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HK June 24th 09 03:00 AM

Travel trailer air conditioner
 
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On Mon, 22 Jun 2009 18:35:56 -0700, "Calif Bill"
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"Yogi of Woodstock" wrote in message
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On Mon, 22 Jun 2009 07:09:51 -0400, John H
wrote:

Had our little rig out this past weekend, down to Williamsburg, VA,
where the temp climbed into the 90s on Saturday. Last time we were
in
that kind of heat the air conditioner kept popping the circuit
breaker.

This time the AC worked well. Don't know if the problem was the
circuit breaker or not, but at least we kept cool this time.

We stayed at the American Heritage RV park, which is a nice place to
stay if you're ever in that neck of the woods.

Tom or Dick, if either of you happen to read this, last year one of
you suggested an instrument for testing the current at camp sites. I
didn't get it then, but want it now. Could you remind me again what
it
was, please?
The only way I know how to do it is to use a multi-meter to check
for
120 volts (on a 240 system) against neutral and ground.

Ommmmmmmmm....
It is a digital volt meter that plugs into the receptacle. And will
also
tell polarity, and most likely if you have a ground.
Well, where the hell were you all day with this information? :)
West Coast time zone, they don't get up till we go to bed. But they'll
be leaving us soon.
I feel bad now....all this time we've been accusing Kalif Bill of
swilling liquor when he's only been sleeping while posting here.
I guess we just have to talk a bit louder to wake him up.

If you had paid attention in school instead of all the beer drinking, you
might not have had to work for an employer you hated for 40 years.

Hee hee..*42* years??? I'm going back to the 'Corp' to get my pension
adjusted upward. They insist I only served 32 years.
Anyway the first dozen or so years were fine...before the financial crunch
kicked in.


Lordy! better make that *40* years. I'm getting as bad as Kalif Bill. Is
this what happens when you approach 60 years of age?



Ask Herring...speak directly into his hearing aid.

Don White June 24th 09 03:41 AM

Travel trailer air conditioner
 

"HK" wrote in message
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Don White wrote:
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"Calif Bill" wrote in message
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"Don White" wrote in message
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"D.Duck" wrote in message
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"Zombie of Woodstock" wrote in message
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On Mon, 22 Jun 2009 18:35:56 -0700, "Calif Bill"
wrote:

"Yogi of Woodstock" wrote in message
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On Mon, 22 Jun 2009 07:09:51 -0400, John H
wrote:

Had our little rig out this past weekend, down to Williamsburg,
VA,
where the temp climbed into the 90s on Saturday. Last time we
were in
that kind of heat the air conditioner kept popping the circuit
breaker.

This time the AC worked well. Don't know if the problem was the
circuit breaker or not, but at least we kept cool this time.

We stayed at the American Heritage RV park, which is a nice place
to
stay if you're ever in that neck of the woods.

Tom or Dick, if either of you happen to read this, last year one
of
you suggested an instrument for testing the current at camp
sites. I
didn't get it then, but want it now. Could you remind me again
what it
was, please?
The only way I know how to do it is to use a multi-meter to check
for
120 volts (on a 240 system) against neutral and ground.

Ommmmmmmmm....
It is a digital volt meter that plugs into the receptacle. And
will also
tell polarity, and most likely if you have a ground.
Well, where the hell were you all day with this information? :)
West Coast time zone, they don't get up till we go to bed. But
they'll be leaving us soon.
I feel bad now....all this time we've been accusing Kalif Bill of
swilling liquor when he's only been sleeping while posting here.
I guess we just have to talk a bit louder to wake him up.

If you had paid attention in school instead of all the beer drinking,
you might not have had to work for an employer you hated for 40 years.

Hee hee..*42* years??? I'm going back to the 'Corp' to get my pension
adjusted upward. They insist I only served 32 years.
Anyway the first dozen or so years were fine...before the financial
crunch kicked in.


Lordy! better make that *40* years. I'm getting as bad as Kalif Bill.
Is this what happens when you approach 60 years of age?


Ask Herring...speak directly into his hearing aid.


He's pushing 70 isn't he?



