Thank you very much. We could have saved over 1,500 American citizens
who died agonizing deaths if we had followed Sea Kayaker Magazine and
Canoe and Kayak Magazine recommending sponsons, quoted on www.sponsonguy.com;
including 200 American children like the Darlington School boys.

Authors like the very astute John Dowd and Derek Hutchinson were also
very honest about sponsons, quoted on www.sponsonguy.com

Unfortunately sponsons allowed anyone to rescue themselves in any
canoe or kayak, like SAR groups with rescue craft made from a bunch of
kids' foam noodles clipped to the beam ends of a cheap, sit-in
recreational kayak. The rescue scams with endless
numbers of ridiculous rescue ideas, in a bait and switch scam model,
were as obvious as the Iraq War scam.

Thanks again, Tim

On Jun 27, 7:26*am, TimIngram wrote:
Thank you very much. We could have saved over 1,500 American citizens
who died agonizing deaths if we had followed Sea Kayaker Magazine and
Canoe and Kayak Magazine recommending sponsons, quoted onwww.sponsonguy.com;
including 200 American children like the Darlington School boys.

Authors like the very astute John Dowd and Derek Hutchinson were also
very honest about sponsons, quoted onwww.sponsonguy.com

Unfortunately sponsons allowed anyone to rescue themselves in any
canoe or kayak, like SAR groups with rescue craft made from a bunch of
kids' foam noodles clipped to the beam ends of a cheap, sit-in
recreational kayak. The rescue scams with endless
numbers of ridiculous rescue ideas, in a bait and switch scam model,
were as obvious as the Iraq War scam.

Thanks again, Tim

On Jun 27, 11:41*am, John Kuthe wrote:
On Jun 27, 7:26*am, TimIngram wrote:



Thank you very much. We could have saved over 1,500 American citizens
who died agonizing deaths if we had followed Sea Kayaker Magazine and
Canoe and Kayak Magazine recommending sponsons, quoted onwww.sponsonguy..com;
including 200 American children like the Darlington School boys.

Authors like the very astute John Dowd and Derek Hutchinson were also
very honest about sponsons, quoted onwww.sponsonguy.com

Unfortunately sponsons allowed anyone to rescue themselves in any
canoe or kayak, like SAR groups with rescue craft made from a bunch of
kids' foam noodles clipped to the beam ends of a cheap, sit-in
recreational kayak. The rescue scams with endless
numbers of ridiculous rescue ideas, in a bait and switch scam model,
were as obvious as the Iraq War scam.

Thanks again, Tim- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Apparently you endorse the killings of the 2 boys near Suwannee,
Florida, February 26, 2005: Sean Wilkinson, and Clay McKemie, both 14,
from the Darlington School in Rome, Georgia. They spent their last
minutes in terror thinking of their families, whom they would never
see again. This is the result of the actions of the American Canoe
Association and others, like, perhaps, yourself.

All of this is carefully documented on www.sponsonguy.com

Patriotic American citizens and the 9/11 Commission understand both
sponsons and airplanes. President Obama said on April 3, 2009 that
pilots trained only on small Cessna aircraft in Florida then flew
airliners into the 9/11 towers. No top gun military or American
airline veterans can do this, as you see on www.patriotsquestion911.com

The deliberate safety scam killing 200 American children by an
agonizing method (terminal waterboarding) and over 1500 other
American
citizens, by denying them sponsons to save themselves (See www.sponsonguy.com
), is comparable to the Iraq torture scandals, in magnitude of crime:
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/30978967/

Tim Ingram

Tim, I don't see anyone denying anybody anything. Everyone has the right to
use whatever they like. And they have the right to go out on the water or
not.

And I think it's a little none thinking on your part to think that anyone
endorses the killing of any kids anywhere. Let's just lock everyone up in a
glass cage and get it over with and then no one will get killed and we'll
all have a great life in the cage.

If I want to use sponsons, I'll use them, if I don't, I won't and I don't
need people like you insisting I use them.
If you are really concerned about all the kids in the world getting killed,
I think you could do a lot better going to another country and really
helping the kids by volunteering with your help. Sponsons are not going to
help them from dyeing. Are you putting all your sponson profits toward
helping that or is this just a lot of bull you are giving us and you don't
really mean what you say?

