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On Aug 19, 7:58 am, BAR wrote:
wf3h wrote:
On Aug 18, 9:22 pm, BAR wrote:
wf3h wrote:
On Aug 18, 6:08 pm, J i m wrote:
wf3h wrote:
go back to your fertilzer/fuel oil bombs.
How's the one's war in Afganistain going?
he's making progress in cleaning up bush's **** up
I thought that Afghanistan was the good war and Iraq was the bad
war.

right. but bush was on the point of losing afghanistan because
he's
an
idiot

What is our goal in Afghanistan? What do we think we are going to
accomplish that no one else in recorded history has accomplished?

i'm guessing you think afghanistan has never been conquered.

and that is wrong.


The first question is certainly valid. The current administration has
answered this several times. The problem was lack of responsbility of
ownership of the original invasion. The previous administration didn't
get
it right, because they didn't follow the well-established Powell
doctrine,
not in Afganistan nor in Iraq, the latter being a war of choice vs.
one
of
necessity. We're paying the price for the neglect right now in both
places... the former for not really making the commitment (and a war
for
which we had a lot of support and justification), the second for going
there
in the first place (where we had practically no support and certainly
no
justification).

... and he declared. "No sentence shall be written without a bumper
sticker phrase included.. And thus, it was so, and responsible debate
was summarily dismissed.....

--
Wafa free since 2009


Sounds like right-wing wishful thinking on your part. Your response has
no
basis in logic or continuity of the discussion, which makes logical sense
if
you all you have is fear-based jingoism as your last best hope for the
future.

Pffffttt. Have you read his posts? Nothing but cheap shots, based on Al
Franken/Code Pink style rhetoric. He gets a kick out of ****ing people
off, must have the same thing Harry and Donnie have...
--
Wafa free since 2009


I'm talking about your post in my comment. You haven't addressed them. You
just continue to point fingers at someone else and continue with jingoism,
as though that's going to qualify as a logical argument.

Have you read this guys posts.. every line has a grade school insult in
it, he writes like Harry taking cheap shots from under his desk, trying
to kill the pain...

Even Gene, who really falls more on your side of the isle than mine, has
mocked the guy and called him to the carpet several times...

--
Wafa free since 2009

"JustWait" wrote in message
...
In article , says...

"JustWait" wrote in message
...
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"JustWait" wrote in message
...
In article , says...

"wf3h" wrote in message
...
On Aug 19, 7:58 am, BAR wrote:
wf3h wrote:
On Aug 18, 9:22 pm, BAR wrote:
wf3h wrote:
On Aug 18, 6:08 pm, J i m wrote:
wf3h wrote:
go back to your fertilzer/fuel oil bombs.
How's the one's war in Afganistain going?
he's making progress in cleaning up bush's **** up
I thought that Afghanistan was the good war and Iraq was the
bad
war.

right. but bush was on the point of losing afghanistan because
he's
an
idiot

What is our goal in Afghanistan? What do we think we are going to
accomplish that no one else in recorded history has accomplished?

i'm guessing you think afghanistan has never been conquered.

and that is wrong.


The first question is certainly valid. The current administration
has
answered this several times. The problem was lack of responsbility
of
ownership of the original invasion. The previous administration
didn't
get
it right, because they didn't follow the well-established Powell
doctrine,
not in Afganistan nor in Iraq, the latter being a war of choice vs.
one
of
necessity. We're paying the price for the neglect right now in both
places... the former for not really making the commitment (and a
war
for
which we had a lot of support and justification), the second for
going
there
in the first place (where we had practically no support and
certainly
no
justification).

... and he declared. "No sentence shall be written without a bumper
sticker phrase included.. And thus, it was so, and responsible
debate
was summarily dismissed.....

--
Wafa free since 2009


Sounds like right-wing wishful thinking on your part. Your response
has
no
basis in logic or continuity of the discussion, which makes logical
sense
if
you all you have is fear-based jingoism as your last best hope for the
future.

Pffffttt. Have you read his posts? Nothing but cheap shots, based on Al
Franken/Code Pink style rhetoric. He gets a kick out of ****ing people
off, must have the same thing Harry and Donnie have...
--
Wafa free since 2009


I'm talking about your post in my comment. You haven't addressed them.
You
just continue to point fingers at someone else and continue with
jingoism,
as though that's going to qualify as a logical argument.

Have you read this guys posts.. every line has a grade school insult in
it, he writes like Harry taking cheap shots from under his desk, trying
to kill the pain...

Even Gene, who really falls more on your side of the isle than mine, has
mocked the guy and called him to the carpet several times...

--
Wafa free since 2009


What's that got to do with me? If you don't want to respond to my comments
about your post, then I'm not sure what the point is of attempting to have a
civil discourse. Let's assume for the moment that Harry is a terrible person
and Gene agrees with you on this. Make a logical argument. I'm willing to
listen.


