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Travel trailer air conditioner
"John H" wrote in message ... On Mon, 22 Jun 2009 11:08:32 -0400, "Eisboch" wrote: "Wizard of Woodstock" wrote in message . .. That's a good point - didn't think of that. It's all about the load baby. If you turn the AC on, you should be able to tell if the voltage drops at another 120 Vac receptacle right? Generally, yes but some campers are set up such that some of the 120 vac outlets are powered by the converter and it's regulation may take care of droop. However, the high current draw items like the AC and the microwave are wired directly to the "shore" power 120v source and do not run through the converter. Some campers get all the 120vac from the shore power source. In that case, yes, any outlet will do to check camper voltage under load. Eisboch OK, I'm back to more stupid questions. If I've checked the voltage at the box, plug everything in, and turn on the AC, how can I then determine whether or not a given outlet is coming through an inverter or not? There is a 120v socket mounted in the sink cabinet. We plug the coffee pot in it. I guess I could measure the voltage, if any, when I'm not connected to shore power. Would that work? Damn, I wish I could leave the trailer in the driveway. It sure would make life a lot easier! -- John H We know you hate to bother reading the owners manual of your toys...but I'm betting there may be an schematic of the electrical systems in your trailer. That book won't bite! |
Travel trailer air conditioner
On Sun, 28 Jun 2009 08:55:18 -0400, "Eisboch"
wrote: "John H" wrote in message .. . You really need to study the owner's manual to determine how your particular trailer is wired. Eisboch Thanks. The owners manual is a piece of crap. The first half is a list of all the 'don'ts' so they don't get sued, and the second half is so generic I could use it as the manual for my boat trailer. -- That is not unusual. Most of the RV, camper tailer manuals are the same. You'll find out over time just by experimentation as to what runs off the inverter and what doesn't. You can also get faked out though. For example, we had a Chinook Glacier RV that had a super-dooper, relatively high capacity inverter. But, it also had a sensing unit in it that detected the presence of external shore power. If it existed, the inverter internally bypassed it's own output and distributed the shore power to all outlets (except the AC and Microwave). If no shore power was detected, it switched over to it's output to supply the same outlets with 120vac. It took me a while to figure out what was going on and I had to carefully study the supplied inverter manual to discover this. Usually the microwave does not run off the inverter and is not hardwired for power, meaning somewhere you will find it is plugged into a dedicated 120vac outlet. That would be a good test point to measure your supplied shore power voltage while the AC unit is running. Eisboch That's probably in the cabinet right above the sink. I'll be picking up the trailer later this week and will check it out. Thanks for the help. -- John H "Socialism in general has a record of failure so blatant that only an intellectual could ignore or evade it." -- Thomas Sowell |
Travel trailer air conditioner
On Sun, 28 Jun 2009 10:44:43 -0300, "Don White"
wrote: "John H" wrote in message .. . On Mon, 22 Jun 2009 11:08:32 -0400, "Eisboch" wrote: "Wizard of Woodstock" wrote in message ... That's a good point - didn't think of that. It's all about the load baby. If you turn the AC on, you should be able to tell if the voltage drops at another 120 Vac receptacle right? Generally, yes but some campers are set up such that some of the 120 vac outlets are powered by the converter and it's regulation may take care of droop. However, the high current draw items like the AC and the microwave are wired directly to the "shore" power 120v source and do not run through the converter. Some campers get all the 120vac from the shore power source. In that case, yes, any outlet will do to check camper voltage under load. Eisboch OK, I'm back to more stupid questions. If I've checked the voltage at the box, plug everything in, and turn on the AC, how can I then determine whether or not a given outlet is coming through an inverter or not? There is a 120v socket mounted in the sink cabinet. We plug the coffee pot in it. I guess I could measure the voltage, if any, when I'm not connected to shore power. Would that work? Damn, I wish I could leave the trailer in the driveway. It sure would make life a lot easier! -- John H We know you hate to bother reading the owners manual of your toys...but I'm betting there may be an schematic of the electrical systems in your trailer. That book won't bite! Thank you, Don. I appreciate your assistance. -- John H "Socialism in general has a record of failure so blatant that only an intellectual could ignore or evade it." -- Thomas Sowell |
Travel trailer air conditioner
"Don White" wrote in message ... We know you hate to bother reading the owners manual of your toys...but I'm betting there may be an schematic of the electrical systems in your trailer. That book won't bite! Very doubtful. Few of the RV manufacturer's supply detailed electrical wiring schematics. Eisboch |
