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Another John wrote:
On Thu, 6 Aug 2009 10:59:57 -0300, "Don White" wrote: "Lu Powell" wrote in message ... "Frogwatch" wrote in message ... The One wants you to turn in your neighbors for the crime of doubting his wisdom. If any of the express any possible negative attitudes toward Obamacare then you should immediately turn them in. They are actually serious about this. Will they send ACORN after people who fail to conform? Maybe we will be sent to re-education camps. When the govt starts telling us to denounce our neighbors, it is time to buy ammunition, or at least to start asking Dems who they think they work for. Just to clarify before you-know-who tries to kill the messenger, see: http://www.whitehouse.gov/blog/Facts...ubborn-Things/ The part that really galls me is the paragraph: "There is a lot of disinformation about health insurance reform out there, spanning from control of personal finances to end of life care. These rumors often travel just below the surface via chain emails or through casual conversation. Since we can't keep track of all of them here at the White House, we're asking for your help. If you get an email or see something on the web about health insurance reform that seems fishy, send it to ." "....casual conversation...." Holy ****! George Orwell, where are you now that we need you? Yawn.... didn't they call your actions 'treason' in wartime? Don, the activities in question came from the government's web site! I'm beginning to have my doubts about whether you are pretending. Maybe you should just get back on the tit. -- John H All decisions, even those made by liberals, are the result of binary thinking. He's not pretending, John, he's really that dumb! |
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Another John wrote:
On Thu, 6 Aug 2009 11:55:14 -0300, "Don White" wrote: "Another John" wrote in message ... On Thu, 6 Aug 2009 10:59:57 -0300, "Don White" wrote: "Lu Powell" wrote in message ... "Frogwatch" wrote in message ... The One wants you to turn in your neighbors for the crime of doubting his wisdom. If any of the express any possible negative attitudes toward Obamacare then you should immediately turn them in. They are actually serious about this. Will they send ACORN after people who fail to conform? Maybe we will be sent to re-education camps. When the govt starts telling us to denounce our neighbors, it is time to buy ammunition, or at least to start asking Dems who they think they work for. Just to clarify before you-know-who tries to kill the messenger, see: http://www.whitehouse.gov/blog/Facts...ubborn-Things/ The part that really galls me is the paragraph: "There is a lot of disinformation about health insurance reform out there, spanning from control of personal finances to end of life care. These rumors often travel just below the surface via chain emails or through casual conversation. Since we can't keep track of all of them here at the White House, we're asking for your help. If you get an email or see something on the web about health insurance reform that seems fishy, send it to ." "....casual conversation...." Holy ****! George Orwell, where are you now that we need you? Yawn.... didn't they call your actions 'treason' in wartime? Don, the activities in question came from the government's web site! I'm beginning to have my doubts about whether you are pretending. Maybe you should just get back on the tit. -- John H This is quite humorous.... you continually referring to "the tit".... Who else in here made a career of being firmly attached to Uncle Sams "tit"... even now in your twilight years. Get Harry to tell you the difference. -- John H All decisions, even those made by liberals, are the result of binary thinking. The simple version is that there is no difference. WAFA's retired union pals collect a pension, too. That money is also paid by the people in the form of higher prices for the "work" they do. The Democrats seem to think there is all of this free cash floating out there. |
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Don White wrote:
"H the K" wrote in message m... Don White wrote: "NotNow" wrote in message ... Another John wrote: On Thu, 6 Aug 2009 11:55:14 -0300, "Don White" wrote: "Another John" wrote in message ... On Thu, 6 Aug 2009 10:59:57 -0300, "Don White" wrote: "Lu Powell" wrote in message ... "Frogwatch" wrote in message ... The One wants you to turn in your neighbors for the crime of doubting his wisdom. If any of the express any possible negative attitudes toward Obamacare then you should immediately turn them in. They are actually serious about this. Will they send ACORN after people who fail to conform? Maybe we will be sent to re-education camps. When the govt starts telling us to denounce our neighbors, it is time to buy ammunition, or at least to start asking Dems who they think they work for. Just to clarify before you-know-who tries to kill the messenger, see: http://www.whitehouse.gov/blog/Facts...ubborn-Things/ The part that really galls me is the paragraph: "There is a lot of disinformation about health insurance reform out there, spanning from control of personal finances to end of life care. These rumors often travel just below the surface via chain emails or through casual conversation. Since we can't keep track of all of them here at the White House, we're asking for your help. If you get an email or see something on the web about health insurance reform that seems fishy, send it to ." "....casual conversation...." Holy ****! George Orwell, where are you now that we need you? Yawn.... didn't they call your actions 'treason' in wartime? Don, the activities in question came from the government's web site! I'm beginning to have my doubts about whether you are pretending. Maybe you should just get back on the tit. -- John H This is quite humorous.... you continually referring to "the tit".... Who else in here made a career of being firmly attached to Uncle Sams "tit"... even now in your twilight years. Get Harry to tell you the difference. -- John H All decisions, even those made by liberals, are the result of binary thinking. Funny, Don's sucking off the government tit, he was a public servant. Didn't even really serve his company with honor like you did! Worked for a 'Crown Corp...which has its own pension plan. BTW...mostly employee funded the last 20 years. Try to keep up Kevin. Not only that, but I'll bet you didn't help your country lose a way, as herring did. :) Nope... our job would have been to expose the JohnnyPrepHs of the world. Let the public know what they were up to. You keep proving that you are dumber than your last post. |
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thunder wrote:
On Thu, 06 Aug 2009 22:51:03 -0400, Wayne.B wrote: Everyone who is getting decent health care now has nothing to gain and everything to lose. I think people are beginning to understand that. I don't know your particular situation, but quite a few people *think* they have excellent coverage, until they actually try to use it. It's a fact that health care costs are the leading cause of bankruptcy in the U.S., even when people have health care insurance. Remember, most people's insurance is tied to their jobs. Get a long term illness, you lose your job and your insurance, then go bankrupt. Is there a state than will garnish wages for unpaid health care bills? There are none that I know of. |
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H the K wrote:
Lu Powell wrote: "JustWait" wrote in message ... In article , says... On Thu, 06 Aug 2009 07:32:34 -0500, thunder wrote: On Thu, 06 Aug 2009 08:21:59 -0400, Wizard of Woodstock wrote: I'm off to a discussion group at the moment - curiously enough, it's about this very issue. Should be very interesting - lots of really smart people on both sides of the aisle who respect each other's opinions and can discuss and debate rationally. Perhaps, you can give us a synopsis of the discussion. It was interesting to say the least. What I found most interesting is that nobody, other than myself and two otehr people there - one a tax accountant, the other a local doctor, had actually attempted to read the bill. I left after the congressional staffer for my rep, the AARP representative and two other people (I don't remember who they worked for - Dodd or Lieberman) said that they couldn't answer specific questions about the bill itself - they could only discuss "policy issues" related to the health care bill. I did manage to get a question in, but the answer was as stated above - they would not and could not answer specific line item questions about the bill - only about the genral over view of the bill and how it would affect Americans. And we found out that our Rep is not going to be addressing health care in individual forums but will be conducting an "open" town hall conference call. WTF? These "phone" (phony) town halls are becoming pretty popular... It is a whole lot easier to control the questions and set them up that way. The Health Care Reform bill is a farce, and everyone knows it. ~~ sigh ~~ It was interesting as I was chatting with some of my former counterparts in town government that, in general, this is not being very well received even among Democrats. Should be an interesting August. -- Wafa free since 2009 Notice how WAFA and others like him always attack the messengers, never the message. They never offer their own points in support of a proposition. Losers all. The only message the republi-thugs have is "let's disrupt the meeting so there is no discussion." No, that's you MO here, narcissist. |
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H the K wrote:
JustWait wrote: In article , says... On Fri, 07 Aug 2009 05:27:26 -0500, thunder wrote: On Thu, 06 Aug 2009 22:38:53 -0400, Wizard of Woodstock wrote: I left after the congressional staffer for my rep, the AARP representative and two other people (I don't remember who they worked for - Dodd or Lieberman) said that they couldn't answer specific questions about the bill itself - they could only discuss "policy issues" related to the health care bill. That would seem to be understandable. The bill is not in it's final form. Plus, as you say, there is a very good chance they haven't read it in it's entirety. I'm sorry my friend, but it's not understandable. I'm taking the time to read it, understand it and get specifics, directly from the bill, ask questions and participate as a citizen. I would expect our political leadership to do the same. I might also point out that informed, concerned citizens are being called a "mob" for participating in Democracy - as is my right, your right and everyone's right. I have a feeling that this is only the begining of the push back. It's about time. And you have known liars like Pelosi (remember the CIA issue which has been squashed) saying she is seeing swasticka's at these meetings and of course that is bad. Fact is, nobody can find a picture of the health care oppositition bearing swasticka's at any of these meetings. However the news showed dozens of pictures of them at anti bush rallies, hitler mustaches, etc... I guess it's only ok if it's brown shirts like ACORN, code pink, and Union officials.. Oh, and they are the only ones allowed to enjoy freedom of speech.. it's getting pretty bad.. Freedom of speech at a town hall meeting means you listen to the presenter, you ask questions, you get answers, and you are courteous to your fellow citizens who are there to ask questions, get answers, and learn from the dialogues. Of course, you and your kind fear that sort of dialogue. No, that's your MO here, WAFA. |