--
Nom=de=Plume

On Wed, 19 Aug 2009 22:01:57 -0700, "nom=de=plume"
wrote:

"JustWait" wrote in message
...
In article , says...

"JustWait" wrote in message
...
In article , says...

"JustWait" wrote in message
...
In article , says...

"wf3h" wrote in message
...
On Aug 19, 7:58 am, BAR wrote:
wf3h wrote:
On Aug 18, 9:22 pm, BAR wrote:
wf3h wrote:
On Aug 18, 6:08 pm, J i m wrote:
wf3h wrote:
go back to your fertilzer/fuel oil bombs.
How's the one's war in Afganistain going?
he's making progress in cleaning up bush's **** up
I thought that Afghanistan was the good war and Iraq was the
bad
war.

right. but bush was on the point of losing afghanistan because
he's
an
idiot

What is our goal in Afghanistan? What do we think we are going to
accomplish that no one else in recorded history has accomplished?

i'm guessing you think afghanistan has never been conquered.

and that is wrong.


The first question is certainly valid. The current administration
has
answered this several times. The problem was lack of responsbility
of
ownership of the original invasion. The previous administration
didn't
get
it right, because they didn't follow the well-established Powell
doctrine,
not in Afganistan nor in Iraq, the latter being a war of choice vs.
one
of
necessity. We're paying the price for the neglect right now in both
places... the former for not really making the commitment (and a
war
for
which we had a lot of support and justification), the second for
going
there
in the first place (where we had practically no support and
certainly
no
justification).

... and he declared. "No sentence shall be written without a bumper
sticker phrase included.. And thus, it was so, and responsible
debate
was summarily dismissed.....

--
Wafa free since 2009


Sounds like right-wing wishful thinking on your part. Your response
has
no
basis in logic or continuity of the discussion, which makes logical
sense
if
you all you have is fear-based jingoism as your last best hope for the
future.

Pffffttt. Have you read his posts? Nothing but cheap shots, based on Al
Franken/Code Pink style rhetoric. He gets a kick out of ****ing people
off, must have the same thing Harry and Donnie have...
--
Wafa free since 2009


I'm talking about your post in my comment. You haven't addressed them.
You
just continue to point fingers at someone else and continue with
jingoism,
as though that's going to qualify as a logical argument.

Have you read this guys posts.. every line has a grade school insult in
it, he writes like Harry taking cheap shots from under his desk, trying
to kill the pain...

Even Gene, who really falls more on your side of the isle than mine, has
mocked the guy and called him to the carpet several times...

--
Wafa free since 2009


What's that got to do with me? If you don't want to respond to my comments
about your post, then I'm not sure what the point is of attempting to have a
civil discourse. Let's assume for the moment that Harry is a terrible person
and Gene agrees with you on this. Make a logical argument. I'm willing to
listen.

You'll have to be very patient and willing to write an awful lot for a
modicum of thought.

Best of luck.

On Wed, 19 Aug 2009 19:58:02 -0300, "Don White"
wrote:


"BAR" wrote in message
m...
wf3h wrote:
On Aug 19, 10:20 am, BAR wrote:
wf3h wrote:
On Aug 19, 9:09 am, BAR wrote:
wf3h wrote:
On Aug 19, 7:58 am, BAR wrote:
wf3h wrote:
On Aug 18, 9:22 pm, BAR wrote:
wf3h wrote:
On Aug 18, 6:08 pm, J i m wrote:
wf3h wrote:
go back to your fertilzer/fuel oil bombs.
How's the one's war in Afganistain going?
he's making progress in cleaning up bush's **** up
I thought that Afghanistan was the good war and Iraq was the bad
war..
right. but bush was on the point of losing afghanistan because he's
an
idiot
What is our goal in Afghanistan? What do we think we are going to
accomplish that no one else in recorded history has accomplished?
i'm guessing you think afghanistan has never been conquered.
and that is wrong.
What value, strategic or economic, does Afghanistan present to the US
of
A? Why are you willing to waste US lives conquering Afghanistan? What
are you going to do with it once you have conquered it?-
set up a government that is friendly to the US so that afghanistan
never again attacks us.
you're really, REALLY ****ing stupid.
Afghanistan did not attack us.

sure did. the attack was launched from afghanistan. i'm not sure what
planet you're on, but it needs a better earth news service

I must have missed the Afghan army uniforms that the 19 hijackers were
wearing.

Bin Laden used Afghanistan as a base from
which to run his organization. Bin Laden was extremely smart in picking
Afghanistan due to the fact that it is land-locked and surrounded by
countries that are not exactly best friends of the US of A.

ah. so he 'used it as a base'. what did he do? go to avis rent-a-
country?

Yes, he did go to rent-a-country.

christ you're dumber than i thought possible. and i really thought you
were stupid.

