wf3h wrote:
On Aug 19, 10:26 pm, JustWait wrote:

Yup, we are so glad that your party knows all of our motives and
thoughts, needs, and desires... Now maybe you can sit in a closed room
with the Unions and decide what we should all do with our lives, oh, and
of course our money.. Man, thank God you are so much smarter than the
rest of us...

as opposed to dick cheney hiding in a back room with the chairman of
exxon to figure out the energy policy of the US...and getting us into
a war over that very policy

Or Hillary Clinton hiding in the back room with Big health care plotting
the take over of 1/7 of the US economy. You seem to forget that the
Clinton's provided the template.

On Aug 20, 7:24*am, BAR wrote:
wf3h wrote:
On Aug 19, 9:38 pm, BAR wrote:
wf3h wrote:
On Aug 19, 6:41 pm, BAR wrote:
wf3h wrote:
ah. so he 'used it as a base'. what did he do? go to avis rent-a-
country?
Yes, he did go to rent-a-country.
christ you're dumber than i thought possible. and i really thought you
were stupid.
You still haven't said what our goal in Afghanistan is and why we are
there.-
you still haven't said why you favor surrender
I don't favor surrender, I am trying to understand why you are a
warmonger now that Obama is in office.

i am not a warmonger. i am trying to understand why you favor
surrender now that obama is in office

Yes you are a warmonger

yes you are a coward

On Aug 20, 7:25*am, BAR wrote:
wf3h wrote:
On Aug 19, 10:26 pm, JustWait wrote:

Yup, we are so glad that your party knows all of our motives and
thoughts, needs, and desires... Now maybe you can sit in a closed room
with the Unions and decide what we should all do with our lives, oh, and
of course our money.. Man, thank God you are so much smarter than the
rest of us...

as opposed to dick cheney hiding in a back room with the chairman of
exxon to figure out the energy policy of the US...and getting us into
a war over that very policy

Or Hillary Clinton hiding in the back room with Big health care plotting
the take over of 1/7 of the US economy. You seem to forget that the
Clinton's provided the template.

we need healthcare since the private sector has failed.

cheney's wholesale whoring of the economy to exxon is a different
matter. but i appreciate your view that exxon speaks ex cathedra.

wf3h wrote:
On Aug 20, 7:24 am, BAR wrote:
wf3h wrote:
On Aug 19, 9:38 pm, BAR wrote:
wf3h wrote:
On Aug 19, 6:41 pm, BAR wrote:
wf3h wrote:
ah. so he 'used it as a base'. what did he do? go to avis rent-a-
country?
Yes, he did go to rent-a-country.
christ you're dumber than i thought possible. and i really thought you
were stupid.
You still haven't said what our goal in Afghanistan is and why we are
there.-
you still haven't said why you favor surrender
I don't favor surrender, I am trying to understand why you are a
warmonger now that Obama is in office.
i am not a warmonger. i am trying to understand why you favor
surrender now that obama is in office
Yes you are a warmonger

yes you are a coward

Ok, if it makes you feel better you can believe anything you want.

But, it still doesn't relieve you of the fact that you are a warmonger
and an adherent of situational ethics.

wf3h wrote:
On Aug 20, 7:25 am, BAR wrote:
wf3h wrote:
On Aug 19, 10:26 pm, JustWait wrote:
Yup, we are so glad that your party knows all of our motives and
thoughts, needs, and desires... Now maybe you can sit in a closed room
with the Unions and decide what we should all do with our lives, oh, and
of course our money.. Man, thank God you are so much smarter than the
rest of us...
as opposed to dick cheney hiding in a back room with the chairman of
exxon to figure out the energy policy of the US...and getting us into
a war over that very policy
Or Hillary Clinton hiding in the back room with Big health care plotting
the take over of 1/7 of the US economy. You seem to forget that the
Clinton's provided the template.

we need healthcare since the private sector has failed.

The private sector hasn't failed. You can walk into any doctors office
and be seen. All you have to do is pull out your wallet and pay for the
services you receive.

Your problem is that you believe your health care should be subsidized
by someone else. You believe that if you want something and you don't
have the ability to pay for it you should be able to steal the money
from someone else to pay for it. You are not better than a thug on the
street who steals from people walking along the sidewalk.




cheney's wholesale whoring of the economy to exxon is a different
matter. but i appreciate your view that exxon speaks ex cathedra.

