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John H[_2_] June 22nd 09 10:23 PM

Travel trailer air conditioner
 
On Mon, 22 Jun 2009 11:39:05 -0500, Richard Casady
wrote:

On Mon, 22 Jun 2009 10:09:44 -0400, Jim24242
wrote:

Richard Casady wrote:
On Mon, 22 Jun 2009 08:23:37 -0400, Jim24242
wrote:

Ant testing you do should be at
the power pedestal BEFORE you hook your camper to it. That means you
need to use an adapter to convert from a 30A receptacle to a 15A
receptacle.

You can stick any meter probe in any recepticle, so what is the
problem. You should have a digital multimeter in any case.

Casady


There are those among us that are not handy with tools.
Think convenience. You can plug in any of number of testers designed to
do the needed testing. Or hold the meter in one hand, the first probe in
one hand, the 2nd probe in another hand and, hey wait a minute, you need
3 hands.


Two probes in one hand. Ever hear of chopsticks? A billion people can
handle those ****ers. It takes two dice, but only one hand,
to shoot craps. When I started sailboat races I had to manipulate,
simultaniously, a stopwatch, a shotgun, and two flags.

Casady


Yeahbut I don't have four arms like you guys.
--

John H

John H[_2_] June 22nd 09 10:26 PM

Travel trailer air conditioner
 
On Mon, 22 Jun 2009 11:11:33 -0400, "Eisboch"
wrote:


"Eisboch" wrote in message
m...

"Wizard of Woodstock" wrote in message
...

That's a good point - didn't think of that.

It's all about the load baby.

If you turn the AC on, you should be able to tell if the voltage drops
at another 120 Vac receptacle right?



Generally, yes but some campers are set up such that some of the 120 vac
outlets are powered by the converter and it's regulation may take care of
droop. However, the high current draw items like the AC and the
microwave are wired directly to the "shore" power 120v source and do not
run through the converter.

Some campers get all the 120vac from the shore power source. In that
case, yes, any outlet will do to check camper voltage under load.

Eisboch


Correction .... "inverter" .... not "converter". The inverter produces
120vac from 12 vdc.
The converter produces 12vdc from 120vac.

Eisboch


****. Why can't they simplify this stuff for us non-electricians?
--

John H

John H[_2_] June 22nd 09 10:30 PM

Travel trailer air conditioner
 
On Mon, 22 Jun 2009 11:38:31 -0400, "Eisboch"
wrote:


"HK" wrote in message
om...

If you want reliable power at a trailer camp, you need to carry your power
with you.

As in

http://www.hondapowerequipment.com/p...lid=EU3000ISAN



Nice guy. Your camp neighbors will love you for it.
But, then again, it's not about *them*, now is it?

Eisboch


That's an example of why I don't talk to him.
--

John H

John H[_2_] June 22nd 09 10:33 PM

Travel trailer air conditioner
 
On Mon, 22 Jun 2009 10:17:50 -0400, Wayne.B
wrote:

On Mon, 22 Jun 2009 07:09:51 -0400, John H
wrote:

Had our little rig out this past weekend, down to Williamsburg, VA,
where the temp climbed into the 90s on Saturday. Last time we were in
that kind of heat the air conditioner kept popping the circuit
breaker.

This time the AC worked well. Don't know if the problem was the
circuit breaker or not, but at least we kept cool this time.

We stayed at the American Heritage RV park, which is a nice place to
stay if you're ever in that neck of the woods.

Tom or Dick, if either of you happen to read this, last year one of
you suggested an instrument for testing the current at camp sites. I
didn't get it then, but want it now. Could you remind me again what it
was, please?


The issue with your circuit breaker popping was almost certainly
caused by low voltage due to inadequate wiring at the RV park or
possibly an overloaded utility transformer. Either way there isn't
much you can do about it other than to better understand the problem.
About the best you can do is persuade the RV park to move you to
another site and hope that the wiring there will be better. An
inexpensive digital voltmeter(DVM) is all you need.

It is possible to buy adjustable step up transformers but they are
heavy, bulky and expensive.

http://variac.com/staco_3PN10_20.htm

We run into this issue at marinas fairly frequently and sometimes have
no choice other than running the generator all night. Here in the
Bahamas the quality and reliability of shorepower varies a great deal
from island to island, some being little better than third world
countries in that respect.


