boat collision, could this mean manslaughter charges?
 

On Jul 14, 11:09*pm, Guru of Woodstock wrote:
On Tue, 14 Jul 2009 20:51:13 -0700 (PDT), Tim
wrote:



On Jul 14, 9:47*pm, Short Wave Sportfishing
wrote:
On Tue, 14 Jul 2009 20:49:52 -0400, Gene

wrote:
On Tue, 14 Jul 2009 20:33:41 -0400, Wizard of Woodstock
wrote:

On Tue, 14 Jul 2009 20:06:24 -0400, Gene Kearns
wrote:

I have a one word answer.... a get out of jail card, if you will.....
RADAR.

That one off East Passage I never saw on radar - it was lost in
clutter and by the time I got close enough to get a strong return, it
would have been too late.

That being the case, I can only recommend "Preparation H!"

Heh...

As you know, radar can look behind structure and land masses. One time
I was heading up the Stonington Channel to the Watch Hill Yacht club
to put in over night. *Visibility was down to about 1/2 mile and
decreasing - I was just moving along at about 15 knots and as I
approached Napatree Point, I took a close look at the radar - didn't
see anything at first, but I looked a little closer and just saw what
I thought was part of the beach move a little.

Let me explain about Napatree Point - the channel at that place is
about 13 feet wide at low tide - the green buoy marks the exact size
of the channel as opposed to the flats which are about two feet deep
at extreme low tide which this was - the red buoy is actually Napatree
Point.

Anyway, discretion the better part of valor, I sounded my horn, didn't
hear anything, couldn't see anything behind the dunes, radar still
didn't show anything significant, but I waited anyway.

Around comes a dragger - Miss Martha which is the biggest dragger out
of Pawcatuck - 90 foot low profile, mid-ship pilot house - state of
the art. *Miss Martha's captain was as surprised as I was - we talked
about it on ch 13.

Neither one of us thought to check the local working channel. *:)

Use all the tools at your disposal was the lesson that day. :)

Well that was a good day that both boats didn't kiss and make up....

Almost did one time with Scott - scared the heck out of him when the
50 something foot Viking came around the Napatree Point corner.

Wimp. :)

It would have scared the stuffing out of me too.

OK,,,

Double wimp!

?;^ Q

boat collision, could this mean manslaughter charges?
 

On Tue, 14 Jul 2009 10:59:59 -0400, Gene Kearns
wrote:

Somebody posted an update on that a while back. Seems like the wronged
party was making some progress.... I remember it as in the
"heartland," not the left coast....

Here in Iowa we had a cop kill a guy in his bunk, in a designated
anchorage. The cops tried to allege it was somehow the victims fault
for not showing non required lights. We had a drunk run down a boat,
hit it from behind, went over the top of the victim, killing the
driver, and kept right on going. They found the damaged boat and
witnesses to each of the drinks the guy had that night.

Casady

boat collision, could this mean manslaughter charges?
 

Richard Casady wrote:
On Tue, 14 Jul 2009 10:59:59 -0400, Gene Kearns
wrote:

Somebody posted an update on that a while back. Seems like the wronged
party was making some progress.... I remember it as in the
"heartland," not the left coast....

Here in Iowa we had a cop kill a guy in his bunk, in a designated
anchorage. The cops tried to allege it was somehow the victims fault
for not showing non required lights. We had a drunk run down a boat,
hit it from behind, went over the top of the victim, killing the
driver, and kept right on going. They found the damaged boat and
witnesses to each of the drinks the guy had that night.

Casady


I'm in favor of laws that take auto driving licenses away from drunk
boat drivers. I'm also in favor of licensing drivers of power boats with
more than a very small engine (in order to allow kids to drive their own
boats). I also favor mandatory jail time for the *first* DUI offense,
and increased time in jail for subsequent convictions.

boat collision, could this mean manslaughter charges?
 

Guru of Woodstock wrote:
On Tue, 14 Jul 2009 20:51:13 -0700 (PDT), Tim
wrote:

On Jul 14, 9:47 pm, Short Wave Sportfishing
wrote:
On Tue, 14 Jul 2009 20:49:52 -0400, Gene

wrote:
On Tue, 14 Jul 2009 20:33:41 -0400, Wizard of Woodstock
wrote:
On Tue, 14 Jul 2009 20:06:24 -0400, Gene Kearns
wrote:
I have a one word answer.... a get out of jail card, if you will....
RADAR.
That one off East Passage I never saw on radar - it was lost in
clutter and by the time I got close enough to get a strong return, it
would have been too late.
That being the case, I can only recommend "Preparation H!"
Heh...

As you know, radar can look behind structure and land masses. One time
I was heading up the Stonington Channel to the Watch Hill Yacht club
to put in over night. Visibility was down to about 1/2 mile and
decreasing - I was just moving along at about 15 knots and as I
approached Napatree Point, I took a close look at the radar - didn't
see anything at first, but I looked a little closer and just saw what
I thought was part of the beach move a little.

