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Rod Speed July 29th 09 04:46 AM

Jews Trying To Squash Wagner Opera In Los Angeles
 
Calif Bill wrote
Rod Speed wrote
Turby wrote
Rod Speed wrote
Calif Bill wrote
Rod Speed wrote
Datesfat Chicks wrote
Rod Speed wrote


I do know that medical data obtained using unacceptable
involuntary medical experiments during that era have
essentially been excluded.


No it hasnt.


http://www.jlaw.com/Articles/NaziMedEx.html


QUOTE: Pozos' plan to republish the Nazi data in the New
England Journal of Medicine was flatly vetoed by the Journal's
editor, Doctor Arnold Relman.15 Relman's refusal to publish
Nazi data along with Pozos' comments was understandable given
the source of the Nazi data and the way it was obtained.


Says nothing useful about the rest of the medical data that
hasnt been excluded.


My understanding--and I'm not much of an Internet searcher--
is that consensus of the medical community was to exclude it.


You're wrong.


I didn't even know it was available.


Corse it is.


I clearly don't understand the issue very well ... please let
me know where I'm wrong.


Basically it hasnt been excluded.


The question of the "exclusion" of the music


No one is proposing that.


Not in the same way, no. But censorship is nearly equivalent to
exclusion in spirit.


Nope. No one is even proposing all of Wagner's work be
burnt etc or even that it should no longer be buyable either.


The medical data is available.


Correct.


Hard to find,


Nope.


and is extremely frowned upon to use or quote.


Wrong.


Probably enough to derail a career.


Clearly hasnt derailed Pozos'


Which pretty much excludes it use.


Like hell it does.


I don't have a horse in this race either way, but
you're pretty loose with those laconic answers.


You get to like that or lump it.


Do you have any evidence to back up your assertions?


Yep, Pozos hasnt had his career derailed and anyone with
even half a clue can find the medical data being discussed.


Or can you expand on those answers to convince someone
with an open mind who doesn't just take "wrong" as a fact?


You aint worth the trouble, because you dont have anything
even remotely resembling anything like an open mind except
in the sense that there is nothing viable between your ears.


Pozoz may just not give a crap.


And clearly those who have published him havent either.

But being formerly in the Bioengineering field before retiring, I saw the hoops first hand.


Just because some fools operate that way, doesnt mean that everyone does.



Calif Bill[_2_] July 29th 09 05:04 AM

Jews Trying To Squash Wagner Opera In Los Angeles
 

"Rod Speed" wrote in message
...
Calif Bill wrote
Rod Speed wrote
Turby wrote
Rod Speed wrote
Calif Bill wrote
Rod Speed wrote
Datesfat Chicks wrote
Rod Speed wrote


I do know that medical data obtained using unacceptable
involuntary medical experiments during that era have
essentially been excluded.


No it hasnt.


http://www.jlaw.com/Articles/NaziMedEx.html


QUOTE: Pozos' plan to republish the Nazi data in the New
England Journal of Medicine was flatly vetoed by the Journal's
editor, Doctor Arnold Relman.15 Relman's refusal to publish
Nazi data along with Pozos' comments was understandable given
the source of the Nazi data and the way it was obtained.


Says nothing useful about the rest of the medical data that
hasnt been excluded.


My understanding--and I'm not much of an Internet searcher--
is that consensus of the medical community was to exclude it.


You're wrong.


I didn't even know it was available.


Corse it is.


I clearly don't understand the issue very well ... please let
me know where I'm wrong.


Basically it hasnt been excluded.


The question of the "exclusion" of the music


No one is proposing that.


Not in the same way, no. But censorship is nearly equivalent to
exclusion in spirit.


Nope. No one is even proposing all of Wagner's work be
burnt etc or even that it should no longer be buyable either.


The medical data is available.


Correct.


Hard to find,


Nope.


and is extremely frowned upon to use or quote.


Wrong.


Probably enough to derail a career.


Clearly hasnt derailed Pozos'


Which pretty much excludes it use.


Like hell it does.


I don't have a horse in this race either way, but
you're pretty loose with those laconic answers.


You get to like that or lump it.


Do you have any evidence to back up your assertions?


Yep, Pozos hasnt had his career derailed and anyone with
even half a clue can find the medical data being discussed.