I don't doubt anything you've said. Luckily the circuit breaker wasn't
as expensive as taking the AC to the shop and have them soak me for a
non-repair. After talking to the folks I was with over the weekend,
some of whom had been to the campground in question, I'm pretty sure
it was low voltage.
--

John H

John H[_2_] June 22nd 09 10:37 PM

Travel trailer air conditioner
 
On Mon, 22 Jun 2009 10:24:04 -0400, "D.Duck" wrote:


"John H" wrote in message
.. .
Had our little rig out this past weekend, down to Williamsburg, VA,
where the temp climbed into the 90s on Saturday. Last time we were in
that kind of heat the air conditioner kept popping the circuit
breaker.

This time the AC worked well. Don't know if the problem was the
circuit breaker or not, but at least we kept cool this time.

We stayed at the American Heritage RV park, which is a nice place to
stay if you're ever in that neck of the woods.

Tom or Dick, if either of you happen to read this, last year one of
you suggested an instrument for testing the current at camp sites. I
didn't get it then, but want it now. Could you remind me again what it
was, please?
--

John H


You may find this gadget handy:

http://www.thinkgeek.com/gadgets/travelpower/7657/


It's a nice gadget, but I don't see what I'd use it for. The AC
doesn't plug in, it's wired to the circuit breaker. I'll take the
multimeter next trip and see what I can learn using it at various
outlets.
--

John H

Eisboch[_4_] June 22nd 09 10:43 PM

Travel trailer air conditioner
 

"John H" wrote in message
...

****. Why can't they simplify this stuff for us non-electricians?
--

John H



It's all very simple and uncomplicated until it breaks and you have to fix
it.

Eisboch


Richard Casady June 23rd 09 12:02 AM

Travel trailer air conditioner
 
On Mon, 22 Jun 2009 15:31:16 -0400, Wayne.B
wrote:

On Mon, 22 Jun 2009 11:42:59 -0500, Richard Casady
wrote:

On Mon, 22 Jun 2009 10:17:50 -0400, Wayne.B
wrote:

Here in the
Bahamas the quality and reliability of shorepower varies a great deal
from island to island, some being little better than third world
countries in that respect.


The working definition of third world is lacking in reliable water,
electricity and phones.


Water and phones are OK. Electricity varies a lot from island to
island, also depending on how hot it is.


It would have to be Diesel power on each island, and the voltage would
depend on the ratio of engine cubic inches to AC compressor cubic
inches which would vary from island to island. As long as the beer
coolers in the bars stay semi cold, you could call the place
civilized.

Casady

Calif Bill[_2_] June 23rd 09 02:35 AM

Travel trailer air conditioner
 

"Yogi of Woodstock" wrote in message
...
On Mon, 22 Jun 2009 07:09:51 -0400, John H
wrote:

Had our little rig out this past weekend, down to Williamsburg, VA,
where the temp climbed into the 90s on Saturday. Last time we were in
that kind of heat the air conditioner kept popping the circuit
breaker.

This time the AC worked well. Don't know if the problem was the
circuit breaker or not, but at least we kept cool this time.

We stayed at the American Heritage RV park, which is a nice place to
stay if you're ever in that neck of the woods.

Tom or Dick, if either of you happen to read this, last year one of
you suggested an instrument for testing the current at camp sites. I
didn't get it then, but want it now. Could you remind me again what it
was, please?


The only way I know how to do it is to use a multi-meter to check for
120 volts (on a 240 system) against neutral and ground.

Ommmmmmmmm....


It is a digital volt meter that plugs into the receptacle. And will also
tell polarity, and most likely if you have a ground.



D.Duck June 23rd 09 02:38 AM

Travel trailer air conditioner
 

"Calif Bill" wrote in message
...

"Yogi of Woodstock" wrote in message
...
On Mon, 22 Jun 2009 07:09:51 -0400, John H
wrote:

Had our little rig out this past weekend, down to Williamsburg, VA,
where the temp climbed into the 90s on Saturday. Last time we were in
that kind of heat the air conditioner kept popping the circuit
breaker.