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On Fri, 07 Aug 2009 09:31:32 -0500, thunder
wrote: Maybe, but on health care, it's reaching critical mass, rapidly becoming 20%GDP. That is unsustainable. Health care in this country is broken, and something will be done about it. The status quo can not continue. I agree with you - in complete agreement actually. This, however, ain't the answer. Growing health care from 18% to 30% of GDP isn't sound either. Want an example? My daughter treat a lot of Medicare/Medicade, Plan B people along with her regular patient load. She and her partner have to hire what is called a "coder" - Medical Coding Specialist - just to fill out the paperwork properly to send in for reimbursement which takes it's sweet time getting back to her - as much as six to eight months in general and it's just about covers her expenses - as a rule. $85,000/yr for a Medical Coding Specialist. Her practice is her, her partner (a surgeon), an NP and a PA. Four direct care providers supported by 2 nurses, 4 clerks, an office manager and this coding specialist. That's what's broken about health care. |
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"Wizard of Woodstock" wrote in message ... On Fri, 07 Aug 2009 09:31:32 -0500, thunder wrote: Maybe, but on health care, it's reaching critical mass, rapidly becoming 20%GDP. That is unsustainable. Health care in this country is broken, and something will be done about it. The status quo can not continue. I agree with you - in complete agreement actually. This, however, ain't the answer. Growing health care from 18% to 30% of GDP isn't sound either. Want an example? My daughter treat a lot of Medicare/Medicade, Plan B people along with her regular patient load. She and her partner have to hire what is called a "coder" - Medical Coding Specialist - just to fill out the paperwork properly to send in for reimbursement which takes it's sweet time getting back to her - as much as six to eight months in general and it's just about covers her expenses - as a rule. $85,000/yr for a Medical Coding Specialist. Her practice is her, her partner (a surgeon), an NP and a PA. Four direct care providers supported by 2 nurses, 4 clerks, an office manager and this coding specialist. That's what's broken about health care. Good Lord... up here that work is usually done by a $25-30K per year receptionst. An exception might be a very large specialist group. My wife used to deal with them on a regular basis........and I can recall my next door neighbour (GP) when he was complaining he had to get a new computer when this procedure went to a direct connection, rather than the old system of mailing in claims. |
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"D" wrote in message ... H the K wrote: JustWait wrote: In article , says... Another John wrote: On Thu, 6 Aug 2009 11:55:14 -0300, "Don White" wrote: "Another John" wrote in message ... On Thu, 6 Aug 2009 10:59:57 -0300, "Don White" wrote: "Lu Powell" wrote in message ... "Frogwatch" wrote in message ... The One wants you to turn in your neighbors for the crime of doubting his wisdom. If any of the express any possible negative attitudes toward Obamacare then you should immediately turn them in. They are actually serious about this. Will they send ACORN after people who fail to conform? Maybe we will be sent to re-education camps. When the govt starts telling us to denounce our neighbors, it is time to buy ammunition, or at least to start asking Dems who they think they work for. Just to clarify before you-know-who tries to kill the messenger, see: http://www.whitehouse.gov/blog/Facts...ubborn-Things/ The part that really galls me is the paragraph: "There is a lot of disinformation about health insurance reform out there, spanning from control of personal finances to end of life care. These rumors often travel just below the surface via chain emails or through casual conversation. Since we can't keep track of all of them here at the White House, we're asking for your help. If you get an email or see something on the web about health insurance reform that seems fishy, send it to ." "....casual conversation...." Holy ****! George Orwell, where are you now that we need you? Yawn.... didn't they call your actions 'treason' in wartime? Don, the activities in question came from the government's web site! I'm beginning to have my doubts about whether you are pretending. Maybe you should just get back on the tit. -- John H This is quite humorous.... you continually referring to "the tit".... Who else in here made a career of being firmly attached to Uncle Sams "tit"... even now in your twilight years. Get Harry to tell you the difference. -- John H All decisions, even those made by liberals, are the result of binary thinking. Funny, Don's sucking off the government tit, he was a public servant. Didn't even really serve his company with honor like you did! Yeah, but I bet he has a garage full of really cool gadgets and tools.... Don has health insurance, and his health needs are being met. You cannot say the same. There aren't many Mexicans draining the cash out of their system. Eliminate that and you have a lot more money to reduce health insurance premiums for legal Americans. What's with you clowns...everything is blamed on the Mexicans. That Lt Colonel sure does indoctrinate his motley troops. |
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On 8/7/2009 8:39 PM, Wizard of Woodstock wrote:
On Fri, 07 Aug 2009 09:31:32 -0500, wrote: Maybe, but on health care, it's reaching critical mass, rapidly becoming 20%GDP. That is unsustainable. Health care in this country is broken, and something will be done about it. The status quo can not continue. I agree with you - in complete agreement actually. This, however, ain't the answer. Growing health care from 18% to 30% of GDP isn't sound either. Want an example? My daughter treat a lot of Medicare/Medicade, Plan B people along with her regular patient load. She and her partner have to hire what is called a "coder" - Medical Coding Specialist - just to fill out the paperwork properly to send in for reimbursement which takes it's sweet time getting back to her - as much as six to eight months in general and it's just about covers her expenses - as a rule. $85,000/yr for a Medical Coding Specialist. Her practice is her, her partner (a surgeon), an NP and a PA. Four direct care providers supported by 2 nurses, 4 clerks, an office manager and this coding specialist. That's what's broken about health care. $85K/year is way above the average for a coding specialist. |
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Don White wrote:
"D" wrote in message ... H the K wrote: JustWait wrote: In article , says... Another John wrote: On Thu, 6 Aug 2009 11:55:14 -0300, "Don White" wrote: "Another John" wrote in message ... On Thu, 6 Aug 2009 10:59:57 -0300, "Don White" wrote: "Lu Powell" wrote in message ... "Frogwatch" wrote in message ... The One wants you to turn in your neighbors for the crime of doubting his wisdom. If any of the express any possible negative attitudes toward Obamacare then you should immediately turn them in. They are actually serious about this. Will they send ACORN after people who fail to conform? Maybe we will be sent to re-education camps. When the govt starts telling us to denounce our neighbors, it is time to buy ammunition, or at least to start asking Dems who they think they work for. Just to clarify before you-know-who tries to kill the messenger, see: http://www.whitehouse.gov/blog/Facts...ubborn-Things/ The part that really galls me is the paragraph: "There is a lot of disinformation about health insurance reform out there, spanning from control of personal finances to end of life care. These rumors often travel just below the surface via chain emails or through casual conversation. Since we can't keep track of all of them here at the White House, we're asking for your help. If you get an email or see something on the web about health insurance reform that seems fishy, send it to ." "....casual conversation...." Holy ****! George Orwell, where are you now that we need you? Yawn.... didn't they call your actions 'treason' in wartime? Don, the activities in question came from the government's web site! I'm beginning to have my doubts about whether you are pretending. Maybe you should just get back on the tit. -- John H This is quite humorous.... you continually referring to "the tit".... Who else in here made a career of being firmly attached to Uncle Sams "tit"... even now in your twilight years. Get Harry to tell you the difference. -- John H All decisions, even those made by liberals, are the result of binary thinking. Funny, Don's sucking off the government tit, he was a public servant. Didn't even really serve his company with honor like you did! Yeah, but I bet he has a garage full of really cool gadgets and tools.... Don has health insurance, and his health needs are being met. You cannot say the same. There aren't many Mexicans draining the cash out of their system. Eliminate that and you have a lot more money to reduce health insurance premiums for legal Americans. What's with you clowns...everything is blamed on the Mexicans. That Lt Colonel sure does indoctrinate his motley troops. It's Krueger...the steaming, poisonous pile of **** that is destroying the florida aquifer. |
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D.Duck wrote:
On 8/7/2009 8:39 PM, Wizard of Woodstock wrote: On Fri, 07 Aug 2009 09:31:32 -0500, wrote: Maybe, but on health care, it's reaching critical mass, rapidly becoming 20%GDP. That is unsustainable. Health care in this country is broken, and something will be done about it. The status quo can not continue. I agree with you - in complete agreement actually. This, however, ain't the answer. Growing health care from 18% to 30% of GDP isn't sound either. Want an example? My daughter treat a lot of Medicare/Medicade, Plan B people along with her regular patient load. She and her partner have to hire what is called a "coder" - Medical Coding Specialist - just to fill out the paperwork properly to send in for reimbursement which takes it's sweet time getting back to her - as much as six to eight months in general and it's just about covers her expenses - as a rule. $85,000/yr for a Medical Coding Specialist. Her practice is her, her partner (a surgeon), an NP and a PA. Four direct care providers supported by 2 nurses, 4 clerks, an office manager and this coding specialist. That's what's broken about health care. $85K/year is way above the average for a coding specialist. Shhhh...don't confuse Tom. |