JustWait wrote:
In article ,
says...
JustWait wrote:
In article , says...
"wf3h" wrote in message
...
On Aug 19, 7:58 am, BAR wrote:
wf3h wrote:
On Aug 18, 9:22 pm, BAR wrote:
wf3h wrote:
On Aug 18, 6:08 pm, J i m wrote:
wf3h wrote:
go back to your fertilzer/fuel oil bombs.
How's the one's war in Afganistain going?
he's making progress in cleaning up bush's **** up
I thought that Afghanistan was the good war and Iraq was the bad war.
right. but bush was on the point of losing afghanistan because he's an
idiot
What is our goal in Afghanistan? What do we think we are going to
accomplish that no one else in recorded history has accomplished?
i'm guessing you think afghanistan has never been conquered.

and that is wrong.
The first question is certainly valid. The current administration has
answered this several times. The problem was lack of responsbility of
ownership of the original invasion. The previous administration didn't get
it right, because they didn't follow the well-established Powell doctrine,
not in Afganistan nor in Iraq, the latter being a war of choice vs. one of
necessity. We're paying the price for the neglect right now in both
places... the former for not really making the commitment (and a war for
which we had a lot of support and justification), the second for going there
in the first place (where we had practically no support and certainly no
justification).
... and he declared. "No sentence shall be written without a bumper
sticker phrase included.. And thus, it was so, and responsible debate
was summarily dismissed.....

Responsible debate? Do you mean like going to town hall meetings with AK's?
Or do you mean responsible debate like conservatives never, ever do
anything wrong, and everything and anything liberals do IS wrong?

Have you read the harryesque rants of WF3H or whatever his name is.
Nothing but derogatory insults and trolls designed to inflame, not
inform... The kid is not much sharper than Donnie..

So that makes it somehow right and true that everything conservative =
good, everything liberal is wrong???

JustWait wrote:
In article , says...
"wf3h" wrote in message
...
On Aug 19, 1:04 pm, "nom=de=plume" wrote:

The first question is certainly valid. The current administration has
answered this several times. The problem was lack of responsbility of
ownership of the original invasion. The previous administration didn't get
it right, because they didn't follow the well-established Powell doctrine,
not in Afganistan nor in Iraq, the latter being a war of choice vs. one of
necessity. We're paying the price for the neglect right now in both
places... the former for not really making the commitment (and a war for
which we had a lot of support and justification), the second for going
there
in the first place (where we had practically no support and certainly no
justification).
correct on all counts. now we just have to convince the idiots of the
truth

Actually, we don't. The majority of Americans voted for change, both for
Congress and for the presidency. That change can take place without
compromising the vox populi. I don't believe that their minds can be
changed. It's interesting, actually. I vote and act against my own
self-interest all the time. The same goes for those opposed to true reform.
The difference is that I know I'm doing that. The latter is what fear-based
rhetoric gets done.

Yup, we are so glad that your party knows all of our motives and
thoughts, needs, and desires... Now maybe you can sit in a closed room
with the Unions and decide what we should all do with our lives, oh, and
of course our money.. Man, thank God you are so much smarter than the
rest of us...


You all claim to know all of the liberal's motives and thoughts, needs
and desires.......

In article ,
says...

JustWait wrote:
In article ,
says...
JustWait wrote:
In article , says...
"wf3h" wrote in message
...
On Aug 19, 7:58 am, BAR wrote:
wf3h wrote:
On Aug 18, 9:22 pm, BAR wrote:
wf3h wrote:
On Aug 18, 6:08 pm, J i m wrote:
wf3h wrote:
go back to your fertilzer/fuel oil bombs.
How's the one's war in Afganistain going?
he's making progress in cleaning up bush's **** up
I thought that Afghanistan was the good war and Iraq was the bad war.
right. but bush was on the point of losing afghanistan because he's an
idiot
What is our goal in Afghanistan? What do we think we are going to
accomplish that no one else in recorded history has accomplished?
i'm guessing you think afghanistan has never been conquered.

and that is wrong.
The first question is certainly valid. The current administration has
answered this several times. The problem was lack of responsbility of
ownership of the original invasion. The previous administration didn't get
it right, because they didn't follow the well-established Powell doctrine,
not in Afganistan nor in Iraq, the latter being a war of choice vs. one of
necessity. We're paying the price for the neglect right now in both
places... the former for not really making the commitment (and a war for
which we had a lot of support and justification), the second for going there
in the first place (where we had practically no support and certainly no
justification).
... and he declared. "No sentence shall be written without a bumper
sticker phrase included.. And thus, it was so, and responsible debate
was summarily dismissed.....

