
results from too much government."

Thomas Jefferson

Guzzistimo August 21st 09 02:08 PM

PAGING DR. OBAMA! ER STAT!
 
On Fri, 21 Aug 2009 04:24:58 -0700 (PDT), wf3h
wrote:

On Aug 21, 6:37*am, Guzzistimo wrote:
On Fri, 21 Aug 2009 03:30:08 -0700 (PDT), wf3h
wrote:

On Aug 20, 11:45*pm, "SteveB" wrote:


Well, if this thing is approved, let's just keep count of how many five way
bypasses and aortic valve replacements there are. *Nothing like reality to
keep things straight. *My heart surgery was near $200k. *I doubt that would
have been covered under Obama.


and if you lost your job and had no health insurance


would it have been covered then?


Try reading.

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB1000...57434217007286...

Then come back and argue against his points.

You'd rather whine.
--



try getting health insurance without a job. then come back and whine
that the rich are being treated unfairly.


Against which of his points are you arguing?

Or, are you just whining again. Holy ****, don't you get tired of
listening to yourself?
--

John H

"My reading of history convinces me that most bad government
results from too much government."

Thomas Jefferson

Guzzistimo August 21st 09 02:15 PM

PAGING DR. OBAMA! ER STAT!
 
On Fri, 21 Aug 2009 04:26:17 -0700 (PDT), wf3h
wrote:

On Aug 21, 7:05*am, thunder wrote:
On Fri, 21 Aug 2009 06:37:33 -0400, Guzzistimo wrote:
Try reading.


http://online.wsj.com/article/


SB10001424052970204251404574342170072865070.html



Then come back and argue against his points.


"Recent scientific and medical evidence shows that a diet consisting of
foods that are plant-based, nutrient dense and low-fat will help prevent
and often reverse most degenerative diseases that kill us and are
expensive to treat. We should be able to live largely disease-free lives
until we are well into our 90s and even past 100 years of age."


IOW buy my products, continue to make me rich and everything's gonna
be OK...



Yeah, right. *We don't need any health care reform. *Hell, we don't even
need any health care. *Just buy all your food from John Mackey, and
you'll live disease free past 100. *His eight reforms, might help to
alleviate some of the spiraling costs, but they are a little short on
addressing the issues at hand. *We are way beyond cost cutting measures
alone.



yep. he's got his fantasies and 'guzz' thinks we should just believe
'em and shut up. no reform needed.


He's not the only one selling plant-based, nutrient dense, low-fat
foods. Every grocery store sells them. Of course, in a socialist
state, that stuff would be hard to find.

I visited East Berlin before the walls came down. I watched people
lined up to buy a loaf of bread, or a couple of potatoes. I went into
the stores which had fancy optics and cameras in the windows, only to
see empty shelves on the inside.

There were two classes, the rulers and everyone else. You'd love it.
No middle class to whine about. Everyone in the same boat, unless you
were a ruler, of course.

Shove your socialism up your ass, along with your friggin' whining.
--

John H

"My reading of history convinces me that most bad government
results from too much government."

Thomas Jefferson

NotNow[_3_] August 21st 09 02:36 PM

PAGING DR. OBAMA! ER STAT!
 
JustWait wrote:
In article ,
says...
"Jim" wrote in message
m...
SteveB wrote:
"Jim" wrote in message
m...
SteveB wrote:
Gotta love it.

Obama says prostate cancer can be diagnosed by more colonoscopies.
NOT.

Obama says that instead of giving a 100 year old active person a
pacemaker, they should give her a pain pill. (Psssssssst. Pain pills
don't work on irregular heartbeats.)

He sez we need to do a breathalyzer on a child asthma patient.

Lots more, but I'm busy right now.

Steve
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pALCdJ5QuXs

Make fun of a small inconsistency if you must. Both are easily treated
if caught early by a relatively simple test.

I agree with the sentiment. The guy with the ketch next door just had
colorectal cancer surgery. He was one of those who wouldn't get a
colonoscopy.

We have several self employed dock walker types around here who aren't
going to get tested because they have no insurance. And we will pay if
and when they get sick.

To his critics, Obama must say everything perfectly and in the proper
order. They probably weren't critical of Bush's mangling of his
speeches.
Bush was actually worse than Obama in many speeches.

Steve
Not to mention lying in almost everyone of them, and starting a war on
false pretenses and not having a plan to pay for it.

C'mon, man. You're like a hippie stuck in the sixties. Or, do you want to
go back and talk about Eisenhower and Nixon? I mean, they're relative to
today's situation, but speed up a little and come into the present tense.

Hmmmmmm. Starting a war and not having a plan to pay for it ..............
Sounds like starting a Utopian nation and not having a plan to pay for it.

Both ideas are ludicrous.