--
Bob Noble
http://www.sonic.net/bnoble
"TimIngram" wrote in message
...
On Jun 27, 11:41 am, John Kuthe wrote:
On Jun 27, 7:26 am, TimIngram wrote:



Thank you very much. We could have saved over 1,500 American citizens
who died agonizing deaths if we had followed Sea Kayaker Magazine and
Canoe and Kayak Magazine recommending sponsons, quoted
onwww.sponsonguy.com;
including 200 American children like the Darlington School boys.

Authors like the very astute John Dowd and Derek Hutchinson were also
very honest about sponsons, quoted onwww.sponsonguy.com

Unfortunately sponsons allowed anyone to rescue themselves in any
canoe or kayak, like SAR groups with rescue craft made from a bunch of
kids' foam noodles clipped to the beam ends of a cheap, sit-in
recreational kayak. The rescue scams with endless
numbers of ridiculous rescue ideas, in a bait and switch scam model,
were as obvious as the Iraq War scam.

Thanks again, Tim- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Apparently you endorse the killings of the 2 boys near Suwannee,
Florida, February 26, 2005: Sean Wilkinson, and Clay McKemie, both 14,
from the Darlington School in Rome, Georgia. They spent their last
minutes in terror thinking of their families, whom they would never
see again. This is the result of the actions of the American Canoe
Association and others, like, perhaps, yourself.

All of this is carefully documented on www.sponsonguy.com

Patriotic American citizens and the 9/11 Commission understand both
sponsons and airplanes. President Obama said on April 3, 2009 that
pilots trained only on small Cessna aircraft in Florida then flew
airliners into the 9/11 towers. No top gun military or American
airline veterans can do this, as you see on www.patriotsquestion911.com

The deliberate safety scam killing 200 American children by an
agonizing method (terminal waterboarding) and over 1500 other
American
citizens, by denying them sponsons to save themselves (See
www.sponsonguy.com
), is comparable to the Iraq torture scandals, in magnitude of crime:
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/30978967/

Tim Ingram

On Jun 29, 2:20*pm, "Bob Noble" wrote:
Tim, I don't see anyone denying anybody anything. Everyone has the right to
use whatever they like. And they have the right to go out on the water or
not.

And I think it's a little none thinking on your part to think that anyone
endorses the killing of any kids anywhere. Let's just lock everyone up in a
glass cage and get it over with and then no one will get killed and we'll
all have a great life in the cage.

If I want to use sponsons, I'll use them, if I don't, I won't and I don't
need people like you insisting I use them.
If you are really concerned about all the kids in the world getting killed,
I think you could do a lot better going to another country and really
helping the kids by volunteering with your help. Sponsons are not going to
help them from dyeing. Are you putting all your sponson profits toward
helping that or is this just a lot of bull you are giving us and you don't
really mean what you say?

--
Bob Noblehttp://www.sonic.net/bnoble"TimIngram" wrote in message

...
On Jun 27, 11:41 am, John Kuthe wrote:





On Jun 27, 7:26 am, TimIngram wrote:

Thank you very much. We could have saved over 1,500 American citizens
who died agonizing deaths if we had followed Sea Kayaker Magazine and
Canoe and Kayak Magazine recommending sponsons, quoted
onwww.sponsonguy.com;
including 200 American children like the Darlington School boys.

Authors like the very astute John Dowd and Derek Hutchinson were also
very honest about sponsons, quoted onwww.sponsonguy.com

Unfortunately sponsons allowed anyone to rescue themselves in any
canoe or kayak, like SAR groups with rescue craft made from a bunch of
kids' foam noodles clipped to the beam ends of a cheap, sit-in
recreational kayak. The rescue scams with endless
numbers of ridiculous rescue ideas, in a bait and switch scam model,
were as obvious as the Iraq War scam.

Thanks again, Tim- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Apparently you endorse the killings of the 2 boys near Suwannee,
Florida, February 26, 2005: Sean Wilkinson, and Clay McKemie, both 14,
from the Darlington School in Rome, Georgia. They spent their last
minutes in terror thinking of their families, whom they would never
see again. This is the result of the actions of the American Canoe
Association and others, like, perhaps, yourself.