This time the AC worked well. Don't know if the problem was the
circuit breaker or not, but at least we kept cool this time.

We stayed at the American Heritage RV park, which is a nice place to
stay if you're ever in that neck of the woods.

Tom or Dick, if either of you happen to read this, last year one of
you suggested an instrument for testing the current at camp sites. I
didn't get it then, but want it now. Could you remind me again what it
was, please?


The only way I know how to do it is to use a multi-meter to check for
120 volts (on a 240 system) against neutral and ground.

Ommmmmmmmm....


It is a digital volt meter that plugs into the receptacle. And will also
tell polarity, and most likely if you have a ground.



Polarity?



Calif Bill[_2_] June 23rd 09 05:23 AM

Travel trailer air conditioner
 

"D.Duck" wrote in message
...

"Calif Bill" wrote in message
...

"Yogi of Woodstock" wrote in message
...
On Mon, 22 Jun 2009 07:09:51 -0400, John H
wrote:

Had our little rig out this past weekend, down to Williamsburg, VA,
where the temp climbed into the 90s on Saturday. Last time we were in
that kind of heat the air conditioner kept popping the circuit
breaker.

This time the AC worked well. Don't know if the problem was the
circuit breaker or not, but at least we kept cool this time.

We stayed at the American Heritage RV park, which is a nice place to
stay if you're ever in that neck of the woods.

Tom or Dick, if either of you happen to read this, last year one of
you suggested an instrument for testing the current at camp sites. I
didn't get it then, but want it now. Could you remind me again what it
was, please?

The only way I know how to do it is to use a multi-meter to check for
120 volts (on a 240 system) against neutral and ground.

Ommmmmmmmm....


It is a digital volt meter that plugs into the receptacle. And will also
tell polarity, and most likely if you have a ground.



Polarity?


Yup, polarity. Is the Hot lead on the correct receptacle terminal. Is
the Neutral on the correct terminal. And do you have a ground wire
attached.



D.Duck June 23rd 09 07:45 AM

Travel trailer air conditioner
 

"Calif Bill" wrote in message
...

"D.Duck" wrote in message
...

"Calif Bill" wrote in message
...

"Yogi of Woodstock" wrote in message
...
On Mon, 22 Jun 2009 07:09:51 -0400, John H
wrote:

Had our little rig out this past weekend, down to Williamsburg, VA,
where the temp climbed into the 90s on Saturday. Last time we were in
that kind of heat the air conditioner kept popping the circuit
breaker.

This time the AC worked well. Don't know if the problem was the
circuit breaker or not, but at least we kept cool this time.

We stayed at the American Heritage RV park, which is a nice place to
stay if you're ever in that neck of the woods.

Tom or Dick, if either of you happen to read this, last year one of
you suggested an instrument for testing the current at camp sites. I
didn't get it then, but want it now. Could you remind me again what it
was, please?

The only way I know how to do it is to use a multi-meter to check for
120 volts (on a 240 system) against neutral and ground.

Ommmmmmmmm....

It is a digital volt meter that plugs into the receptacle. And will
also tell polarity, and most likely if you have a ground.



Polarity?


Yup, polarity. Is the Hot lead on the correct receptacle terminal. Is
the Neutral on the correct terminal. And do you have a ground wire
attached.


That's not just any run of the mill DVM.



John H[_2_] June 23rd 09 10:17 AM

Travel trailer air conditioner
 
On Mon, 22 Jun 2009 21:23:25 -0700, "Calif Bill"
wrote:


"D.Duck" wrote in message
m...

"Calif Bill" wrote in message
...

"Yogi of Woodstock" wrote in message
...
On Mon, 22 Jun 2009 07:09:51 -0400, John H
wrote:

Had our little rig out this past weekend, down to Williamsburg, VA,
where the temp climbed into the 90s on Saturday. Last time we were in
that kind of heat the air conditioner kept popping the circuit
breaker.

This time the AC worked well. Don't know if the problem was the
circuit breaker or not, but at least we kept cool this time.

We stayed at the American Heritage RV park, which is a nice place to
stay if you're ever in that neck of the woods.

Tom or Dick, if either of you happen to read this, last year one of
you suggested an instrument for testing the current at camp sites. I
didn't get it then, but want it now. Could you remind me again what it
was, please?