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"H the K" wrote in message m... Don White wrote: "D" wrote in message ... H the K wrote: JustWait wrote: In article , says... Another John wrote: On Thu, 6 Aug 2009 11:55:14 -0300, "Don White" wrote: "Another John" wrote in message ... On Thu, 6 Aug 2009 10:59:57 -0300, "Don White" wrote: "Lu Powell" wrote in message ... "Frogwatch" wrote in message ... The One wants you to turn in your neighbors for the crime of doubting his wisdom. If any of the express any possible negative attitudes toward Obamacare then you should immediately turn them in. They are actually serious about this. Will they send ACORN after people who fail to conform? Maybe we will be sent to re-education camps. When the govt starts telling us to denounce our neighbors, it is time to buy ammunition, or at least to start asking Dems who they think they work for. Just to clarify before you-know-who tries to kill the messenger, see: http://www.whitehouse.gov/blog/Facts...ubborn-Things/ The part that really galls me is the paragraph: "There is a lot of disinformation about health insurance reform out there, spanning from control of personal finances to end of life care. These rumors often travel just below the surface via chain emails or through casual conversation. Since we can't keep track of all of them here at the White House, we're asking for your help. If you get an email or see something on the web about health insurance reform that seems fishy, send it to ." "....casual conversation...." Holy ****! George Orwell, where are you now that we need you? Yawn.... didn't they call your actions 'treason' in wartime? Don, the activities in question came from the government's web site! I'm beginning to have my doubts about whether you are pretending. Maybe you should just get back on the tit. -- John H This is quite humorous.... you continually referring to "the tit".... Who else in here made a career of being firmly attached to Uncle Sams "tit"... even now in your twilight years. Get Harry to tell you the difference. -- John H All decisions, even those made by liberals, are the result of binary thinking. Funny, Don's sucking off the government tit, he was a public servant. Didn't even really serve his company with honor like you did! Yeah, but I bet he has a garage full of really cool gadgets and tools.... Don has health insurance, and his health needs are being met. You cannot say the same. There aren't many Mexicans draining the cash out of their system. Eliminate that and you have a lot more money to reduce health insurance premiums for legal Americans. What's with you clowns...everything is blamed on the Mexicans. That Lt Colonel sure does indoctrinate his motley troops. It's Krueger...the steaming, poisonous pile of **** that is destroying the florida aquifer. I believe that...he's doing a hell of a job on my septic tank. I'll need a double pumpout & cleaning after his remains are spread out over the drainage field. |
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"Don White" wrote in message ... "D" wrote in message ... H the K wrote: JustWait wrote: In article , says... Another John wrote: On Thu, 6 Aug 2009 11:55:14 -0300, "Don White" wrote: "Another John" wrote in message ... On Thu, 6 Aug 2009 10:59:57 -0300, "Don White" wrote: "Lu Powell" wrote in message ... "Frogwatch" wrote in message ... The One wants you to turn in your neighbors for the crime of doubting his wisdom. If any of the express any possible negative attitudes toward Obamacare then you should immediately turn them in. They are actually serious about this. Will they send ACORN after people who fail to conform? Maybe we will be sent to re-education camps. When the govt starts telling us to denounce our neighbors, it is time to buy ammunition, or at least to start asking Dems who they think they work for. Just to clarify before you-know-who tries to kill the messenger, see: http://www.whitehouse.gov/blog/Facts...ubborn-Things/ The part that really galls me is the paragraph: "There is a lot of disinformation about health insurance reform out there, spanning from control of personal finances to end of life care. These rumors often travel just below the surface via chain emails or through casual conversation. Since we can't keep track of all of them here at the White House, we're asking for your help. If you get an email or see something on the web about health insurance reform that seems fishy, send it to ." "....casual conversation...." Holy ****! George Orwell, where are you now that we need you? Yawn.... didn't they call your actions 'treason' in wartime? Don, the activities in question came from the government's web site! I'm beginning to have my doubts about whether you are pretending. Maybe you should just get back on the tit. -- John H This is quite humorous.... you continually referring to "the tit".... Who else in here made a career of being firmly attached to Uncle Sams "tit"... even now in your twilight years. Get Harry to tell you the difference. -- John H All decisions, even those made by liberals, are the result of binary thinking. Funny, Don's sucking off the government tit, he was a public servant. Didn't even really serve his company with honor like you did! Yeah, but I bet he has a garage full of really cool gadgets and tools.... Don has health insurance, and his health needs are being met. You cannot say the same. There aren't many Mexicans draining the cash out of their system. Eliminate that and you have a lot more money to reduce health insurance premiums for legal Americans. What's with you clowns...everything is blamed on the Mexicans. That Lt Colonel sure does indoctrinate his motley troops. How about some numbers on the cost of illegal immigration? I will give you a link. Banmiller is a very respected commentator on the local TV. Liberal TV station also. |
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Don White wrote:
"H the K" wrote in message m... Don White wrote: "D" wrote in message ... H the K wrote: JustWait wrote: In article , says... Another John wrote: On Thu, 6 Aug 2009 11:55:14 -0300, "Don White" wrote: "Another John" wrote in message ... On Thu, 6 Aug 2009 10:59:57 -0300, "Don White" wrote: "Lu Powell" wrote in message ... "Frogwatch" wrote in message ... The One wants you to turn in your neighbors for the crime of doubting his wisdom. If any of the express any possible negative attitudes toward Obamacare then you should immediately turn them in. They are actually serious about this. Will they send ACORN after people who fail to conform? Maybe we will be sent to re-education camps. When the govt starts telling us to denounce our neighbors, it is time to buy ammunition, or at least to start asking Dems who they think they work for. Just to clarify before you-know-who tries to kill the messenger, see: http://www.whitehouse.gov/blog/Facts...ubborn-Things/ The part that really galls me is the paragraph: "There is a lot of disinformation about health insurance reform out there, spanning from control of personal finances to end of life care. These rumors often travel just below the surface via chain emails or through casual conversation. Since we can't keep track of all of them here at the White House, we're asking for your help. If you get an email or see something on the web about health insurance reform that seems fishy, send it to ." "....casual conversation...." Holy ****! George Orwell, where are you now that we need you? Yawn.... didn't they call your actions 'treason' in wartime? Don, the activities in question came from the government's web site! I'm beginning to have my doubts about whether you are pretending. Maybe you should just get back on the tit. -- John H This is quite humorous.... you continually referring to "the tit".... Who else in here made a career of being firmly attached to Uncle Sams "tit"... even now in your twilight years. Get Harry to tell you the difference. -- John H All decisions, even those made by liberals, are the result of binary thinking. Funny, Don's sucking off the government tit, he was a public servant. Didn't even really serve his company with honor like you did! Yeah, but I bet he has a garage full of really cool gadgets and tools.... Don has health insurance, and his health needs are being met. You cannot say the same. There aren't many Mexicans draining the cash out of their system. Eliminate that and you have a lot more money to reduce health insurance premiums for legal Americans. What's with you clowns...everything is blamed on the Mexicans. That Lt Colonel sure does indoctrinate his motley troops. It's Krueger...the steaming, poisonous pile of **** that is destroying the florida aquifer. I believe that...he's doing a hell of a job on my septic tank. I'll need a double pumpout & cleaning after his remains are spread out over the drainage field. You two cesspool dwellers (Harriet and Donnie) are doing a pretty good job of polluting this newsgroup. |
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On Fri, 07 Aug 2009 20:39:41 -0400, Wizard of Woodstock wrote:
This, however, ain't the answer. Growing health care from 18% to 30% of GDP isn't sound either. Want an example? My daughter treat a lot of Medicare/Medicade, Plan B people along with her regular patient load. She and her partner have to hire what is called a "coder" - Medical Coding Specialist - just to fill out the paperwork properly to send in for reimbursement which takes it's sweet time getting back to her - as much as six to eight months in general and it's just about covers her expenses - as a rule. At least she does get paid. Have you ever asked her about dealing with private insurers? If she's like most doctors I know, she won't have anything good to say about them, either. I have a sister that worked in one of the larger, well known, health insurers, until she couldn't deal with the ethical strain. The standard practice was to deny, deny, deny, approve. The company figured that at every denial, a percentage of clients would stop, saving the company $$$. For someone dealing with an illness, or a loved ones illness, fighting an insurer is stress that is not needed. $85,000/yr for a Medical Coding Specialist. Her practice is her, her partner (a surgeon), an NP and a PA. Four direct care providers supported by 2 nurses, 4 clerks, an office manager and this coding specialist. That's what's broken about health care. You know, Medicare's overhead is @ 3%. That compares quite favorably with the 15-25% of the typical HMO. Personally, I haven't seen anything overly onerous in H.R. 3200. What exactly are your concerns about it? |
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On Fri, 07 Aug 2009 19:41:18 -0400, RLM wrote:
On Fri, 07 Aug 2009 16:27:20 -0400, John Leo wrote: On Fri, 07 Aug 2009 12:50:13 -0400, RLM wrote: On Fri, 07 Aug 2009 11:31:45 -0400, JustWait wrote: In article , says... On Fri, 07 Aug 2009 11:00:49 -0400, JustWait wrote: In article , says... On Fri, 07 Aug 2009 07:54:51 -0400, BAR wrote: H the K wrote: thunder wrote: On Thu, 06 Aug 2009 22:51:03 -0400, Wayne.B wrote: Everyone who is getting decent health care now has nothing to gain and everything to lose. I think people are beginning to understand that. I don't know your particular situation, but quite a few people *think* they have excellent coverage, until they actually try to use it. It's a fact that health care costs are the leading cause of bankruptcy in the U.S., even when people have health care insurance. Remember, most people's insurance is tied to their jobs. Get a long term illness, you lose your job and your insurance, then go bankrupt. Most of those in this newsgroup who are opposed to health care insurance reform are retired Republicans with substantial assets and health care insurance or retired military with federal health care. It's part of the Republican "I've got mine, so **** you" syndrome. They do not care about Americans who unfortunately fall into the "Get a long term illness, you lose your job and your insurance, then go bankrupt." scenario. Harry you are just plain wrong. Nobody is opposed to reforming our health care system. We are opposed to the government taking over the health care system. After the years of National Socialism under the Bush household a government takeover of health care sounds good. At least they aren't spending billions loosing another war. That was money down a rathole. 4 Americans and 3 Brits killed in Afghanistan... more to come. Did you get an erection posting this? Huh! Dopey? No... Just following the thread, try it. Sorry to have an opposing point of view but give me my due at least until it's illegal. snerk Then you recognize we are wasting our resources with wars that we have no intention of winning. Great! Write a letter to Congress and let them know of your disapproval of the foolishness that has prevailed for eight years. Here is a helpful link. Do something worth while. http://usgovinfo.about.com/od/uscong...rscongress.htm Have you written to Obama about the foolishness in which he's engaged? Are the troops in Iraq and Afghanistan free? He could have been out of both countries by the end of February. He's running *his* wars now. My "Congress Critters" quite possibly recognize my name. Obama wasn't in office when these fools started their mess. I'm a registered voter and exercise my right. That answers enough of your question. You are the one urging others to write to Congress to express disapproval of the foolishness over the past eight years. (Which would be quite pointless, BTW.) The foolishness and waste is occurring right now. Yet you focus on the past eight years. -- John H All decisions, even those made by liberals, are the result of binary thinking. |
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On Sat, 08 Aug 2009 06:13:23 -0500, thunder
wrote: On Fri, 07 Aug 2009 20:39:41 -0400, Wizard of Woodstock wrote: This, however, ain't the answer. Growing health care from 18% to 30% of GDP isn't sound either. Want an example? My daughter treat a lot of Medicare/Medicade, Plan B people along with her regular patient load. She and her partner have to hire what is called a "coder" - Medical Coding Specialist - just to fill out the paperwork properly to send in for reimbursement which takes it's sweet time getting back to her - as much as six to eight months in general and it's just about covers her expenses - as a rule. At least she does get paid. Have you ever asked her about dealing with private insurers? If she's like most doctors I know, she won't have anything good to say about them, either. I have a sister that worked in one of the larger, well known, health insurers, until she couldn't deal with the ethical strain. The standard practice was to deny, deny, deny, approve. The company figured that at every denial, a percentage of clients would stop, saving the company $$$. For someone dealing with an illness, or a loved ones illness, fighting an insurer is stress that is not needed. $85,000/yr for a Medical Coding Specialist. Her practice is her, her partner (a surgeon), an NP and a PA. Four direct care providers supported by 2 nurses, 4 clerks, an office manager and this coding specialist. That's what's broken about health care. You know, Medicare's overhead is @ 3%. That compares quite favorably with the 15-25% of the typical HMO. Personally, I haven't seen anything overly onerous in H.R. 3200. What exactly are your concerns about it? Seems like the Democrats on the hill have the same idea. They've seen nothing onerous in H.R. 3200. Of course, they've not *read* H.R. 3200! Ah, ignorance is bliss. -- John H All decisions, even those made by liberals, are the result of binary thinking. |
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"Calif Bill" wrote in message m... "Don White" wrote in message ... "D" wrote in message ... H the K wrote: JustWait wrote: In article , says... Another John wrote: On Thu, 6 Aug 2009 11:55:14 -0300, "Don White" wrote: "Another John" wrote in message ... On Thu, 6 Aug 2009 10:59:57 -0300, "Don White" wrote: "Lu Powell" wrote in message ... "Frogwatch" wrote in message ... The One wants you to turn in your neighbors for the crime of doubting his wisdom. If any of the express any possible negative attitudes toward Obamacare then you should immediately turn them in. They are actually serious about this. Will they send ACORN after people who fail to conform? Maybe we will be sent to re-education camps. When the govt starts telling us to denounce our neighbors, it is time to buy ammunition, or at least to start asking Dems who they think they work for. Just to clarify before you-know-who tries to kill the messenger, see: http://www.whitehouse.gov/blog/Facts...ubborn-Things/ The part that really galls me is the paragraph: "There is a lot of disinformation about health insurance reform out there, spanning from control of personal finances to end of life care. These rumors often travel just below the surface via chain emails or through casual conversation. Since we can't keep track of all of them here at the White House, we're asking for your help. If you get an email or see something on the web about health insurance reform that seems fishy, send it to ." "....casual conversation...." Holy ****! George Orwell, where are you now that we need you? Yawn.... didn't they call your actions 'treason' in wartime? Don, the activities in question came from the government's web site! I'm beginning to have my doubts about whether you are pretending. Maybe you should just get back on the tit. -- John H This is quite humorous.... you continually referring to "the tit".... Who else in here made a career of being firmly attached to Uncle Sams "tit"... even now in your twilight years. Get Harry to tell you the difference. -- John H All decisions, even those made by liberals, are the result of binary thinking. Funny, Don's sucking off the government tit, he was a public servant. Didn't even really serve his company with honor like you did! Yeah, but I bet he has a garage full of really cool gadgets and tools.... Don has health insurance, and his health needs are being met. You cannot say the same. There aren't many Mexicans draining the cash out of their system. Eliminate that and you have a lot more money to reduce health insurance premiums for legal Americans. What's with you clowns...everything is blamed on the Mexicans. That Lt Colonel sure does indoctrinate his motley troops. How about some numbers on the cost of illegal immigration? I will give you a link. Banmiller is a very respected commentator on the local TV. Liberal TV station also. What the $%^%$! Aren't you the guy who picks up these illegal day workers in those make-shift lines behind the Home Depot? |
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Don White wrote:
"Calif Bill" wrote in message m... "Don White" wrote in message ... "D" wrote in message ... H the K wrote: JustWait wrote: In article , says... Another John wrote: On Thu, 6 Aug 2009 11:55:14 -0300, "Don White" wrote: "Another John" wrote in message ... On Thu, 6 Aug 2009 10:59:57 -0300, "Don White" wrote: "Lu Powell" wrote in message ... "Frogwatch" wrote in message ... The One wants you to turn in your neighbors for the crime of doubting his wisdom. If any of the express any possible negative attitudes toward Obamacare then you should immediately turn them in. They are actually serious about this. Will they send ACORN after people who fail to conform? Maybe we will be sent to re-education camps. When the govt starts telling us to denounce our neighbors, it is time to buy ammunition, or at least to start asking Dems who they think they work for. Just to clarify before you-know-who tries to kill the messenger, see: http://www.whitehouse.gov/blog/Facts...ubborn-Things/ The part that really galls me is the paragraph: "There is a lot of disinformation about health insurance reform out there, spanning from control of personal finances to end of life care. These rumors often travel just below the surface via chain emails or through casual conversation. Since we can't keep track of all of them here at the White House, we're asking for your help. If you get an email or see something on the web about health insurance reform that seems fishy, send it to ." "....casual conversation...." Holy ****! George Orwell, where are you now that we need you? Yawn.... didn't they call your actions 'treason' in wartime? Don, the activities in question came from the government's web site! I'm beginning to have my doubts about whether you are pretending. Maybe you should just get back on the tit. -- John H This is quite humorous.... you continually referring to "the tit".... Who else in here made a career of being firmly attached to Uncle Sams "tit"... even now in your twilight years. Get Harry to tell you the difference. -- John H All decisions, even those made by liberals, are the result of binary thinking. Funny, Don's sucking off the government tit, he was a public servant. Didn't even really serve his company with honor like you did! Yeah, but I bet he has a garage full of really cool gadgets and tools.... Don has health insurance, and his health needs are being met. You cannot say the same. There aren't many Mexicans draining the cash out of their system. Eliminate that and you have a lot more money to reduce health insurance premiums for legal Americans. What's with you clowns...everything is blamed on the Mexicans. That Lt Colonel sure does indoctrinate his motley troops. How about some numbers on the cost of illegal immigration? I will give you a link. Banmiller is a very respected commentator on the local TV. Liberal TV station also. What the $%^%$! Aren't you the guy who picks up these illegal day workers in those make-shift lines behind the Home Depot? Yeah, but the adult illegals Bilious used to hire now demand an hourly rate equal to have the federal minimum wage, so our boy Bill has to scout the playgrounds to hire the kids of illegals. They work for less. |