Steve


Yeah, when I asked yesterday to see violent opposition to Health Care
where folks are driving speakers off the stage and down the street like
the protests against republicans and the minutemen in the last few
years.. I got back a couple links from my bud Loogie, one of them going
back to the Nixon Administration... Guess Grandma really didn't bring a
nazi sign or brandish a weapon or force any speakers to leave the
building without having a say.. It just blows me away how ****ed off the
left is about folks speaking their minds, but never said anything about
the violent protests I noted before. The other thing that gets me is
their opposition is so vapid, they can't even accept that someone else
can honestly have a different point of view... The consider anybody who
has a different point of view, to be a lesser human intelligence..
Reminds me a lot of the KKK clowns I met in 'Bama... You were either
with them, or inferior...


Pssst, Scotty, YOU were the one who suddenly put in the qualifier of
"violence". So I guess to you, anything anybody does at a town hall
meeting, as long as it doesn't include physical violence is okay? You
really think that it's civil and mannerly to take AK's to a town hall
event where the president is? Hell, even gas bags like Hannity and Rush
are saying that was wrong.

NotNow[_3_] August 21st 09 02:37 PM

PAGING DR. OBAMA! ER STAT!
 
JustWait wrote:
In article ,
says...
SteveB wrote:
"Jim" wrote in message
m...
SteveB wrote:
"Jim" wrote in message
m...
SteveB wrote:
Gotta love it.

Obama says prostate cancer can be diagnosed by more colonoscopies.
NOT.

Obama says that instead of giving a 100 year old active person a
pacemaker, they should give her a pain pill. (Psssssssst. Pain pills
don't work on irregular heartbeats.)

He sez we need to do a breathalyzer on a child asthma patient.

Lots more, but I'm busy right now.

Steve
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pALCdJ5QuXs

Make fun of a small inconsistency if you must. Both are easily treated
if caught early by a relatively simple test.

I agree with the sentiment. The guy with the ketch next door just had
colorectal cancer surgery. He was one of those who wouldn't get a
colonoscopy.

We have several self employed dock walker types around here who aren't
going to get tested because they have no insurance. And we will pay if
and when they get sick.

To his critics, Obama must say everything perfectly and in the proper
order. They probably weren't critical of Bush's mangling of his
speeches.
Bush was actually worse than Obama in many speeches.

Steve
Not to mention lying in almost everyone of them, and starting a war on
false pretenses and not having a plan to pay for it.
C'mon, man. You're like a hippie stuck in the sixties. Or, do you want to
go back and talk about Eisenhower and Nixon? I mean, they're relative to
today's situation, but speed up a little and come into the present tense.

Hmmmmmm. Starting a war and not having a plan to pay for it ..............
Sounds like starting a Utopian nation and not having a plan to pay for it.

Both ideas are ludicrous.

Steve


One of the arguments is "How is Obama going to pay for health care?"
But the same people never seem to care that the Iraq war was not paid for.


Well, it was paid for, as much as the Government pays for anything..
What threw it off was the 4 dollar gas and forced low score/no score
home loans... Several "folks" tried to head off both issues, but were
filibustered at every turn...

What???? Are you saying that if gas didn't go to four bucks a gallon
that the cost of the Iraq war would have somehow disappeared???

Lu Powell[_8_] August 21st 09 03:34 PM

PAGING DR. OBAMA! ER STAT!
 

"wf3h" wrote in message
...
On Aug 21, 7:05 am, thunder wrote:
On Fri, 21 Aug 2009 06:37:33 -0400, Guzzistimo wrote:
Try reading.


http://online.wsj.com/article/


SB10001424052970204251404574342170072865070.html



Then come back and argue against his points.


"Recent scientific and medical evidence shows that a diet consisting of
foods that are plant-based, nutrient dense and low-fat will help prevent
and often reverse most degenerative diseases that kill us and are
expensive to treat. We should be able to live largely disease-free lives
until we are well into our 90s and even past 100 years of age."


IOW buy my products, continue to make me rich and everything's gonna
be OK...



Yeah, right. We don't need any health care reform. Hell, we don't even
need any health care. Just buy all your food from John Mackey, and
you'll live disease free past 100. His eight reforms, might help to
alleviate some of the spiraling costs, but they are a little short on
addressing the issues at hand. We are way beyond cost cutting measures
alone.



yep. he's got his fantasies and 'guzz' thinks we should just believe
'em and shut up. no reform needed.

---------------------------------

Having made a nice fortune, he now gets paid $1.00 a year, and distributes
earnings from stock options to needy causes. What do you loony lefties
contribute of your own money?

Ten per cent of my meager earnings goes to charity.



thunder August 21st 09 03:34 PM

PAGING DR. OBAMA! ER STAT!
 
On Fri, 21 Aug 2009 09:07:19 -0400, Guzzistimo wrote:


Can't refute his ideas, huh? Like the rest of the liberals, attack
something else.


