On Wed, 19 Aug 2009 12:24:28 -0700, jps wrote:

On Wed, 19 Aug 2009 14:00:37 -0500, wrote:

On Wed, 19 Aug 2009 08:31:14 -0700, jps wrote:


This is the face of modern American conservatism.

Congratulations America!


Dear God. This is the way America is now. Some conservative radio host
stages a "town hall" meeting in Las Vegas. The local news reports that
it "was a packed house, full of opinions and no shortage of passion."
How passionate? How does some dumb lady, yelling anti-Semitic slurs at
another man grab you?

Media Monitor Jon, who holds it down daily on YouTube at
NewsPoliticsNews, has the completely depressing clip, which shows an
Israeli man holding forth on the virtues of Israel's health care
system, which is "universal and compulsory, and is administered by a
small number of organizations with funding from the government." I
have no basis to judge its merits -- in 2000, the World Health
Organization ranked it as the 28th best in the world. That said, let
me sum up the countering argument, proferred by another town hall
attendee: "Heil Hitler!"

That's right! Some idiot woman yells "Heil Hitler" at a Jewish man who
was doing nothing more than being a passionate advocate for Israeli
health care. The man, quite naturally, goes completely apoplectic,
saying "Shame on you" over and over again. The woman counters by
saying, "Well, you ought to be the most against President Obama." The
poor man responds by saying, "I want to talk, not against Obama or for
Obama. I want to talk about [health care]." He goes on to describe his
own experiences with high-cost health care. For his efforts, the woman
mocks him some more!

As ThinkProgress points out today, "Conservatives have strenuously
denied that there is any anti-Semitism on display by anti-health
reform protesters at town hall meetings nationwide." Those denials are
no longer tenable, are they?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sHsUi...eature=channel

Another hasty generalization. Everyone is prone to positing the
occasional informal fallacy. The Left does it so well, though.

Please re-read your post.

Pot, giant pot, black. And blind to boot.

Do you live in a bum**** town surrounded by hicks?

I know you're in the fiancial services/insurance industry so it
doesn't surprise me that you hold these foggy views.

Yes, I did as you requested. I re-read my post, and I was struck by
the appreciable apercu. It is just as piquant as the incessant
drumbeat coming from the Left that insinuates, daily, that opposition
to comprehensive heath care reform as directed by the Obama
administration is, among other things, rooted in racism, a strawman
argument. It's as illustrative as your use of the circumstantial ad
hominem. I wonder if you can point to where you used your particular
fallacy or even if you're willing to do so.

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On Wed, 19 Aug 2009 12:40:23 -0700 (PDT), wf3h
wrote:

On Aug 19, 3:00*pm, wrote:


Another hasty generalization. *Everyone is prone to positing the
occasional informal fallacy. *The Left does it so well, though. *One
could say the Left is almost clinical in its employ of the "hasty
generalization," along with the other fallacies they have no scruples
about submitting. *Just watching Chris Matthews for one evening should
bring this fact to bear.


?? the right used to believe all blacks were inferior, women belonged
in the home, barefoot and pregnant....

and you're telling us about the failures of the left?

"...used to believe..."? Are you sure that you want to stay with this
choice of wording?

(Actually, I can construct your propaganda for you. I have some
experience in writing fiction. I charge by the hour, though.)

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wf3h wrote:
On Aug 19, 3:00 pm, wrote:

?? the right used to believe all blacks were inferior, women belonged
in the home, barefoot and pregnant....

and you're telling us about the failures of the left?


Used to believe?

When the Democrats finally refused to seat the racist all-white
delegations to their conventions in the early 1960s, the racists moved
en masse to the GOP, and their racist children are their inheritors.

Read up on the "southern strategy."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Southern_strategy

On Wed, 19 Aug 2009 15:54:32 -0400, H the K
wrote:

wf3h wrote:
On Aug 19, 3:00 pm, wrote:

?? the right used to believe all blacks were inferior, women belonged
in the home, barefoot and pregnant....

and you're telling us about the failures of the left?


Used to believe?

When the Democrats finally refused to seat the racist all-white
delegations to their conventions in the early 1960s, the racists moved
en masse to the GOP, and their racist children are their inheritors.