Tim June 24th 09 05:22 AM

Travel trailer air conditioner
 
On Jun 22, 9:24*am, "D.Duck" wrote:
"John H" wrote in message

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Had our little rig out this past weekend, down to Williamsburg, VA,
where the temp climbed into the 90s on Saturday. Last time we were in
that kind of heat the air conditioner kept popping the circuit
breaker.


This time the AC worked well. Don't know if the problem was the
circuit breaker or not, but at least we kept cool this time.


We stayed at the American Heritage RV park, which is a nice place to
stay if you're ever in that neck of the woods.


Tom or Dick, if either of you happen to read this, last year one of
you suggested an instrument for testing the current at camp sites. I
didn't get it then, but want it now. Could you remind me again what it
was, please?
--


John H


You may find this gadget handy:

http://www.thinkgeek.com/gadgets/travelpower/7657/


Yeah. not bad for 25 bucks.

Tim June 24th 09 05:25 AM

Travel trailer air conditioner
 
On Jun 22, 9:56*am, Wizard of Woodstock wrote:
On Mon, 22 Jun 2009 09:51:00 -0400, "Eisboch"
wrote:





"Jim24242" wrote in message
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There is a plug in tester at camping world that seems to offer all the
informatiom you need. Voltage Frequency Amps and polarity. It didn't say
how many amps though. One thing though. Ant testing you do should be at
the power pedestal BEFORE you hook your camper to it. That means you need
to use an adapter to convert from a 30A receptacle to a 15A
receptacle.


The only problem with that .... *John ... pay attention..... * is that if
the RV site's wiring or power is lacking, it will not show a voltage droop
with any load. * In other words, *the voltage may read 120vac under no load,
but after he plugs in and fires up the AC *it might droop. * He can find out
by measuring the voltage before he hooks up and then again with the AC
running at any 120vac outlet in his camper, assuming it is not powered by a
converter. * Usually the microwave and the AC are not run through the
converter, so either of the power sources inside the camper could be
checked.


The voltage at the remote power setup I had in Florida used to droop to
105vac on some days. *Bad for the AC compressor. * That's why I bought the
buck/boost transformer.


That's a good point - didn't think of that.

It's all about the load baby.

If you turn the AC on, you should be able to tell if the voltage drops
at another 120 Vac receptacle right?


I'm sure somebody ha a device out there that you can load test a
voltage drop. like you plug the thing in, hit a button and watch to
see if the source electrical devices will hold current at the
acceptable breaker amperage.

The same thing I do with my Snap-on AVM tester. obsolete with the
carbon piles etc, but it will truly tell you what batteries and
charging systems are made out of.

Tim June 24th 09 05:29 AM

Travel trailer air conditioner
 
On Jun 22, 11:42*am, Richard Casady
wrote:
On Mon, 22 Jun 2009 10:17:50 -0400, Wayne.B

wrote:
Here in the
Bahamas the quality and reliability of shorepower varies a great deal
from island to island, some being little better than third world
countries in that respect.


The working definition of third world is lacking in reliable water,
electricity and phones.

Casady


You just described rural Illinois.


?;^ )

Tim June 24th 09 05:44 AM

Travel trailer air conditioner
 
On Jun 23, 5:31*am, Zombie of Woodstock wrote:
On Tue, 23 Jun 2009 05:17:57 -0400, John H
wrote:



On Mon, 22 Jun 2009 21:23:25 -0700, "Calif Bill"
wrote:


"D.Duck" wrote in message
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"Calif Bill" wrote in message
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"Yogi of Woodstock" wrote in message
m...
On Mon, 22 Jun 2009 07:09:51 -0400, John H
wrote:


Had our little rig out this past weekend, down to Williamsburg, VA,
where the temp climbed into the 90s on Saturday. Last time we were in
that kind of heat the air conditioner kept popping the circuit
breaker.


This time the AC worked well. Don't know if the problem was the
circuit breaker or not, but at least we kept cool this time.


We stayed at the American Heritage RV park, which is a nice place to
stay if you're ever in that neck of the woods.


Tom or Dick, if either of you happen to read this, last year one of
you suggested an instrument for testing the current at camp sites. I
didn't get it then, but want it now. Could you remind me again what it
was, please?


The only way I know how to do it is to use a multi-meter to check for
120 volts (on a 240 system) against neutral and ground.


Ommmmmmmmm....


