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Palin Hit With Another Ethics Complaint In the wake of Governor Palin stepping down from her job, new allegations have surfaced today in Alaska charging Palin with additional violations of the Alaska Executive Ethics Act. Zane Henning -- a conservative government watchdog from the governor's hometown of Wasilla and an oilfield worker on Alaska's North Slope -- asserts in a letter to Alaska Attorney General Daniel S. Sullivan that Palin has "been charging and pocketing per diem to live in her home and has used the process for a personal gain since being elected." In a detailed press release accompanying the charges, Henning declared that: Palin's use of the per diem is in direct conflict with Section 39.52.120. (a) of the Alaska Executive Ethics Act....More than a thousand state employees commute from the Mat-Su Valley daily and none of them get to pocket free money. Henning noted that "the State of Alaska provides housing in Juneau for the Governor." If she chooses not to live there, Alaskans should not have to pay for it. I am requesting that you and the Personnel Board direct Governor Sarah Palin to reimburse the State of Alaska all per diem funds, plus interest, and a fine that are related to charges while staying in her Wasilla residence. Henning further argued that Alaska Statute 39.20.010 sets an "annual salary for the governor of $125,000." Sarah Palin has collected more than the amount established by law by cashing in her per diem checks. Alaska Statute 39.20.050 (Exclusive Compensation) states that the compensation fixed by law for the governor and lieutenant governor is in full for all services rendered by each of them in any official capacity or employment whatsoever during their respective terms of office. Per diem is therefore any added expenses incurred while in travel status, not when living in your own home. According to Henning: State travel regulations say that per diem can't be claimed when travel is less than 50 miles from a state employee's workplace. The IRS and state finance officer have already determined that the per diem is considered income. The governor's workplace in Anchorage is only a 45-mile commute from her Wasilla home. In February, Palin was required to pay back income taxes on thousands of dollars in expense money she received while living at her home overlooking Lake Lucille in Wasilla. Little more than two weeks ago she was forced to pay back the State of Alaska more than $8,100.00 for nine trips taken by her children that she had improperly charged as being part of official state business. Henning contends the per diem is another way for the Alaska governor to line her pockets at the state's expense: As a Wasilla resident I know that thousands of valley residents commute into Anchorage for work every day. They don't receive checks from their employers for sleeping at home. Governor Palin does. And it's wrong, not to mention unethical, for her to even submit these per diem claims. To me, this is a roundabout way for Palin to give herself a raise. "The Governor is quitting her job," said Henning, "and now more than ever the State of Alaska, along with its residents, need to be reimbursed for the per diem charges, including interest and a fine...[i]t is up to private citizens, like myself, to hold our Governor accountable." Huff Post |
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"HK" wrote in message m... Palin Hit With Another Ethics Complaint Yawn. When will they stop? Batting average isn't very good. Even the FBI acknowledged that one of the allegations that may have violated a Federal statute was meaningless and without merit. And people wonder why she quit. She should have stood at the microphone, looked straight at the camera and given the media a one finger salute. Eisboch |
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On Mon, 6 Jul 2009 22:11:42 -0400, "Eisboch"
wrote: "HK" wrote in message om... Palin Hit With Another Ethics Complaint Yawn. When will they stop? Batting average isn't very good. Even the FBI acknowledged that one of the allegations that may have violated a Federal statute was meaningless and without merit. And people wonder why she quit. She should have stood at the microphone, looked straight at the camera and given the media a one finger salute. Eisboch "The Media." Right. As if she didn't bring any of this on herself. So much for "personal responsibility." |
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"jps" wrote in message ... On Mon, 6 Jul 2009 22:11:42 -0400, "Eisboch" wrote: "HK" wrote in message news:uJKdnfxCzo7GNs_XnZ2dnUVZ_iydnZ2d@earthlink. com... Palin Hit With Another Ethics Complaint Yawn. When will they stop? Batting average isn't very good. Even the FBI acknowledged that one of the allegations that may have violated a Federal statute was meaningless and without merit. And people wonder why she quit. She should have stood at the microphone, looked straight at the camera and given the media a one finger salute. Eisboch "The Media." Right. As if she didn't bring any of this on herself. So much for "personal responsibility." Given some of your posts of late, I don't consider you to be much of an expert on "personal responsibility". Screaming at a TV set in a fit of rage , using acute profanity in front of your kids and then bragging about here it isn't my kind of adult personal responsibilty. A thought while you are furiously typing your response ..... tough ****. Eisboch |
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On Mon, 6 Jul 2009 22:31:27 -0400, "Eisboch"
wrote: Given some of your posts of late, I don't consider you to be much of an expert on "personal responsibility". Screaming at a TV set in a fit of rage , using acute profanity in front of your kids and then bragging about here it isn't my kind of adult personal responsibilty. Yeah, but it can be fun. Don't ask how I know. Now I always have to chastise one of my kids for using the F word too much. Payback is a bitch. --Vic |
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Eisboch wrote:
"HK" wrote in message m... Palin Hit With Another Ethics Complaint Yawn. When will they stop? Batting average isn't very good. Even the FBI acknowledged that one of the allegations that may have violated a Federal statute was meaningless and without merit. And people wonder why she quit. She should have stood at the microphone, looked straight at the camera and given the media a one finger salute. Eisboch Thhat's right...people wonder why she quit. |
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On Mon, 6 Jul 2009 22:31:27 -0400, "Eisboch"
wrote: tough ****. Eisboch That will be enough out of you young man. Go wash your mouth out with soap. :) |
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On Mon, 6 Jul 2009 22:31:27 -0400, "Eisboch"