Read up on the "southern strategy."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Southern_strategy

My, how this brings back memories! It reminds me of the times I would
engage enraged progressives on Moorelies.com and buttress my arguments
with articles from wikipedia. Concordantly, my antagonists would
chide me for citing a source of such dubious quality. Those were the
days, weren't they? I do like the deft use of a particular qualifier
in the first sentence of the Southern Strategy article, "In American
politics, the Southern strategy refers to a purported Republican
method of winning Southern states..." "Purported," is such a robust
and appropriate word.

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On Wed, 19 Aug 2009 14:46:11 -0500, wrote:

On Wed, 19 Aug 2009 12:24:28 -0700, jps wrote:

On Wed, 19 Aug 2009 14:00:37 -0500, wrote:

On Wed, 19 Aug 2009 08:31:14 -0700, jps wrote:


This is the face of modern American conservatism.

Congratulations America!


Dear God. This is the way America is now. Some conservative radio host
stages a "town hall" meeting in Las Vegas. The local news reports that
it "was a packed house, full of opinions and no shortage of passion."
How passionate? How does some dumb lady, yelling anti-Semitic slurs at
another man grab you?

Media Monitor Jon, who holds it down daily on YouTube at
NewsPoliticsNews, has the completely depressing clip, which shows an
Israeli man holding forth on the virtues of Israel's health care
system, which is "universal and compulsory, and is administered by a
small number of organizations with funding from the government." I
have no basis to judge its merits -- in 2000, the World Health
Organization ranked it as the 28th best in the world. That said, let
me sum up the countering argument, proferred by another town hall
attendee: "Heil Hitler!"

That's right! Some idiot woman yells "Heil Hitler" at a Jewish man who
was doing nothing more than being a passionate advocate for Israeli
health care. The man, quite naturally, goes completely apoplectic,
saying "Shame on you" over and over again. The woman counters by
saying, "Well, you ought to be the most against President Obama." The
poor man responds by saying, "I want to talk, not against Obama or for
Obama. I want to talk about [health care]." He goes on to describe his
own experiences with high-cost health care. For his efforts, the woman
mocks him some more!

As ThinkProgress points out today, "Conservatives have strenuously
denied that there is any anti-Semitism on display by anti-health
reform protesters at town hall meetings nationwide." Those denials are
no longer tenable, are they?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sHsUi...eature=channel

Another hasty generalization. Everyone is prone to positing the
occasional informal fallacy. The Left does it so well, though.

Please re-read your post.

Pot, giant pot, black. And blind to boot.

Do you live in a bum**** town surrounded by hicks?

I know you're in the fiancial services/insurance industry so it
doesn't surprise me that you hold these foggy views.

Yes, I did as you requested. I re-read my post, and I was struck by
the appreciable apercu. It is just as piquant as the incessant
drumbeat coming from the Left that insinuates, daily, that opposition
to comprehensive heath care reform as directed by the Obama
administration is, among other things, rooted in racism, a strawman
argument. It's as illustrative as your use of the circumstantial ad
hominem. I wonder if you can point to where you used your particular
fallacy or even if you're willing to do so.

Gobbledegook.

Does your body contort while composing these ponderous lines?

It made me laugh that you'd accuse leftists of hasty generalizations
while the whole world watches the idiots packing heat and unfounded
ideas to these town halls.

You immediately went on to say how well the "left" jumps to
conclusions without giving the right its fair due.

How utterly blind of you. You show no sense of context.

On Wed, 19 Aug 2009 14:45:03 -0700, jps wrote:

On Wed, 19 Aug 2009 14:46:11 -0500, wrote:

On Wed, 19 Aug 2009 12:24:28 -0700, jps wrote:

On Wed, 19 Aug 2009 14:00:37 -0500, wrote:

On Wed, 19 Aug 2009 08:31:14 -0700, jps wrote:


This is the face of modern American conservatism.

snipped for brevity

Do you live in a bum**** town surrounded by hicks?

I know you're in the fiancial services/insurance industry so it
doesn't surprise me that you hold these foggy views.