The only way I know how to do it is to use a multi-meter to check for
120 volts (on a 240 system) against neutral and ground.

Ommmmmmmmm....

It is a digital volt meter that plugs into the receptacle. And will also
tell polarity, and most likely if you have a ground.



Polarity?


Yup, polarity. Is the Hot lead on the correct receptacle terminal. Is
the Neutral on the correct terminal. And do you have a ground wire
attached.


Black to brass.

See, I remembered some of my electronics.
--

John H

Zombie of Woodstock June 23rd 09 11:29 AM

Travel trailer air conditioner
 
On Mon, 22 Jun 2009 18:35:56 -0700, "Calif Bill"
wrote:


"Yogi of Woodstock" wrote in message
.. .
On Mon, 22 Jun 2009 07:09:51 -0400, John H
wrote:

Had our little rig out this past weekend, down to Williamsburg, VA,
where the temp climbed into the 90s on Saturday. Last time we were in
that kind of heat the air conditioner kept popping the circuit
breaker.

This time the AC worked well. Don't know if the problem was the
circuit breaker or not, but at least we kept cool this time.

We stayed at the American Heritage RV park, which is a nice place to
stay if you're ever in that neck of the woods.

Tom or Dick, if either of you happen to read this, last year one of
you suggested an instrument for testing the current at camp sites. I
didn't get it then, but want it now. Could you remind me again what it
was, please?


The only way I know how to do it is to use a multi-meter to check for
120 volts (on a 240 system) against neutral and ground.

Ommmmmmmmm....


It is a digital volt meter that plugs into the receptacle. And will also
tell polarity, and most likely if you have a ground.


Well, where the hell were you all day with this information? :)

Zombie of Woodstock June 23rd 09 11:30 AM

Travel trailer air conditioner
 
On Mon, 22 Jun 2009 21:38:23 -0400, "D.Duck" wrote:


"Calif Bill" wrote in message
...

"Yogi of Woodstock" wrote in message
...
On Mon, 22 Jun 2009 07:09:51 -0400, John H
wrote:

Had our little rig out this past weekend, down to Williamsburg, VA,
where the temp climbed into the 90s on Saturday. Last time we were in
that kind of heat the air conditioner kept popping the circuit
breaker.

This time the AC worked well. Don't know if the problem was the
circuit breaker or not, but at least we kept cool this time.

We stayed at the American Heritage RV park, which is a nice place to
stay if you're ever in that neck of the woods.

Tom or Dick, if either of you happen to read this, last year one of
you suggested an instrument for testing the current at camp sites. I
didn't get it then, but want it now. Could you remind me again what it
was, please?

The only way I know how to do it is to use a multi-meter to check for
120 volts (on a 240 system) against neutral and ground.

Ommmmmmmmm....


It is a digital volt meter that plugs into the receptacle. And will also
tell polarity, and most likely if you have a ground.


Polarity?


Kind of like hilarity only spelled different.

Zombie of Woodstock June 23rd 09 11:31 AM

Travel trailer air conditioner
 
On Tue, 23 Jun 2009 05:17:57 -0400, John H
wrote:

On Mon, 22 Jun 2009 21:23:25 -0700, "Calif Bill"
wrote:


"D.Duck" wrote in message
om...

"Calif Bill" wrote in message
...

"Yogi of Woodstock" wrote in message
...
On Mon, 22 Jun 2009 07:09:51 -0400, John H
wrote:

Had our little rig out this past weekend, down to Williamsburg, VA,
where the temp climbed into the 90s on Saturday. Last time we were in
that kind of heat the air conditioner kept popping the circuit
breaker.

This time the AC worked well. Don't know if the problem was the
circuit breaker or not, but at least we kept cool this time.

We stayed at the American Heritage RV park, which is a nice place to
stay if you're ever in that neck of the woods.

Tom or Dick, if either of you happen to read this, last year one of
you suggested an instrument for testing the current at camp sites. I
didn't get it then, but want it now. Could you remind me again what it
was, please?

The only way I know how to do it is to use a multi-meter to check for
120 volts (on a 240 system) against neutral and ground.

Ommmmmmmmm....