Or can you expand on those answers to convince someone
with an open mind who doesn't just take "wrong" as a fact?


You aint worth the trouble, because you dont have anything
even remotely resembling anything like an open mind except
in the sense that there is nothing viable between your ears.


Pozoz may just not give a crap.


And clearly those who have published him havent either.

But being formerly in the Bioengineering field before retiring, I saw the
hoops first hand.


Just because some fools operate that way, doesnt mean that everyone does.


And what is your expertise in the medical field?



Rod Speed July 29th 09 05:18 AM

Jews Trying To Squash Wagner Opera In Los Angeles
 
Calif Bill wrote
Rod Speed wrote
Calif Bill wrote
Rod Speed wrote
Turby wrote
Rod Speed wrote
Calif Bill wrote
Rod Speed wrote
Datesfat Chicks wrote
Rod Speed wrote


I do know that medical data obtained using unacceptable
involuntary medical experiments during that era have
essentially been excluded.


No it hasnt.


http://www.jlaw.com/Articles/NaziMedEx.html


QUOTE: Pozos' plan to republish the Nazi data in the New
England Journal of Medicine was flatly vetoed by the Journal's
editor, Doctor Arnold Relman.15 Relman's refusal to publish
Nazi data along with Pozos' comments was understandable given the source of the Nazi data and the way it was
obtained.


Says nothing useful about the rest of the medical data that
hasnt been excluded.


My understanding--and I'm not much of an Internet searcher--
is that consensus of the medical community was to exclude it.


You're wrong.


I didn't even know it was available.


Corse it is.


I clearly don't understand the issue very well ... please let
me know where I'm wrong.


Basically it hasnt been excluded.


The question of the "exclusion" of the music


No one is proposing that.


Not in the same way, no. But censorship is nearly equivalent
to exclusion in spirit.


Nope. No one is even proposing all of Wagner's work be
burnt etc or even that it should no longer be buyable either.


The medical data is available.


Correct.


Hard to find,


Nope.


and is extremely frowned upon to use or quote.


Wrong.


Probably enough to derail a career.


Clearly hasnt derailed Pozos'


Which pretty much excludes it use.


Like hell it does.


I don't have a horse in this race either way, but
you're pretty loose with those laconic answers.


You get to like that or lump it.


Do you have any evidence to back up your assertions?


Yep, Pozos hasnt had his career derailed and anyone with
even half a clue can find the medical data being discussed.


Or can you expand on those answers to convince someone
with an open mind who doesn't just take "wrong" as a fact?


You aint worth the trouble, because you dont have anything
even remotely resembling anything like an open mind except
in the sense that there is nothing viable between your ears.


Pozoz may just not give a crap.


And clearly those who have published him havent either.


But being formerly in the Bioengineering field before retiring, I saw the hoops first hand.


Just because some fools operate that way, doesnt mean that everyone does.


And what is your expertise in the medical field?


Dont need any. Just need to see that Pozos has done fine, in spite of your claim.

He aint alone either.

It makes absolutely no sense to just waste those lives ruined by the activitys of the nazis.



Coffee's For Closers July 29th 09 06:16 AM

Jews Trying To Squash Wagner Opera In Los Angeles
 
In article m,
says...
"Turby" wrote
thought about whether data found by evil Nazi methods is acceptable or
censored. I don't think it really matters to me. ....



When I consider it ... suppose some evil scientist(s) used inhuman methods
to discover say, a simple cure for cancer and AIDS - a benign pill one could
take and be cancer and AIDS free for life. Should that info be supressed
because of the way it was discovered??



No, it should be suppressed because it would interfere with the
cash being pulled in by Big Pharma (who want AIDS to be common,
chronic, and needing expensive meds for life.) It would also
interfere with the money and egos at various AIDS focused
organisations.


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Calif Bill[_2_] July 29th 09 06:58 AM

Jews Trying To Squash Wagner Opera In Los Angeles
 

"Rod Speed" wrote in message
...
Calif Bill wrote
Rod Speed wrote
Calif Bill wrote
Rod Speed wrote
Turby wrote
Rod Speed wrote
Calif Bill wrote
Rod Speed wrote
Datesfat Chicks wrote
Rod Speed wrote


I do know that medical data obtained using unacceptable
involuntary medical experiments during that era have
essentially been excluded.