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H the K wrote:
BAR wrote: H the K wrote: Please, Tom, save your b.s. for the weak-minded "believers" here, eh? It is patently obvious the Republicans are engaged in an organized campaign to disrupt town hall meetings discussing health care issues. Great spin Harry. Too bad it isn't true. Just like the tea parties the bi-partisan uprising surrounding health care is a grass roots genuine one and not a David Axelrod astro-turf manufactured one. Videos taken at these meetings are all over the news, bertie. Maybe not on fox, though, eh? Everyone knows that the violence at the town halls and the tea parties started when the union thugs and Democrat party thugs started showing up. Again, nice try at spinning but the public record does not support you position. I appreciate that many Americans are concerned. Some are going to town hall meetings to get answers. Sadly, at some of those meetings, Republi-thugs are disrupting the meetings. The Community Organizer and Chief Barack Hussein Obama has unleashed the his corps of brown ****s, known as ACORN, and the true thugs will be out in force now. As we have already seen ACORN will be packing the town hall meetings before the doors are "opened" to the public only to find that the town hall is already at capacity. Good by 1st amendment. Oh...my personal health care insurance has no connection with my self-employed status. Sorry. :) We know you have been leeching off of a union that you haven't actually worked for in 40 years. It is too bad they haven't figured out that you are only a member to reap the benefits from those poor working stiffs. You know nothing of the kind. Perhaps if you had gone to college instead of into the marines, your mind might have been trained. Sure I do you have stated that your affiliation with the union was so that you could take advantage of their benefits. You haven't done a days worth of physical labor in 40 years either. College is over rated. |
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Lu Powell wrote:
"JustWait" wrote in message ... In article , says... On Thu, 06 Aug 2009 07:32:34 -0500, thunder wrote: On Thu, 06 Aug 2009 08:21:59 -0400, Wizard of Woodstock wrote: I'm off to a discussion group at the moment - curiously enough, it's about this very issue. Should be very interesting - lots of really smart people on both sides of the aisle who respect each other's opinions and can discuss and debate rationally. Perhaps, you can give us a synopsis of the discussion. It was interesting to say the least. What I found most interesting is that nobody, other than myself and two otehr people there - one a tax accountant, the other a local doctor, had actually attempted to read the bill. I left after the congressional staffer for my rep, the AARP representative and two other people (I don't remember who they worked for - Dodd or Lieberman) said that they couldn't answer specific questions about the bill itself - they could only discuss "policy issues" related to the health care bill. I did manage to get a question in, but the answer was as stated above - they would not and could not answer specific line item questions about the bill - only about the genral over view of the bill and how it would affect Americans. And we found out that our Rep is not going to be addressing health care in individual forums but will be conducting an "open" town hall conference call. WTF? These "phone" (phony) town halls are becoming pretty popular... It is a whole lot easier to control the questions and set them up that way. The Health Care Reform bill is a farce, and everyone knows it. ~~ sigh ~~ It was interesting as I was chatting with some of my former counterparts in town government that, in general, this is not being very well received even among Democrats. Should be an interesting August. -- Wafa free since 2009 Notice how WAFA and others like him always attack the messengers, never the message. They never offer their own points in support of a proposition. Losers all. WAFA and his ilk don't care about the content of the bill. All they care about is putting another 1 in the W column. To them it is a game, a competition, a sport and reality has no place in what they do. When Congress exempts itself from the health care reform you know it is a piece of crap. |
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H the K wrote:
JustWait wrote: In article , says... On Fri, 07 Aug 2009 05:27:26 -0500, thunder wrote: On Thu, 06 Aug 2009 22:38:53 -0400, Wizard of Woodstock wrote: I left after the congressional staffer for my rep, the AARP representative and two other people (I don't remember who they worked for - Dodd or Lieberman) said that they couldn't answer specific questions about the bill itself - they could only discuss "policy issues" related to the health care bill. That would seem to be understandable. The bill is not in it's final form. Plus, as you say, there is a very good chance they haven't read it in it's entirety. I'm sorry my friend, but it's not understandable. I'm taking the time to read it, understand it and get specifics, directly from the bill, ask questions and participate as a citizen. I would expect our political leadership to do the same. I might also point out that informed, concerned citizens are being called a "mob" for participating in Democracy - as is my right, your right and everyone's right. I have a feeling that this is only the begining of the push back. It's about time. And you have known liars like Pelosi (remember the CIA issue which has been squashed) saying she is seeing swasticka's at these meetings and of course that is bad. Fact is, nobody can find a picture of the health care oppositition bearing swasticka's at any of these meetings. However the news showed dozens of pictures of them at anti bush rallies, hitler mustaches, etc... I guess it's only ok if it's brown shirts like ACORN, code pink, and Union officials.. Oh, and they are the only ones allowed to enjoy freedom of speech.. it's getting pretty bad.. Freedom of speech at a town hall meeting means you listen to the presenter, you ask questions, you get answers, and you are courteous to your fellow citizens who are there to ask questions, get answers, and learn from the dialogues. Of course, you and your kind fear that sort of dialogue. It sucks to be on the receiving end of the people's dissatisfaction. |
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On Sat, 08 Aug 2009 06:13:23 -0500, thunder
wrote: On Fri, 07 Aug 2009 20:39:41 -0400, Wizard of Woodstock wrote: This, however, ain't the answer. Growing health care from 18% to 30% of GDP isn't sound either. Want an example? My daughter treat a lot of Medicare/Medicade, Plan B people along with her regular patient load. She and her partner have to hire what is called a "coder" - Medical Coding Specialist - just to fill out the paperwork properly to send in for reimbursement which takes it's sweet time getting back to her - as much as six to eight months in general and it's just about covers her expenses - as a rule. At least she does get paid. Have you ever asked her about dealing with private insurers? If she's like most doctors I know, she won't have anything good to say about them, either. I have a sister that worked in one of the larger, well known, health insurers, until she couldn't deal with the ethical strain. The standard practice was to deny, deny, deny, approve. The company figured that at every denial, a percentage of clients would stop, saving the company $$$. For someone dealing with an illness, or a loved ones illness, fighting an insurer is stress that is not needed. $85,000/yr for a Medical Coding Specialist. Her practice is her, her partner (a surgeon), an NP and a PA. Four direct care providers supported by 2 nurses, 4 clerks, an office manager and this coding specialist. That's what's broken about health care. You know, Medicare's overhead is @ 3%. That compares quite favorably with the 15-25% of the typical HMO. Personally, I haven't seen anything overly onerous in H.R. 3200. What exactly are your concerns about it? When my wife was in the hospital I spent hours on the phone when I started getting bills from providers that should have been covered by my private insurance. Blue Cross Illinois - a major HMO. Some were "coding errors." Who said they were coding errors? Why, Blue Cross Illinois of course. BTW, most of time on the phone was with a company salaried insurance "ombudsman." I suspect she made a good salary. There were other stalling tactics beyond coding errors. The private bureaucracies passing the buck were legion, and made any gov office, even the DMV, look like a model of efficiency. If it hadn't been for the company woman handling most of it I could have gone postal. Standardization and computerization of coding should eliminate this bull**** right away. Should be part of any plan of reform, however it goes. --Vic |
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thunder wrote:
On Fri, 07 Aug 2009 09:41:02 -0400, Yogi of Woodstock wrote: That would seem to be understandable. The bill is not in it's final form. Plus, as you say, there is a very good chance they haven't read it in it's entirety. I'm sorry my friend, but it's not understandable. I'm taking the time to read it, understand it and get specifics, directly from the bill, ask questions and participate as a citizen. I would expect our political leadership to do the same. I respect your ambition. You have considerable reading ahead of you. Once you get through the House bill, there will be the Senate bill, then the reconciliation bill, ... I might also point out that informed, concerned citizens are being called a "mob" for participating in Democracy - as is my right, your right and everyone's right. Most people understand the differences between concerned citizens, and mobs. Mobs are disruptive. But hey, whatever floats your boat. I'm sure our democracy will survive. I have a feeling that this is only the begining of the push back. It's about time. Maybe, but on health care, it's reaching critical mass, rapidly becoming 20%GDP. That is unsustainable. Health care in this country is broken, and something will be done about it. The status quo can not continue. Congress is not addressing the causes of the increase in health care costs. The health insurance issue is secondary or better it is tertiary. If Congress succeeds in taking over health care they way the will manage the increase in costs is to ration health care. The major drug companies will move off shore and they will ignore the US market due to the fact that they will have a limited ability to profit. I hope you like waiting for drugs to be available as generics. What is the biggest cost component in the delivery of health care? What is the second biggest cost component in the delivery of health care? Put this list together with the top 20 cost components in the delivery of health care and you will have a list of areas to try and reduce the costs of delivering of health care. Health insurance is not a cost component in the delivery of health, don't try and put it on the list, it is a method of payment. |
