Gene wrote:
On Mon, 13 Jul 2009 19:34:50 -0700 (PDT), Tim
wrote:

http://www.miamiherald.com/news/miam...y/1137971.html

I know the article states that charges could be pending, but just from
what is gathered by the article, there's a lot that isn't known.

the victims were fishing way off shore at about midnight. Nothing is
said about proper nav. lights or at least lighting in general , or
night visability conditions..

At least the people that rammed them hailed for help and stayed around
to search.

but any way you look at it, , it still isn't good.

Legal questions will surround whether or not the Hewes was at anchor
or making way or not and what sort of lights it may or may not have
been displaying.

The big question surrounding the Bayliner is whether or not they had a
lookout.

Really bad luck and bad news.....



Whatever happened to that sailor on the left coast whose boat was rammed
from behind by a cop in a fast power boat? A passenger in the sailboat
was killed, and the sailor was arrested. Read to me like a typical cop
frame up job.

On Tue, 14 Jul 2009 10:59:59 -0400, Gene Kearns
wrote:

Somebody posted an update on that a while back. Seems like the wronged
party was making some progress.... I remember it as in the
"heartland," not the left coast....

Here in Iowa we had a cop kill a guy in his bunk, in a designated
anchorage. The cops tried to allege it was somehow the victims fault
for not showing non required lights. We had a drunk run down a boat,
hit it from behind, went over the top of the victim, killing the
driver, and kept right on going. They found the damaged boat and
witnesses to each of the drinks the guy had that night.

Casady

Richard Casady wrote:
On Tue, 14 Jul 2009 10:59:59 -0400, Gene Kearns
wrote:

Somebody posted an update on that a while back. Seems like the wronged
party was making some progress.... I remember it as in the
"heartland," not the left coast....

Here in Iowa we had a cop kill a guy in his bunk, in a designated
anchorage. The cops tried to allege it was somehow the victims fault
for not showing non required lights. We had a drunk run down a boat,
hit it from behind, went over the top of the victim, killing the
driver, and kept right on going. They found the damaged boat and
witnesses to each of the drinks the guy had that night.

Casady


I'm in favor of laws that take auto driving licenses away from drunk
boat drivers. I'm also in favor of licensing drivers of power boats with
more than a very small engine (in order to allow kids to drive their own
boats). I also favor mandatory jail time for the *first* DUI offense,
and increased time in jail for subsequent convictions.

On Wed, 15 Jul 2009 08:58:13 -0400, H the K
wrote:

Richard Casady wrote:
On Tue, 14 Jul 2009 10:59:59 -0400, Gene Kearns
wrote:

Somebody posted an update on that a while back. Seems like the wronged
party was making some progress.... I remember it as in the
"heartland," not the left coast....

Here in Iowa we had a cop kill a guy in his bunk, in a designated
anchorage. The cops tried to allege it was somehow the victims fault
for not showing non required lights. We had a drunk run down a boat,
hit it from behind, went over the top of the victim, killing the
driver, and kept right on going. They found the damaged boat and
witnesses to each of the drinks the guy had that night.

I'm in favor of laws that take auto driving licenses away from drunk
boat drivers. I'm also in favor of licensing drivers of power boats with
more than a very small engine (in order to allow kids to drive their own
boats).

Around the Groton/Mystic area, they have special licsencing for kids
and horsepower restrictions - must be going on twenty/twenty five
years now.

It's worked real well too.

I also favor mandatory jail time for the *first* DUI offense,
and increased time in jail for subsequent convictions.

I prefer much more drastic punishment - like one strike and you are
breaking rocks forever.

Captain Wizard of Woodstock wrote:
On Wed, 15 Jul 2009 08:58:13 -0400, H the K
wrote:

Richard Casady wrote:
On Tue, 14 Jul 2009 10:59:59 -0400, Gene Kearns
wrote:

Somebody posted an update on that a while back. Seems like the wronged
party was making some progress.... I remember it as in the
"heartland," not the left coast....
Here in Iowa we had a cop kill a guy in his bunk, in a designated
anchorage. The cops tried to allege it was somehow the victims fault
for not showing non required lights. We had a drunk run down a boat,
hit it from behind, went over the top of the victim, killing the
driver, and kept right on going. They found the damaged boat and
witnesses to each of the drinks the guy had that night.
I'm in favor of laws that take auto driving licenses away from drunk
boat drivers. I'm also in favor of licensing drivers of power boats with
more than a very small engine (in order to allow kids to drive their own
boats).