No it hasnt.


http://www.jlaw.com/Articles/NaziMedEx.html


QUOTE: Pozos' plan to republish the Nazi data in the New
England Journal of Medicine was flatly vetoed by the Journal's
editor, Doctor Arnold Relman.15 Relman's refusal to publish
Nazi data along with Pozos' comments was understandable given the
source of the Nazi data and the way it was obtained.


Says nothing useful about the rest of the medical data that
hasnt been excluded.


My understanding--and I'm not much of an Internet searcher--
is that consensus of the medical community was to exclude it.


You're wrong.


I didn't even know it was available.


Corse it is.


I clearly don't understand the issue very well ... please let
me know where I'm wrong.


Basically it hasnt been excluded.


The question of the "exclusion" of the music


No one is proposing that.


Not in the same way, no. But censorship is nearly equivalent
to exclusion in spirit.


Nope. No one is even proposing all of Wagner's work be
burnt etc or even that it should no longer be buyable either.


The medical data is available.


Correct.


Hard to find,


Nope.


and is extremely frowned upon to use or quote.


Wrong.


Probably enough to derail a career.


Clearly hasnt derailed Pozos'


Which pretty much excludes it use.


Like hell it does.


I don't have a horse in this race either way, but
you're pretty loose with those laconic answers.


You get to like that or lump it.


Do you have any evidence to back up your assertions?


Yep, Pozos hasnt had his career derailed and anyone with
even half a clue can find the medical data being discussed.


Or can you expand on those answers to convince someone
with an open mind who doesn't just take "wrong" as a fact?


You aint worth the trouble, because you dont have anything
even remotely resembling anything like an open mind except
in the sense that there is nothing viable between your ears.


Pozoz may just not give a crap.


And clearly those who have published him havent either.


But being formerly in the Bioengineering field before retiring, I saw
the hoops first hand.


Just because some fools operate that way, doesnt mean that everyone
does.


And what is your expertise in the medical field?


Dont need any. Just need to see that Pozos has done fine, in spite of your
claim.

He aint alone either.

It makes absolutely no sense to just waste those lives ruined by the
activitys of the nazis.


So no expertise, and bad vocabulary. Fits a dummy.



Rod Speed July 29th 09 07:25 AM

Jews Trying To Squash Wagner Opera In Los Angeles
 
Calif Bill wrote
Rod Speed wrote
Calif Bill wrote
Rod Speed wrote
Calif Bill wrote
Rod Speed wrote
Turby wrote
Rod Speed wrote
Calif Bill wrote
Rod Speed wrote
Datesfat Chicks wrote
Rod Speed wrote


I do know that medical data obtained using unacceptable
involuntary medical experiments during that era have
essentially been excluded.


No it hasnt.


http://www.jlaw.com/Articles/NaziMedEx.html


QUOTE: Pozos' plan to republish the Nazi data in the New
England Journal of Medicine was flatly vetoed by the Journal's editor, Doctor Arnold Relman.15 Relman's
refusal to publish Nazi data along with Pozos' comments was understandable
given the source of the Nazi data and the way it was obtained.


Says nothing useful about the rest of the medical data that
hasnt been excluded.


My understanding--and I'm not much of an Internet searcher--
is that consensus of the medical community was to exclude it.


You're wrong.


I didn't even know it was available.


Corse it is.


I clearly don't understand the issue very well ... please let me know where I'm wrong.


Basically it hasnt been excluded.


The question of the "exclusion" of the music


No one is proposing that.


Not in the same way, no. But censorship is nearly
equivalent to exclusion in spirit.


Nope. No one is even proposing all of Wagner's work be
burnt etc or even that it should no longer be buyable either.


The medical data is available.


Correct.


Hard to find,


Nope.


and is extremely frowned upon to use or quote.


Wrong.


Probably enough to derail a career.


Clearly hasnt derailed Pozos'


Which pretty much excludes it use.


Like hell it does.


I don't have a horse in this race either way, but
you're pretty loose with those laconic answers.


You get to like that or lump it.


Do you have any evidence to back up your assertions?


Yep, Pozos hasnt had his career derailed and anyone with
even half a clue can find the medical data being discussed.


Or can you expand on those answers to convince someone
with an open mind who doesn't just take "wrong" as a fact?


You aint worth the trouble, because you dont have anything
even remotely resembling anything like an open mind except
in the sense that there is nothing viable between your ears.


