On Aug 13, 9:54*pm, wrote:
On Thu, 13 Aug 2009 19:43:42 -0400, H the K
wrote:





wf3h wrote:
On Aug 13, 5:18 pm, jps wrote:

He is happy to see his dad who is now retired. His dad lives on Social
Security and his union pension because some liberal made sure he could
take care of himself so Joe wouldn’t have to. After his visit with dad
he gets back in his car for the ride home.
He turns on a radio talk show, the host’s keeps saying that liberals
are bad and conservatives are good. (He doesn’t tell Joe that his
beloved Republicans have fought against every protection and benefit
Joe enjoys throughout his day) Joe agrees, "We don’t need those big
government liberals ruining our lives; after all, I’m a self made man
who believes everyone should take care of themselves, just like I
have".

*nice summary!

I paid full working dues to my union for 25 years. I was always happy to
write the check each quarter.

I never felt more like a statistic when I worked in the union when I
was young. *I was nothing more than a drone, as were the others.
Having had some encounters with the Soviet Bloc when in my life time,
I have appreciated the fact that working under union duress was a
microcosmic experience of communism. *

--


and i never felt more like a drone watching plant closings, lay offs
of engineers, etc, with no union protection at all, courtesy of
'management watching out for stockholders' when they were really
protecting themselves.

wf3h wrote:
On Aug 13, 9:54 pm, wrote:
On Thu, 13 Aug 2009 19:43:42 -0400, H the K
wrote:





wf3h wrote:
On Aug 13, 5:18 pm, jps wrote:
He is happy to see his dad who is now retired. His dad lives on Social
Security and his union pension because some liberal made sure he could
take care of himself so Joe wouldn’t have to. After his visit with dad
he gets back in his car for the ride home.
He turns on a radio talk show, the host’s keeps saying that liberals
are bad and conservatives are good. (He doesn’t tell Joe that his
beloved Republicans have fought against every protection and benefit
Joe enjoys throughout his day) Joe agrees, "We don’t need those big
government liberals ruining our lives; after all, I’m a self made man
who believes everyone should take care of themselves, just like I
have".
nice summary!
I paid full working dues to my union for 25 years. I was always happy to
write the check each quarter.
I never felt more like a statistic when I worked in the union when I
was young. I was nothing more than a drone, as were the others.
Having had some encounters with the Soviet Bloc when in my life time,
I have appreciated the fact that working under union duress was a
microcosmic experience of communism.

--


and i never felt more like a drone watching plant closings, lay offs
of engineers, etc, with no union protection at all, courtesy of
'management watching out for stockholders' when they were really
protecting themselves.

How can a union stop a plant closing? I can see how they can cause a
plant closing.

On Fri, 14 Aug 2009 08:02:44 -0400, Jim numero uno "j i
wrote:

wf3h wrote:
On Aug 13, 9:54 pm, wrote:
On Thu, 13 Aug 2009 19:43:42 -0400, H the K
wrote:





wf3h wrote:
On Aug 13, 5:18 pm, jps wrote:
He is happy to see his dad who is now retired. His dad lives on Social
Security and his union pension because some liberal made sure he could
take care of himself so Joe wouldn’t have to. After his visit with dad
he gets back in his car for the ride home.
He turns on a radio talk show, the host’s keeps saying that liberals
are bad and conservatives are good. (He doesn’t tell Joe that his
beloved Republicans have fought against every protection and benefit
Joe enjoys throughout his day) Joe agrees, "We don’t need those big
government liberals ruining our lives; after all, I’m a self made man
who believes everyone should take care of themselves, just like I
have".
nice summary!
I paid full working dues to my union for 25 years. I was always happy to
write the check each quarter.
I never felt more like a statistic when I worked in the union when I
was young. I was nothing more than a drone, as were the others.
Having had some encounters with the Soviet Bloc when in my life time,
I have appreciated the fact that working under union duress was a
microcosmic experience of communism.

--


and i never felt more like a drone watching plant closings, lay offs
of engineers, etc, with no union protection at all, courtesy of
'management watching out for stockholders' when they were really
protecting themselves.

How can a union stop a plant closing? I can see how they can cause a
plant closing.

I have seen cases in which businesses have moved out of state or out
of country (and have even been bankrupted) by dint of union greed.
Unions may have had some nobility of purpose at one time. They don't
anymore.

