On Jul 11, 10:52*am, "Eisboch" wrote:
"HK" wrote in message

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Eisboch wrote:

"J i m" wrote in message
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Wizard of Woodstock wrote:
my Ranger cheap? *:)

I finally got the actuator modified back to original and installed -
all set to bleed the brakes and get 'er back on the road.

NNNNNOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!

The freakin' zerks on the BRAND NEW CALIPERS were rusted to nubs -
NUBS - nothing to grip, came apart in my hands and the brake wrench.

Now I gotta remove the calipers, use an easy out to get the rest of
the zerks out of the calipers....

WHAT NEXT!?!? *:)

~~ mutter ~~

I am curious as to the zerks on your calipers. What are they for?

Bleeding the brake lines?

Eisboch

Via a zerk fitting? My trailer's calipers have "bleed screws."

Seems to me that I recall cars in the past having zerk type bleed screws on
the brake systems.
They were used because a vacuum pump was attached to them to evacuate all
the air
in new brake lines.

Eisboch

Yes Richard. some use pump to extract the air out of the system, but
there's the old two man way of pumping up the master cylinder, while
another opens the "zerk to let the fluid and air splatter out, until
they get a clean flow of fluid. But instead of making a big mess, it's
possible to put a rubber hose ove the "zerk" and let the air and fluid
mixture splatter into a jar or can. press the master cylinder pedal,
open the 'zerk', splatter, close the 'zerk' let up on the pedal and
repeat the process.

Done it many a time.

On Sat, 11 Jul 2009 11:27:22 -0700 (PDT), Tim
wrote:



Yes Richard. some use pump to extract the air out of the system, but
there's the old two man way of pumping up the master cylinder, while
another opens the "zerk to let the fluid and air splatter out, until
they get a clean flow of fluid. But instead of making a big mess, it's
possible to put a rubber hose ove the "zerk" and let the air and fluid
mixture splatter into a jar or can. press the master cylinder pedal,
open the 'zerk', splatter, close the 'zerk' let up on the pedal and
repeat the process.

Done it many a time.

Whatever anybody calls it, if it's on a caliper you know what it is.
We always called zerks zerks and bleeders bleeders.
But when was the last time you saw a zerk on a car?
Even my '90 Corsica doesn't have one. All the tie rod ends and ball
joints are sealed and permanently lubed.
Might be one on the pitman arm. I'll have to look, since now you got
me interested. Might not even have a pitman arm any more with these
strut suspensions.
Reminds me that I haven't even used a grease gun on my cars in many
years. I don't even know where my grease gun is. My kid probably
stole it.
Man, I love modern cars. Is a '90 a modern car?

--Vic

"Vic Smith" wrote in message
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Reminds me that I haven't even used a grease gun on my cars in many
years. I don't even know where my grease gun is. My kid probably
stole it.
Man, I love modern cars. Is a '90 a modern car?

--Vic

My son-in-law who had a tie rod separate at 30K miles on a 2001 model
didn't think so.
"Permanently lubricated" is the claim. A simple zerk fitting would
probably make it last for 100k miles.

Eisboch (about 20 lines)

On Sat, 11 Jul 2009 19:41:43 -0400, "Eisboch"
wrote:


My son-in-law who had a tie rod separate at 30K miles on a 2001 model
didn't think so.
"Permanently lubricated" is the claim. A simple zerk fitting would
probably make it last for 100k miles.

What car? Probably just a defective end.
You might feel them if they loosen up, but modern suspensions
are pretty buffered from transmitting that.
Best way is an occasional trip to a rack where a front end man can
muscle stuff around to look for wear.
I always have my kid check my cars out for that before going on a
trip.
I've heard of guys drilling ball joints and tie rod ends then using
these.
(It's a sel-tapping zerk.)
https://www.fastenal.com/web/product...l.ex?sku=58790

Wouldn't consider it myself. Aside from keeping shavings out, it's
just not necessary.

--Vic

"Vic Smith" wrote in message
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On Sat, 11 Jul 2009 19:41:43 -0400, "Eisboch"
wrote:


My son-in-law who had a tie rod separate at 30K miles on a 2001 model
didn't think so.
"Permanently lubricated" is the claim. A simple zerk fitting would
probably make it last for 100k miles.

What car? Probably just a defective end.
You might feel them if they loosen up, but modern suspensions
are pretty buffered from transmitting that.
Best way is an occasional trip to a rack where a front end man can
muscle stuff around to look for wear.
I always have my kid check my cars out for that before going on a
trip.
I've heard of guys drilling ball joints and tie rod ends then using
these.
(It's a sel-tapping zerk.)
https://www.fastenal.com/web/product...l.ex?sku=58790

Wouldn't consider it myself. Aside from keeping shavings out, it's
just not necessary.

--Vic

Believe it or not, I remember when the manufacturers started getting away
from supplying zerk fittings in the front end components. The first couple
of years, the tapped hole still existed, but it was plugged with a machine
bolt. If you were so inclined, you could remove the bolt and install your
own zerks.

That lasted a couple of years until they supplied the tie rods, etc. without
the tapped holes.

Eisboch

On Jul 11, 6:41*pm, "Eisboch" wrote:
"Vic Smith" wrote in message

...

Reminds me that I haven't even used a grease gun on my cars in many
years. *I don't even know where my grease gun is. *My kid probably
stole it.
Man, I love modern cars. *Is a '90 a modern car?

--Vic

My son-in-law who had a tie rod separate at 30K miles on a 2001 *model
didn't think so.
"Permanently lubricated" *is the claim. * A simple zerk fitting would
probably make it last for 100k miles.

Eisboch *(about 20 lines)

I bet the replacement part had a "zerk" they usually do.

On Sat, 11 Jul 2009 18:02:18 -0500, Vic Smith
wrote:

On Sat, 11 Jul 2009 11:27:22 -0700 (PDT), Tim
wrote:



Yes Richard. some use pump to extract the air out of the system, but
there's the old two man way of pumping up the master cylinder, while
another opens the "zerk to let the fluid and air splatter out, until
they get a clean flow of fluid. But instead of making a big mess, it's
possible to put a rubber hose ove the "zerk" and let the air and fluid
mixture splatter into a jar or can. press the master cylinder pedal,
open the 'zerk', splatter, close the 'zerk' let up on the pedal and
repeat the process.

Done it many a time.

Whatever anybody calls it, if it's on a caliper you know what it is.
We always called zerks zerks and bleeders bleeders.
But when was the last time you saw a zerk on a car?
Even my '90 Corsica doesn't have one. All the tie rod ends and ball
joints are sealed and permanently lubed.
Might be one on the pitman arm. I'll have to look, since now you got
me interested. Might not even have a pitman arm any more with these
strut suspensions.
Reminds me that I haven't even used a grease gun on my cars in many
years. I don't even know where my grease gun is. My kid probably
stole it.
Man, I love modern cars. Is a '90 a modern car?

--Vic

My '95 GMC pickup, although not a car, had eleven of those buggers -
all for the front end.
--

John H