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Wizard of Woodstock wrote:
On Fri, 07 Aug 2009 09:31:32 -0500, thunder wrote: Maybe, but on health care, it's reaching critical mass, rapidly becoming 20%GDP. That is unsustainable. Health care in this country is broken, and something will be done about it. The status quo can not continue. I agree with you - in complete agreement actually. This, however, ain't the answer. Growing health care from 18% to 30% of GDP isn't sound either. Want an example? My daughter treat a lot of Medicare/Medicade, Plan B people along with her regular patient load. She and her partner have to hire what is called a "coder" - Medical Coding Specialist - just to fill out the paperwork properly to send in for reimbursement which takes it's sweet time getting back to her - as much as six to eight months in general and it's just about covers her expenses - as a rule. $85,000/yr for a Medical Coding Specialist. Her practice is her, her partner (a surgeon), an NP and a PA. Four direct care providers supported by 2 nurses, 4 clerks, an office manager and this coding specialist. That's what's broken about health care. Just like I said earlier, the cost of health care delivery is the problem. |
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D.Duck wrote:
On 8/7/2009 8:39 PM, Wizard of Woodstock wrote: On Fri, 07 Aug 2009 09:31:32 -0500, wrote: Maybe, but on health care, it's reaching critical mass, rapidly becoming 20%GDP. That is unsustainable. Health care in this country is broken, and something will be done about it. The status quo can not continue. I agree with you - in complete agreement actually. This, however, ain't the answer. Growing health care from 18% to 30% of GDP isn't sound either. Want an example? My daughter treat a lot of Medicare/Medicade, Plan B people along with her regular patient load. She and her partner have to hire what is called a "coder" - Medical Coding Specialist - just to fill out the paperwork properly to send in for reimbursement which takes it's sweet time getting back to her - as much as six to eight months in general and it's just about covers her expenses - as a rule. $85,000/yr for a Medical Coding Specialist. Her practice is her, her partner (a surgeon), an NP and a PA. Four direct care providers supported by 2 nurses, 4 clerks, an office manager and this coding specialist. That's what's broken about health care. $85K/year is way above the average for a coding specialist. That could be the fully burdened rate. |
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On Sat, 08 Aug 2009 11:46:59 -0500, Vic Smith
wrote: Standardization and computerization of coding should eliminate this bull**** right away. Should be part of any plan of reform, however it goes. Your assuming that the insurance companies want to fix it. Unfortunately there's a lot of circumstantial evidence that they regard the delays as a business opportunity. |
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On Sat, 08 Aug 2009 13:35:15 -0400, Wayne.B
wrote: On Sat, 08 Aug 2009 11:46:59 -0500, Vic Smith wrote: Standardization and computerization of coding should eliminate this bull**** right away. Should be part of any plan of reform, however it goes. Your assuming that the insurance companies want to fix it. Unfortunately there's a lot of circumstantial evidence that they regard the delays as a business opportunity. No, I don't assume that. My post made pretty clear I was skeptical about the so-called coding errors. Reform is also unwanted by the major providers. The scumbag doing the scare tactic ads opposing reform led the company that was fined $1.5 billion by the gov for medicare fraud. Yes, $1.5 billion. Might be a record there. I have no illusions about the business end. --Vic |
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"Don White" wrote in message ... "Calif Bill" wrote in message m... "Don White" wrote in message ... "D" wrote in message ... H the K wrote: JustWait wrote: In article , says... Another John wrote: On Thu, 6 Aug 2009 11:55:14 -0300, "Don White" wrote: "Another John" wrote in message ... On Thu, 6 Aug 2009 10:59:57 -0300, "Don White" wrote: "Lu Powell" wrote in message ... "Frogwatch" wrote in message ... The One wants you to turn in your neighbors for the crime of doubting his wisdom. If any of the express any possible negative attitudes toward Obamacare then you should immediately turn them in. They are actually serious about this. Will they send ACORN after people who fail to conform? Maybe we will be sent to re-education camps. When the govt starts telling us to denounce our neighbors, it is time to buy ammunition, or at least to start asking Dems who they think they work for. Just to clarify before you-know-who tries to kill the messenger, see: http://www.whitehouse.gov/blog/Facts...ubborn-Things/ The part that really galls me is the paragraph: "There is a lot of disinformation about health insurance reform out there, spanning from control of personal finances to end of life care. These rumors often travel just below the surface via chain emails or through casual conversation. Since we can't keep track of all of them here at the White House, we're asking for your help. If you get an email or see something on the web about health insurance reform that seems fishy, send it to ." "....casual conversation...." Holy ****! George Orwell, where are you now that we need you? Yawn.... didn't they call your actions 'treason' in wartime? Don, the activities in question came from the government's web site! I'm beginning to have my doubts about whether you are pretending. Maybe you should just get back on the tit. -- John H This is quite humorous.... you continually referring to "the tit".... Who else in here made a career of being firmly attached to Uncle Sams "tit"... even now in your twilight years. Get Harry to tell you the difference. -- John H All decisions, even those made by liberals, are the result of binary thinking. Funny, Don's sucking off the government tit, he was a public servant. Didn't even really serve his company with honor like you did! Yeah, but I bet he has a garage full of really cool gadgets and tools.... Don has health insurance, and his health needs are being met. You cannot say the same. There aren't many Mexicans draining the cash out of their system. Eliminate that and you have a lot more money to reduce health insurance premiums for legal Americans. What's with you clowns...everything is blamed on the Mexicans. That Lt Colonel sure does indoctrinate his motley troops. How about some numbers on the cost of illegal immigration? I will give you a link. Banmiller is a very respected commentator on the local TV. Liberal TV station also. What the $%^%$! Aren't you the guy who picks up these illegal day workers in those make-shift lines behind the Home Depot? Why would you say that? |
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"H the K" wrote in message ... Don White wrote: "Calif Bill" wrote in message m... "Don White" wrote in message ... "D" wrote in message ... H the K wrote: JustWait wrote: In article , says... Another John wrote: On Thu, 6 Aug 2009 11:55:14 -0300, "Don White" wrote: "Another John" wrote in message ... On Thu, 6 Aug 2009 10:59:57 -0300, "Don White" wrote: "Lu Powell" wrote in message ... "Frogwatch" wrote in message ... The One wants you to turn in your neighbors for the crime of doubting his wisdom. If any of the express any possible negative attitudes toward Obamacare then you should immediately turn them in. They are actually serious about this. Will they send ACORN after people who fail to conform? Maybe we will be sent to re-education camps. When the govt starts telling us to denounce our neighbors, it is time to buy ammunition, or at least to start asking Dems who they think they work for. Just to clarify before you-know-who tries to kill the messenger, see: http://www.whitehouse.gov/blog/Facts...ubborn-Things/ The part that really galls me is the paragraph: "There is a lot of disinformation about health insurance reform out there, spanning from control of personal finances to end of life care. These rumors often travel just below the surface via chain emails or through casual conversation. Since we can't keep track of all of them here at the White House, we're asking for your help. If you get an email or see something on the web about health insurance reform that seems fishy, send it to ." "....casual conversation...." Holy ****! George Orwell, where are you now that we need you? Yawn.... didn't they call your actions 'treason' in wartime? Don, the activities in question came from the government's web site! I'm beginning to have my doubts about whether you are pretending. Maybe you should just get back on the tit. -- John H This is quite humorous.... you continually referring to "the tit".... Who else in here made a career of being firmly attached to Uncle Sams "tit"... even now in your twilight years. Get Harry to tell you the difference. -- John H All decisions, even those made by liberals, are the result of binary thinking. Funny, Don's sucking off the government tit, he was a public servant. Didn't even really serve his company with honor like you did! Yeah, but I bet he has a garage full of really cool gadgets and tools.... Don has health insurance, and his health needs are being met. You cannot say the same. There aren't many Mexicans draining the cash out of their system. Eliminate that and you have a lot more money to reduce health insurance premiums for legal Americans. What's with you clowns...everything is blamed on the Mexicans. That Lt Colonel sure does indoctrinate his motley troops. How about some numbers on the cost of illegal immigration? I will give you a link. Banmiller is a very respected commentator on the local TV. Liberal TV station also. What the $%^%$! Aren't you the guy who picks up these illegal day workers in those make-shift lines behind the Home Depot? Yeah, but the adult illegals Bilious used to hire now demand an hourly rate equal to have the federal minimum wage, so our boy Bill has to scout the playgrounds to hire the kids of illegals. They work for less. I still see you are a still a bag of **** and lies. |
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Calif Bill wrote:
"Don White" wrote in message ... "Calif Bill" wrote in message m... "Don White" wrote in message ... "D" wrote in message ... H the K wrote: JustWait wrote: In article , says... Another John wrote: On Thu, 6 Aug 2009 11:55:14 -0300, "Don White" wrote: "Another John" wrote in message ... On Thu, 6 Aug 2009 10:59:57 -0300, "Don White" wrote: "Lu Powell" wrote in message ... "Frogwatch" wrote in message ... The One wants you to turn in your neighbors for the crime of doubting his wisdom. If any of the express any possible negative attitudes toward Obamacare then you should immediately turn them in. They are actually serious about this. Will they send ACORN after people who fail to conform? Maybe we will be sent to re-education camps. When the govt starts telling us to denounce our neighbors, it is time to buy ammunition, or at least to start asking Dems who they think they work for. Just to clarify before you-know-who tries to kill the messenger, see: http://www.whitehouse.gov/blog/Facts...ubborn-Things/ The part that really galls me is the paragraph: "There is a lot of disinformation about health insurance reform out there, spanning from control of personal finances to end of life care. These rumors often travel just below the surface via chain emails or through casual conversation. Since we can't keep track of all of them here at the White House, we're asking for your help. If you get an email or see something on the web about health insurance reform that seems fishy, send it to ." "....casual conversation...." Holy ****! George Orwell, where are you now that we need you? Yawn.... didn't they call your actions 'treason' in wartime? Don, the activities in question came from the government's web site! I'm beginning to have my doubts about whether you are pretending. Maybe you should just get back on the tit. -- John H This is quite humorous.... you continually referring to "the tit".... Who else in here made a career of being firmly attached to Uncle Sams "tit"... even now in your twilight years. Get Harry to tell you the difference. -- John H All decisions, even those made by liberals, are the result of binary thinking. Funny, Don's sucking off the government tit, he was a public servant. Didn't even really serve his company with honor like you did! Yeah, but I bet he has a garage full of really cool gadgets and tools.... Don has health insurance, and his health needs are being met. You cannot say the same. There aren't many Mexicans draining the cash out of their system. Eliminate that and you have a lot more money to reduce health insurance premiums for legal Americans. What's with you clowns...everything is blamed on the Mexicans. That Lt Colonel sure does indoctrinate his motley troops. How about some numbers on the cost of illegal immigration? I will give you a link. Banmiller is a very respected commentator on the local TV. Liberal TV station also. What the $%^%$! Aren't you the guy who picks up these illegal day workers in those make-shift lines behind the Home Depot? Why would you say that? Why? Bill you know the answer. It's because he's a friggin' idiot! |
Denounce your neighbors
"Calif Bill" wrote in message ... "Don White" wrote in message ... "Calif Bill" wrote in message m... "Don White" wrote in message ... "D" wrote in message ... H the K wrote: JustWait wrote: In article , says... Another John wrote: On Thu, 6 Aug 2009 11:55:14 -0300, "Don White" wrote: "Another John" wrote in message ... On Thu, 6 Aug 2009 10:59:57 -0300, "Don White" wrote: "Lu Powell" wrote in message ... "Frogwatch" wrote in message ... The One wants you to turn in your neighbors for the crime of doubting his wisdom. If any of the express any possible negative attitudes toward Obamacare then you should immediately turn them in. They are actually serious about this. Will they send ACORN after people who fail to conform? Maybe we will be sent to re-education camps. When the govt starts telling us to denounce our neighbors, it is time to buy ammunition, or at least to start asking Dems who they think they work for. Just to clarify before you-know-who tries to kill the messenger, see: http://www.whitehouse.gov/blog/Facts...ubborn-Things/ The part that really galls me is the paragraph: "There is a lot of disinformation about health insurance reform out there, spanning from control of personal finances to end of life care. These rumors often travel just below the surface via chain emails or through casual conversation. Since we can't keep track of all of them here at the White House, we're asking for your help. If you get an email or see something on the web about health insurance reform that seems fishy, send it to ." "....casual conversation...." Holy ****! George Orwell, where are you now that we need you? Yawn.... didn't they call your actions 'treason' in wartime? Don, the activities in question came from the government's web site! I'm beginning to have my doubts about whether you are pretending. Maybe you should just get back on the tit. -- John H This is quite humorous.... you continually referring to "the tit".... Who else in here made a career of being firmly attached to Uncle Sams "tit"... even now in your twilight years. Get Harry to tell you the difference. -- John H All decisions, even those made by liberals, are the result of binary thinking. Funny, Don's sucking off the government tit, he was a public servant. Didn't even really serve his company with honor like you did! Yeah, but I bet he has a garage full of really cool gadgets and tools.... Don has health insurance, and his health needs are being met. You cannot say the same. There aren't many Mexicans draining the cash out of their system. Eliminate that and you have a lot more money to reduce health insurance premiums for legal Americans. What's with you clowns...everything is blamed on the Mexicans. That Lt Colonel sure does indoctrinate his motley troops. How about some numbers on the cost of illegal immigration? I will give you a link. Banmiller is a very respected commentator on the local TV. Liberal TV station also. What the $%^%$! Aren't you the guy who picks up these illegal day workers in those make-shift lines behind the Home Depot? Why would you say that? Believe I read it in here. Well...do ya? |
Denounce your neighbors
Calif Bill wrote:
"H the K" wrote in message ... Don White wrote: "Calif Bill" wrote in message m... "Don White" wrote in message ... "D" wrote in message ... H the K wrote: JustWait wrote: In article , says... Another John wrote: On Thu, 6 Aug 2009 11:55:14 -0300, "Don White" wrote: "Another John" wrote in message ... On Thu, 6 Aug 2009 10:59:57 -0300, "Don White" wrote: "Lu Powell" wrote in message ... "Frogwatch" wrote in message ... The One wants you to turn in your neighbors for the crime of doubting his wisdom. If any of the express any possible negative attitudes toward Obamacare then you should immediately turn them in. They are actually serious about this. Will they send ACORN after people who fail to conform? Maybe we will be sent to re-education camps. When the govt starts telling us to denounce our neighbors, it is time to buy ammunition, or at least to start asking Dems who they think they work for. Just to clarify before you-know-who tries to kill the messenger, see: http://www.whitehouse.gov/blog/Facts...ubborn-Things/ The part that really galls me is the paragraph: "There is a lot of disinformation about health insurance reform out there, spanning from control of personal finances to end of life care. These rumors often travel just below the surface via chain emails or through casual conversation. Since we can't keep track of all of them here at the White House, we're asking for your help. If you get an email or see something on the web about health insurance reform that seems fishy, send it to ." "....casual conversation...." Holy ****! George Orwell, where are you now that we need you? Yawn.... didn't they call your actions 'treason' in wartime? Don, the activities in question came from the government's web site! I'm beginning to have my doubts about whether you are pretending. Maybe you should just get back on the tit. -- John H This is quite humorous.... you continually referring to "the tit".... Who else in here made a career of being firmly attached to Uncle Sams "tit"... even now in your twilight years. Get Harry to tell you the difference. -- John H All decisions, even those made by liberals, are the result of binary thinking. Funny, Don's sucking off the government tit, he was a public servant. Didn't even really serve his company with honor like you did! Yeah, but I bet he has a garage full of really cool gadgets and tools.... Don has health insurance, and his health needs are being met. You cannot say the same. There aren't many Mexicans draining the cash out of their system. Eliminate that and you have a lot more money to reduce health insurance premiums for legal Americans. What's with you clowns...everything is blamed on the Mexicans. That Lt Colonel sure does indoctrinate his motley troops. How about some numbers on the cost of illegal immigration? I will give you a link. Banmiller is a very respected commentator on the local TV. Liberal TV station also. What the $%^%$! Aren't you the guy who picks up these illegal day workers in those make-shift lines behind the Home Depot? Yeah, but the adult illegals Bilious used to hire now demand an hourly rate equal to have the federal minimum wage, so our boy Bill has to scout the playgrounds to hire the kids of illegals. They work for less. I still see you are a still a bag of **** and lies. I often wonder if Harry has EVER told the truth about anything! Did you know that there is only ONE boat registered in Maryland to Harry? Oh, and my friend there checked for his wife, too. Zip. Lobster boat my ass! |
Denounce your neighbors
NotNow wrote:
Calif Bill wrote: attitudes toward Obamacare then you should immediately turn them in. They are actually serious about this. Will they send ACORN after people who fail to conform? Maybe we will be sent to re-education camps. When the govt starts telling us to denounce our neighbors, it is time to buy ammunition, or at least to start asking Dems who they think they work for. Just to clarify before you-know-who tries to kill the messenger, see: http://www.whitehouse.gov/blog/Facts...ubborn-Things/ The part that really galls me is the paragraph: "There is a lot of disinformation about health insurance reform out there, spanning from control of personal finances to end of life care. These rumors often travel just below the surface via chain emails or through casual conversation. Since we can't keep track of all of them here at the White House, we're asking for your help. If you get an email or see something on the web about health insurance reform that seems fishy, send it to ." "....casual conversation...." Holy ****! George Orwell, where are you now that we need you? I often wonder if Harry has EVER told the truth about anything! Did you know that there is only ONE boat registered in Maryland to Harry? Oh, and my friend there checked for his wife, too. Zip. Lobster boat my ass! obama still has not removed the illegal site. He apparently does not believe in the law, at least does not believe the law applies to him. This type of activity became illegal in the 1970. |
Denounce your neighbors
comerad hussein is a douchebag.......