It is a digital volt meter that plugs into the receptacle. *And will also
tell polarity, and most likely if you have a ground.


Polarity?


Yup, polarity. *Is the Hot lead on the correct receptacle terminal. * *Is
the Neutral on the correct terminal. *And do you have a ground wire
attached.


Black to brass.


See, I remembered some of my electronics.


That's only if you want to blow something up.

And always cut the red wire - not the blue wire. Occasionally the
green wire. *:)


For some reason I hear the "Goldfinger" theme....

Calif Bill[_2_] June 24th 09 07:35 AM

Travel trailer air conditioner
 

"HK" wrote in message
m...
Calif Bill wrote:
"Don White" wrote in message
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"D.Duck" wrote in message
...
"Zombie of Woodstock" wrote in message
...
On Mon, 22 Jun 2009 18:35:56 -0700, "Calif Bill"
wrote:

"Yogi of Woodstock" wrote in message
...
On Mon, 22 Jun 2009 07:09:51 -0400, John H
wrote:

Had our little rig out this past weekend, down to Williamsburg, VA,
where the temp climbed into the 90s on Saturday. Last time we were
in
that kind of heat the air conditioner kept popping the circuit
breaker.

This time the AC worked well. Don't know if the problem was the
circuit breaker or not, but at least we kept cool this time.

We stayed at the American Heritage RV park, which is a nice place
to
stay if you're ever in that neck of the woods.

Tom or Dick, if either of you happen to read this, last year one of
you suggested an instrument for testing the current at camp sites.
I
didn't get it then, but want it now. Could you remind me again what
it
was, please?
The only way I know how to do it is to use a multi-meter to check
for
120 volts (on a 240 system) against neutral and ground.

Ommmmmmmmm....
It is a digital volt meter that plugs into the receptacle. And will
also
tell polarity, and most likely if you have a ground.
Well, where the hell were you all day with this information? :)
West Coast time zone, they don't get up till we go to bed. But they'll
be leaving us soon.
I feel bad now....all this time we've been accusing Kalif Bill of
swilling liquor when he's only been sleeping while posting here.
I guess we just have to talk a bit louder to wake him up.


If you had paid attention in school instead of all the beer drinking, you
might not have had to work for an employer you hated for 40 years.



Yeah, if he were an "illegal," he could have been working for you at lower
than standard wages, without fringe bennies, and been otherwise exploited.
What a thrill.


Or you could be a union member. Illegal or legal, unions want the dues.



John H[_2_] June 24th 09 11:35 AM

Travel trailer air conditioner
 
On Tue, 23 Jun 2009 21:25:24 -0700 (PDT), Tim
wrote:

On Jun 22, 9:56*am, Wizard of Woodstock wrote:
On Mon, 22 Jun 2009 09:51:00 -0400, "Eisboch"
wrote:





"Jim24242" wrote in message
...


There is a plug in tester at camping world that seems to offer all the
informatiom you need. Voltage Frequency Amps and polarity. It didn't say
how many amps though. One thing though. Ant testing you do should be at
the power pedestal BEFORE you hook your camper to it. That means you need
to use an adapter to convert from a 30A receptacle to a 15A
receptacle.


The only problem with that .... *John ... pay attention..... * is that if
the RV site's wiring or power is lacking, it will not show a voltage droop
with any load. * In other words, *the voltage may read 120vac under no load,
but after he plugs in and fires up the AC *it might droop. * He can find out
by measuring the voltage before he hooks up and then again with the AC
running at any 120vac outlet in his camper, assuming it is not powered by a
converter. * Usually the microwave and the AC are not run through the
converter, so either of the power sources inside the camper could be
checked.


The voltage at the remote power setup I had in Florida used to droop to
105vac on some days. *Bad for the AC compressor. * That's why I bought the
buck/boost transformer.


That's a good point - didn't think of that.

It's all about the load baby.

If you turn the AC on, you should be able to tell if the voltage drops
at another 120 Vac receptacle right?


I'm sure somebody ha a device out there that you can load test a
voltage drop. like you plug the thing in, hit a button and watch to
see if the source electrical devices will hold current at the
acceptable breaker amperage.

The same thing I do with my Snap-on AVM tester. obsolete with the
carbon piles etc, but it will truly tell you what batteries and
charging systems are made out of.