Pozoz may just not give a crap.


And clearly those who have published him havent either.


But being formerly in the Bioengineering field before retiring, I
saw the hoops first hand.


Just because some fools operate that way, doesnt mean that everyone does.


And what is your expertise in the medical field?


Dont need any. Just need to see that Pozos has done fine, in spite of your claim.


He aint alone either.


It makes absolutely no sense to just waste those lives ruined by the activitys of the nazis.


So no expertise,


You're lying now.

and bad vocabulary.


Yours is nothing to write home about, you pathetic excuse for a lying bull**** artist.

Fits a dummy.


Leave you for dead, ****wit.



Calif Bill[_2_] July 29th 09 07:55 PM

Jews Trying To Squash Wagner Opera In Los Angeles
 

"Rod Speed" wrote in message
...
Calif Bill wrote
Rod Speed wrote
Calif Bill wrote
Rod Speed wrote
Calif Bill wrote
Rod Speed wrote
Turby wrote
Rod Speed wrote
Calif Bill wrote
Rod Speed wrote
Datesfat Chicks wrote
Rod Speed wrote


I do know that medical data obtained using unacceptable
involuntary medical experiments during that era have
essentially been excluded.


No it hasnt.


http://www.jlaw.com/Articles/NaziMedEx.html


QUOTE: Pozos' plan to republish the Nazi data in the New
England Journal of Medicine was flatly vetoed by the Journal's
editor, Doctor Arnold Relman.15 Relman's refusal to publish
Nazi data along with Pozos' comments was understandable
given the source of the Nazi data and the way it was obtained.


Says nothing useful about the rest of the medical data that
hasnt been excluded.


My understanding--and I'm not much of an Internet searcher--
is that consensus of the medical community was to exclude it.


You're wrong.


I didn't even know it was available.


Corse it is.


I clearly don't understand the issue very well ... please let
me know where I'm wrong.


Basically it hasnt been excluded.


The question of the "exclusion" of the music


No one is proposing that.


Not in the same way, no. But censorship is nearly
equivalent to exclusion in spirit.


Nope. No one is even proposing all of Wagner's work be
burnt etc or even that it should no longer be buyable either.


The medical data is available.


Correct.


Hard to find,


Nope.


and is extremely frowned upon to use or quote.


Wrong.


Probably enough to derail a career.


Clearly hasnt derailed Pozos'


Which pretty much excludes it use.


Like hell it does.


I don't have a horse in this race either way, but
you're pretty loose with those laconic answers.


You get to like that or lump it.


Do you have any evidence to back up your assertions?


Yep, Pozos hasnt had his career derailed and anyone with
even half a clue can find the medical data being discussed.


Or can you expand on those answers to convince someone
with an open mind who doesn't just take "wrong" as a fact?


You aint worth the trouble, because you dont have anything
even remotely resembling anything like an open mind except
in the sense that there is nothing viable between your ears.


Pozoz may just not give a crap.


And clearly those who have published him havent either.


But being formerly in the Bioengineering field before retiring, I
saw the hoops first hand.


Just because some fools operate that way, doesnt mean that everyone
does.


And what is your expertise in the medical field?


Dont need any. Just need to see that Pozos has done fine, in spite of
your claim.


He aint alone either.


It makes absolutely no sense to just waste those lives ruined by the
activitys of the nazis.


So no expertise,


You're lying now.

and bad vocabulary.


Yours is nothing to write home about, you pathetic excuse for a lying
bull**** artist.

Fits a dummy.


Leave you for dead, ****wit.


And the dummy resorts to foul language. Another point in his idiocy.



Rod Speed July 29th 09 08:33 PM

Jews Trying To Squash Wagner Opera In Los Angeles
 
Calif Bill wrote
Rod Speed wrote
Calif Bill wrote
Rod Speed wrote
Calif Bill wrote
Rod Speed wrote
Calif Bill wrote
Rod Speed wrote
Turby wrote
Rod Speed wrote
Calif Bill wrote
Rod Speed wrote
Datesfat Chicks wrote
Rod Speed wrote


I do know that medical data obtained using unacceptable
involuntary medical experiments during that era have
essentially been excluded.