It is a digital volt meter that plugs into the receptacle. And will also
tell polarity, and most likely if you have a ground.



Polarity?


Yup, polarity. Is the Hot lead on the correct receptacle terminal. Is
the Neutral on the correct terminal. And do you have a ground wire
attached.


Black to brass.

See, I remembered some of my electronics.


That's only if you want to blow something up.

And always cut the red wire - not the blue wire. Occasionally the
green wire. :)

Jim24242 June 23rd 09 11:44 AM

Travel trailer air conditioner
 
D.Duck wrote:
"Calif Bill" wrote in message
...
"D.Duck" wrote in message
...
"Calif Bill" wrote in message
...
"Yogi of Woodstock" wrote in message
...
On Mon, 22 Jun 2009 07:09:51 -0400, John H
wrote:

Had our little rig out this past weekend, down to Williamsburg, VA,
where the temp climbed into the 90s on Saturday. Last time we were in
that kind of heat the air conditioner kept popping the circuit
breaker.

This time the AC worked well. Don't know if the problem was the
circuit breaker or not, but at least we kept cool this time.

We stayed at the American Heritage RV park, which is a nice place to
stay if you're ever in that neck of the woods.

Tom or Dick, if either of you happen to read this, last year one of
you suggested an instrument for testing the current at camp sites. I
didn't get it then, but want it now. Could you remind me again what it
was, please?
The only way I know how to do it is to use a multi-meter to check for
120 volts (on a 240 system) against neutral and ground.

Ommmmmmmmm....
It is a digital volt meter that plugs into the receptacle. And will
also tell polarity, and most likely if you have a ground.


Polarity?

Yup, polarity. Is the Hot lead on the correct receptacle terminal. Is
the Neutral on the correct terminal. And do you have a ground wire
attached.


That's not just any run of the mill DVM.


The meter I saw at Camping World yesterday was digital and it measured
voltage and frequency and checked polarity. It also had an audible alarm
if voltage or frequency went out of range or if polarity was wrong. It
plugs into a 110 15A jack. Plug into a power post and learn if it is
safe to plug in your camper. Then put the tester in an outlet inside the
camper to continuously monitor the power.

Jim24242 June 23rd 09 12:01 PM

Travel trailer air conditioner
 
Zombie of Woodstock wrote:
On Tue, 23 Jun 2009 05:17:57 -0400, John H
wrote:

On Mon, 22 Jun 2009 21:23:25 -0700, "Calif Bill"
wrote:

"D.Duck" wrote in message
...
"Calif Bill" wrote in message
...
"Yogi of Woodstock" wrote in message
...
On Mon, 22 Jun 2009 07:09:51 -0400, John H
wrote:

Had our little rig out this past weekend, down to Williamsburg, VA,
where the temp climbed into the 90s on Saturday. Last time we were in
that kind of heat the air conditioner kept popping the circuit
breaker.

This time the AC worked well. Don't know if the problem was the
circuit breaker or not, but at least we kept cool this time.

We stayed at the American Heritage RV park, which is a nice place to
stay if you're ever in that neck of the woods.

Tom or Dick, if either of you happen to read this, last year one of
you suggested an instrument for testing the current at camp sites. I
didn't get it then, but want it now. Could you remind me again what it
was, please?
The only way I know how to do it is to use a multi-meter to check for
120 volts (on a 240 system) against neutral and ground.

Ommmmmmmmm....
It is a digital volt meter that plugs into the receptacle. And will also
tell polarity, and most likely if you have a ground.


Polarity?

Yup, polarity. Is the Hot lead on the correct receptacle terminal. Is
the Neutral on the correct terminal. And do you have a ground wire
attached.

Black to brass.

See, I remembered some of my electronics.


That's only if you want to blow something up.

And always cut the red wire - not the blue wire. Occasionally the
green wire. :)


Or pull the fuse out.

