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Eisboch wrote:
"H the K" wrote in message
...
Eisboch wrote:
"H the K" wrote in message
m...
You also need to run a records check and insist upon a urine test.

I wouldn't waste the time or money.

Eisboch

Sure...go ahead...hire someone with a criminal record who also abuses
drugs.

:)


I've never done that. One thing nice about a small, privately held
business is that you can hire who you want and, if necessary, fire who you
want without going through an act of congress to do so.
In my experience, I've either directly hired or at least approved the hiring
of probably about 200 people between two companies. Of those, only 3 had
to be terminated later. One was a perpetual trouble maker on the shop floor
who constantly caused problems with others. One was caught seriously
fudging expense reports and bragging about it to others in the company.
The third was a thief.

That's not a bad track record.

Eisboch



Oh hell, now Harry thinks that anyone anybody hires has a criminal
record and abuses drugs. WAFA.

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"H the K" wrote in message
m...


Actually, if you don't run tests and check backgrounds, you simply don't
know if you've hired a druggie or a thief, do you?



sigh Some of us take responsibility for our decisions. If proven
wrong, we accept our misjudgment.

Eisboch

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NotNow wrote:
Eisboch wrote:
"H the K" wrote in message
...
Eisboch wrote:
"H the K" wrote in message
m...
You also need to run a records check and insist upon a urine test.

I wouldn't waste the time or money.

Eisboch

Sure...go ahead...hire someone with a criminal record who also abuses
drugs.

:)


I've never done that. One thing nice about a small, privately held
business is that you can hire who you want and, if necessary, fire who
you want without going through an act of congress to do so.
In my experience, I've either directly hired or at least approved the
hiring of probably about 200 people between two companies. Of those,
only 3 had to be terminated later. One was a perpetual trouble maker
on the shop floor who constantly caused problems with others. One was
caught seriously fudging expense reports and bragging about it to
others in the company. The third was a thief.

That's not a bad track record.

Eisboch


Oh hell, now Harry thinks that anyone anybody hires has a criminal
record and abuses drugs. WAFA.

Well, at least if they are not in the Union;) Pfffttt. I used to see the
windows glowing in the van where the top (union) boys smoked cocaine
every day during lunch... Man, these guys weren't worth a nickel an hour...

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H the K wrote:
BAR wrote:
H the K wrote:
Captain Zombie of Woodstock wrote:
On Tue, 21 Jul 2009 23:44:07 -0400, Just Regigie
wrote:

H the K wrote:

Fun is fun. I'm writing a speech for a new client. It's for
delivery in late August. When he called, he said I was recommended
by a current client. He wanted to know if I would give him a
discount on the first speech because he "didn't know me." I didn't
tell him he should find a cheaper speech writer. :)

I gave him a discount. It's only my time that's involved. I don't
have to buy goods and resell them for a profit.
I hope you took him out in your Lobster Boat and introduced him to
your Dr. Dr. wife.

Harry, I do have to be honest, I have NEVER meet such an insecure
guy as you are, but I am always amazed that you actually expect
people to believe your stories.

Hey - I've got to defend Harry on this one.

If he knew Harry, he wouldn't have asked him to write the speech in
the first place.



Pretty impressive...you've got The Freak as your scumbag buddy in
Connecticut, Jackoff as your scumbag buddy in South Carolina, and
Reggie as your scumbag buddy in George.

You have your puppy Don in Canada and you had your buddy Jim in
Cleveland, until the phone incident.


Phone incident? I never called Jim, and he never called me.

You know the phone call I am talking about that involved your buddy in
Cleveland. Your ego thinks its about you but it wasn't.

Don is hardly my puppy. We don't coordinate messages, we've never talked
on the phone, we don't exchange secret messages, and we don't set up
junior high school "plots" against others in the newsgroup. Don and I
simply have similar union/progressive underpinnings, and, while I can't
speak for him, I am sure he shares my belief that there are achievements
more important than screwing others so you can attain a position in the
social order higher than the poor.

Don is lost without you. He follows your lead.

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"Just wait a frekin' minute!" wrote in
message ...



We have a small music shop here in town that does that. They have several
rooms in the back and a group of teachers. They do everything from flute
to piano but you wouldn't have to. I assume that this is the actual bulk
of the shops income.