You still haven't said what our goal in Afghanistan is and why we are
there.

Georgie should have invaded Saudi Arabia... but he was too busy holding
hands and swapping spit with the king & his family.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h27HRNm_r4U


Good, a liberal who realizes Afghanistan is a waste of time, money,
and lives.
--
John H.

"The truth is that unions are essentially parasitic organizations that
thrive only by draining and ultimately destroying the companies and
industries they control."

On Aug 19, 9:38*pm, BAR wrote:
wf3h wrote:
On Aug 19, 6:41 pm, BAR wrote:
wf3h wrote:

ah. so he 'used it as a base'. what did he do? go to avis rent-a-
country?
Yes, he did go to rent-a-country.

christ you're dumber than i thought possible. and i really thought you
were stupid.
You still haven't said what our goal in Afghanistan is and why we are
there.-

you still haven't said why you favor surrender

I don't favor surrender, I am trying to understand why you are a
warmonger now that Obama is in office.

i am not a warmonger. i am trying to understand why you favor
surrender now that obama is in office

On Aug 19, 10:26*pm, JustWait wrote:


Yup, we are so glad that your party knows all of our motives and
thoughts, needs, and desires... Now maybe you can sit in a closed room
with the Unions and decide what we should all do with our lives, oh, and
of course our money.. Man, thank God you are so much smarter than the
rest of us...

as opposed to dick cheney hiding in a back room with the chairman of
exxon to figure out the energy policy of the US...and getting us into
a war over that very policy

On Wed, 19 Aug 2009 22:15:37 -0400, JustWait
wrote:

In article ,
says...

JustWait wrote:
In article , says...
"wf3h" wrote in message
...
On Aug 19, 7:58 am, BAR wrote:
wf3h wrote:
On Aug 18, 9:22 pm, BAR wrote:
wf3h wrote:
On Aug 18, 6:08 pm, J i m wrote:
wf3h wrote:
go back to your fertilzer/fuel oil bombs.
How's the one's war in Afganistain going?
he's making progress in cleaning up bush's **** up
I thought that Afghanistan was the good war and Iraq was the bad war.
right. but bush was on the point of losing afghanistan because he's an
idiot
What is our goal in Afghanistan? What do we think we are going to
accomplish that no one else in recorded history has accomplished?
i'm guessing you think afghanistan has never been conquered.

and that is wrong.

The first question is certainly valid. The current administration has
answered this several times. The problem was lack of responsbility of
ownership of the original invasion. The previous administration didn't get
it right, because they didn't follow the well-established Powell doctrine,
not in Afganistan nor in Iraq, the latter being a war of choice vs. one of
necessity. We're paying the price for the neglect right now in both
places... the former for not really making the commitment (and a war for
which we had a lot of support and justification), the second for going there
in the first place (where we had practically no support and certainly no
justification).

... and he declared. "No sentence shall be written without a bumper
sticker phrase included.. And thus, it was so, and responsible debate
was summarily dismissed.....

Responsible debate? Do you mean like going to town hall meetings with AK's?
Or do you mean responsible debate like conservatives never, ever do
anything wrong, and everything and anything liberals do IS wrong?

Have you read the harryesque rants of WF3H or whatever his name is.
Nothing but derogatory insults and trolls designed to inflame, not
inform... The kid is not much sharper than Donnie..

But people still respond to him.
--
John H.

"The truth is that unions are essentially parasitic organizations that
thrive only by draining and ultimately destroying the companies and
industries they control."

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"JustWait" wrote in message
...
In article , says...

"JustWait" wrote in message
...
In article , says...

"JustWait" wrote in message
...
In article , says...

"wf3h" wrote in message
...
On Aug 19, 7:58 am, BAR wrote:
wf3h wrote:
On Aug 18, 9:22 pm, BAR wrote:
wf3h wrote:
On Aug 18, 6:08 pm, J i m wrote:
wf3h wrote:
go back to your fertilzer/fuel oil bombs.
How's the one's war in Afganistain going?
he's making progress in cleaning up bush's **** up
I thought that Afghanistan was the good war and Iraq was the
bad
war.

right. but bush was on the point of losing afghanistan because
he's
an
idiot

What is our goal in Afghanistan? What do we think we are going to
accomplish that no one else in recorded history has accomplished?

i'm guessing you think afghanistan has never been conquered.

and that is wrong.


The first question is certainly valid. The current administration
has
answered this several times. The problem was lack of responsbility
of
ownership of the original invasion. The previous administration
didn't
get
it right, because they didn't follow the well-established Powell
doctrine,
not in Afganistan nor in Iraq, the latter being a war of choice vs.
one
of
necessity. We're paying the price for the neglect right now in both
places... the former for not really making the commitment (and a
war
for
which we had a lot of support and justification), the second for
going
there
in the first place (where we had practically no support and
certainly
no
justification).

