"Frogwatch" wrote in message
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On Jul 4, 3:29 pm, Frogwatch wrote:
On Jul 4, 3:14 pm, Vic Smith wrote:



On Sat, 4 Jul 2009 11:58:30 -0700 (PDT), Frogwatch

wrote:
Trying to put the sheet metal roof on my camper. It has to be cut to
size with tin snips giving edges that could take your arm off. The
sabre saw does an even worse job. It'll be ok in the end but I hate
this stuff.
Boat building was much more fun..

Probably circular saw blades that will do a clean cut.
Not sure, as I never did metal with one, but have done brick/concrete.
Billy Mays shilled something called the Dualsaw, with 2 circular
blades counter-rotating.
But you should be done with the snips by now, so you saved some money.

--Vic

I got it cut. To make it lay flat, I had to haul a 4 X8 sheet of ply
up on top of the camper. Then I hauled concrete blocks up the ladder
to put on the ply sheet to weight it down, It works but is a PITA.
It is effin hot out. The dogs look at me with those "You aren't going
to make me go out there eyes". They have good sense stayin in the AC..

I got my own recipe for gator aide, you can call it Frogaide.
Crystalite with a shake of salt. No carbs and no calories but it does
have the salt gatoraide has. Tastes like a Margarita.

UNICEF came up with a Pedialyte substitute for underdeveloped countries
where children would die from the shock and convulsions caused from
dehydration resulting from diarrhea.

A gallon of water. The amount of sugar you could capture in your palm with
three fingers. The amount of salt you could pinch up with thumb and two
fingers. I have added flavorings, and when I drink it, I can feel my
muscles bulge up, and not my abdomen like when you just drink too much
water. The water gets out there into the tissue. It increases the uptake
of water through the intestines by 300%. It works, it's cheap. UNICEF
videos would show children in convulsions having this literally poured
slowly down their throats, and be up and walking in half an hour.

Steve

"Vic Smith" wrote in message
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On Sat, 4 Jul 2009 11:58:30 -0700 (PDT), Frogwatch
wrote:

Trying to put the sheet metal roof on my camper. It has to be cut to
size with tin snips giving edges that could take your arm off. The
sabre saw does an even worse job. It'll be ok in the end but I hate
this stuff.
Boat building was much more fun..

Probably circular saw blades that will do a clean cut.
Not sure, as I never did metal with one, but have done brick/concrete.
Billy Mays shilled something called the Dualsaw, with 2 circular
blades counter-rotating.
But you should be done with the snips by now, so you saved some money.

--Vic

BTDT. Can't be done. Looks and sounds plausible, but it just shakes too
much, then binds, then goes flying into the next zip code. No clean edges,
either.

Steve

On Sat, 04 Jul 2009 16:14:37 -0600, SteveB wrote:


BTDT. Can't be done. Looks and sounds plausible, but it just shakes
too much, then binds, then goes flying into the next zip code. No clean
edges, either.

Steve

Turn the blade backwards, and go very slowly. The result would be
adequate, just adequate. Personally, I would use manual snips, but the
right snips. Those yellow handled Wiss snips aren't the only ones out
there. There are left cutting, right cutting, and offset snips. A pair
of right and left offsets would make the job considerably easier.

http://www.toolbarn.com/cgi-bin/sear...=aviator+snips

On Sat, 04 Jul 2009 17:43:18 -0500, thunder
wrote:

On Sat, 04 Jul 2009 16:14:37 -0600, SteveB wrote:


BTDT. Can't be done. Looks and sounds plausible, but it just shakes
too much, then binds, then goes flying into the next zip code. No clean
edges, either.

Steve

Turn the blade backwards, and go very slowly. The result would be
adequate, just adequate. Personally, I would use manual snips, but the
right snips. Those yellow handled Wiss snips aren't the only ones out
there. There are left cutting, right cutting, and offset snips. A pair
of right and left offsets would make the job considerably easier.

http://www.toolbarn.com/cgi-bin/sear...=aviator+snips

I've had some Wiss snips, and others, and quality/design counts.
The air snips sound good. Haven't cut much tin, but the problem is
always the curling metal. Just makes it all clumsy. For the non-pro
anyway.
I was thinking they might have a toothless circular blade now that
would avoid kickback, like the counter-rotating Dualsaw is supposed to
do, but maybe not. In the demo of that they cut metal.
BTW, I'm not recommending the Dualsaw.
After all, all I know about it comes from Billy Mays.

--Vic

On Sat, 04 Jul 2009 18:44:17 -0500, Vic Smith wrote:


I've had some Wiss snips, and others, and quality/design counts. The air
snips sound good. Haven't cut much tin, but the problem is always the
curling metal. Just makes it all clumsy.

That's where the offset snips come in. They can cut through large flat
sheets with out much curling. Also, the yellow handled snips (straight
cutting) are a tremendous compromise. If you're going to do any amount
of cutting, you need both left and right cutting snips.

"thunder" wrote in message
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On Sat, 04 Jul 2009 16:14:37 -0600, SteveB wrote:


BTDT. Can't be done. Looks and sounds plausible, but it just shakes
too much, then binds, then goes flying into the next zip code. No clean
edges, either.

Steve

Turn the blade backwards, and go very slowly. The result would be
adequate, just adequate. Personally, I would use manual snips, but the
right snips. Those yellow handled Wiss snips aren't the only ones out
there. There are left cutting, right cutting, and offset snips. A pair
of right and left offsets would make the job considerably easier.

http://www.toolbarn.com/cgi-bin/sear...=aviator+snips

I have about six pairs of snips that cut in every direction. I have
attempted to cut sheet metal with a metal cutting blade, but not a regular
blade reversed. I have attempted it enough times to know that unless it's a
box trailer stuck under an underpass, and it don't matter what it looks like
once you've cut it, no power does a very good job. Unless you are at a
factory, and can use a power shear with two blades that match the profile of
the goods.

YMM(and probably does)V

Steve

"Frogwatch" wrote in message
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Trying to put the sheet metal roof on my camper. It has to be cut to
size with tin snips giving edges that could take your arm off. The
sabre saw does an even worse job. It'll be ok in the end but I hate
this stuff.
Boat building was much more fun..

One thing I really like when working with sheet metal is an air cutter. One
is made like a Y that just gouges out a continual spiral cut. Another
nibbles a little piece at a time. Another is like a pair of scissors on
steroids. Any way you go, power is king. Saber saws and circular saws with
metal blades are like juggling chain saws. Eventually something's going to
happen and it ain't going to be pretty. My last experience was two rows of
fourteen stitches each.

Steve