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H the K July 22nd 09 06:02 PM

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Don White wrote:
"BAR" wrote in message
...
Don is lost without you. He follows your lead.


Unlike you...who couldn't follow his superiors instructions and was left
behind when his Marine unit was sent for any serious operations out of
country.




Someone had to be the permanent latrine guard.


--
A wise Latina makes better decisions than a dumb elephant.

Loogypicker[_2_] July 22nd 09 06:18 PM

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On Jul 21, 9:34*pm, GC Boater wrote:
On Jul 21, 8:30*pm, H the K wrote:

...amazingly, I have two offers from readers here for the pistol, and
even more amazing, they both made the same $$$ offer.


This is easy; maybe I'll start a conglomerate by also opening a used
musical instrument store. :)


(Just a joke, R...)


--
A wise Latina makes better decisions than a dumb elephant.


Well, aren't you special.


He can't do that, you need to be at least bright enough to add and
subtract......

Loogypicker[_2_] July 22nd 09 06:20 PM

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On Jul 21, 9:48*pm, "Eisboch" wrote:

Seriously, I am really enjoying this experience. *Unlike my past, very
specialized career, this thing exposes me to all kinds of people and their
styles and personalities. * I am getting a big kick out of it.
Engineers are basically all the same, but musicians, musician wannabe's and
general shoppers are something else.


I agree. That's why I decided to learn to play. I like music, and the
fact that everyone does things a little differently, likes different
sounds etc. helps me when I need to get out of engineering mode.


Just wait a frekin' minute! July 22nd 09 06:39 PM

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Lil' John wrote:
On Wed, 22 Jul 2009 09:45:01 -0400, "Eisboch"
wrote:

"NotNow" wrote in message
...

Just wait a frekin' minute! has written similar:

What was the name of that newsreader that Tom tried on Gene's suggestion?
I need to be able to filter WAFA's bull**** that everyone is quoting.

Tell you what. I sometimes enjoy sparring with Harry as long as he isn't
calling everyone who doesn't agree with him idiots and other personal
insults.

But with respect to your desire to keep him in your Bozo bin, I will make
an attempt to include the keyword "delete" in the subject line of any
response I may give to him.

Add that word to your filter, and you won't see any of my responses to him.

Eisboch


How about just changing your 'author' name to 'delete' when you're in
a discussion with the guy?
--

John H


Nope, he shouldn't. We should just filter what we don't want. Otherwise
it could screw up others filters on my account.. Rememer, I am one who
had trouble ignoring WAFA's bull****.. Again, Dick doesn't quote the
"bull****"... so it really is no longer an issue. (Except for mornings
like today when I wake up grumpy because of the rain) snerk

jps July 22nd 09 07:49 PM

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On Wed, 22 Jul 2009 04:39:20 -0400, "Eisboch"
wrote:


"jps" wrote in message
.. .


I sell introductory systems as a means to growing my business with a
customer who's not ready to take the plunge. There are lots of ways
to create demand for your goods or services; smart folks can read the
customer and tailor a solution appropriate to their requirements.


Obviously, introductory offers are used all the time. I never cared for
them.

I find it annoying sometimes to get offers for special deals on cable or
Internet services that I am already subscribed to, only to find out they are
available to "new" customers only. Those who have been paying the full
price don't qualify and continue to pay full price.

Wouldn't you be impressed to get an unsolicited notice from your cable
company thanking you for your loyal and continued business and rewarding you
with 3 months of discounted invoices? Maybe cable service is a bad example
because it's regulated and non-competitive, but it might keep you from
switching to Direct TV or Dish.


All you have to do is call them and let them know you're switching.
They'll offer any rate they have to retain your business.

In my former business that involved custom engineered, big ticket items
orders for additional systems were discounted because most of the
engineering and design costs were non-recurring.


We haven't sold a handful of introductory systems. By offering
customers the option, they usually determine on their own their
requirements will grow beyond the capacity of that system.

It's a marketing tool. If Harry's customer thinks he's done him a
good turn and the product is well-crafted and professional, the
potential for repeat business is high.

I'd rather give a little and have a long-term customer than hold the
line and start a relationship on a bad footing.

Eisboch


H the K July 22nd 09 07:58 PM

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Just wait a frekin' minute! wrote:
Lil' John wrote:
On Wed, 22 Jul 2009 09:45:01 -0400, "Eisboch"
wrote:

"NotNow" wrote in message
...

Just wait a frekin' minute! has written similar:

What was the name of that newsreader that Tom tried on Gene's
suggestion? I need to be able to filter WAFA's bull**** that
everyone is quoting.
Tell you what. I sometimes enjoy sparring with Harry as long as he
isn't calling everyone who doesn't agree with him idiots and other
personal insults.

But with respect to your desire to keep him in your Bozo bin, I will
make an attempt to include the keyword "delete" in the subject line
of any response I may give to him.

Add that word to your filter, and you won't see any of my responses
to him.

Eisboch


How about just changing your 'author' name to 'delete' when you're in
a discussion with the guy?
--

John H


Nope, he shouldn't. We should just filter what we don't want. Otherwise
it could screw up others filters on my account.. Rememer, I am one who
had trouble ignoring WAFA's bull****.. Again, Dick doesn't quote the
"bull****"... so it really is no longer an issue. (Except for mornings
like today when I wake up grumpy because of the rain) snerk



I just love it when The Greak talks computer to the band of idiots.