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On Fri, 14 Aug 2009 04:56:34 -0700 (PDT), wf3h
wrote:

On Aug 13, 9:54*pm, wrote:
On Thu, 13 Aug 2009 19:43:42 -0400, H the K
wrote:





wf3h wrote:
On Aug 13, 5:18 pm, jps wrote:

He is happy to see his dad who is now retired. His dad lives on Social
Security and his union pension because some liberal made sure he could
take care of himself so Joe wouldn’t have to. After his visit with dad
he gets back in his car for the ride home.
He turns on a radio talk show, the host’s keeps saying that liberals
are bad and conservatives are good. (He doesn’t tell Joe that his
beloved Republicans have fought against every protection and benefit
Joe enjoys throughout his day) Joe agrees, "We don’t need those big
government liberals ruining our lives; after all, I’m a self made man
who believes everyone should take care of themselves, just like I
have".

*nice summary!

I paid full working dues to my union for 25 years. I was always happy to
write the check each quarter.

I never felt more like a statistic when I worked in the union when I
was young. *I was nothing more than a drone, as were the others.
Having had some encounters with the Soviet Bloc when in my life time,
I have appreciated the fact that working under union duress was a
microcosmic experience of communism. *

--


and i never felt more like a drone watching plant closings, lay offs
of engineers, etc, with no union protection at all, courtesy of
'management watching out for stockholders' when they were really
protecting themselves.

Employ yourself. It allows you the freedom of choice.

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wf3h wrote:
On Aug 13, 9:54 pm, wrote:
On Thu, 13 Aug 2009 19:43:42 -0400, H the K
wrote:





wf3h wrote:
On Aug 13, 5:18 pm, jps wrote:
He is happy to see his dad who is now retired. His dad lives on Social
Security and his union pension because some liberal made sure he could
take care of himself so Joe wouldn’t have to. After his visit with dad
he gets back in his car for the ride home.
He turns on a radio talk show, the host’s keeps saying that liberals
are bad and conservatives are good. (He doesn’t tell Joe that his
beloved Republicans have fought against every protection and benefit
Joe enjoys throughout his day) Joe agrees, "We don’t need those big
government liberals ruining our lives; after all, I’m a self made man
who believes everyone should take care of themselves, just like I
have".
nice summary!
I paid full working dues to my union for 25 years. I was always happy to
write the check each quarter.
I never felt more like a statistic when I worked in the union when I
was young. I was nothing more than a drone, as were the others.
Having had some encounters with the Soviet Bloc when in my life time,
I have appreciated the fact that working under union duress was a
microcosmic experience of communism.

--


and i never felt more like a drone watching plant closings, lay offs
of engineers, etc, with no union protection at all, courtesy of
'management watching out for stockholders' when they were really
protecting themselves.

Start your own company if you don't like the way "management" is running
the one where your are an employee. Does your employment contract have
a clause that says you are guaranteed lifetime employment? Oh, that's
right you don't have an employment contract.

BAR wrote:
wf3h wrote:
On Aug 13, 9:54 pm, wrote:
On Thu, 13 Aug 2009 19:43:42 -0400, H the K
wrote:





wf3h wrote:
On Aug 13, 5:18 pm, jps wrote:
He is happy to see his dad who is now retired. His dad lives on
Social
Security and his union pension because some liberal made sure he
could
take care of himself so Joe wouldn’t have to. After his visit with
dad
he gets back in his car for the ride home.
He turns on a radio talk show, the host’s keeps saying that liberals
are bad and conservatives are good. (He doesn’t tell Joe that his
beloved Republicans have fought against every protection and benefit
Joe enjoys throughout his day) Joe agrees, "We don’t need those big
government liberals ruining our lives; after all, I’m a self made man
who believes everyone should take care of themselves, just like I
have".
nice summary!
I paid full working dues to my union for 25 years. I was always
happy to
write the check each quarter.
I never felt more like a statistic when I worked in the union when I
was young. I was nothing more than a drone, as were the others.
Having had some encounters with the Soviet Bloc when in my life time,
I have appreciated the fact that working under union duress was a
microcosmic experience of communism.
--


and i never felt more like a drone watching plant closings, lay offs
of engineers, etc, with no union protection at all, courtesy of
'management watching out for stockholders' when they were really
protecting themselves.

Start your own company if you don't like the way "management" is running
the one where your are an employee. Does your employment contract have
a clause that says you are guaranteed lifetime employment? Oh, that's
right you don't have an employment contract.



It's going to be an interesting day when your job is phased out and you
are dumped into the job market without an appropriate educational
background.