Zombie of Woodstock June 23rd 09 12:32 PM

Travel trailer air conditioner
 
On Tue, 23 Jun 2009 07:01:54 -0400, Jim24242
wrote:

Zombie of Woodstock wrote:
On Tue, 23 Jun 2009 05:17:57 -0400, John H
wrote:

On Mon, 22 Jun 2009 21:23:25 -0700, "Calif Bill"
wrote:

"D.Duck" wrote in message
...
"Calif Bill" wrote in message
...
"Yogi of Woodstock" wrote in message
...
On Mon, 22 Jun 2009 07:09:51 -0400, John H
wrote:

Had our little rig out this past weekend, down to Williamsburg, VA,
where the temp climbed into the 90s on Saturday. Last time we were in
that kind of heat the air conditioner kept popping the circuit
breaker.

This time the AC worked well. Don't know if the problem was the
circuit breaker or not, but at least we kept cool this time.

We stayed at the American Heritage RV park, which is a nice place to
stay if you're ever in that neck of the woods.

Tom or Dick, if either of you happen to read this, last year one of
you suggested an instrument for testing the current at camp sites. I
didn't get it then, but want it now. Could you remind me again what it
was, please?
The only way I know how to do it is to use a multi-meter to check for
120 volts (on a 240 system) against neutral and ground.

Ommmmmmmmm....
It is a digital volt meter that plugs into the receptacle. And will also
tell polarity, and most likely if you have a ground.


Polarity?

Yup, polarity. Is the Hot lead on the correct receptacle terminal. Is
the Neutral on the correct terminal. And do you have a ground wire
attached.

Black to brass.

See, I remembered some of my electronics.


That's only if you want to blow something up.

And always cut the red wire - not the blue wire. Occasionally the
green wire. :)


Or pull the fuse out.


What if it doesn't have a fuse?

John H[_2_] June 23rd 09 12:35 PM

Travel trailer air conditioner
 
On Tue, 23 Jun 2009 06:44:46 -0400, Jim24242
wrote:

D.Duck wrote:
"Calif Bill" wrote in message
...
"D.Duck" wrote in message
...
"Calif Bill" wrote in message
...
"Yogi of Woodstock" wrote in message
...
On Mon, 22 Jun 2009 07:09:51 -0400, John H
wrote:

Had our little rig out this past weekend, down to Williamsburg, VA,
where the temp climbed into the 90s on Saturday. Last time we were in
that kind of heat the air conditioner kept popping the circuit
breaker.

This time the AC worked well. Don't know if the problem was the
circuit breaker or not, but at least we kept cool this time.

We stayed at the American Heritage RV park, which is a nice place to
stay if you're ever in that neck of the woods.

Tom or Dick, if either of you happen to read this, last year one of
you suggested an instrument for testing the current at camp sites. I
didn't get it then, but want it now. Could you remind me again what it
was, please?
The only way I know how to do it is to use a multi-meter to check for
120 volts (on a 240 system) against neutral and ground.

Ommmmmmmmm....
It is a digital volt meter that plugs into the receptacle. And will
also tell polarity, and most likely if you have a ground.


Polarity?

Yup, polarity. Is the Hot lead on the correct receptacle terminal. Is
the Neutral on the correct terminal. And do you have a ground wire
attached.


That's not just any run of the mill DVM.


The meter I saw at Camping World yesterday was digital and it measured
voltage and frequency and checked polarity. It also had an audible alarm
if voltage or frequency went out of range or if polarity was wrong. It
plugs into a 110 15A jack. Plug into a power post and learn if it is
safe to plug in your camper. Then put the tester in an outlet inside the
camper to continuously monitor the power.


I still have some reading to do, but why only 15A if the trailer is a
30A?
--

John H

D.Duck June 23rd 09 12:41 PM

Travel trailer air conditioner
 

"Jim24242" wrote in message
...
D.Duck wrote:
"Calif Bill" wrote in message
...
"D.Duck" wrote in message
...
"Calif Bill" wrote in message
...
"Yogi of Woodstock" wrote in message
...
On Mon, 22 Jun 2009 07:09:51 -0400, John H
wrote:

Had our little rig out this past weekend, down to Williamsburg, VA,
where the temp climbed into the 90s on Saturday. Last time we were
in
that kind of heat the air conditioner kept popping the circuit
breaker.

This time the AC worked well. Don't know if the problem was the
circuit breaker or not, but at least we kept cool this time.

We stayed at the American Heritage RV park, which is a nice place to
stay if you're ever in that neck of the woods.