wrote: "jps" wrote in message .. . On Mon, 6 Jul 2009 22:11:42 -0400, "Eisboch" wrote: "HK" wrote in message news:uJKdnfxCzo7GNs_XnZ2dnUVZ_iydnZ2d@earthlink .com... Palin Hit With Another Ethics Complaint Yawn. When will they stop? Batting average isn't very good. Even the FBI acknowledged that one of the allegations that may have violated a Federal statute was meaningless and without merit. And people wonder why she quit. She should have stood at the microphone, looked straight at the camera and given the media a one finger salute. Eisboch "The Media." Right. As if she didn't bring any of this on herself. So much for "personal responsibility." Given some of your posts of late, I don't consider you to be much of an expert on "personal responsibility". Screaming at a TV set in a fit of rage , using acute profanity in front of your kids and then bragging about here it isn't my kind of adult personal responsibilty. A thought while you are furiously typing your response ..... tough ****. Eisboch I suppose you never swore in front of your children. Nor did you ever yell at the television. You're just the picture of personal responsiblity, Dick. |
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On Mon, 6 Jul 2009 22:31:27 -0400, "Eisboch"
wrote: "jps" wrote in message .. . On Mon, 6 Jul 2009 22:11:42 -0400, "Eisboch" wrote: "HK" wrote in message news:uJKdnfxCzo7GNs_XnZ2dnUVZ_iydnZ2d@earthlink .com... Palin Hit With Another Ethics Complaint Yawn. When will they stop? Batting average isn't very good. Even the FBI acknowledged that one of the allegations that may have violated a Federal statute was meaningless and without merit. And people wonder why she quit. She should have stood at the microphone, looked straight at the camera and given the media a one finger salute. Eisboch "The Media." Right. As if she didn't bring any of this on herself. So much for "personal responsibility." Given some of your posts of late, I don't consider you to be much of an expert on "personal responsibility". Screaming at a TV set in a fit of rage , using acute profanity in front of your kids and then bragging about here it isn't my kind of adult personal responsibilty. A thought while you are furiously typing your response ..... tough ****. Eisboch Her talk was an exercise in illogical excuse making and you're willing to give her a pass because it was the media's fault she quit. That's your idea of personal responsibility? Blame it on the media? Weak. |
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Yogi of Woodstock wrote:
On Mon, 6 Jul 2009 22:31:27 -0400, "Eisboch" wrote: tough ****. Eisboch That will be enough out of you young man. Go wash your mouth out with soap. :) But he was talking to the girly men of the Pink Army! |
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"jps" wrote in message ... On Mon, 6 Jul 2009 22:31:27 -0400, "Eisboch" wrote: "jps" wrote in message . .. On Mon, 6 Jul 2009 22:11:42 -0400, "Eisboch" wrote: "HK" wrote in message news:uJKdnfxCzo7GNs_XnZ2dnUVZ_iydnZ2d@earthlin k.com... Palin Hit With Another Ethics Complaint Yawn. When will they stop? Batting average isn't very good. Even the FBI acknowledged that one of the allegations that may have violated a Federal statute was meaningless and without merit. And people wonder why she quit. She should have stood at the microphone, looked straight at the camera and given the media a one finger salute. Eisboch "The Media." Right. As if she didn't bring any of this on herself. So much for "personal responsibility." Given some of your posts of late, I don't consider you to be much of an expert on "personal responsibility". Screaming at a TV set in a fit of rage , using acute profanity in front of your kids and then bragging about here it isn't my kind of adult personal responsibilty. A thought while you are furiously typing your response ..... tough ****. Eisboch I suppose you never swore in front of your children. Nor did you ever yell at the television. You're just the picture of personal responsiblity, Dick. Of course I have done both. But never with the type of vulgar profanity you boast about. I have a degree of personal responsibility, you see. I am not a prude by any means, but I have more respect for people in general, my family and for myself to publically utter the type of vulgarity you seem to have no problem with. You must be a real trip in the conference room. Eisboch |
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"jps" wrote in message ... On Mon, 6 Jul 2009 22:31:27 -0400, "Eisboch" wrote: "jps" wrote in message . .. On Mon, 6 Jul 2009 22:11:42 -0400, "Eisboch" wrote: "HK" wrote in message news:uJKdnfxCzo7GNs_XnZ2dnUVZ_iydnZ2d@earthlin k.com... Palin Hit With Another Ethics Complaint Yawn. When will they stop? Batting average isn't very good. Even the FBI acknowledged that one of the allegations that may have violated a Federal statute was meaningless and without merit. And people wonder why she quit. She should have stood at the microphone, looked straight at the camera and given the media a one finger salute. Eisboch "The Media." Right. As if she didn't bring any of this on herself. So much for "personal responsibility." Given some of your posts of late, I don't consider you to be much of an expert on "personal responsibility". Screaming at a TV set in a fit of rage , using acute profanity in front of your kids and then bragging about here it isn't my kind of adult personal responsibilty. A thought while you are furiously typing your response ..... tough ****. Eisboch Her talk was an exercise in illogical excuse making and you're willing to give her a pass because it was the media's fault she quit. That's your idea of personal responsibility? Blame it on the media? Weak. Not just the liberal media. They are simply the messengers. Think about it. An obscure governor from Alaska who many had never heard of suddenly makes a dramatic arrival on the national scene. Qualified or not, she put a brief breath of life into McCain's dying campaign and captured the interest of many with a homespun style of politics. They lost of course, but the liberal left and their support media just can't get over it. It's been almost 7 months since the election and she's still in the news every day. Olbermann can't get enough of her. Harry can't get enough. You can't get enough. She suddenly is the subject of 15 or 16 ethics investigations, all but one of which have been dismissed and the remaining one will likely die as well. She's found herself with half a million dollars of personal debt for attorney fees defending baseless claims. She and her family have been the subject to a degree of personal attacks that go way beyond traditional political criticism. Harry is infactuated with the quality of her skin. What are you liberals so worried about? Eisboch |
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JustWait wrote:
Yogi of Woodstock wrote: On Mon, 6 Jul 2009 22:31:27 -0400, "Eisboch" wrote: tough ****. Eisboch That will be enough out of you young man. Go wash your mouth out with soap. :) But he was talking to the girly men of the Pink Army! Speaking of girly "men," how's that little ponytail of yours, shorty? Actual proof that **** floats: http://tinyurl.com/p5rbh9 |
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Eisboch wrote:
"jps" wrote in message ... On Mon, 6 Jul 2009 22:31:27 -0400, "Eisboch" wrote: "jps" wrote in message ... On Mon, 6 Jul 2009 22:11:42 -0400, "Eisboch" wrote: "HK" wrote in message m... Palin Hit With Another Ethics Complaint Yawn. When will they stop? Batting average isn't very good. Even the FBI acknowledged that one of the allegations that may have violated a Federal statute was meaningless and without merit. And people wonder why she quit. She should have stood at the microphone, looked straight at the camera and given the media a one finger salute. Eisboch "The Media." Right. As if she didn't bring any of this on herself. So much for "personal responsibility." Given some of your posts of late, I don't consider you to be much of an expert on "personal responsibility". Screaming at a TV set in a fit of rage , using acute profanity in front of your kids and then bragging about here it isn't my kind of adult personal responsibilty. A thought while you are furiously typing your response ..... tough ****. Eisboch Her talk was an exercise in illogical excuse making and you're willing to give her a pass because it was the media's fault she quit. That's your idea of personal responsibility? Blame it on the media? Weak. Not just the liberal media. They are simply the messengers. Think about it. An obscure governor from Alaska who many had never heard of suddenly makes a dramatic arrival on the national scene. Qualified or not, she put a brief breath of life into McCain's dying campaign and captured the interest of many with a homespun style of politics. They lost of course, but the liberal left and their support media just can't get over it. It's been almost 7 months since the election and she's still in the news every day. Olbermann can't get enough of her. Harry can't get enough. You can't get enough. She suddenly is the subject of 15 or 16 ethics investigations, all but one of which have been dismissed and the remaining one will likely die as well. She's found herself with half a million dollars of personal debt for attorney fees defending baseless claims. She and her family have been the subject to a degree of personal attacks that go way beyond traditional political criticism. Harry is infactuated with the quality of her skin. What are you liberals so worried about? Eisboch snerk Sarah Palin is the perfect "poster person" for the Republican brand. It's fun reminding people of what a piece of crap she is, an incompetent, hypocritical, lying, quitter who tries to blame everyone else for her defects and shortcomings. The woman is a cipher. But, hey, SW Tom liked her...a lot. |
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"HK" wrote in message m... Eisboch wrote: Not just the liberal media. They are simply the messengers. Think about it. An obscure governor from Alaska who many had never heard of suddenly makes a dramatic arrival on the national scene. Qualified or not, she put a brief breath of life into McCain's dying campaign and captured the interest of many with a homespun style of politics. They lost of course, but the liberal left and their support media just can't get over it. It's been almost 7 months since the election and she's still in the news every day. Olbermann can't get enough of her. Harry can't get enough. You can't get enough. She suddenly is the subject of 15 or 16 ethics investigations, all but one of which have been dismissed and the remaining one will likely die as well. She's found herself with half a million dollars of personal debt for attorney fees defending baseless claims. She and her family have been the subject to a degree of personal attacks that go way beyond traditional political criticism. Harry is infactuated with the quality of her skin. What are you liberals so worried about? Eisboch snerk Sarah Palin is the perfect "poster person" for the Republican brand. It's fun reminding people of what a piece of crap she is, an incompetent, hypocritical, lying, quitter who tries to blame everyone else for her defects and shortcomings. The woman is a cipher. But, hey, SW Tom liked her...a lot. I thought Rush was your poster boy. Make up your mind. You are entitled to one only. Eisboch |
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Eisboch wrote:
"HK" wrote in message m... Eisboch wrote: Not just the liberal media. They are simply the messengers. Think about it. An obscure governor from Alaska who many had never heard of suddenly makes a dramatic arrival on the national scene. Qualified or not, she put a brief breath of life into McCain's dying campaign and captured the interest of many with a homespun style of politics. They lost of course, but the liberal left and their support media just can't get over it. It's been almost 7 months since the election and she's still in the news every day. Olbermann can't get enough of her. Harry can't get enough. You can't get enough. She suddenly is the subject of 15 or 16 ethics investigations, all but one of which have been dismissed and the remaining one will likely die as well. She's found herself with half a million dollars of personal debt for attorney fees defending baseless claims. She and her family have been the subject to a degree of personal attacks that go way beyond traditional political criticism. Harry is infactuated with the quality of her skin. What are you liberals so worried about? Eisboch snerk Sarah Palin is the perfect "poster person" for the Republican brand. It's fun reminding people of what a piece of crap she is, an incompetent, hypocritical, lying, quitter who tries to blame everyone else for her defects and shortcomings. The woman is a cipher. But, hey, SW Tom liked her...a lot. I thought Rush was your poster boy. Make up your mind. You are entitled to one only. Eisboch Rush is the "Dear Leader." Sarah is the "Moral Compass." Gene Robinson, the Pulitzer-winning editor at the Post, pretty much nailed it: A Starter, Not a Finisher By Eugene Robinson Tuesday, July 7, 2009 What can you say about a public official who ridicules those who would take the "quitter's way out" -- as she faces reporters to announce that she's quitting? A governor who claims that "the worthless, easy path" would be to serve out the remaining 18 months of her term? An ambitious politician who says that "life is too short" to worry about, you know, boring things such as responsibility or duty? You can say that all of us who ever took Sarah Palin seriously -- or pretended to take her seriously -- should be deeply ashamed. And you can say that John McCain should publicly apologize for putting the nation he loves at risk by choosing Palin as his running mate. Imagining Palin within a heartbeat of the presidency should be enough to make even die-hard Republicans shudder. The reasons she gave for stepping down are not just contrived or implausible but literally nonsensical. She can most effectively serve the people of Alaska by ceasing to exercise the powers of chief executive? She worries that as a lame duck she would somehow be compelled to waste taxpayer money on useless junkets? In her "Don't Cry For Me, Alaska" news conference announcing her departure, the folksy non sequiturs -- "Only dead fish go with