No it hasnt.


http://www.jlaw.com/Articles/NaziMedEx.html


QUOTE: Pozos' plan to republish the Nazi data in the New
England Journal of Medicine was flatly vetoed by the
Journal's editor, Doctor Arnold Relman.15 Relman's
refusal to publish Nazi data along with Pozos' comments
was understandable given the source of the Nazi data and the way it was obtained.


Says nothing useful about the rest of the medical data that
hasnt been excluded.


My understanding--and I'm not much of an Internet
searcher-- is that consensus of the medical community was
to exclude it.


You're wrong.


I didn't even know it was available.


Corse it is.


I clearly don't understand the issue very well ... please let me know where I'm wrong.


Basically it hasnt been excluded.


The question of the "exclusion" of the music


No one is proposing that.


Not in the same way, no. But censorship is nearly
equivalent to exclusion in spirit.


Nope. No one is even proposing all of Wagner's work be
burnt etc or even that it should no longer be buyable either.


The medical data is available.


Correct.


Hard to find,


Nope.


and is extremely frowned upon to use or quote.


Wrong.


Probably enough to derail a career.


Clearly hasnt derailed Pozos'


Which pretty much excludes it use.


Like hell it does.


I don't have a horse in this race either way, but
you're pretty loose with those laconic answers.


You get to like that or lump it.


Do you have any evidence to back up your assertions?


Yep, Pozos hasnt had his career derailed and anyone with
even half a clue can find the medical data being discussed.


Or can you expand on those answers to convince someone
with an open mind who doesn't just take "wrong" as a fact?


You aint worth the trouble, because you dont have anything
even remotely resembling anything like an open mind except
in the sense that there is nothing viable between your ears.


Pozoz may just not give a crap.


And clearly those who have published him havent either.


But being formerly in the Bioengineering field before retiring,
I saw the hoops first hand.


Just because some fools operate that way, doesnt mean that everyone does.


And what is your expertise in the medical field?


Dont need any. Just need to see that Pozos has done fine, in spite of your claim.


He aint alone either.


It makes absolutely no sense to just waste those lives ruined by the activitys of the nazis.


So no expertise,


You're lying now.


and bad vocabulary.


Yours is nothing to write home about, you pathetic excuse for a lying bull**** artist.


Fits a dummy.


Leave you for dead, ****wit.


And the dummy resorts to foul language.


The ****wit trots out that pathetically hoary old line when its got done like a ****ing dinner, over and over again.



NotNow[_2_] July 29th 09 08:54 PM

Jews Trying To Squash Wagner Opera In Los Angeles
 
Rod Speed wrote:
Calif Bill wrote
Rod Speed wrote
Calif Bill wrote
Rod Speed wrote
Calif Bill wrote
Rod Speed wrote
Calif Bill wrote
Rod Speed wrote
Turby wrote
Rod Speed wrote
Calif Bill wrote
Rod Speed wrote
Datesfat Chicks wrote
Rod Speed wrote


I do know that medical data obtained using unacceptable
involuntary medical experiments during that era have
essentially been excluded.


No it hasnt.


http://www.jlaw.com/Articles/NaziMedEx.html


QUOTE: Pozos' plan to republish the Nazi data in the New
England Journal of Medicine was flatly vetoed by the
Journal's editor, Doctor Arnold Relman.15 Relman's
refusal to publish Nazi data along with Pozos' comments
was understandable given the source of the Nazi data and the way it was obtained.


Says nothing useful about the rest of the medical data that
hasnt been excluded.


My understanding--and I'm not much of an Internet
searcher-- is that consensus of the medical community was
to exclude it.


You're wrong.


I didn't even know it was available.


Corse it is.


I clearly don't understand the issue very well ... please let me know where I'm wrong.


Basically it hasnt been excluded.


The question of the "exclusion" of the music


No one is proposing that.


Not in the same way, no. But censorship is nearly
equivalent to exclusion in spirit.


Nope. No one is even proposing all of Wagner's work be
burnt etc or even that it should no longer be buyable either.


The medical data is available.


Correct.


Hard to find,


Nope.


and is extremely frowned upon to use or quote.


Wrong.


Probably enough to derail a career.


Clearly hasnt derailed Pozos'


Which pretty much excludes it use.


Like hell it does.


I don't have a horse in this race either way, but
you're pretty loose with those laconic answers.


You get to like that or lump it.


