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It has been reliably reported that American Boy Scouts continue to
suffer exposure to a rescue scam that resulted in agonizing deaths for the Darlington School boys and hundreds of other dead American schoolchildren. This deadly rescue scam, used by the American Canoe Association, exposes Boy Scouts and other children to the deadly notion that they can easily empty out a swamped canoe and re-enter in deep water, without capsizing another canoe. In fact, without sponsons there is no reliable and foolproof means to escape the water and certain death by hypothermia, even wearing a PFD. On Aug 5, 1:50 pm, Chicago Paddling-Fishing wrote: - Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - TimIngram wrote: snipto save themselves. Go ahead, test a court with rolling, paddle floating, canoe over canoe, capistrano flip, paddle a floooded canoe or kayak to shore. The depth of perfidy of your canoe and kayak death snip That's funny, I just came back from a few weeks at scout camp and every week on what's called 'Wet Wednesday', hundreds of kids tip over their canoe and do canoe over canoe rescues and climb back in... it's a requirement for canoeing merit badge... hundreds, perhaps thousands per week did it all summer long to earn the merit badge at the camp I was at (and I'm sure the same is true for countless other camps for Boy and Girl Scouts across the world)... snip Also, I've been on a jury and I can get back in a canoe after being flung into the water (although the last time I did it was at an ACA Canoe instructor class I took... These are some of the things the kids do... e. In deep water, exit the canoe and get back in without capsizing. f. Capsize the canoe and demonstrate how staying with a capsized canoe will support both paddlers. g. Swim, tow, or push a swamped canoe 50 feet to shallow water. In the shallow water, empty the swamped canoe and reenter it. h. In deep water, rescue a swamped canoe and its paddlers by emptying the swamped canoe and helping the paddlers safely reenter their boat without capsizing. -- John Nelson ---------------------------------------------------------------------------**-- Chicago Area Paddling/Fishing Page http://www.chicagopaddling.org http://www.chicagofishing.org (A Non-Commercial Web Site: No Sponsors, No Paid Ads and Nothing to Sell) You are disingenuous and deadly to kids. American Canoe Association Hall of Fame member Cliff Jacobson in the 2005 book "Expedition Canoeing" states: "The canoe-over-canoe rescue touted by the Red Cross and Boy Scouts is generally impossible to perform in a running sea. Far better to forget about the swamped canoe and gear and put your efforts into rescuing the paddlers" (p.202.): Famous Canadian canoeist and film-maker Bill Mason, reversed his traditional rescue ideas after the dead schoolchildren (12) in the 1978 Lake Temiskaming tragedy, stating that these rescues simply cannot work, in his last book: "canoe over canoe...I have since changed my mind..." (Song of the Paddle,1988, p.126). Mr. Mason advocated extra interior flotation in this book instead, but died suddenly of stomach cancer just before the first sponson patent became known. C.E.S. Franks reached Bill Mason's conclusion just before Temiskaming, in The Canoe and White Water, University of Toronto Press, 1977, p.123: "...nearly useless...On a stormy lake where upsets are likely to occur, the water is often too rough and choppy." Note: American Canoe Association Hall of Fame member Cliff Jacobson in the 2005 book "Expedition Canoeing" states: "The canoe-over-canoe rescue touted by the Red Cross and Boy Scouts is generally impossible to perform in a running sea. Far better to forget about the swamped canoe and gear and put your efforts into rescuing the paddlers" (p.202.) However, in Deep Waters, James Raffan notes that Jacobson's idea merely capsized more canoes, killing 12 boys and one leader, Ontario's Lake Temiskaming, 1978. See page 108 of "Deep Waters": "Somewhere in the middle of the lake, about two miles from shore and too far from the camp to be seen with the naked eye, the canoe upset. Whether this was from a sudden gust of wind on an otherwise calm summer evening, or from a novice paddler "catching a crab" (a paddle) on the water and shifting position, is not clear, although there was a tendency for some newspaper writers (as there would be with Timiskaming fifty years later) to concoct a violent storm to overturn the canoe. There was likely no storm. In any case the big canoe upset. It had no air tanks, sponsons, or flotation chambers,..." Dillon published her book in 2008 anyway. Oyen and Dillon are deliberately wanton and reckless with regard to human life, despite the above book comment by even their own ACA Hall of Fame member Cliff Jacobson! Please note: with sponsons, more water inside creates more weight and therefore more stability. See this stability below in "awashed" U.S. Military kayaks: US Military Special Forces, 10th Airbourne, Fort Devens, MA, 200 mile ocean kayak race, the coast of Maine, between Military Kayaking Teams from about 12 NATO countries: "basic, no nonsense...dramatically increase...safety and...capabilities... It should be noted that within the North American civilian sea kayak industry there is some controversy...Sea Wings' direct competition with...the paddle float...the merits of Sea Wings...far outweigh those of the paddlefloat...During the IMKP 1994 we used Sea Wings with all our rescue boats as back-up flotation/ stability for awashed kayaks needing assistance pumping out in heavy seas. In addition, IMKP's rescue kayak was fitted with Sea Wings on a permanent basis which allowed us to be far more stable in possible rescue operations...Sea Wings dramatically increase re-entry operations with capsized boats. Indeed, even with heavily loaded boats (those approaching 1000 lbs.) most paddlers can easily re-enter the kayak. However the most notable advantage of Sea Wings is with lightly loaded boats; ie, those kayaks which are far less stable (more tippy) than fully loaded boats. Recovery operations are far more difficult in these boats and most students have extreme difficulty in mastering the necessary techniques. This is compounded in heavy seas. Sea Wings offers an almost guaranteed method of re-entering a lightly loaded kayak even in heavy seas. Stability increase in heavy seas. Paddling in extremely heavy seas is difficult. Sea Wings offer the crews an additional method of dealing with such sea states. One of the most dangerous situations a detachment can find itself in is that of towing a disabled crew with full operational loads in heavy seas at night. The employment of Sea Wings dramatically increases the safety margin. In my opinion, this is one of the sponsons' most important contributions to MAROPS... As an historical footnote it should be noted that circumpolar kayakers (Greenlanders and Inuit) employed a similar sponson/ float for stability. It differed significantly though from Sea Wings in that it was free floating; i.e., there was apparently no harness system and stability came from pushing down on the float on the side of the kayak. In addition, during the late 70's and early 80's we employed a similar system with our commo boats. Waterproof bags were blown up and hand held to the sides of the kayak while communication was conducted. The point here is that the idea of some sort of support on the sides of the kayak for stability is very old and universal." Invitational Military Kayak Paddle 1994 Evaluation Without sponsons no canoe or kayak of any type can be "pumped out", resulting in instability, re-capsize and death. Escape from certain death is the main reason for the "life raft platform concept" in the United States: USCG Level Flotation Standard 33 CFR 183. Issued April 18, 1977; Effective August 1, 1978 "Establishes level flotation standards on rowboats and outboard boats less than 20 feet in length, the boats most often involved in swamping and capsizing accidents, so that the boat will float level when swamped and provide a safe platform until rescue." The US Coast Guard report 071-01 reveals: "Canoes and kayaks have by far the highest fatality rates per million hours of exposure (. 42) as any other boat type". In use hours, canoes and kayaks have a far higher death rate than the deadliest vehicles. "Canoes and kayaks have the highest fatality rate of all boat types." (Before the Subcommittee on Coast Guard and Maritime Transportation of the U.S. House of Representatives, May 15, 2001, BOAT/U.S.) From: http://www.sponsonguy.com/AmericanCa...ionSafety.html Tim |
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