Yes, I did as you requested. I re-read my post, and I was struck by
the appreciable apercu. It is just as piquant as the incessant
drumbeat coming from the Left that insinuates, daily, that opposition
to comprehensive heath care reform as directed by the Obama
administration is, among other things, rooted in racism, a strawman
argument. It's as illustrative as your use of the circumstantial ad
hominem. I wonder if you can point to where you used your particular
fallacy or even if you're willing to do so.

Gobbledegook.

Does your body contort while composing these ponderous lines?

It made me laugh that you'd accuse leftists of hasty generalizations
while the whole world watches the idiots packing heat and unfounded
ideas to these town halls.

You immediately went on to say how well the "left" jumps to
conclusions without giving the right its fair due.


Ponderous lines? How ponderous is your sentence that iterates how I
state that the Left jumps to conclusions without giving the Right its
fair due? So is it that it is my contention that the Left is prone to
fallacy and that the Left doesn't take the Right to task for the
Right's own foibles? Or is it that I'm too willing to indict the Left
without examining also the flaws inherent in the Right? Or is it that
the occasional liberal can admirably dangle a participle?

How utterly blind of you. You show no sense of context.

I beg to differ.
You can redeem yourself by pointing out your own use of the
circumstantial ad hominem.

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Don White wrote:
"jps" wrote in message
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This is the face of modern American conservatism.

Congratulations America!


Dear God. This is the way America is now. Some conservative radio host
stages a "town hall" meeting in Las Vegas. The local news reports that
it "was a packed house, full of opinions and no shortage of passion."
How passionate? How does some dumb lady, yelling anti-Semitic slurs at
another man grab you?

Media Monitor Jon, who holds it down daily on YouTube at
NewsPoliticsNews, has the completely depressing clip, which shows an
Israeli man holding forth on the virtues of Israel's health care
system, which is "universal and compulsory, and is administered by a
small number of organizations with funding from the government." I
have no basis to judge its merits -- in 2000, the World Health
Organization ranked it as the 28th best in the world. That said, let
me sum up the countering argument, proferred by another town hall
attendee: "Heil Hitler!"

That's right! Some idiot woman yells "Heil Hitler" at a Jewish man who
was doing nothing more than being a passionate advocate for Israeli
health care. The man, quite naturally, goes completely apoplectic,
saying "Shame on you" over and over again. The woman counters by
saying, "Well, you ought to be the most against President Obama." The
poor man responds by saying, "I want to talk, not against Obama or for
Obama. I want to talk about [health care]." He goes on to describe his
own experiences with high-cost health care. For his efforts, the woman
mocks him some more!

As ThinkProgress points out today, "Conservatives have strenuously
denied that there is any anti-Semitism on display by anti-health
reform protesters at town hall meetings nationwide." Those denials are
no longer tenable, are they?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sHsUi...eature=channel

You have to wonder if that woman is related to one of the Dope Army yahoos
in here.



You do, dummy? Really?

On Aug 19, 3:54*pm, H the K wrote:
wf3h wrote:
On Aug 19, 3:00 pm, wrote:

?? the right used to believe all blacks were inferior, women belonged
in the home, barefoot and pregnant....

and you're telling us about the failures of the left?

Used to believe?


yeah, my mistake. the GOP has invented code words for homophobia,
misogyny, racism, but it's still the party of hate

On Wed, 19 Aug 2009 17:08:51 -0700 (PDT), wf3h
wrote:

On Aug 19, 3:54*pm, H the K wrote:
wf3h wrote:
On Aug 19, 3:00 pm, wrote:

?? the right used to believe all blacks were inferior, women belonged
in the home, barefoot and pregnant....

and you're telling us about the failures of the left?

Used to believe?


yeah, my mistake. the GOP has invented code words for homophobia,
misogyny, racism, but it's still the party of hate

Really, if you're going try your hand at fiction, at least hand it
over to an experienced propagandist.

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On Aug 19, 7:08*pm, wf3h wrote:
On Aug 19, 3:54*pm, H the K wrote:

wf3h wrote:
On Aug 19, 3:00 pm, wrote:

?? the right used to believe all blacks were inferior, women belonged
in the home, barefoot and pregnant....

and you're telling us about the failures of the left?

Used to believe?

yeah, my mistake. the GOP has invented code words for homophobia,
misogyny, racism, but it's still the party of hate

"invented code words??"


Like what?