is his illegal aunt still sucking up my tax $$ today? On Aug 8, 2:12*pm, Keith Nuttle wrote: NotNow wrote: Calif Bill wrote: attitudes toward Obamacare then you should immediately turn them in. They are actually serious about this. *Will they send ACORN after people who fail to conform? *Maybe we will be sent to re-education camps. When the govt starts telling us to denounce our neighbors, it is time to buy ammunition, or at least to start asking Dems who they think they work for. Just to clarify before you-know-who tries to kill the messenger, see: http://www.whitehouse.gov/blog/Facts...ubborn-Things/ The part that really galls me is the paragraph: "There is a lot of disinformation about health insurance reform out there, spanning from control of personal finances to end of life care. These rumors often travel just below the surface via chain emails or through casual conversation. *Since we can't keep track of all of them here at the White House, we're asking for your help. If you get an email or see something on the web about health insurance reform that seems fishy, send it to ." "....casual conversation...." Holy ****! George Orwell, where are you now that we need you? I often wonder if Harry has EVER told the truth about anything! Did you know that there is only ONE boat registered in Maryland to Harry? Oh, and my friend there checked for his wife, too. Zip. Lobster boat my ass! obama still has not removed the illegal site. *He apparently does not believe in the law, at least does not believe the law applies to him. This type of activity became illegal in the 1970.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - |
Denounce your neighbors
"Don White" wrote in message ... "Calif Bill" wrote in message ... "Don White" wrote in message ... "Calif Bill" wrote in message m... "Don White" wrote in message ... "D" wrote in message ... H the K wrote: JustWait wrote: In article , says... Another John wrote: On Thu, 6 Aug 2009 11:55:14 -0300, "Don White" wrote: "Another John" wrote in message ... On Thu, 6 Aug 2009 10:59:57 -0300, "Don White" wrote: "Lu Powell" wrote in message ... "Frogwatch" wrote in message ... The One wants you to turn in your neighbors for the crime of doubting his wisdom. If any of the express any possible negative attitudes toward Obamacare then you should immediately turn them in. They are actually serious about this. Will they send ACORN after people who fail to conform? Maybe we will be sent to re-education camps. When the govt starts telling us to denounce our neighbors, it is time to buy ammunition, or at least to start asking Dems who they think they work for. Just to clarify before you-know-who tries to kill the messenger, see: http://www.whitehouse.gov/blog/Facts...ubborn-Things/ The part that really galls me is the paragraph: "There is a lot of disinformation about health insurance reform out there, spanning from control of personal finances to end of life care. These rumors often travel just below the surface via chain emails or through casual conversation. Since we can't keep track of all of them here at the White House, we're asking for your help. If you get an email or see something on the web about health insurance reform that seems fishy, send it to ." "....casual conversation...." Holy ****! George Orwell, where are you now that we need you? Yawn.... didn't they call your actions 'treason' in wartime? Don, the activities in question came from the government's web site! I'm beginning to have my doubts about whether you are pretending. Maybe you should just get back on the tit. -- John H This is quite humorous.... you continually referring to "the tit".... Who else in here made a career of being firmly attached to Uncle Sams "tit"... even now in your twilight years. Get Harry to tell you the difference. -- John H All decisions, even those made by liberals, are the result of binary thinking. Funny, Don's sucking off the government tit, he was a public servant. Didn't even really serve his company with honor like you did! Yeah, but I bet he has a garage full of really cool gadgets and tools.... Don has health insurance, and his health needs are being met. You cannot say the same. There aren't many Mexicans draining the cash out of their system. Eliminate that and you have a lot more money to reduce health insurance premiums for legal Americans. What's with you clowns...everything is blamed on the Mexicans. That Lt Colonel sure does indoctrinate his motley troops. How about some numbers on the cost of illegal immigration? I will give you a link. Banmiller is a very respected commentator on the local TV. Liberal TV station also. What the $%^%$! Aren't you the guy who picks up these illegal day workers in those make-shift lines behind the Home Depot? Why would you say that? Believe I read it in here. Well...do ya? You read it here because your buddy Harry lies. And I do not hire at Home Depot. Only time I hired illegals was to clean up the inlaws house, and that was because the Employment Development Department did not send the requested workers. Those union members at the State EDD should have been fired. I read hear that you and your son are beer guzzlers. How true is that? Or you just use a 6 pack a day? |
Denounce your neighbors
On Sat, 08 Aug 2009 07:26:00 -0400, J.Leo wrote:
On Fri, 07 Aug 2009 19:41:18 -0400, RLM wrote: On Fri, 07 Aug 2009 16:27:20 -0400, John Leo wrote: On Fri, 07 Aug 2009 12:50:13 -0400, RLM wrote: On Fri, 07 Aug 2009 11:31:45 -0400, JustWait wrote: In article , says... On Fri, 07 Aug 2009 11:00:49 -0400, JustWait wrote: In article , says... On Fri, 07 Aug 2009 07:54:51 -0400, BAR wrote: H the K wrote: thunder wrote: On Thu, 06 Aug 2009 22:51:03 -0400, Wayne.B wrote: Everyone who is getting decent health care now has nothing to gain and everything to lose. I think people are beginning to understand that. I don't know your particular situation, but quite a few people *think* they have excellent coverage, until they actually try to use it. It's a fact that health care costs are the leading cause of bankruptcy in the U.S., even when people have health care insurance. Remember, most people's insurance is tied to their jobs. Get a long term illness, you lose your job and your insurance, then go bankrupt. Most of those in this newsgroup who are opposed to health care insurance reform are retired Republicans with substantial assets and health care insurance or retired military with federal health care. It's part of the Republican "I've got mine, so **** you" syndrome. They do not care about Americans who unfortunately fall into the "Get a long term illness, you lose your job and your insurance, then go bankrupt." scenario. Harry you are just plain wrong. Nobody is opposed to reforming our health care system. We are opposed to the government taking over the health care system. After the years of National Socialism under the Bush household a government takeover of health care sounds good. At least they aren't spending billions loosing another war. That was money down a rathole. 4 Americans and 3 Brits killed in Afghanistan... more to come. Did you get an erection posting this? Huh! Dopey? No... Just following the thread, try it. Sorry to have an opposing point of view but give me my due at least until it's illegal. snerk Then you recognize we are wasting our resources with wars that we have no intention of winning. Great! Write a letter to Congress and let them know of your disapproval of the foolishness that has prevailed for eight years. Here is a helpful link. Do something worth while. http://usgovinfo.about.com/od/uscong...rscongress.htm Have you written to Obama about the foolishness in which he's engaged? Are the troops in Iraq and Afghanistan free? He could have been out of both countries by the end of February. He's running *his* wars now. My "Congress Critters" quite possibly recognize my name. Obama wasn't in office when these fools started their mess. I'm a registered voter and exercise my right. That answers enough of your question. You are the one urging others to write to Congress to express disapproval of the foolishness over the past eight years. (Which would be quite pointless, BTW.) The foolishness and waste is occurring right now. Yet you focus on the past eight years. In the socialist society you worked in during your career I am sure a letter would be a waste of time. The only thing that is pointed is your head if you believe writing a member of Congress is pointless. Stick to your point of view. Don't waste your time except here in wrecked boats as you have for years. Making meaningless points. |
Denounce your neighbors
On Sat, 08 Aug 2009 17:18:57 -0400, RLM wrote:
On Sat, 08 Aug 2009 07:26:00 -0400, J.Leo wrote: On Fri, 07 Aug 2009 19:41:18 -0400, RLM wrote: On Fri, 07 Aug 2009 16:27:20 -0400, John Leo wrote: On Fri, 07 Aug 2009 12:50:13 -0400, RLM wrote: On Fri, 07 Aug 2009 11:31:45 -0400, JustWait wrote: In article , says... On Fri, 07 Aug 2009 11:00:49 -0400, JustWait wrote: In article , says... On Fri, 07 Aug 2009 07:54:51 -0400, BAR wrote: H the K wrote: thunder wrote: On Thu, 06 Aug 2009 22:51:03 -0400, Wayne.B wrote: Everyone who is getting decent health care now has nothing to gain and everything to lose. I think people are beginning to understand that. I don't know your particular situation, but quite a few people *think* they have excellent coverage, until they actually try to use it. It's a fact that health care costs are the leading cause of bankruptcy in the U.S., even when people have health care insurance. Remember, most people's insurance is tied to their jobs. Get a long term illness, you lose your job and your insurance, then go bankrupt. Most of those in this newsgroup who are opposed to health care insurance reform are retired Republicans with substantial assets and health care insurance or retired military with federal health care. It's part of the Republican "I've got mine, so **** you" syndrome. They do not care about Americans who unfortunately fall into the "Get a long term illness, you lose your job and your insurance, then go bankrupt." scenario. Harry you are just plain wrong. Nobody is opposed to reforming our health care system. We are opposed to the government taking over the health care system. After the years of National Socialism under the Bush household a government takeover of health care sounds good. At least they aren't spending billions loosing another war. That was money down a rathole. 4 Americans and 3 Brits killed in Afghanistan... more to come. Did you get an erection posting this? Huh! Dopey? No... Just following the thread, try it. Sorry to have an opposing point of view but give me my due at least until it's illegal. snerk Then you recognize we are wasting our resources with wars that we have no intention of winning. Great! Write a letter to Congress and let them know of your disapproval of the foolishness that has prevailed for eight years. Here is a helpful link. Do something worth while. http://usgovinfo.about.com/od/uscong...rscongress.htm Have you written to Obama about the foolishness in which he's engaged? Are the troops in Iraq and Afghanistan free? He could have been out of both countries by the end of February. He's running *his* wars now. My "Congress Critters" quite possibly recognize my name. Obama wasn't in office when these fools started their mess. I'm a registered voter and exercise my right. That answers enough of your question. You are the one urging others to write to Congress to express disapproval of the foolishness over the past eight years. (Which would be quite pointless, BTW.) The foolishness and waste is occurring right now. Yet you focus on the past eight years. In the socialist society you worked in during your career I am sure a letter would be a waste of time. The only thing that is pointed is your head if you believe writing a member of Congress is pointless. Stick to your point of view. Don't waste your time except here in wrecked boats as you have for years. Making meaningless points. Complaining about Bush is pointless. That is my point of view. -- John H All decisions, even those made by liberals, are the result of binary thinking. |
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