... and he declared. "No sentence shall be written without a bumper
sticker phrase included.. And thus, it was so, and responsible
debate
was summarily dismissed.....

--
Wafa free since 2009


Sounds like right-wing wishful thinking on your part. Your response
has
no
basis in logic or continuity of the discussion, which makes logical
sense
if
you all you have is fear-based jingoism as your last best hope for the
future.

Pffffttt. Have you read his posts? Nothing but cheap shots, based on Al
Franken/Code Pink style rhetoric. He gets a kick out of ****ing people
off, must have the same thing Harry and Donnie have...
--
Wafa free since 2009


I'm talking about your post in my comment. You haven't addressed them.
You
just continue to point fingers at someone else and continue with
jingoism,
as though that's going to qualify as a logical argument.

Have you read this guys posts.. every line has a grade school insult in
it, he writes like Harry taking cheap shots from under his desk, trying
to kill the pain...

Even Gene, who really falls more on your side of the isle than mine, has
mocked the guy and called him to the carpet several times...

--
Wafa free since 2009


What's that got to do with me? If you don't want to respond to my comments
about your post, then I'm not sure what the point is of attempting to have a
civil discourse. Let's assume for the moment that Harry is a terrible person
and Gene agrees with you on this. Make a logical argument. I'm willing to
listen.

You really can't follow a conversation can you?? Pffffttt...

--
Wafa free since 2009

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"JustWait" wrote in message
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"JustWait" wrote in message
...
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"JustWait" wrote in message
...
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"wf3h" wrote in message
...
On Aug 19, 7:58 am, BAR wrote:
wf3h wrote:
On Aug 18, 9:22 pm, BAR wrote:
wf3h wrote:
On Aug 18, 6:08 pm, J i m wrote:
wf3h wrote:
go back to your fertilzer/fuel oil bombs.
How's the one's war in Afganistain going?
he's making progress in cleaning up bush's **** up
I thought that Afghanistan was the good war and Iraq was the
bad
war.

right. but bush was on the point of losing afghanistan because
he's
an
idiot

What is our goal in Afghanistan? What do we think we are going to
accomplish that no one else in recorded history has accomplished?

i'm guessing you think afghanistan has never been conquered.

and that is wrong.


The first question is certainly valid. The current administration
has
answered this several times. The problem was lack of responsbility
of
ownership of the original invasion. The previous administration
didn't
get
it right, because they didn't follow the well-established Powell
doctrine,
not in Afganistan nor in Iraq, the latter being a war of choice vs.
one
of
necessity. We're paying the price for the neglect right now in both
places... the former for not really making the commitment (and a
war
for
which we had a lot of support and justification), the second for
going
there
in the first place (where we had practically no support and
certainly
no
justification).

... and he declared. "No sentence shall be written without a bumper
sticker phrase included.. And thus, it was so, and responsible
debate
was summarily dismissed.....

--
Wafa free since 2009


Sounds like right-wing wishful thinking on your part. Your response
has
no
basis in logic or continuity of the discussion, which makes logical
sense
if
you all you have is fear-based jingoism as your last best hope for the
future.

Pffffttt. Have you read his posts? Nothing but cheap shots, based on Al
Franken/Code Pink style rhetoric. He gets a kick out of ****ing people
off, must have the same thing Harry and Donnie have...
--
Wafa free since 2009


I'm talking about your post in my comment. You haven't addressed them.
You
just continue to point fingers at someone else and continue with
jingoism,
as though that's going to qualify as a logical argument.

Have you read this guys posts.. every line has a grade school insult in
it, he writes like Harry taking cheap shots from under his desk, trying
to kill the pain...

Even Gene, who really falls more on your side of the isle than mine, has
mocked the guy and called him to the carpet several times...

--
Wafa free since 2009


What's that got to do with me? If you don't want to respond to my comments
about your post, then I'm not sure what the point is of attempting to have a
civil discourse. Let's assume for the moment that Harry is a terrible person
and Gene agrees with you on this. Make a logical argument. I'm willing to
listen.

Oh, yeah.. Gravity.... Buh, bye... Plonk

--
Wafa free since 2009

wf3h wrote:
On Aug 19, 9:38 pm, BAR wrote:
wf3h wrote:
On Aug 19, 6:41 pm, BAR wrote:
wf3h wrote:
ah. so he 'used it as a base'. what did he do? go to avis rent-a-
country?
Yes, he did go to rent-a-country.
christ you're dumber than i thought possible. and i really thought you
were stupid.
You still haven't said what our goal in Afghanistan is and why we are
there.-
you still haven't said why you favor surrender
I don't favor surrender, I am trying to understand why you are a
warmonger now that Obama is in office.

i am not a warmonger. i am trying to understand why you favor
surrender now that obama is in office

Yes you are a warmonger.