Also they cater to beginners with the lessons and of course in that, must
keep a small inventory of cheap guitars, lot's of sheet music, and
associated supplies... I suppose if someone wants a better guitar, they
send them to Guitar Center. I doubt the kind of folks you cater to would
walk in either of these places...

My son in law who would make a great teacher if he was closer used to work
there part time for extra money for about a year. He is a bit young but if
you wanted to pick his brain a bit about the operation, I could arrange a
call. He is a very well educated guitarist, runs a recording studio, and
is a straight up kind of guy, if not a bit young and "fresh"...

I think my point is if you start giving lessons, you will need to carry
more stuff that "beginner" musicians need to support them...

Maybe you could "broker" lessons with a few teachers who do in home/studio
sessions.


Your points are the reason I haven't moved forward with the lessons thing.
Actually, the lessons are not a major cash generator for a music shop.
Typically, beginner type lessons are around 20 bucks per half hour.
The fee is divided up between the instructor and the shop ... usually 12 to
the instructor and 8 to the shop to help cover overhead. You need
additional liabiliy insurance to do lessons on site that is not required if
you are only doing equipment sales.

The idea is that the lessons hopefully lead to equipment and supply sales
from the shop.
In my case, you are correct. The type of customers that have been coming in
should be giving lessons, not taking them. The one exception is the guy I
have gotten to know at Berklee who has suggested that he and an associate
conduct guitar clinics at the shop. These aren't guitar lessons. They are
geared for semi-pro and professionals and deal more with issues of advanced
technique and other style nuances.

Eisboch

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Eisboch wrote:
"H the K" wrote in message
m...
Actually, if you don't run tests and check backgrounds, you simply don't
know if you've hired a druggie or a thief, do you?



sigh Some of us take responsibility for our decisions. If proven
wrong, we accept our misjudgment.

Eisboch



You are skirting the "factuality" of the statement.


--
A wise Latina makes better decisions than a dumb elephant.

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BAR wrote:
H the K wrote:
BAR wrote:
H the K wrote:
Captain Zombie of Woodstock wrote:
On Tue, 21 Jul 2009 23:44:07 -0400, Just Regigie
wrote:

H the K wrote:

Fun is fun. I'm writing a speech for a new client. It's for
delivery in late August. When he called, he said I was
recommended by a current client. He wanted to know if I would
give him a discount on the first speech because he "didn't know
me." I didn't tell him he should find a cheaper speech writer. :)

I gave him a discount. It's only my time that's involved. I don't
have to buy goods and resell them for a profit.
I hope you took him out in your Lobster Boat and introduced him to
your Dr. Dr. wife.

Harry, I do have to be honest, I have NEVER meet such an insecure
guy as you are, but I am always amazed that you actually expect
people to believe your stories.

Hey - I've got to defend Harry on this one.

If he knew Harry, he wouldn't have asked him to write the speech in
the first place.



Pretty impressive...you've got The Freak as your scumbag buddy in
Connecticut, Jackoff as your scumbag buddy in South Carolina, and
Reggie as your scumbag buddy in George.

You have your puppy Don in Canada and you had your buddy Jim in
Cleveland, until the phone incident.


Phone incident? I never called Jim, and he never called me.

You know the phone call I am talking about that involved your buddy in
Cleveland. Your ego thinks its about you but it wasn't.

Don is hardly my puppy. We don't coordinate messages, we've never
talked on the phone, we don't exchange secret messages, and we don't
set up junior high school "plots" against others in the newsgroup. Don
and I simply have similar union/progressive underpinnings, and, while
I can't speak for him, I am sure he shares my belief that there are
achievements more important than screwing others so you can attain a
position in the social order higher than the poor.

Don is lost without you. He follows your lead.


Sell that to the marines.



--
A wise Latina makes better decisions than a dumb elephant.

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Just wait a frekin' minute! wrote:
NotNow wrote:
Eisboch wrote:
"H the K" wrote in message
...
Eisboch wrote:
"H the K" wrote in message
m...
You also need to run a records check and insist upon a urine test.

I wouldn't waste the time or money.

Eisboch

Sure...go ahead...hire someone with a criminal record who also
abuses drugs.

:)


I've never done that. One thing nice about a small, privately held
business is that you can hire who you want and, if necessary, fire
who you want without going through an act of congress to do so.
In my experience, I've either directly hired or at least approved the
hiring of probably about 200 people between two companies. Of
those, only 3 had to be terminated later. One was a perpetual
trouble maker on the shop floor who constantly caused problems with
others. One was caught seriously fudging expense reports and
bragging about it to others in the company. The third was a thief.

