These recent rec.boats.paddle posts reflect current mainstream media
reports of GOP right wing crazy attacks, "birthers" against Obama etc.
The American Canoe Association during the Bush Cheney years used
rec.boats.paddle posters to kill over 1,000 Americans in Canoes and
Kayaks: A huge number of Americans murdered on their own soil.

This data is in rec.boats.paddle archives and on the US Coast Guard
website, particularly the Office of Boating Safety and the Boating
Safety Advisory Council.

Today, poster Melissa reveals that some rec.boats.paddle posters are
intelligent and witty Americans.

Tim Ingram
http://www.sponsonguy.com



On Jul 27, 1:05 pm, Oci-One Kanubi wrote:

Does anyone else wonder how the Canadian healthcare system can have
failed so miserably to have removed a babbling and drooling maniac
from polite society? Aren't those dang' Canadians willing to pay to
institutionalize their raving psychotics?

Jus' wondrin', *a propos* of nothing in particular.
-Richard, His Kanubic Travesty

Today we have an excellent response from typical GOP "Bush Cheney"
killers. Also Please note that Melissa shows the moral and
intellectual prowess to confront these killers with their "bombproof
roll", a favourite murder technique on rec.boats.paddle.

Check the recent posts. Years ago, many agonizing deaths ago, Slim
Jim
Stuart admitted he was wrong for endangering American kids on
rec.boats.paddle


Tim Ingram
http://www.sponsonguy.com


On Jul 20, 11:51 pm, watersprite


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wrote:
Hello Davej, you wrote:
No, my whole idea is to consider some form of handicapping device in
order to practice for a more difficult situation than you are going
to have in a pool.
Something I do for handicapping is to restrict the use of various
limbs in as many different water conditions as I can find. And of
course, practicing rolls without a paddle. This type of handicapping
is, in my view, more practical than trying to figure out how you're
going to fit your boat into the jacuzzi for aerated water practice.
If you think about the types of conditions that would capsize you,
it's good to think in terms of not just water and/or wind conditions,
but of your own potential condition as well. If you're in already
gnarly conditions that you can barely handle when you're feeling
great, what if you become injured? Might you then be more likely to
capsize in the first place? And still need to find a way to bring
yourself back up? Or, of course, end up swimming without the use of
a limb or two?
There are endless scenarios one can come up with to practice, and I
feel that all too often, we only think about practicing as if nothing
could ever happen to us physically, and ultimately, that's just not
realistic. There's always an exception to "bombproofness" lurking,
just waiting for the right moment to strike. Will we be ready? Or
at least as ready as we can be?
--
Melissa


Excellent post Melissa. Of course, "bombproof" is a crazy "cult"
idea.
You have joined the intelligent and now reasonable Slim Jim Stuart:

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Date: Thu, 16 Jul 2009 07:40:27 -0700 (PDT)
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Subject: President Obama Safety Sponsons
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On Jul 14, 12:09 pm, Oci-One Kanubi wrote:


On Jul 14, 8:32 am, riverman wrote:



On Jul 14, 1:35 am, Wilko wrote:
I think it was Yakmom in response to Burntballs, back in the fall of
1999. I'll hold off using the search function for awhile to see what
others remember. :-)
--riverman
Yakmom! Myron, did you know that two of Sheila's sons competed in the
Over the Falls Race at Great Falls of the Potomac during the Potomac
Paddlefest last weekend? Sean did fairly well; Seth (former US Rodeo
Team member in C-1) didn't. If you go to the message board page ofwww.monocacycanoe.orgyou can find some links to a couple of the runs
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Yakmom responded to Slim Jim Stuart's Post below. (Yakmom essentially
believed her own kids were safer in higher buoyancy kayaks in WW,
presumably for less chance of pinning underwater.) Of course
sponsons
are a specific type of strategic buoyancy coupled with integral
water-
ballast, but I had to commend Slim Jim for recognizing his
responsibility for the welfare of others. Tim Ingram
http://www.sponsonguy.com/PresidentO...ySponsons.html

Slim Jim's Post (perhaps rec.boats.paddle's "finest hour"):


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Date: Tue, 21 Nov 2000 00:53:01 -0500
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Need a little help sorting this out.


I have coached juniors slalom, particularly more advanced 12-16 year
olds,
with emphasis on technical technique, bigger water (i.e. Dickerson,
Potomac
Gorge), and physical development training. I haven't coached for a
few
years,
partly due to work, but more due to the issues described below.


Here's the dilemma:
- I can help kids develop elite slalom and WW skills, and fast.
- By the age of 14, some are highly skilled, if with limited "mean"
river
experience.
- Coaching develops skills which get kids competent enough to even
consider
"extreme zone" runs.
- Teen peer group pressure to push for extreme runs is enormous, and
the
definition of extreme continues to mount.
- Safety focus in whitewater is nearly non-existent these days, and
role
modeling only goes so far.
- WW slalom can be richly rewarding for developing youth - exercising
talent,
dedication to hard work, complex brainwork and experience pyramiding,
physical development, travel and intrigue, camaraderie and community,
all very
admirable and noble activities. (keeps em off the street too)
- But out in the falls, kids are now making decisions in mere seconds
to run
extreme risk WW, usually without perspective.
- If they ask me: "Do you think I should run it?" I respond: "Which
would be
more dangerous, running that drop, or having all four of your wisdom
teeth
extracted? And how much time would you want to decide about having
your teeth
pulled?"
- I've already had several kids with "off the course" very close
calls
and
serious injuries.


How do I rationalize coaching - or not coaching for that matter?
Coaching seems like something worthwhile doing, when I'm doing it.
But what would I tell the parents of a kid who dies "off course?"


Jim Stuart