Around the Groton/Mystic area, they have special licsencing for kids
and horsepower restrictions - must be going on twenty/twenty five
years now.

It's worked real well too.

I also favor mandatory jail time for the *first* DUI offense,
and increased time in jail for subsequent convictions.

I prefer much more drastic punishment - like one strike and you are
breaking rocks forever.


Getting started in powerboats with a small boat and a small motor is the
way to do it. Getting started with a rowboat without a motor is even
better. You learn a lot about the water, waves, wind...physics, as it were.

On Jul 15, 3:37*pm, H the K wrote:
Captain Wizard of Woodstock wrote:



On Wed, 15 Jul 2009 08:58:13 -0400, H the K
wrote:

Richard Casady wrote:
On Tue, 14 Jul 2009 10:59:59 -0400, Gene Kearns
wrote:

Somebody posted an update on that a while back. Seems like the wronged
party was making some progress.... I remember it as in the
"heartland," *not the left coast....
Here in Iowa we had a cop kill a guy in his bunk, in a designated
anchorage. The cops tried to allege it was somehow the victims fault
for not showing non required lights. We had a drunk run down a boat,
hit it from behind, went over the top of the victim, killing the
driver, and kept right on going. They found the damaged boat and
witnesses to each of the drinks the guy had that night.
I'm in favor of laws that take auto driving licenses away from drunk
boat drivers. I'm also in favor of licensing drivers of power boats with
more than a very small engine (in order to allow kids to drive their own
boats).

Around the Groton/Mystic area, they have special licsencing for kids
and horsepower restrictions - must be going on twenty/twenty five
years now.

It's worked real well too.

I also favor mandatory jail time for the *first* DUI offense,
and increased time in jail for subsequent convictions.

I prefer much more drastic punishment - like one strike and you are
breaking rocks forever.

Getting started in powerboats with a small boat and a small motor is the
way to do it. Getting started with a rowboat without a motor is even
better. You learn a lot about the water, waves, wind...physics, as it were.

My first boat was a '27 ft. Chris Craft Cavalier. I never took a
piloting course, never wrecked or hit someone, and I had no problem
berthing it in a slip.

I knew the key to the success of the whole thing was take it easy and
use some common sense.

On Thu, 16 Jul 2009 10:49:51 -0400, Gene Kearns
wrote:



You've really put your finger on the problem..... I've been a teacher
for 36 years and I have YET to figure out how to teach common sense.
You just can't fix stupid.
http://www.msfn.org/board/index.php?showtopic=121349

LOL
Hmmm. Reminds me of blonde jokes, but new to me.

--Vic

On Thu, 16 Jul 2009 10:49:51 -0400, Gene Kearns
wrote:

Lake boaters, in salt water, will continue to be scary.....

Well, there's your problem. :)

It's also very true.

Lake boaters, in salt water, will continue to be scary.....

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Well, isn't most seas just "bigger" lakes?

But I'm too far from REAL salt water in three directions,(E,W,S) so
there's nothing to fear from me, Gene.

H the K wrote:
Richard Casady wrote:
On Tue, 14 Jul 2009 10:59:59 -0400, Gene Kearns
wrote:

Somebody posted an update on that a while back. Seems like the wronged
party was making some progress.... I remember it as in the
"heartland," not the left coast....

Here in Iowa we had a cop kill a guy in his bunk, in a designated
anchorage. The cops tried to allege it was somehow the victims fault
for not showing non required lights. We had a drunk run down a boat,
hit it from behind, went over the top of the victim, killing the
driver, and kept right on going. They found the damaged boat and
witnesses to each of the drinks the guy had that night.

Casady


I'm in favor of laws that take auto driving licenses away from drunk
boat drivers. I'm also in favor of licensing drivers of power boats with
more than a very small engine (in order to allow kids to drive their own
boats). I also favor mandatory jail time for the *first* DUI offense,
and increased time in jail for subsequent convictions.

Who asked? Who cares what you "think", WAFA?