I've got one of these on my wish list now.

http://www.campingworld.com/shopping...-monitor/24900
--

John H

Don White June 24th 09 03:32 PM

Travel trailer air conditioner
 

"John H" wrote in message
...
On Tue, 23 Jun 2009 21:25:24 -0700 (PDT), Tim
wrote:

On Jun 22, 9:56 am, Wizard of Woodstock wrote:
On Mon, 22 Jun 2009 09:51:00 -0400, "Eisboch"
wrote:





"Jim24242" wrote in message
...

There is a plug in tester at camping world that seems to offer all
the
informatiom you need. Voltage Frequency Amps and polarity. It didn't
say
how many amps though. One thing though. Ant testing you do should be
at
the power pedestal BEFORE you hook your camper to it. That means you
need
to use an adapter to convert from a 30A receptacle to a 15A
receptacle.

The only problem with that .... John ... pay attention..... is that if
the RV site's wiring or power is lacking, it will not show a voltage
droop
with any load. In other words, the voltage may read 120vac under no
load,
but after he plugs in and fires up the AC it might droop. He can find
out
by measuring the voltage before he hooks up and then again with the AC
running at any 120vac outlet in his camper, assuming it is not powered
by a
converter. Usually the microwave and the AC are not run through the
converter, so either of the power sources inside the camper could be
checked.

The voltage at the remote power setup I had in Florida used to droop to
105vac on some days. Bad for the AC compressor. That's why I bought the
buck/boost transformer.

That's a good point - didn't think of that.

It's all about the load baby.

If you turn the AC on, you should be able to tell if the voltage drops
at another 120 Vac receptacle right?


I'm sure somebody ha a device out there that you can load test a
voltage drop. like you plug the thing in, hit a button and watch to
see if the source electrical devices will hold current at the
acceptable breaker amperage.

The same thing I do with my Snap-on AVM tester. obsolete with the
carbon piles etc, but it will truly tell you what batteries and
charging systems are made out of.


I've got one of these on my wish list now.

http://www.campingworld.com/shopping...-monitor/24900
--

John H


Great...then all you'll need is a competent person to operate it for you.



Calif Bill[_2_] June 24th 09 09:51 PM

Travel trailer air conditioner
 

"Don White" wrote in message
...

"John H" wrote in message
...
On Tue, 23 Jun 2009 21:25:24 -0700 (PDT), Tim
wrote:

On Jun 22, 9:56 am, Wizard of Woodstock wrote:
On Mon, 22 Jun 2009 09:51:00 -0400, "Eisboch"
wrote:





"Jim24242" wrote in message
...

There is a plug in tester at camping world that seems to offer all
the
informatiom you need. Voltage Frequency Amps and polarity. It didn't
say
how many amps though. One thing though. Ant testing you do should be
at
the power pedestal BEFORE you hook your camper to it. That means you
need
to use an adapter to convert from a 30A receptacle to a 15A
receptacle.

The only problem with that .... John ... pay attention..... is that if
the RV site's wiring or power is lacking, it will not show a voltage
droop
with any load. In other words, the voltage may read 120vac under no
load,
but after he plugs in and fires up the AC it might droop. He can find
out
by measuring the voltage before he hooks up and then again with the AC
running at any 120vac outlet in his camper, assuming it is not powered
by a
converter. Usually the microwave and the AC are not run through the
converter, so either of the power sources inside the camper could be
checked.

The voltage at the remote power setup I had in Florida used to droop
to
105vac on some days. Bad for the AC compressor. That's why I bought
the
buck/boost transformer.

That's a good point - didn't think of that.

It's all about the load baby.

If you turn the AC on, you should be able to tell if the voltage drops
at another 120 Vac receptacle right?

I'm sure somebody ha a device out there that you can load test a
voltage drop. like you plug the thing in, hit a button and watch to
see if the source electrical devices will hold current at the
acceptable breaker amperage.

The same thing I do with my Snap-on AVM tester. obsolete with the
carbon piles etc, but it will truly tell you what batteries and
charging systems are made out of.


I've got one of these on my wish list now.

http://www.campingworld.com/shopping...-monitor/24900
--

John H


Great...then all you'll need is a competent person to operate it for you.


That leaves out him calling you.




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