All of this is carefully documented onwww.sponsonguy.com

Patriotic American citizens and the 9/11 Commission understand both
sponsons and airplanes. President Obama said on April 3, 2009 that
pilots trained only on small Cessna aircraft in Florida then flew
airliners into the 9/11 towers. No top gun military or American
airline veterans can do this, as you see onwww.patriotsquestion911.com

The deliberate safety scam killing 200 American children by an
agonizing method (terminal waterboarding) and over 1500 other
American
citizens, by denying them sponsons to save themselves (Seewww.sponsonguy.com
), is comparable to the Iraq torture scandals, in magnitude of crime:http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/30978967/

Tim Ingram- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Hi Bob:

Suwannee Florida is on the map of Florida within the National Wildlife
Refuge on the Gulf side of Florida. Good place for a school trip
unless the canoes or kayaks capsize and they have no foolproof means
to get out of the water in 5 seconds. Kids in PFDs suffer lowering of
body temperature to fatal levels. A slow, terrifying death.

How would you feel if the American Canoe Association said they had all
sorts of rescues for this emergency, when in fact they don't: see
www.sponsonguy.com

Only 50 cents worth of foam would have saved these boys, could be
anyone's kids.
Today, whether the headline says Madoff ponzi scam, or Iraq war scam,
or even the canoe and kayak scam, American citizens deserve better. Do
not lie to them or yourself. Check out www.patriotsquestion911.com to
see the best educated and most intelligent, no to mention honest
Americans speak out on lies against their very country. Read www.sponsonguy..com
The morality is very clear.

Thanks, Tim

And no, I have made no money from sponsons. I only have the
consolation from especially decent people like www.patriotsquestion911.com

Sponsons are free: 50 cents to anyone interested in real safety, like
a few SAR rescue teams, or a school group of kids. The American Canoe
Association is not free; it works like the asbestos or Monsanto lobby.
Tim

On Mon, 29 Jun 2009 05:33:34 -0700 (PDT), TimIngram
wrote:

...
Apparently you endorse the killings of the 2 boys near Suwannee,
Florida, February 26, 2005: Sean Wilkinson, and Clay McKemie, both 14,
...

Where is Suwannee, Florida? I know of a river by that name, and a
county, but know of no town or city called that.

On Jun 29, 1:50*pm, Galen Hekhuis wrote:
On Mon, 29 Jun 2009 05:33:34 -0700 (PDT), TimIngram

wrote:
...
Apparently you endorse the killings of the 2 boys near Suwannee,
Florida, February 26, 2005: Sean Wilkinson, and Clay McKemie, both 14,
...

Where is Suwannee, Florida? *I know of a river by that name, and a
county, but know of no town or city called that.

Oh, don't bother Galen, Tim is not a sentient being, he"s a robot. He
will not answer direct questions, he just uses any post or reply to
spew his boatload of libeous tripe!

Watch! :-)

John Kuthe...

On Jun 29, 3:39*pm, John Kuthe wrote:
On Jun 29, 1:50*pm, Galen Hekhuis wrote:

On Mon, 29 Jun 2009 05:33:34 -0700 (PDT), TimIngram

wrote:
...
Apparently you endorse the killings of the 2 boys near Suwannee,
Florida, February 26, 2005: Sean Wilkinson, and Clay McKemie, both 14,
...

Where is Suwannee, Florida? *I know of a river by that name, and a
county, but know of no town or city called that.

Oh, don't bother Galen, Tim is not a sentient being, he"s a robot. He
will not answer direct questions, he just uses any post or reply to
spew his boatload of libeous tripe!

Watch! :-)

John Kuthe...

Hi John:

What do you want to say to Darlington School and the grieving parents
knowing their sons died in terror like the Girl Guides and 200 other
kids? Do you enjoy apparently denying knowledge of 50 cent technology
(sponsons) for over a decade to those who need real canoe and kayak
safety? What is your considered (non-libelous) response here.