"But...but...I was a marine..."

snerk

H the K wrote:
BAR wrote:
wf3h wrote:
On Aug 13, 9:54 pm, wrote:
On Thu, 13 Aug 2009 19:43:42 -0400, H the K
wrote:





wf3h wrote:
On Aug 13, 5:18 pm, jps wrote:
He is happy to see his dad who is now retired. His dad lives on
Social
Security and his union pension because some liberal made sure he
could
take care of himself so Joe wouldn’t have to. After his visit
with dad
he gets back in his car for the ride home.
He turns on a radio talk show, the host’s keeps saying that liberals
are bad and conservatives are good. (He doesn’t tell Joe that his
beloved Republicans have fought against every protection and benefit
Joe enjoys throughout his day) Joe agrees, "We don’t need those big
government liberals ruining our lives; after all, I’m a self made
man
who believes everyone should take care of themselves, just like I
have".
nice summary!
I paid full working dues to my union for 25 years. I was always
happy to
write the check each quarter.
I never felt more like a statistic when I worked in the union when I
was young. I was nothing more than a drone, as were the others.
Having had some encounters with the Soviet Bloc when in my life time,
I have appreciated the fact that working under union duress was a
microcosmic experience of communism. --


and i never felt more like a drone watching plant closings, lay offs
of engineers, etc, with no union protection at all, courtesy of
'management watching out for stockholders' when they were really
protecting themselves.

Start your own company if you don't like the way "management" is
running the one where your are an employee. Does your employment
contract have a clause that says you are guaranteed lifetime
employment? Oh, that's right you don't have an employment contract.



It's going to be an interesting day when your job is phased out and you
are dumped into the job market without an appropriate educational
background.

When you have 31 years experience a BA/BS degree from 30 odd years ago
becomes less important. My ability to perform the job is more important.

"But...but...I was a marine..."

The majority of people see that as a positive.

snerk

I got paid today. Mr Evil CEO deposited a big fat check into my my bank
account.

BAR wrote:
H the K wrote:
BAR wrote:
wf3h wrote:
On Aug 13, 9:54 pm, wrote:
On Thu, 13 Aug 2009 19:43:42 -0400, H the K
wrote:





wf3h wrote:
On Aug 13, 5:18 pm, jps wrote:
He is happy to see his dad who is now retired. His dad lives on
Social
Security and his union pension because some liberal made sure he
could
take care of himself so Joe wouldn’t have to. After his visit
with dad
he gets back in his car for the ride home.
He turns on a radio talk show, the host’s keeps saying that
liberals
are bad and conservatives are good. (He doesn’t tell Joe that his
beloved Republicans have fought against every protection and
benefit
Joe enjoys throughout his day) Joe agrees, "We don’t need those big
government liberals ruining our lives; after all, I’m a self
made man
who believes everyone should take care of themselves, just like I
have".
nice summary!
I paid full working dues to my union for 25 years. I was always
happy to
write the check each quarter.
I never felt more like a statistic when I worked in the union when I
was young. I was nothing more than a drone, as were the others.
Having had some encounters with the Soviet Bloc when in my life time,
I have appreciated the fact that working under union duress was a
microcosmic experience of communism. --


and i never felt more like a drone watching plant closings, lay offs
of engineers, etc, with no union protection at all, courtesy of
'management watching out for stockholders' when they were really
protecting themselves.

Start your own company if you don't like the way "management" is
running the one where your are an employee. Does your employment
contract have a clause that says you are guaranteed lifetime
employment? Oh, that's right you don't have an employment contract.



It's going to be an interesting day when your job is phased out and
you are dumped into the job market without an appropriate educational
background.

When you have 31 years experience a BA/BS degree from 30 odd years ago
becomes less important. My ability to perform the job is more important.

"But...but...I was a marine..."

The majority of people see that as a positive.

snerk

I got paid today. Mr Evil CEO deposited a big fat check into my my bank
account.

A single stinking diploma from a third rate liberal arts school in
Kansas is all he has to hang his hat on. And the only thing he'll be
remembered for when he departs for the after life is WAFA.

BAR wrote:

I got paid today. Mr Evil CEO deposited a big fat check into my my bank
account.


Gee whiz, I get checks from my consulting business all month long, and
manage to get to the bank when necessary to deposit them. Y-a-w-n.

You must be working for a really small company if all the CEO has to do
is handle payroll.

H the K wrote:
BAR wrote:

I got paid today. Mr Evil CEO deposited a big fat check into my my
bank account.


Gee whiz, I get checks from my consulting business all month long, and
manage to get to the bank when necessary to deposit them. Y-a-w-n.

I didn't know the DNC paid weekly.

You must be working for a really small company if all the CEO has to do
is handle payroll.

It is small compared to my wife's company. My company has 40,000
employees world wide and my wife's has 200,000.