His ideas? Those ideas have been around for years.

• Repeal all state laws which prevent insurance companies from competing
across state lines.
I believe John McCain was running on this last election. If you remember
banks were under the same restrictions until relatively recently. How
did that work out? More competition or less? Around here, the local
community banks were gobbled up, and we were left with a few "too big to
fail" types.

• Repeal government mandates regarding what insurance companies must
cover. Translation, give me your money, we ain't covering squat.

• Enact tort reform to end the ruinous lawsuits that force doctors to pay
insurance costs of hundreds of thousands of dollars per year. Canard,
malpractice settlements add less that 1% to the cost of health care.


• Equalize the tax laws so that employer-provided health insurance and
individually owned health insurance have the same tax benefits. A better
question, why the corporate welfare in the first place?

• Enact Medicare reform. Gee, that's helpful. How? Look at the vitriol
about health care reform, something everyone knows is needed. Now this
guy wants to **** off all the seniors? Yeah, that will work.

• Finally, revise tax forms to make it easier for individuals to make a
voluntary, tax-deductible donation to help the millions of people who
have no insurance and aren't covered by Medicare, Medicaid or the State
Children's Health Insurance Program. Tinkle down, I mean trickle down at
it's finest. We were talking health care reform. This guy is out to
lunch. Obviously, too much tofu.



H the K[_2_] August 21st 09 03:40 PM

PAGING DR. OBAMA! ER STAT!
 
thunder wrote:
On Fri, 21 Aug 2009 09:07:19 -0400, Guzzistimo wrote:


Can't refute his ideas, huh? Like the rest of the liberals, attack
something else.


His ideas? Those ideas have been around for years.

• Repeal all state laws which prevent insurance companies from competing
across state lines.
I believe John McCain was running on this last election. If you remember
banks were under the same restrictions until relatively recently. How
did that work out? More competition or less? Around here, the local
community banks were gobbled up, and we were left with a few "too big to
fail" types.

• Repeal government mandates regarding what insurance companies must
cover. Translation, give me your money, we ain't covering squat.

• Enact tort reform to end the ruinous lawsuits that force doctors to pay
insurance costs of hundreds of thousands of dollars per year. Canard,
malpractice settlements add less that 1% to the cost of health care.


• Equalize the tax laws so that employer-provided health insurance and
individually owned health insurance have the same tax benefits. A better
question, why the corporate welfare in the first place?

• Enact Medicare reform. Gee, that's helpful. How? Look at the vitriol
about health care reform, something everyone knows is needed. Now this
guy wants to **** off all the seniors? Yeah, that will work.

• Finally, revise tax forms to make it easier for individuals to make a
voluntary, tax-deductible donation to help the millions of people who
have no insurance and aren't covered by Medicare, Medicaid or the State
Children's Health Insurance Program. Tinkle down, I mean trickle down at
it's finest. We were talking health care reform. This guy is out to
lunch. Obviously, too much tofu.




Herring has federal health care. Suggestion: take that away from him,
and give it to a needy family.

Lu Powell[_8_] August 21st 09 03:44 PM

PAGING DR. OBAMA! ER STAT!
 

"thunder" wrote in message
t...
On Fri, 21 Aug 2009 09:07:19 -0400, Guzzistimo wrote:


Can't refute his ideas, huh? Like the rest of the liberals, attack
something else.


His ideas? Those ideas have been around for years.

• Repeal all state laws which prevent insurance companies from competing
across state lines.
I believe John McCain was running on this last election. If you remember
banks were under the same restrictions until relatively recently. How
did that work out? More competition or less? Around here, the local
community banks were gobbled up, and we were left with a few "too big to
fail" types.

• Repeal government mandates regarding what insurance companies must
cover. Translation, give me your money, we ain't covering squat.

• Enact tort reform to end the ruinous lawsuits that force doctors to pay
insurance costs of hundreds of thousands of dollars per year. Canard,
malpractice settlements add less that 1% to the cost of health care.


• Equalize the tax laws so that employer-provided health insurance and
individually owned health insurance have the same tax benefits. A better
question, why the corporate welfare in the first place?

• Enact Medicare reform. Gee, that's helpful. How? Look at the vitriol
about health care reform, something everyone knows is needed. Now this
guy wants to **** off all the seniors? Yeah, that will work.

• Finally, revise tax forms to make it easier for individuals to make a
voluntary, tax-deductible donation to help the millions of people who
have no insurance and aren't covered by Medicare, Medicaid or the State
Children's Health Insurance Program. Tinkle down, I mean trickle down at
it's finest. We were talking health care reform. This guy is out to
lunch. Obviously, too much tofu.



And your proposal that would resolve the problems and make everyone whole
and happy is?



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