That's not a bad track record.

Eisboch


Oh hell, now Harry thinks that anyone anybody hires has a criminal
record and abuses drugs. WAFA.

Well, at least if they are not in the Union;) Pfffttt. I used to see the
windows glowing in the van where the top (union) boys smoked cocaine
every day during lunch... Man, these guys weren't worth a nickel an hour...

What was the name of that newsreader that Tom tried on Gene's
suggestion? I need to be able to filter WAFA's bull**** that everyone is
quoting.

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H the K wrote:
Eisboch wrote:
"H the K" wrote in message
...
Eisboch wrote:
"H the K" wrote in message
m...
You also need to run a records check and insist upon a urine test.

I wouldn't waste the time or money.

Eisboch

Sure...go ahead...hire someone with a criminal record who also abuses
drugs.

:)


I've never done that. One thing nice about a small, privately held
business is that you can hire who you want and, if necessary, fire who
you want without going through an act of congress to do so.
In my experience, I've either directly hired or at least approved the
hiring of probably about 200 people between two companies. Of those,
only 3 had to be terminated later. One was a perpetual trouble maker
on the shop floor who constantly caused problems with others. One was
caught seriously fudging expense reports and bragging about it to
others in the company. The third was a thief.

That's not a bad track record.

Eisboch


Actually, if you don't run tests and check backgrounds, you simply don't
know if you've hired a druggie or a thief, do you?

Your confidence and trust in your fellow man is astounding.

What if the guy has a union card, can he fore go the **** test and
background check?

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Eisboch wrote:
"Just wait a frekin' minute!" wrote in
message ...

We have a small music shop here in town that does that. They have several
rooms in the back and a group of teachers. They do everything from flute
to piano but you wouldn't have to. I assume that this is the actual bulk
of the shops income.

Also they cater to beginners with the lessons and of course in that, must
keep a small inventory of cheap guitars, lot's of sheet music, and
associated supplies... I suppose if someone wants a better guitar, they
send them to Guitar Center. I doubt the kind of folks you cater to would
walk in either of these places...

My son in law who would make a great teacher if he was closer used to work
there part time for extra money for about a year. He is a bit young but if
you wanted to pick his brain a bit about the operation, I could arrange a
call. He is a very well educated guitarist, runs a recording studio, and
is a straight up kind of guy, if not a bit young and "fresh"...

I think my point is if you start giving lessons, you will need to carry
more stuff that "beginner" musicians need to support them...

Maybe you could "broker" lessons with a few teachers who do in home/studio
sessions.


Your points are the reason I haven't moved forward with the lessons thing.
Actually, the lessons are not a major cash generator for a music shop.
Typically, beginner type lessons are around 20 bucks per half hour.
The fee is divided up between the instructor and the shop ... usually 12 to
the instructor and 8 to the shop to help cover overhead. You need
additional liabiliy insurance to do lessons on site that is not required if
you are only doing equipment sales.

The idea is that the lessons hopefully lead to equipment and supply sales
from the shop.
In my case, you are correct. The type of customers that have been coming in
should be giving lessons, not taking them. The one exception is the guy I
have gotten to know at Berklee who has suggested that he and an associate
conduct guitar clinics at the shop. These aren't guitar lessons. They are
geared for semi-pro and professionals and deal more with issues of advanced
technique and other style nuances.

Eisboch



That sounds better, I like the idea of clinics. Get a few guys in for a
couple of hours, close the front doors and let the "pro" move around the
shop with a short seminar and q and a at the end using whatever happens
to be on the wall. Might sell a guitar or two there too;)

The Mouse took a course Monday which worked like that sort of. The track
pro started with "gate drops" (starts) and went over it with the
students for a bout an hour and a half. Showing them, watching them,
correcting them. Then they did a couple hours of left turns, then right,
then dragon backs, then jumps. Over and over again the students would
run a circuit with the pro there pulling them off to talk to them
individually while the rest kept going. The last two hours was up to the
students. They decided among themselves what they wanted the pro to work
with them on as a group.

Just sayin' sounds like you are having a great time, wish I was closer.
Good luck and if you ever want to open a branch down here, I got the guy
for you...;)