Here's another interesting piece of Obamaca

".... we should be very troubled by Section 1233 of H.R. 3200. The
section, titled “Advanced Care Planning Consultation” requires senior
citizens to meet at least every 5 years with a doctor or nurse
practitioner to discuss dying with dignity."

Screw you Obama.

On Tue, 21 Jul 2009 07:32:36 -0400, Captain Yogi of Woodstock wrote:

Here's another interesting piece of Obamaca

".... we should be very troubled by Section 1233 of H.R. 3200. The
section, titled “Advanced Care Planning Consultation” requires senior
citizens to meet at least every 5 years with a doctor or nurse
practitioner to discuss dying with dignity."

Screw you Obama.

Help me out here, Sec 1233 of H.R. 3200 concerns Bulk Transfers.

http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/query/z?c110:H.R.3200:

There is, however, proposed amendments to the Social Security Act that
discuss living wills, powers of attorneys, and such. We haven't yet
reached Soylent Green. The clauses I'm sure you are referring to start
on page 425, he

http://edlabor.house.gov/documents/1...cations/AAHCA-
BillText-071409.pdf

thunder wrote:
On Tue, 21 Jul 2009 07:32:36 -0400, Captain Yogi of Woodstock wrote:

Here's another interesting piece of Obamaca

".... we should be very troubled by Section 1233 of H.R. 3200. The
section, titled “Advanced Care Planning Consultation” requires senior
citizens to meet at least every 5 years with a doctor or nurse
practitioner to discuss dying with dignity."

Screw you Obama.

Help me out here, Sec 1233 of H.R. 3200 concerns Bulk Transfers.

http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/query/z?c110:H.R.3200:

There is, however, proposed amendments to the Social Security Act that
discuss living wills, powers of attorneys, and such. We haven't yet
reached Soylent Green. The clauses I'm sure you are referring to start
on page 425, he

http://edlabor.house.gov/documents/1...cations/AAHCA-
BillText-071409.pdf


There's no way SW Tom will die with dignity.

Seriously, though, SW Tom has become or perhaps always was just another
right-wing "we can't fix that, do that, improve that" Republican who
goal it is to stymie Obama anyway he can. Improving society or making
life a bit easy for the disadvantaged...no concern of his.



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A wise Latina makes better decisions than a dumb elephant.

On Tue, 21 Jul 2009 07:56:18 -0500, thunder
wrote:

On Tue, 21 Jul 2009 07:32:36 -0400, Captain Yogi of Woodstock wrote:

Here's another interesting piece of Obamaca

".... we should be very troubled by Section 1233 of H.R. 3200. The
section, titled ?Advanced Care Planning Consultation? requires senior
citizens to meet at least every 5 years with a doctor or nurse
practitioner to discuss dying with dignity."

Screw you Obama.

Help me out here, Sec 1233 of H.R. 3200 concerns Bulk Transfers.

http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/query/z?c110:H.R.3200:

There is, however, proposed amendments to the Social Security Act that
discuss living wills, powers of attorneys, and such. We haven't yet
reached Soylent Green. The clauses I'm sure you are referring to start
on page 425, he

http://edlabor.house.gov/documents/1...cations/AAHCA-
BillText-071409.pdf

Nope. Sorry, had the wrong link.

http://frwebgate.access.gpo.gov/cgi-...00ih.t xt.pdf

Pages 424/425.

It stops just short of euthanasia.

And frankly, I don't want to be preached at by some "health care
worker" about the value of "just letting go".

I get enough of that crap every time I go to a specialist - Do you
feel safe - has anybody threatened you - blah, blah, blah.

I'm telling you flat out - rationed care, elderly, "consultations" -
Obama wants the boomers to go away - the faster the better.

Obama and the Congress Critters get the best of care for their entire
lives - too bad that everybody else has to pay for it including
eliminating senior citizens.

Screw you Obama.

On Tue, 21 Jul 2009 09:45:19 -0400, Yogi of Woodstock
wrote:

On Tue, 21 Jul 2009 07:56:18 -0500, thunder
wrote:

On Tue, 21 Jul 2009 07:32:36 -0400, Captain Yogi of Woodstock wrote:

Here's another interesting piece of Obamaca

".... we should be very troubled by Section 1233 of H.R. 3200. The
section, titled ?Advanced Care Planning Consultation? requires senior
citizens to meet at least every 5 years with a doctor or nurse
practitioner to discuss dying with dignity."

Screw you Obama.

Help me out here, Sec 1233 of H.R. 3200 concerns Bulk Transfers.

http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/query/z?c110:H.R.3200:

There is, however, proposed amendments to the Social Security Act that
discuss living wills, powers of attorneys, and such. We haven't yet
reached Soylent Green. The clauses I'm sure you are referring to start
on page 425, he

http://edlabor.house.gov/documents/1...cations/AAHCA-
BillText-071409.pdf

Nope. Sorry, had the wrong link.

http://frwebgate.access.gpo.gov/cgi-...00ih.t xt.pdf

Pages 424/425.

It stops just short of euthanasia.

And frankly, I don't want to be preached at by some "health care
worker" about the value of "just letting go".

I get enough of that crap every time I go to a specialist - Do you
feel safe - has anybody threatened you - blah, blah, blah.

I'm telling you flat out - rationed care, elderly, "consultations" -
Obama wants the boomers to go away - the faster the better.