Let me explain about Napatree Point - the channel at that place is
about 13 feet wide at low tide - the green buoy marks the exact size
of the channel as opposed to the flats which are about two feet deep
at extreme low tide which this was - the red buoy is actually Napatree
Point.

Anyway, discretion the better part of valor, I sounded my horn, didn't
hear anything, couldn't see anything behind the dunes, radar still
didn't show anything significant, but I waited anyway.

Around comes a dragger - Miss Martha which is the biggest dragger out
of Pawcatuck - 90 foot low profile, mid-ship pilot house - state of
the art. Miss Martha's captain was as surprised as I was - we talked
about it on ch 13.

Neither one of us thought to check the local working channel. :)

Use all the tools at your disposal was the lesson that day. :)
Well that was a good day that both boats didn't kiss and make up....

Almost did one time with Scott - scared the heck out of him when the
50 something foot Viking came around the Napatree Point corner.

Wimp. :)

How's the fishin' been? Pffftttt. Wimp this sneakers boy..

boat collision, could this mean manslaughter charges?
 

Tim wrote:
On Jul 14, 11:09 pm, Guru of Woodstock wrote:
On Tue, 14 Jul 2009 20:51:13 -0700 (PDT), Tim
wrote:



On Jul 14, 9:47 pm, Short Wave Sportfishing
wrote:
On Tue, 14 Jul 2009 20:49:52 -0400, Gene
wrote:
On Tue, 14 Jul 2009 20:33:41 -0400, Wizard of Woodstock
wrote:
On Tue, 14 Jul 2009 20:06:24 -0400, Gene Kearns
wrote:
I have a one word answer.... a get out of jail card, if you will....
RADAR.
That one off East Passage I never saw on radar - it was lost in
clutter and by the time I got close enough to get a strong return, it
would have been too late.
That being the case, I can only recommend "Preparation H!"
Heh...
As you know, radar can look behind structure and land masses. One time
I was heading up the Stonington Channel to the Watch Hill Yacht club
to put in over night. Visibility was down to about 1/2 mile and
decreasing - I was just moving along at about 15 knots and as I
approached Napatree Point, I took a close look at the radar - didn't
see anything at first, but I looked a little closer and just saw what
I thought was part of the beach move a little.
Let me explain about Napatree Point - the channel at that place is
about 13 feet wide at low tide - the green buoy marks the exact size
of the channel as opposed to the flats which are about two feet deep
at extreme low tide which this was - the red buoy is actually Napatree
Point.
Anyway, discretion the better part of valor, I sounded my horn, didn't
hear anything, couldn't see anything behind the dunes, radar still
didn't show anything significant, but I waited anyway.
Around comes a dragger - Miss Martha which is the biggest dragger out
of Pawcatuck - 90 foot low profile, mid-ship pilot house - state of
the art. Miss Martha's captain was as surprised as I was - we talked
about it on ch 13.
Neither one of us thought to check the local working channel. :)
Use all the tools at your disposal was the lesson that day. :)
Well that was a good day that both boats didn't kiss and make up....
Almost did one time with Scott - scared the heck out of him when the
50 something foot Viking came around the Napatree Point corner.

Wimp. :)

It would have scared the stuffing out of me too.

OK,,,

Double wimp!

?;^ Q

I ain't sayin' nuttin'..

boat collision, could this mean manslaughter charges?
 

On Wed, 15 Jul 2009 08:58:13 -0400, H the K
wrote:

Richard Casady wrote:
On Tue, 14 Jul 2009 10:59:59 -0400, Gene Kearns
wrote:

Somebody posted an update on that a while back. Seems like the wronged
party was making some progress.... I remember it as in the
"heartland," not the left coast....

Here in Iowa we had a cop kill a guy in his bunk, in a designated
anchorage. The cops tried to allege it was somehow the victims fault
for not showing non required lights. We had a drunk run down a boat,
hit it from behind, went over the top of the victim, killing the
driver, and kept right on going. They found the damaged boat and
witnesses to each of the drinks the guy had that night.

I'm in favor of laws that take auto driving licenses away from drunk
boat drivers. I'm also in favor of licensing drivers of power boats with
more than a very small engine (in order to allow kids to drive their own
boats).

Around the Groton/Mystic area, they have special licsencing for kids
and horsepower restrictions - must be going on twenty/twenty five
years now.

It's worked real well too.

I also favor mandatory jail time for the *first* DUI offense,
and increased time in jail for subsequent convictions.

I prefer much more drastic punishment - like one strike and you are
breaking rocks forever.

boat collision, could this mean manslaughter charges?
 