Travel trailer air conditioner
Don White wrote:
"John H" wrote in message ... On Mon, 22 Jun 2009 11:08:32 -0400, "Eisboch" wrote: "Wizard of Woodstock" wrote in message ... That's a good point - didn't think of that. It's all about the load baby. If you turn the AC on, you should be able to tell if the voltage drops at another 120 Vac receptacle right? Generally, yes but some campers are set up such that some of the 120 vac outlets are powered by the converter and it's regulation may take care of droop. However, the high current draw items like the AC and the microwave are wired directly to the "shore" power 120v source and do not run through the converter. Some campers get all the 120vac from the shore power source. In that case, yes, any outlet will do to check camper voltage under load. Eisboch OK, I'm back to more stupid questions. If I've checked the voltage at the box, plug everything in, and turn on the AC, how can I then determine whether or not a given outlet is coming through an inverter or not? There is a 120v socket mounted in the sink cabinet. We plug the coffee pot in it. I guess I could measure the voltage, if any, when I'm not connected to shore power. Would that work? Damn, I wish I could leave the trailer in the driveway. It sure would make life a lot easier! -- John H We know you hate to bother reading the owners manual of your toys...but I'm betting there may be an schematic of the electrical systems in your trailer. That book won't bite! Remember, that herring is a guy who, after smelling gasoline fumes emanating from the bilge of his boat, still took his grandchildren out boating. Evolution in action, and future darwin awards winner. In an electrical storm after the lights go out, he'd light a match to try to find the source of a gas leak. |
Travel trailer air conditioner
Don White wrote:
"John H" wrote in message ... On Mon, 22 Jun 2009 11:08:32 -0400, "Eisboch" wrote: "Wizard of Woodstock" wrote in message ... That's a good point - didn't think of that. It's all about the load baby. If you turn the AC on, you should be able to tell if the voltage drops at another 120 Vac receptacle right? Generally, yes but some campers are set up such that some of the 120 vac outlets are powered by the converter and it's regulation may take care of droop. However, the high current draw items like the AC and the microwave are wired directly to the "shore" power 120v source and do not run through the converter. Some campers get all the 120vac from the shore power source. In that case, yes, any outlet will do to check camper voltage under load. Eisboch OK, I'm back to more stupid questions. If I've checked the voltage at the box, plug everything in, and turn on the AC, how can I then determine whether or not a given outlet is coming through an inverter or not? There is a 120v socket mounted in the sink cabinet. We plug the coffee pot in it. I guess I could measure the voltage, if any, when I'm not connected to shore power. Would that work? Damn, I wish I could leave the trailer in the driveway. It sure would make life a lot easier! -- John H We know you hate to bother reading the owners manual of your toys...but I'm betting there may be an schematic of the electrical systems in your trailer. That book won't bite! I'm willing to bet that you MAY be wrong. |
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HK wrote:
Don White wrote: "John H" wrote in message ... On Mon, 22 Jun 2009 11:08:32 -0400, "Eisboch" wrote: "Wizard of Woodstock" wrote in message ... That's a good point - didn't think of that. It's all about the load baby. If you turn the AC on, you should be able to tell if the voltage drops at another 120 Vac receptacle right? Generally, yes but some campers are set up such that some of the 120 vac outlets are powered by the converter and it's regulation may take care of droop. However, the high current draw items like the AC and the microwave are wired directly to the "shore" power 120v source and do not run through the converter. Some campers get all the 120vac from the shore power source. In that case, yes, any outlet will do to check camper voltage under load. Eisboch OK, I'm back to more stupid questions. If I've checked the voltage at the box, plug everything in, and turn on the AC, how can I then determine whether or not a given outlet is coming through an inverter or not? There is a 120v socket mounted in the sink cabinet. We plug the coffee pot in it. I guess I could measure the voltage, if any, when I'm not connected to shore power. Would that work? Damn, I wish I could leave the trailer in the driveway. It sure would make life a lot easier! -- John H We know you hate to bother reading the owners manual of your toys...but I'm betting there may be an schematic of the electrical systems in your trailer. That book won't bite! Remember, that herring is a guy who, after smelling gasoline fumes emanating from the bilge of his boat, still took his grandchildren out boating. Evolution in action, and future darwin awards winner. In an electrical storm after the lights go out, he'd light a match to try to find the source of a gas leak. You and Donny deserve each other. When are you going to hook up? |