Do you have any evidence to back up your assertions?


Yep, Pozos hasnt had his career derailed and anyone with
even half a clue can find the medical data being discussed.


Or can you expand on those answers to convince someone
with an open mind who doesn't just take "wrong" as a fact?


You aint worth the trouble, because you dont have anything
even remotely resembling anything like an open mind except
in the sense that there is nothing viable between your ears.


Pozoz may just not give a crap.


And clearly those who have published him havent either.


But being formerly in the Bioengineering field before retiring,
I saw the hoops first hand.


Just because some fools operate that way, doesnt mean that everyone does.


And what is your expertise in the medical field?


Dont need any. Just need to see that Pozos has done fine, in spite of your claim.


He aint alone either.


It makes absolutely no sense to just waste those lives ruined by the activitys of the nazis.


So no expertise,


You're lying now.


and bad vocabulary.


Yours is nothing to write home about, you pathetic excuse for a lying bull**** artist.


Fits a dummy.


Leave you for dead, ****wit.


And the dummy resorts to foul language.


The ****wit trots out that pathetically hoary old line when its got done like a ****ing dinner, over and over again.


plonk.

Jim Jones July 29th 09 10:02 PM

Jews Trying To Squash Wagner Opera In Los Angeles
 
NotNow wrote:
Rod Speed wrote:
Calif Bill wrote
Rod Speed wrote
Calif Bill wrote
Rod Speed wrote
Calif Bill wrote
Rod Speed wrote
Calif Bill wrote
Rod Speed wrote
Turby wrote
Rod Speed wrote
Calif Bill wrote
Rod Speed wrote
Datesfat Chicks wrote
Rod Speed wrote


I do know that medical data obtained using
unacceptable involuntary medical experiments during
that era have essentially been excluded.


No it hasnt.


http://www.jlaw.com/Articles/NaziMedEx.html


QUOTE: Pozos' plan to republish the Nazi data in the
New England Journal of Medicine was flatly vetoed by the
Journal's editor, Doctor Arnold Relman.15 Relman's
refusal to publish Nazi data along with Pozos' comments
was understandable given the source of the Nazi data
and the way it was obtained.


Says nothing useful about the rest of the medical data
that hasnt been excluded.


My understanding--and I'm not much of an Internet
searcher-- is that consensus of the medical community
was to exclude it.


You're wrong.


I didn't even know it was available.


Corse it is.


I clearly don't understand the issue very well ...
please let me know where I'm wrong.


Basically it hasnt been excluded.


The question of the "exclusion" of the music


No one is proposing that.


Not in the same way, no. But censorship is nearly
equivalent to exclusion in spirit.


Nope. No one is even proposing all of Wagner's work be
burnt etc or even that it should no longer be buyable
either.


The medical data is available.


Correct.


Hard to find,


Nope.


and is extremely frowned upon to use or quote.


Wrong.


Probably enough to derail a career.


Clearly hasnt derailed Pozos'


Which pretty much excludes it use.


Like hell it does.


I don't have a horse in this race either way, but
you're pretty loose with those laconic answers.


You get to like that or lump it.


Do you have any evidence to back up your assertions?


Yep, Pozos hasnt had his career derailed and anyone with
even half a clue can find the medical data being discussed.


Or can you expand on those answers to convince someone
with an open mind who doesn't just take "wrong" as a fact?


You aint worth the trouble, because you dont have anything
even remotely resembling anything like an open mind except
in the sense that there is nothing viable between your ears.


Pozoz may just not give a crap.


And clearly those who have published him havent either.


But being formerly in the Bioengineering field before
retiring, I saw the hoops first hand.


Just because some fools operate that way, doesnt mean that
everyone does.


And what is your expertise in the medical field?


Dont need any. Just need to see that Pozos has done fine, in
spite of your claim.


He aint alone either.


It makes absolutely no sense to just waste those lives ruined by
the activitys of the nazis.


So no expertise,


You're lying now.


and bad vocabulary.


Yours is nothing to write home about, you pathetic excuse for a
lying bull**** artist.


Fits a dummy.


Leave you for dead, ****wit.


And the dummy resorts to foul language.


The ****wit trots out that pathetically hoary old line when its got
done like a ****ing dinner, over and over again.

plonk.


No one gives a flying red **** what clowns like you do or do not read, child.




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