--
A wise Latina makes better decisions than a dumb elephant.

jps July 22nd 09 08:09 PM

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On Wed, 22 Jul 2009 06:47:50 -0400, J i m
wrote:

Eisboch wrote:
"H the K" wrote in message
...
I gave him a discount. It's only my time that's involved. I don't have to
buy goods and resell them for a profit.


Give one a discount and they all want a discount.

When I built big ticket, expensive vacuum deposition systems, I gave
discounts to repeat customers, not new ones.

Eisboch


But... But... He needs the business desperately.


And you know this how?

H the K July 22nd 09 08:17 PM

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jps wrote:
On Wed, 22 Jul 2009 06:47:50 -0400, J i m
wrote:

Eisboch wrote:
"H the K" wrote in message
...
I gave him a discount. It's only my time that's involved. I don't have to
buy goods and resell them for a profit.

Give one a discount and they all want a discount.

When I built big ticket, expensive vacuum deposition systems, I gave
discounts to repeat customers, not new ones.

Eisboch


But... But... He needs the business desperately.


And you know this how?



He doesn't. The high point of FlaJim's life was his time in the navy,
swabbing decks or whatever they let low brain output types do there.
FlaJim is a frightened old man without a life, without a boat, without a
job, stuck in inland Florida, where no active person lives not
affiliated with UofF or Dizzyworld lives.

What I charge is entirely up to me. I have a couple of clients who pay
hourly, two who pay a monthly fee, and occasionals who pay by the project.

I farm out graphics work to an artist who used to work for me but
decided after her second kid was born to go freelance. It's easy these
days to collaborate at a distance.



--
A wise Latina makes better decisions than a dumb elephant.

Calif Bill[_2_] July 23rd 09 12:22 AM

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"H the K" wrote in message
m...
Eisboch wrote:
"H the K" wrote in message
m...
Eisboch wrote:
"H the K" wrote in message
m...
Actually, if you don't run tests and check backgrounds, you simply
don't know if you've hired a druggie or a thief, do you?


sigh Some of us take responsibility for our decisions. If proven
wrong, we accept our misjudgment.

Eisboch
You are skirting the "factuality" of the statement.


It doesn't matter. In a small operation, the bad apples smell quickly.

I am not in disagreement with you. It's just that it is obvious that
your experiences in life have been heavily weighed towards bigger
businesses, unions and/or the attempts to organize them.
In that size of a company the president and upper level management are
typically not involved with day to day operations and in the hiring of
new employees, other than top management.

In may case, virtually all my experience is with very small businesses,
although we dealt with large ones often as a supplier of equipment.
During my tenure as owner/president of a company, we peaked at about 70
something employees, probably not much larger than the BOD of IBM. By
that time formal departments with department managers were in place and
they were responsible for the recruitment and hiring of people to staff
their departments.

But, we maintained a custom of having me also do a short interview,
usually during the second, follow up interview, with all prospective new
employees recommended by the respective department managers. All I
really did was give a speach about the company "team" culture. But, it
gave me an opportunity to size up who would be joining the team, from
engineers to general shop labor.

Eisboch



These days, if you are a contractor doing "sensitive work" for the DoD and
some other agencies, certain categories of employees must be tested for
substance abuse. That's also the case on federally funded construction
projects, and the trend is spreading to state-funded projects *and* to
privately funded projects where the sponsors and contractors want a
drug-free workplace.

I don't see anything wrong with the practice. If I were a construction
worker, I sure as hell wouldn't want to be working on a scaffold or on the
ground alongside workers who were "high."

Being high, of course, usually is a requirement in the pop music biz,
right?



--
A wise Latina makes better decisions than a dumb elephant.


Maybe we should test Judge elects and Congress people also. Show illegal
drugs in your system, Fired!



D[_10_] July 23rd 09 12:57 AM

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H the K wrote:
Eisboch wrote:
"H the K" wrote in message
m...
...amazingly, I have two offers from readers here for the pistol, and
even more amazing, they both made the same $$$ offer.

This is easy; maybe I'll start a conglomerate by also opening a used
musical instrument store. :)

(Just a joke, R...)




I happen to like having a conglomerate. I am the big gahoona, the
sales and marketing department, senior buyer, the accounting
department, webmaster, telephone receptionist, the stock room clerk
and the rest room maintenance technician.

Seriously, I am really enjoying this experience. Unlike my past, very
specialized career, this thing exposes me to all kinds of people and
their styles and personalities. I am getting a big kick out of it.
Engineers are basically all the same, but musicians, musician
wannabe's and general shoppers are something else.

A guy called me today about a Taylor 12-string I have. Said he saw it
on the website and he's seen many guitars just like it for a lot less
money, so would I knock off a few hundred.

I asked him if they were the same guitar ... a Taylor 355.

He didn't know. He said the ones he saw just looked a lot like the one
I have.

He was dead serious. I told him that he should buy the cheapest one
he can find.

Eisboch





Fun is fun. I'm writing a speech for a new client. It's for delivery in
late August. When he called, he said I was recommended by a current
client. He wanted to know if I would give him a discount on the first
speech because he "didn't know me." I didn't tell him he should find a
cheaper speech writer. :)

I gave him a discount. It's only my time that's involved. I don't have
to buy goods and resell them for a profit.



More bull****. Try using your "skills" to make it more believable next
time.


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