the flow" -- were like nuggets of Cartesian logic amid a tub of mush. But I'm stating the obvious. The thing is, Palin's unsuitability for high public office has been obvious all along. Tina Fey got it right; the rest of us were far too reluctant to state plainly that the emperor, or empress, has no clothes. There are basically two reasons the political class and the commentariat continue to speak and write about Palin as if she were a substantial figure whose presence on the national stage is anything but a cruel, unfunny joke. The first is fear -- not of Palin and her know-nothing legions, but of being painted as elitist and sexist. From the beginning, Palin has been a master at maneuvering her critics into this trap. Like most Americans, she didn't go to an Ivy League school; like most women, she deals every day with the challenges of juggling work and family. She highlighted these aspects of her biography, then used them to portray herself as a victim whenever anyone had the temerity to criticize anything she said or did. The most recent illustration is what she posted on her Facebook page last weekend on the reaction to her announced resignation: "How sad that Washington and the media will never understand; it's about country. And though it's honorable for countless others to leave their positions for a higher calling and without finishing a term, of course we know by now, for some reason a different standard applies for the decisions I make." What is she talking about? Who are these "countless others" who supposedly have made the same decision to abandon governorships for no credible reason? The names don't come rushing to mind. Why is any criticism of Poor Little Sarah the result of the "different standard" that mean old "Washington and the media" always apply? Because blaming her favorite alleged persecutors allows her to ignore the bewildered reaction from her constituents in Alaska who are stunned and mystified at her decision to skip out. The other reason Palin is taken more seriously than she deserves is that she has a constituency. Heaven help us. Palin has far-right conservative views, and while I disagree with her on almost everything, there's certainly nothing inappropriate or illegitimate about her philosophy. But I feel sorry for conservatives who look to her as a champion because she's going to let them down. Articulating a political vision and inspiring people to believe in it are true accomplishments, and no one can take that away from her. But realizing that vision through legislation or executive action requires discipline, persistence and rigor. To return to stating the obvious, these are attributes that Palin lacks. Anyone tempted to see her resignation gambit as a masterstroke, positioning her for a presidential run in 2012, is riding for a fall. She will flake out. Sarah Palin is by nature more of a firebrand opinion-maker than anything else. I know one when I see one. She can deny it all she wants, but really she's -- gulp -- one of us. - - - Poor, poor, pitiful Sarah. |
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"HK" wrote in message m... Gene Robinson, the Pulitzer-winning editor at the Post, pretty much nailed it: A Starter, Not a Finisher By Eugene Robinson Tuesday, July 7, 2009 I liked Eugene Robinson a lot until he became a regular contributor on Olbermann's show. He talks one way on Morning Joe and other media outlets and an entirely different way when he's with Olbermann. He's losing credibility, Pulitzer prize or not. Eisboch |
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On Tue, 7 Jul 2009 06:27:57 -0400, "Eisboch"
wrote: What are you liberals so worried about? She's everything they claim they like in women - strong personality, effective leadership, mother, interesting life story, good looking and smart, but... She's also a hunter, fisherman, Pro-Lifer, gun advocate which is everything they hate - in particular the Pro-Life thing. And she had the audacity to actually give birth to what they consider a defective human being. Guys like Jon and Harry are Nazi's when it comes to challenged or physically handicapped children - eugenisists actually. Just as bad as Goering or Hitler or Spangler. They don't see value in "defective" children - they consider them "mistakes" and some how not worthy of life. Both of them are very sad bitter men. Unfortunate. |
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On Tue, 07 Jul 2009 06:27:57 -0400, Eisboch wrote:
What are you liberals so worried about? Nothing for nothing, but she is a potential Presidential candidate. I would expect media coverage of her, especially when she does something as unusual as resigning in mid-term. As for those 16 ethics complaints, one of which she filed against herself, they haven't all been without foundation. She did have to repay moneys for her children's travel. A minor offense I'll grant you, but most of the complaints are the result of political infighting in one of our more dysfunctional and corrupt states. Still, none of this would be news worthy on a national level, if she wasn't a potential Presidential candidate. |
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Captain Marvel of Woodstock wrote:
On Tue, 7 Jul 2009 06:27:57 -0400, "Eisboch" wrote: What are you liberals so worried about? She's everything they claim they like in women - strong personality, effective leadership, mother, interesting life story, good looking and smart, but... She's also a hunter, fisherman, Pro-Lifer, gun advocate which is everything they hate - in particular the Pro-Life thing. And she had the audacity to actually give birth to what they consider a defective human being. Guys like Jon and Harry are Nazi's when it comes to challenged or physically handicapped children - eugenisists actually. Just as bad as Goering or Hitler or Spangler. They don't see value in "defective" children - they consider them "mistakes" and some how not worthy of life. Both of them are very sad bitter men. Unfortunate. Wow...you really swallowed the 8' asparagus, eh? Using your terms, I would charactize her as having an extremely flawed personality, ineffective leadership abilities, being a bad mother, and being no better than average looking. I've not seen any indicator she is smart. She's better than ok, though, delivering a teleprompted speech, but she sure as hell is lost in space without a script. I don't hate people who hunt, fish, or like guns, though I have no respect for those who hunt with guns and call it "sport." I also have no respect for moms who do not teach their daughters (and sons) about effective ways to prevent venereal diseases and unwanted pregnancies. Palin is a hypocrite. She knew she was carrying a fetus that would turn out to be a seriously challenged child if born, and also knew that if she aborted it, she'd lose "cred" with the right-wing simpies. For you to claim I see no value in challenged kids says a lot more about you than it does about me. For starters, it shows you to be completely clueless. But, then, you're the rec.boats wookie, as in, "Let the wookie win..." |