Responsible debate? Do you mean like going to town hall meetings with AK's?
Or do you mean responsible debate like conservatives never, ever do
anything wrong, and everything and anything liberals do IS wrong?

Have you read the harryesque rants of WF3H or whatever his name is.
Nothing but derogatory insults and trolls designed to inflame, not
inform... The kid is not much sharper than Donnie..

So that makes it somehow right and true that everything conservative =
good, everything liberal is wrong???

Nope, you are putting words in my mouth again. All I suggested is that
the guy is not worth talking to as he is not here for that. He is like
Harry and Donnie, looking to be an internet hero with bumpersticker
mentality...

--
Wafa free since 2009

In article ,
says...

JustWait wrote:
In article , says...
"wf3h" wrote in message
...
On Aug 19, 1:04 pm, "nom=de=plume" wrote:

The first question is certainly valid. The current administration has
answered this several times. The problem was lack of responsbility of
ownership of the original invasion. The previous administration didn't get
it right, because they didn't follow the well-established Powell doctrine,
not in Afganistan nor in Iraq, the latter being a war of choice vs. one of
necessity. We're paying the price for the neglect right now in both
places... the former for not really making the commitment (and a war for
which we had a lot of support and justification), the second for going
there
in the first place (where we had practically no support and certainly no
justification).
correct on all counts. now we just have to convince the idiots of the
truth

Actually, we don't. The majority of Americans voted for change, both for
Congress and for the presidency. That change can take place without
compromising the vox populi. I don't believe that their minds can be
changed. It's interesting, actually. I vote and act against my own
self-interest all the time. The same goes for those opposed to true reform.
The difference is that I know I'm doing that. The latter is what fear-based
rhetoric gets done.

Yup, we are so glad that your party knows all of our motives and
thoughts, needs, and desires... Now maybe you can sit in a closed room
with the Unions and decide what we should all do with our lives, oh, and
of course our money.. Man, thank God you are so much smarter than the
rest of us...


You all claim to know all of the liberal's motives and thoughts, needs
and desires.......

Well, we have a pretty good idea based on history and being informed..
Either way, I don't want them shoved down my throat with my HALF of the
country not having any say. The Nuclear option is being discussed in
Washington as we speak... Jam it through cause we are stupid, right,
America..

--
Wafa free since 2009

JustWait wrote:
In article ,
says...
JustWait wrote:
In article ,
says...
JustWait wrote:
In article , says...
"wf3h" wrote in message
...
On Aug 19, 7:58 am, BAR wrote:
wf3h wrote:
On Aug 18, 9:22 pm, BAR wrote:
wf3h wrote:
On Aug 18, 6:08 pm, J i m wrote:
wf3h wrote:
go back to your fertilzer/fuel oil bombs.
How's the one's war in Afganistain going?
he's making progress in cleaning up bush's **** up
I thought that Afghanistan was the good war and Iraq was the bad war.
right. but bush was on the point of losing afghanistan because he's an
idiot
What is our goal in Afghanistan? What do we think we are going to
accomplish that no one else in recorded history has accomplished?
i'm guessing you think afghanistan has never been conquered.

and that is wrong.
The first question is certainly valid. The current administration has
answered this several times. The problem was lack of responsbility of
ownership of the original invasion. The previous administration didn't get
it right, because they didn't follow the well-established Powell doctrine,
not in Afganistan nor in Iraq, the latter being a war of choice vs. one of
necessity. We're paying the price for the neglect right now in both
places... the former for not really making the commitment (and a war for
which we had a lot of support and justification), the second for going there
in the first place (where we had practically no support and certainly no
justification).
... and he declared. "No sentence shall be written without a bumper
sticker phrase included.. And thus, it was so, and responsible debate
was summarily dismissed.....

Responsible debate? Do you mean like going to town hall meetings with AK's?
Or do you mean responsible debate like conservatives never, ever do
anything wrong, and everything and anything liberals do IS wrong?
Have you read the harryesque rants of WF3H or whatever his name is.
Nothing but derogatory insults and trolls designed to inflame, not
inform... The kid is not much sharper than Donnie..

So that makes it somehow right and true that everything conservative =
good, everything liberal is wrong???

Nope, you are putting words in my mouth again. All I suggested is that
the guy is not worth talking to as he is not here for that. He is like
Harry and Donnie, looking to be an internet hero with bumpersticker
mentality...



Naw. I'm here to laugh at idiots like you, loogy and most of the rest of
the righties. I don't often run into your sort of retardos in the real
world.

You boys just can't anything right.