Captain Wizard of Woodstock wrote:
On Wed, 15 Jul 2009 08:58:13 -0400, H the K
wrote:

Richard Casady wrote:
On Tue, 14 Jul 2009 10:59:59 -0400, Gene Kearns
wrote:

Somebody posted an update on that a while back. Seems like the wronged
party was making some progress.... I remember it as in the
"heartland," not the left coast....
Here in Iowa we had a cop kill a guy in his bunk, in a designated
anchorage. The cops tried to allege it was somehow the victims fault
for not showing non required lights. We had a drunk run down a boat,
hit it from behind, went over the top of the victim, killing the
driver, and kept right on going. They found the damaged boat and
witnesses to each of the drinks the guy had that night.
I'm in favor of laws that take auto driving licenses away from drunk
boat drivers. I'm also in favor of licensing drivers of power boats with
more than a very small engine (in order to allow kids to drive their own
boats).

Around the Groton/Mystic area, they have special licsencing for kids
and horsepower restrictions - must be going on twenty/twenty five
years now.

It's worked real well too.

I also favor mandatory jail time for the *first* DUI offense,
and increased time in jail for subsequent convictions.

I prefer much more drastic punishment - like one strike and you are
breaking rocks forever.


Getting started in powerboats with a small boat and a small motor is the
way to do it. Getting started with a rowboat without a motor is even
better. You learn a lot about the water, waves, wind...physics, as it were.

boat collision, could this mean manslaughter charges?
 

On Jul 15, 3:37*pm, H the K wrote:
Captain Wizard of Woodstock wrote:



On Wed, 15 Jul 2009 08:58:13 -0400, H the K
wrote:

Richard Casady wrote:
On Tue, 14 Jul 2009 10:59:59 -0400, Gene Kearns
wrote:

Somebody posted an update on that a while back. Seems like the wronged
party was making some progress.... I remember it as in the
"heartland," *not the left coast....
Here in Iowa we had a cop kill a guy in his bunk, in a designated
anchorage. The cops tried to allege it was somehow the victims fault
for not showing non required lights. We had a drunk run down a boat,
hit it from behind, went over the top of the victim, killing the
driver, and kept right on going. They found the damaged boat and
witnesses to each of the drinks the guy had that night.
I'm in favor of laws that take auto driving licenses away from drunk
boat drivers. I'm also in favor of licensing drivers of power boats with
more than a very small engine (in order to allow kids to drive their own
boats).

Around the Groton/Mystic area, they have special licsencing for kids
and horsepower restrictions - must be going on twenty/twenty five
years now.

It's worked real well too.

I also favor mandatory jail time for the *first* DUI offense,
and increased time in jail for subsequent convictions.

I prefer much more drastic punishment - like one strike and you are
breaking rocks forever.

Getting started in powerboats with a small boat and a small motor is the
way to do it. Getting started with a rowboat without a motor is even
better. You learn a lot about the water, waves, wind...physics, as it were.

My first boat was a '27 ft. Chris Craft Cavalier. I never took a
piloting course, never wrecked or hit someone, and I had no problem
berthing it in a slip.

I knew the key to the success of the whole thing was take it easy and
use some common sense.

boat collision, could this mean manslaughter charges?
 

H the K wrote:
Richard Casady wrote:
On Tue, 14 Jul 2009 10:59:59 -0400, Gene Kearns
wrote:

Somebody posted an update on that a while back. Seems like the wronged
party was making some progress.... I remember it as in the
"heartland," not the left coast....

Here in Iowa we had a cop kill a guy in his bunk, in a designated
anchorage. The cops tried to allege it was somehow the victims fault
for not showing non required lights. We had a drunk run down a boat,
hit it from behind, went over the top of the victim, killing the
driver, and kept right on going. They found the damaged boat and
witnesses to each of the drinks the guy had that night.

Casady


I'm in favor of laws that take auto driving licenses away from drunk
boat drivers. I'm also in favor of licensing drivers of power boats with
more than a very small engine (in order to allow kids to drive their own
boats). I also favor mandatory jail time for the *first* DUI offense,
and increased time in jail for subsequent convictions.

Who asked? Who cares what you "think", WAFA?

boat collision, could this mean manslaughter charges?
 

On Wed, 15 Jul 2009 19:36:49 -0400, D wrote:

H the K wrote:
Richard Casady wrote:
On Tue, 14 Jul 2009 10:59:59 -0400, Gene Kearns
wrote:

Somebody posted an update on that a while back. Seems like the wronged
party was making some progress.... I remember it as in the
"heartland," not the left coast....

Here in Iowa we had a cop kill a guy in his bunk, in a designated
anchorage. The cops tried to allege it was somehow the victims fault
for not showing non required lights. We had a drunk run down a boat,
hit it from behind, went over the top of the victim, killing the
driver, and kept right on going. They found the damaged boat and
witnesses to each of the drinks the guy had that night.

Casady


I'm in favor of laws that take auto driving licenses away from drunk
boat drivers. I'm also in favor of licensing drivers of power boats with
more than a very small engine (in order to allow kids to drive their own
boats). I also favor mandatory jail time for the *first* DUI offense,
and increased time in jail for subsequent convictions.

Who asked? Who cares what you "think", WAFA?

Doug, please filter him like most other righteous folk have done.
--

John H