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"thunder" wrote in message t... On Tue, 07 Jul 2009 06:27:57 -0400, Eisboch wrote: What are you liberals so worried about? Nothing for nothing, but she is a potential Presidential candidate. I would expect media coverage of her, especially when she does something as unusual as resigning in mid-term. As for those 16 ethics complaints, one of which she filed against herself, they haven't all been without foundation. She did have to repay moneys for her children's travel. A minor offense I'll grant you, but most of the complaints are the result of political infighting in one of our more dysfunctional and corrupt states. Still, none of this would be news worthy on a national level, if she wasn't a potential Presidential candidate. Objectively speaking, I don't personally believe she is qualified to be POTUS. But sometimes it takes an earthquake or something to slow the swing of the pendulum from it's current direction. The faddish momentum currently enjoyed by some of the extreme left persuasion needs to be slowed a bit and then brought back to a more moderate position, IMO. She might be the annoying and frustrating earthquake to accomplish just that. Meanwhile, it will be fun to watch some people continue their hissy fits as she makes news everyday. Eisboch |
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On Tue, 07 Jul 2009 07:52:58 -0400, HK wrote:
Palin is a hypocrite. She knew she was carrying a fetus that would turn out to be a seriously challenged child if born, and also knew that if she aborted it, she'd lose "cred" with the right-wing simpies. I don't know Harry, I don't think there are any women who would make that decision, that lightly. |
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On Jul 7, 6:52*am, HK wrote:
Captain Marvel of Woodstock wrote: On Tue, 7 Jul 2009 06:27:57 -0400, "Eisboch" wrote: What are you liberals so worried about? She's everything they claim they like in women - strong personality, effective leadership, mother, interesting life story, good looking and smart, but... She's also a hunter, fisherman, Pro-Lifer, gun advocate which is everything they hate - in particular the Pro-Life thing. And she had the audacity to actually give birth to what they consider a defective human being. Guys like Jon and Harry are Nazi's when it comes to challenged or physically handicapped children - eugenisists actually. Just as bad as Goering or Hitler or Spangler. They don't see value in "defective" children - they consider them "mistakes" and some how not worthy of life. Both of them are very sad bitter men. Unfortunate. Wow...you really swallowed the 8' asparagus, eh? Herr Krause. 8" nor asparagus isn't close to what you have swallowed. |
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Eisboch wrote:
"thunder" wrote in message t... On Tue, 07 Jul 2009 06:27:57 -0400, Eisboch wrote: What are you liberals so worried about? Nothing for nothing, but she is a potential Presidential candidate. I would expect media coverage of her, especially when she does something as unusual as resigning in mid-term. As for those 16 ethics complaints, one of which she filed against herself, they haven't all been without foundation. She did have to repay moneys for her children's travel. A minor offense I'll grant you, but most of the complaints are the result of political infighting in one of our more dysfunctional and corrupt states. Still, none of this would be news worthy on a national level, if she wasn't a potential Presidential candidate. Objectively speaking, I don't personally believe she is qualified to be POTUS. But sometimes it takes an earthquake or something to slow the swing of the pendulum from it's current direction. The faddish momentum currently enjoyed by some of the extreme left persuasion needs to be slowed a bit and then brought back to a more moderate position, IMO. She might be the annoying and frustrating earthquake to accomplish just that. Meanwhile, it will be fun to watch some people continue their hissy fits as she makes news everyday. Eisboch Some of us are really enjoying her almost daily explosions and implosions, because they hurt the "Republican brand." Some of us got the same kick out of Governor Sanford's trials and tribulations for the same reasons. I don't give a crap about the governor of South Carolina or his problems, beyond what harm they can cause the GOP. I guess that's hard for you and others here to understand. Oh...speaking of Sarah, I suppose she and her lawyer have never heard of New York Times v. Sullivan. Elected public officials, basically, cannot use the courts effectively to attempt to chill criticism or reportage about how they handle their jobs. |
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"HK" wrote in message ... Captain Marvel of Woodstock wrote: On Tue, 7 Jul 2009 06:27:57 -0400, "Eisboch" wrote: What are you liberals so worried about? She's everything they claim they like in women - strong personality, effective leadership, mother, interesting life story, good looking and smart, but... She's also a hunter, fisherman, Pro-Lifer, gun advocate which is everything they hate - in particular the Pro-Life thing. And she had the audacity to actually give birth to what they consider a defective human being. Guys like Jon and Harry are Nazi's when it comes to challenged or physically handicapped children - eugenisists actually. Just as bad as Goering or Hitler or Spangler. They don't see value in "defective" children - they consider them "mistakes" and some how not worthy of life. Both of them are very sad bitter men. Unfortunate. Wow...you really swallowed the 8' asparagus, eh? Using your terms, I would charactize her as having an extremely flawed personality, ineffective leadership abilities, being a bad mother, and being no better than average looking. I've not seen any indicator she is smart. She's better than ok, though, delivering a teleprompted speech, but she sure as hell is lost in space without a script. Yet, you remain infatuated by her, cutting and pasting media articles on almost a daily basis. I don't hate people who hunt, fish, or like guns, though I have no respect for those who hunt with guns and call it "sport." You live in Maryland. She lives in Alaska. Different culture. I also have no respect for moms who do not teach their daughters (and sons) about effective ways to prevent venereal diseases and unwanted pregnancies. How do you know she didn't "teach"? I taught my kids a lot of things. Some of it they listened to. Some, they didn't. They make mistakes. So do I. Palin is a hypocrite. She knew she was carrying a fetus that would turn out to be a seriously challenged child if born, and also knew that if she aborted it, she'd lose "cred" with the right-wing simpies. Another biased Harry assumption. You have no idea what she thought but proclaim your conclusion, as expected, as being "fact". For you to claim I see no value in challenged kids says a lot more about you than it does about me. For starters, it shows you to be completely clueless. All of us are clueless about some things. Tom's just trying to help you out. Eisboch |