Obama and the Congress Critters get the best of care for their entire
lives - too bad that everybody else has to pay for it including
eliminating senior citizens.

Screw you Obama.

Back in the 3rd quarter of the last century, works such as Logan's
Run, Animal Farm, 1984, and Brave New World were considered cautionary
tales, and for most persons in those days the notion of such radical
forms of society and government were disturbing. These days, for
Obama & Co, these works are manifestos for good government.

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Yogi of Woodstock wrote:
On Tue, 21 Jul 2009 07:56:18 -0500, thunder
wrote:

On Tue, 21 Jul 2009 07:32:36 -0400, Captain Yogi of Woodstock wrote:

Here's another interesting piece of Obamaca

".... we should be very troubled by Section 1233 of H.R. 3200. The
section, titled ?Advanced Care Planning Consultation? requires senior
citizens to meet at least every 5 years with a doctor or nurse
practitioner to discuss dying with dignity."

Screw you Obama.
Help me out here, Sec 1233 of H.R. 3200 concerns Bulk Transfers.

http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/query/z?c110:H.R.3200:

There is, however, proposed amendments to the Social Security Act that
discuss living wills, powers of attorneys, and such. We haven't yet
reached Soylent Green. The clauses I'm sure you are referring to start
on page 425, he

http://edlabor.house.gov/documents/1...cations/AAHCA-
BillText-071409.pdf

Nope. Sorry, had the wrong link.

http://frwebgate.access.gpo.gov/cgi-...00ih.t xt.pdf

Pages 424/425.

It stops just short of euthanasia.

And frankly, I don't want to be preached at by some "health care
worker" about the value of "just letting go".

I get enough of that crap every time I go to a specialist - Do you
feel safe - has anybody threatened you - blah, blah, blah.

-

Gee, I'm older than you are and none of the medical folks I ever see ask
those sorts of questions. Do you look frail?



A wise Latina makes better decisions than a dumb elephant.

wrote:
On Tue, 21 Jul 2009 11:59:18 -0400, H the K
wrote:

Gee, I'm older than you are

And you call the people in Sarasota (average age 42.5) "geezers" ;-)

http://www.epodunk.com/cgi-bin/popIn...?locIndex=8905


Harry doesn't have to know anything about a geographical area, or of an
areas demographics to instantly be a bigoted piece of ****.

wrote:
On Tue, 21 Jul 2009 11:59:18 -0400, H the K
wrote:

Gee, I'm older than you are

And you call the people in Sarasota (average age 42.5) "geezers" ;-)

http://www.epodunk.com/cgi-bin/popIn...?locIndex=8905



Yeah, but I work at avoiding geezerhood.

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A wise Latina makes better decisions than a dumb elephant.

wrote:
On Tue, 21 Jul 2009 13:44:20 -0400, H the K
wrote:

wrote:
On Tue, 21 Jul 2009 11:59:18 -0400, H the K
wrote:

Gee, I'm older than you are
And you call the people in Sarasota (average age 42.5) "geezers" ;-)

http://www.epodunk.com/cgi-bin/popIn...?locIndex=8905


Yeah, but I work at avoiding geezerhood.

Sarasota is really a fairly young town, particularly when you get away
from the filthy rich areas.



My wife has a number of relatives in that area, and we've visited. My
best memory is visiting her grandmother, who had a dozen or so
fruit-bearing citrus trees. Nothing beats picking fresh oranges in the am.

I just never "took" to the area. Too hot for me, and I didn't much like
the topography. When it comes to south Florida, I prefer Bal Harbour.
Just as hot, of course, and same flat land but...lots to do, restaurants
we like, uncrowded ocean beaches in front of the condos, easy fishing,
Carib/Latino culture, Ft. Lauderdale airport (cheap airfares from here,
convenient). I'm sure the other coast of florida offers a lot, too...

wrote:
On Tue, 21 Jul 2009 16:23:02 -0400, H K
wrote:

Yeah, but I work at avoiding geezerhood.
Sarasota is really a fairly young town, particularly when you get away
from the filthy rich areas.


My wife has a number of relatives in that area, and we've visited. My
best memory is visiting her grandmother, who had a dozen or so
fruit-bearing citrus trees. Nothing beats picking fresh oranges in the am.

I just never "took" to the area. Too hot for me, and I didn't much like
the topography. When it comes to south Florida, I prefer Bal Harbour.
Just as hot, of course, and same flat land but...lots to do, restaurants
we like, uncrowded ocean beaches in front of the condos, easy fishing,
Carib/Latino culture, Ft. Lauderdale airport (cheap airfares from here,
convenient). I'm sure the other coast of florida offers a lot, too...


I think the whole East Coast is too crowded, with the possible
exception of some areas around Melbourne. I have beaches around here I
can get to by boat in 20 minutes and not see a soul (with no condos).
We also have lots of places we can go up in the mangroves in the bay
where nobody goes.
On the other hand I am 10 minutes from a Ruths Chris steak house if I
want to spend some money, 10 minutes from I-75 and 15 minutes from an
international airport.
I will trade a little "hot" for snow any day. I remember being plenty
hot in DC with no good way to cool off. I see plenty of 100+ weather
reports from cities up north and the water keeps it from ever getting
that hot here.

Yeah, a few years ago my bud got a nice little chunk of property about 3
miles from the 10 and 75 intersection.. Out in the sticks enough that
with the new Hilton and Walmart that came in he should be ok in a couple
of years...