Travel trailer air conditioner
On Jun 28, 9:44*am, "Don White" wrote:
"John H" wrote in message ... On Mon, 22 Jun 2009 11:08:32 -0400, "Eisboch" wrote: "Wizard of Woodstock" wrote in message . .. That's a good point - didn't think of that. It's all about the load baby. If you turn the AC on, you should be able to tell if the voltage drops at another 120 Vac receptacle right? Generally, yes but some campers are set up such that some of the 120 vac outlets are powered by the converter and it's regulation may take care of droop. * However, the high current draw items like the AC and the microwave are wired directly to the "shore" power 120v source and do not run through the converter. Some campers get all the 120vac from the shore power source. *In that case, yes, any outlet will do to check camper voltage under load. Eisboch OK, I'm back to more stupid questions. If I've checked the voltage at the box, plug everything in, and turn on the AC, how can I then determine whether or not a given outlet is coming through an inverter or not? There is a 120v socket mounted in the sink cabinet. We plug the coffee pot in it. I guess I could measure the voltage, if any, when I'm not connected to shore power. Would that work? Damn, I wish I could leave the trailer in the driveway. It sure would make life a lot easier! -- John H We know you hate to bother reading the owners manual of your toys...but I'm betting there may be an schematic of the electrical systems in your trailer. That book won't bite!- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - You'd lose that bet, dummy. |
Travel trailer air conditioner
Loogypicker wrote:
On Jun 28, 9:44 am, "Don White" wrote: "John H" wrote in message ... On Mon, 22 Jun 2009 11:08:32 -0400, "Eisboch" wrote: "Wizard of Woodstock" wrote in message ... That's a good point - didn't think of that. It's all about the load baby. If you turn the AC on, you should be able to tell if the voltage drops at another 120 Vac receptacle right? Generally, yes but some campers are set up such that some of the 120 vac outlets are powered by the converter and it's regulation may take care of droop. However, the high current draw items like the AC and the microwave are wired directly to the "shore" power 120v source and do not run through the converter. Some campers get all the 120vac from the shore power source. In that case, yes, any outlet will do to check camper voltage under load. Eisboch OK, I'm back to more stupid questions. If I've checked the voltage at the box, plug everything in, and turn on the AC, how can I then determine whether or not a given outlet is coming through an inverter or not? There is a 120v socket mounted in the sink cabinet. We plug the coffee pot in it. I guess I could measure the voltage, if any, when I'm not connected to shore power. Would that work? Damn, I wish I could leave the trailer in the driveway. It sure would make life a lot easier! -- John H We know you hate to bother reading the owners manual of your toys...but I'm betting there may be an schematic of the electrical systems in your trailer. That book won't bite!- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - You'd lose that bet, dummy. No he wouldn't. He constructed that bet with all the skill of an ex community organizer/ book author we know well. Although dumb Donny probably doesn't realize why. |
Travel trailer air conditioner
Loogypicker wrote:
On Jun 28, 9:44 am, "Don White" wrote: "John H" wrote in message ... On Mon, 22 Jun 2009 11:08:32 -0400, "Eisboch" wrote: "Wizard of Woodstock" wrote in message ... That's a good point - didn't think of that. It's all about the load baby. If you turn the AC on, you should be able to tell if the voltage drops at another 120 Vac receptacle right? Generally, yes but some campers are set up such that some of the 120 vac outlets are powered by the converter and it's regulation may take care of droop. However, the high current draw items like the AC and the microwave are wired directly to the "shore" power 120v source and do not run through the converter. Some campers get all the 120vac from the shore power source. In that case, yes, any outlet will do to check camper voltage under load. Eisboch OK, I'm back to more stupid questions. If I've checked the voltage at the box, plug everything in, and turn on the AC, how can I then determine whether or not a given outlet is coming through an inverter or not? There is a 120v socket mounted in the sink cabinet. We plug the coffee pot in it. I guess I could measure the voltage, if any, when I'm not connected to shore power. Would that work? Damn, I wish I could leave the trailer in the driveway. It sure would make life a lot easier! -- John H We know you hate to bother reading the owners manual of your toys...but I'm betting there may be an schematic of the electrical systems in your trailer. That book won't bite!- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - You'd lose that bet, dummy. Got a problem with the "an schematic" part? |
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