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Eisboch wrote:
"HK" wrote in message ... Captain Marvel of Woodstock wrote: On Tue, 7 Jul 2009 06:27:57 -0400, "Eisboch" wrote: What are you liberals so worried about? She's everything they claim they like in women - strong personality, effective leadership, mother, interesting life story, good looking and smart, but... She's also a hunter, fisherman, Pro-Lifer, gun advocate which is everything they hate - in particular the Pro-Life thing. And she had the audacity to actually give birth to what they consider a defective human being. Guys like Jon and Harry are Nazi's when it comes to challenged or physically handicapped children - eugenisists actually. Just as bad as Goering or Hitler or Spangler. They don't see value in "defective" children - they consider them "mistakes" and some how not worthy of life. Both of them are very sad bitter men. Unfortunate. Wow...you really swallowed the 8' asparagus, eh? Using your terms, I would charactize her as having an extremely flawed personality, ineffective leadership abilities, being a bad mother, and being no better than average looking. I've not seen any indicator she is smart. She's better than ok, though, delivering a teleprompted speech, but she sure as hell is lost in space without a script. Yet, you remain infatuated by her, cutting and pasting media articles on almost a daily basis. Once again, my interest in Palin is in seeing she remains an anchor dragging down the GOP ship of state, as it were. I don't hate people who hunt, fish, or like guns, though I have no respect for those who hunt with guns and call it "sport." You live in Maryland. She lives in Alaska. Different culture. We have plenty of "hunters" in Maryland. I don't consider hunting with guns a sport. I also have no respect for moms who do not teach their daughters (and sons) about effective ways to prevent venereal diseases and unwanted pregnancies. How do you know she didn't "teach"? snerk Palin is a hypocrite. She knew she was carrying a fetus that would turn out to be a seriously challenged child if born, and also knew that if she aborted it, she'd lose "cred" with the right-wing simpies. Another biased Harry assumption. You have no idea what she thought but proclaim your conclusion, as expected, as being "fact". For you to claim I see no value in challenged kids says a lot more about you than it does about me. For starters, it shows you to be completely clueless. All of us are clueless about some things. Tom's just trying to help you out. Eisboch Tom should help himself out, and see a counselor about his bipolar symptoms. |
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thunder wrote:
On Tue, 07 Jul 2009 07:52:58 -0400, HK wrote: Palin is a hypocrite. She knew she was carrying a fetus that would turn out to be a seriously challenged child if born, and also knew that if she aborted it, she'd lose "cred" with the right-wing simpies. I don't know Harry, I don't think there are any women who would make that decision, that lightly. I didn't mean to imply she made the decision lightly. It was very deliberate. |
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"HK" wrote in message m... I guess that's hard for you and others here to understand. Oh...speaking of Sarah, I suppose she and her lawyer have never heard of New York Times v. Sullivan. Elected public officials, basically, cannot use the courts effectively to attempt to chill criticism or reportage about how they handle their jobs. You really need a new angle. There's a difference between legality and common decency. Those of the extreme left persuasion are walking away from the difference. Eisboch |
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"HK" wrote in message m... I guess that's hard for you and others here to understand. Oh...speaking of Sarah, I suppose she and her lawyer have never heard of New York Times v. Sullivan. Elected public officials, basically, cannot use the courts effectively to attempt to chill criticism or reportage about how they handle their jobs. You really need a new angle. There's a difference between legality and common decency. Those of the extreme left persuasion are walking away from the difference. Eisboch Uh...the point here is that Sarah and her legal beagle last saturday threatened a reporter specifically with a lawsuit and other news organizations generally with lawsuits if they reported there were "rumors" floating around about her and potential legal problems. That's the "legality" here. Palin doesn't even have a stump to stand on in attempting to chill such reportage. Perhaps if she calmed down some, and stopped playing "poor, poor pitiful me" and the perpetual victim, she wouldn't be so obviously earning the reputation as a nutcase she now has. You know, if the internet had been around in the days of Joe McCarthy, he would have lasted about a week. It's important to stomp political demogogues into the ground, over and over and over and over, until they show no possibilities of being revived for future political games. Palin is a demogogue. |
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"HK" wrote in message m... Eisboch wrote: "HK" wrote in message m... I guess that's hard for you and others here to understand. Oh...speaking of Sarah, I suppose she and her lawyer have never heard of New York Times v. Sullivan. Elected public officials, basically, cannot use the courts effectively to attempt to chill criticism or reportage about how they handle their jobs. You really need a new angle. There's a difference between legality and common decency. Those of the extreme left persuasion are walking away from the difference. Eisboch Uh...the point here is that Sarah and her legal beagle last saturday threatened a reporter specifically with a lawsuit and other news organizations generally with lawsuits if they reported there were "rumors" floating around about her and potential legal problems. That's the "legality" here. Palin doesn't even have a stump to stand on in attempting to chill such reportage. Perhaps if she calmed down some, and stopped playing "poor, poor pitiful me" and the perpetual victim, she wouldn't be so obviously earning the reputation as a nutcase she now has. You know, if the internet had been around in the days of Joe McCarthy, he would have lasted about a week. It's important to stomp political demogogues into the ground, over and over and over and over, until they show no possibilities of being revived for future political games. Palin is a demogogue. Yada, yada, yada. You have fun. I have to go put the charger on the VW bus, then go sell some guitars. Eisboch |
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On Jul 7, 9:02*am, "Eisboch" wrote:
"HK" wrote in message m... Eisboch wrote: "HK" wrote in message news:PMCdnSxy6dLdps7XnZ2dnUVZ_vGdnZ2d@earthlink. com... I guess that's hard for you and others here to understand. Oh...speaking of Sarah, I suppose she and her lawyer have never heard of New York Times v. Sullivan. Elected public officials, basically, cannot use the courts effectively to attempt to chill criticism or reportage about how they handle their jobs. You really need a new angle. * There's a difference between legality and common decency. Those of the extreme left persuasion are walking away from the difference. Eisboch Uh...the point here is that Sarah and her legal beagle last saturday threatened a reporter specifically with a lawsuit and other news organizations generally with lawsuits if they reported there were "rumors" floating around about her and potential legal problems. That's the "legality" here. Palin doesn't even have a stump to stand on in attempting to chill such reportage. Perhaps if she calmed down some, and stopped playing "poor, poor pitiful me" and the perpetual victim, she wouldn't be so obviously earning the reputation as a nutcase she now has. You know, if the internet had been around in the days of Joe McCarthy, he would have lasted about a week. It's important to stomp political demogogues into the ground, over and over and over and over, until they show no possibilities of being revived for future political games. Palin is a demogogue. Yada, yada, yada. You have fun. *I have to go put the charger on the VW bus, then go sell some guitars. Eisboch- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - I'll bet the bus looks cool as hell in front of your vintage guitar shop! |
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On Jul 7, 7:26*am, HK wrote:
Eisboch wrote: "HK" wrote in message ... Captain Marvel of Woodstock wrote: On Tue, 7 Jul 2009 06:27:57 -0400, "Eisboch" wrote: What are you liberals so worried about? She's everything they claim they like in women - strong personality, effective leadership, mother, interesting life story, good looking and smart, but... She's also a hunter, fisherman, Pro-Lifer, gun advocate which is everything they hate - in particular the Pro-Life thing. And she had the audacity to actually give birth to what they consider a defective human being. Guys like Jon and Harry are Nazi's when it comes to challenged or physically handicapped children - eugenisists actually. Just as bad as Goering or Hitler or Spangler. They don't see value in "defective" children - they consider them "mistakes" and some how not worthy of life. Both of them are very sad bitter men. Unfortunate. Wow...you really swallowed the 8' asparagus, eh? Using your terms, I would charactize her as having an extremely flawed personality, ineffective leadership abilities, being a bad mother, and being no better than average looking. I've not seen any indicator she is smart. She's better than ok, though, delivering a teleprompted speech, but she sure as hell is lost in space without a script. Yet, you remain infatuated by her, cutting and pasting media articles on almost a daily basis. Once again, my interest in Palin is in seeing she remains an anchor dragging down the GOP ship of state, as it were. Herr Krause. You're interest in Governor Palin is that she gives you nocturnal emissions. That's why you are infatuated with her. If she isn't in the news, you have no more wet dreams. |
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thunder wrote:
On Tue, 07 Jul 2009 06:27:57 -0400, Eisboch wrote: What are you liberals so worried about? Nothing for nothing, but she is a potential Presidential candidate. I would expect media coverage of her, especially when she does something as unusual as resigning in mid-term. Did you have a problem when Obama quit being a Senator to run for President? I mean, just because he didn't make an honest announcement, doesn't mean he kept the job.. As for those 16 ethics complaints, one of which she filed against herself, they haven't all been without foundation. She did have to repay moneys for her children's travel. A minor offense I'll grant you, but most of the complaints are the result of political infighting in one of our more dysfunctional and corrupt states. Still, none of this would be news worthy on a national level, if she wasn't a potential Presidential candidate. |
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TopBassDog wrote:
On Jul 7, 6:52 am, HK wrote: Captain Marvel of Woodstock wrote: On Tue, 7 Jul 2009 06:27:57 -0400, "Eisboch" wrote: What are you liberals so worried about? She's everything they claim they like in women - strong personality, effective leadership, mother, interesting life story, good looking and smart, but... She's also a hunter, fisherman, Pro-Lifer, gun advocate which is everything they hate - in particular the Pro-Life thing. And she had the audacity to actually give birth to what they consider a defective human being. Guys like Jon and Harry are Nazi's when it comes to challenged or physically handicapped children - eugenisists actually. Just as bad as Goering or Hitler or Spangler. They don't see value in "defective" children - they consider them "mistakes" and some how not worthy of life. Both of them are very sad bitter men. Unfortunate. Wow...you really swallowed the 8' asparagus, eh? Herr Krause. 8" nor asparagus isn't close to what you have swallowed. Think "Stumpy".. and the testosterone filled weekend at the private island with the big guns... |
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JustWait wrote:
thunder wrote: On Tue, 07 Jul 2009 06:27:57 -0400, Eisboch wrote: What are you liberals so worried about? Nothing for nothing, but she is a potential Presidential candidate. I would expect media coverage of her, especially when she does something as unusual as resigning in mid-term. Did you have a problem when Obama quit being a Senator to run for President? I mean, just because he didn't make an honest announcement, doesn't mean he kept the job.. As for those 16 ethics complaints, one of which she filed against herself, they haven't all been without foundation. She did have to repay moneys for her children's travel. A minor offense I'll grant you, but most of the complaints are the result of political infighting in one of our more dysfunctional and corrupt states. Still, none of this would be news worthy on a national level, if she wasn't a potential Presidential candidate. Uh...Obama did not quit his job as U.S. Senator nor did he quit "being a U.S. Senator" to run for a higher office. He remained in the Senate. BTW, is Palin running for higher office? I must have missed that announcement. |
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On Tue, 7 Jul 2009 06:12:59 -0400, "Eisboch"