Suwannee Florida is on the map of Florida within the National Wildlife
Refuge on the Gulf side of Florida. Good place for a school trip
unless the canoes or kayaks capsize and they have no foolproof means
to get out of the water in 5 seconds. Kids in PFDs suffer lowering of
body temperature to fatal levels. A slow, terrifying death.

How would you feel if the American Canoe Association said they had all
sorts of rescues for this emergency, when in fact they don't: see
www.sponsonguy.com

Only 50 cents worth of foam would have saved these boys, could be
anyone's kids.
Today, whether the headline says Madoff ponzi scam, or Iraq war scam,
or even the canoe and kayak scam, American citizens deserve better. Do
not lie to them or yourself. Check out www.patriotsquestion911.com to
see the best educated and most intelligent, no to mention honest
Americans speak out on lies against their very country. Read www.sponsonguy..com
The morality is very clear.

Thanks, Tim

And no, I have made no money from sponsons. I only have the
consolation from especially decent people like www.patriotsquestion911.com

Sponsons are free: 50 cents to anyone interested in real safety, like
a few SAR rescue teams, or a school group of kids. The American Canoe
Association is not free; it works like the asbestos or Monsanto lobby.
Tim

On Jun 29, 2:50*pm, Galen Hekhuis wrote:
On Mon, 29 Jun 2009 05:33:34 -0700 (PDT), TimIngram

wrote:
...
Apparently you endorse the killings of the 2 boys near Suwannee,
Florida, February 26, 2005: Sean Wilkinson, and Clay McKemie, both 14,
...

Where is Suwannee, Florida? *I know of a river by that name, and a
county, but know of no town or city called that.

Hi Galen:

Please see reply to Bob:

Hi Bob:

Suwannee Florida is on the map of Florida within the National Wildlife
Refuge on the Gulf side of Florida. Good place for a school trip
unless the canoes or kayaks capsize and they have no foolproof means
to get out of the water in 5 seconds. Kids in PFDs suffer lowering of
body temperature to fatal levels. A slow, terrifying death.

How would you feel if the American Canoe Association said they had all
sorts of rescues for this emergency, when in fact they don't: see
www.sponsonguy.com

Only 50 cents worth of foam would have saved these boys, could be
anyone's kids.
Today, whether the headline says Madoff ponzi scam, or Iraq war scam,
or even the canoe and kayak scam, American citizens deserve better. Do
not lie to them or yourself. Check out www.patriotsquestion911.com to
see the best educated and most intelligent, no to mention honest
Americans speak out on lies against their very country. Read www.sponsonguy..com
The morality is very clear.

Thanks, Tim

And no, I have made no money from sponsons. I only have the
consolation from especially decent people like www.patriotsquestion911.com

Sponsons are free: 50 cents to anyone interested in real safety, like
a few SAR rescue teams, or a school group of kids. The American Canoe
Association is not free; it works like the asbestos or Monsanto lobby.
Tim

TimIngram wrote:

snip
Patriotic American citizens and the 9/11 Commission understand both
sponsons and airplanes. President Obama said on April 3, 2009 that
pilots trained only on small Cessna aircraft in Florida then flew
airliners into the 9/11 towers.
snip

What is the 9/11 reference? Are you saying a kayak with sponsons stuffed
with explosives can sink a ship just as an airplane can bring down a
building? Is that what the 9/11 Commission found?

Perhaps we should all sing (to the Mary Poppins tune "a spoon full of sugar")
A sponson full of explosives makes the big ship go down,
The big ship go down, The big ship go down,
just a sponson full of explosives to make a big ship go down,
In the most excitefull way...

Oh my, here is a thought, what if terrorists all over the world were to
use sponsons with explosive substances and attack? Might a sponson just
a bomb waiting to happen? Afterall, the government can inspect inside a
kayak and canoe, can they inspect inside sponsoooons?

How do people know what's inside sponsons? Could they be a ticking time
bomb that soneone can remotely detonate?

Is the 9/11 commission concerned about Sponson In Sleeper Service Yakking
Shash cells or SISSY's?

What is your reference to 9/11 within the framework of sponsons?

For my own personal safety, I'm going to stay away from sponsoons until the
9/11 Commission issues a statement saying they aren't a terrorist tool!

--
John Nelson
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