wrote: "jps" wrote in message .. . On Mon, 6 Jul 2009 22:31:27 -0400, "Eisboch" wrote: "jps" wrote in message ... On Mon, 6 Jul 2009 22:11:42 -0400, "Eisboch" wrote: "HK" wrote in message news:uJKdnfxCzo7GNs_XnZ2dnUVZ_iydnZ2d@earthli nk.com... Palin Hit With Another Ethics Complaint Yawn. When will they stop? Batting average isn't very good. Even the FBI acknowledged that one of the allegations that may have violated a Federal statute was meaningless and without merit. And people wonder why she quit. She should have stood at the microphone, looked straight at the camera and given the media a one finger salute. Eisboch "The Media." Right. As if she didn't bring any of this on herself. So much for "personal responsibility." Given some of your posts of late, I don't consider you to be much of an expert on "personal responsibility". Screaming at a TV set in a fit of rage , using acute profanity in front of your kids and then bragging about here it isn't my kind of adult personal responsibilty. A thought while you are furiously typing your response ..... tough ****. Eisboch I suppose you never swore in front of your children. Nor did you ever yell at the television. You're just the picture of personal responsiblity, Dick. Of course I have done both. But never with the type of vulgar profanity you boast about. I have a degree of personal responsibility, you see. I am not a prude by any means, but I have more respect for people in general, my family and for myself to publically utter the type of vulgarity you seem to have no problem with. You must be a real trip in the conference room. Eisboch Vulgarity is in the eyes of the beholder. In my eyes vulgarity is sending kids to die in a war of choice. Dick Cheney is a vulgar person who rightly deserves my hatred. I hate him. He's an evil ******* who cares nothing for the people he's ****ed, apart from Scooter Libby. That's vulgarity, Dick. You were among the rah rah chorus of vulgarity that happened on our watch. You're among the selfish, vulgar citizenry who'd deny another medical care for 2% of your wages. You've said as much in your critiques of Obama's "out of control spending." That's vulgarity, Dick. My vulgarity is reserved for those who think others are less deserving than themselves, since they're successful and others had the same opportunities and choices. Unfortunately the world doesn't work in such a binary fashion and some people get screwed no matter their desire, fortitude, earnestness, willingness, indiustry, etc. To deny them health care is vulgar. That's vulgarity, Dick. |
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On Tue, 07 Jul 2009 07:02:41 -0400, Captain Marvel of Woodstock
wrote: On Tue, 7 Jul 2009 06:27:57 -0400, "Eisboch" wrote: What are you liberals so worried about? She's everything they claim they like in women - strong personality, effective leadership, mother, interesting life story, good looking and smart, but... "Friends with a domestic terrorist" Said how many times? 20 - 30 - 40? Whips people into a frenzy and then says nothing when the audience suggests killing Obama? Extorts money from the state to pay for things that clearly aren't kosher expenses by any measure. That's not a woman I admire. She makes me sick. |
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On Tue, 7 Jul 2009 06:58:00 -0400, "Eisboch"
wrote: "HK" wrote in message om... Gene Robinson, the Pulitzer-winning editor at the Post, pretty much nailed it: A Starter, Not a Finisher By Eugene Robinson Tuesday, July 7, 2009 I liked Eugene Robinson a lot until he became a regular contributor on Olbermann's show. He talks one way on Morning Joe and other media outlets and an entirely different way when he's with Olbermann. He's losing credibility, Pulitzer prize or not. Eisboch And so you dismiss the message he writes in Palin being a quitter? Easy way out. Just like her. |
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On Tue, 07 Jul 2009 07:02:41 -0400, Captain Marvel of Woodstock
wrote: On Tue, 7 Jul 2009 06:27:57 -0400, "Eisboch" wrote: What are you liberals so worried about? She's everything they claim they like in women - strong personality, effective leadership, mother, interesting life story, good looking and smart, but... She's also a hunter, fisherman, Pro-Lifer, gun advocate which is everything they hate - in particular the Pro-Life thing. And she had the audacity to actually give birth to what they consider a defective human being. Guys like Jon and Harry are Nazi's when it comes to challenged or physically handicapped children - eugenisists actually. Just as bad as Goering or Hitler or Spangler. They don't see value in "defective" children - they consider them "mistakes" and some how not worthy of life. Both of them are very sad bitter men. Unfortunate. YMML. A crock of ****, stewed in your demented cranium. WTF are you talking about with handicapped children? You're insane. |
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jps wrote:
On Tue, 7 Jul 2009 06:12:59 -0400, "Eisboch" wrote: "jps" wrote in message ... On Mon, 6 Jul 2009 22:31:27 -0400, "Eisboch" wrote: "jps" wrote in message ... On Mon, 6 Jul 2009 22:11:42 -0400, "Eisboch" wrote: "HK" wrote in message m... Palin Hit With Another Ethics Complaint Yawn. When will they stop? Batting average isn't very good. Even the FBI acknowledged that one of the allegations that may have violated a Federal statute was meaningless and without merit. And people wonder why she quit. She should have stood at the microphone, looked straight at the camera and given the media a one finger salute. Eisboch "The Media." Right. As if she didn't bring any of this on herself. So much for "personal responsibility." Given some of your posts of late, I don't consider you to be much of an expert on "personal responsibility". Screaming at a TV set in a fit of rage , using acute profanity in front of your kids and then bragging about here it isn't my kind of adult personal responsibilty. A thought while you are furiously typing your response ..... tough ****. Eisboch I suppose you never swore in front of your children. Nor did you ever yell at the television. You're just the picture of personal responsiblity, Dick. Of course I have done both. But never with the type of vulgar profanity you boast about. I have a degree of personal responsibility, you see. I am not a prude by any means, but I have more respect for people in general, my family and for myself to publically utter the type of vulgarity you seem to have no problem with. You must be a real trip in the conference room. Eisboch Vulgarity is in the eyes of the beholder. In my eyes vulgarity is sending kids to die in a war of choice. Dick Cheney is a vulgar person who rightly deserves my hatred. I hate him. He's an evil ******* who cares nothing for the people he's ****ed, apart from Scooter Libby. That's vulgarity, Dick. You were among the rah rah chorus of vulgarity that happened on our watch. You're among the selfish, vulgar citizenry who'd deny another medical care for 2% of your wages. You've said as much in your critiques of Obama's "out of control spending." That's vulgarity, Dick. My vulgarity is reserved for those who think others are less deserving than themselves, since they're successful and others had the same opportunities and choices. Unfortunately the world doesn't work in such a binary fashion and some people get screwed no matter their desire, fortitude, earnestness, willingness, indiustry, etc. To deny them health care is vulgar. That's vulgarity, Dick. Right on...the real vulgarity is sending soldiers off to die in a war of convenience, or denying poor people health care, food, shelter, or a decent education for their kids. THAT is vulgarity. |
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