Tom or Dick, if either of you happen to read this, last year one of
you suggested an instrument for testing the current at camp sites. I
didn't get it then, but want it now. Could you remind me again what
it
was, please?
The only way I know how to do it is to use a multi-meter to check for
120 volts (on a 240 system) against neutral and ground.

Ommmmmmmmm....
It is a digital volt meter that plugs into the receptacle. And will
also tell polarity, and most likely if you have a ground.


Polarity?

Yup, polarity. Is the Hot lead on the correct receptacle terminal.
Is the Neutral on the correct terminal. And do you have a ground wire
attached.


That's not just any run of the mill DVM.

The meter I saw at Camping World yesterday was digital and it measured
voltage and frequency and checked polarity. It also had an audible alarm
if voltage or frequency went out of range or if polarity was wrong. It
plugs into a 110 15A jack. Plug into a power post and learn if it is safe
to plug in your camper. Then put the tester in an outlet inside the camper
to continuously monitor the power.


My point was that not "any" DVM is going to do all that.



D.Duck June 23rd 09 12:43 PM

Travel trailer air conditioner
 

"Zombie of Woodstock" wrote in message
...
On Mon, 22 Jun 2009 18:35:56 -0700, "Calif Bill"
wrote:


"Yogi of Woodstock" wrote in message
. ..
On Mon, 22 Jun 2009 07:09:51 -0400, John H
wrote:

Had our little rig out this past weekend, down to Williamsburg, VA,
where the temp climbed into the 90s on Saturday. Last time we were in
that kind of heat the air conditioner kept popping the circuit
breaker.

This time the AC worked well. Don't know if the problem was the
circuit breaker or not, but at least we kept cool this time.

We stayed at the American Heritage RV park, which is a nice place to
stay if you're ever in that neck of the woods.

Tom or Dick, if either of you happen to read this, last year one of
you suggested an instrument for testing the current at camp sites. I
didn't get it then, but want it now. Could you remind me again what it
was, please?

The only way I know how to do it is to use a multi-meter to check for
120 volts (on a 240 system) against neutral and ground.

Ommmmmmmmm....


It is a digital volt meter that plugs into the receptacle. And will also
tell polarity, and most likely if you have a ground.


Well, where the hell were you all day with this information? :)


West Coast time zone, they don't get up till we go to bed. But they'll be
leaving us soon.



Jim24242 June 23rd 09 12:47 PM

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Zombie of Woodstock wrote:
On Tue, 23 Jun 2009 07:01:54 -0400, Jim24242
wrote:

Zombie of Woodstock wrote:
On Tue, 23 Jun 2009 05:17:57 -0400, John H
wrote:

On Mon, 22 Jun 2009 21:23:25 -0700, "Calif Bill"
wrote:

"D.Duck" wrote in message
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"Calif Bill" wrote in message
...
"Yogi of Woodstock" wrote in message
...
On Mon, 22 Jun 2009 07:09:51 -0400, John H
wrote:

Had our little rig out this past weekend, down to Williamsburg, VA,
where the temp climbed into the 90s on Saturday. Last time we were in
that kind of heat the air conditioner kept popping the circuit
breaker.

This time the AC worked well. Don't know if the problem was the
circuit breaker or not, but at least we kept cool this time.

We stayed at the American Heritage RV park, which is a nice place to
stay if you're ever in that neck of the woods.

Tom or Dick, if either of you happen to read this, last year one of
you suggested an instrument for testing the current at camp sites. I
didn't get it then, but want it now. Could you remind me again what it
was, please?
The only way I know how to do it is to use a multi-meter to check for
120 volts (on a 240 system) against neutral and ground.

Ommmmmmmmm....
It is a digital volt meter that plugs into the receptacle. And will also
tell polarity, and most likely if you have a ground.

Polarity?

Yup, polarity. Is the Hot lead on the correct receptacle terminal. Is
the Neutral on the correct terminal. And do you have a ground wire
attached.

Black to brass.

See, I remembered some of my electronics.
That's only if you want to blow something up.

And always cut the red wire - not the blue wire. Occasionally the
green wire. :)

Or pull the fuse out.


What if it doesn't have a fuse?

blasting cap igniter trigger whatever.
The red wire has continuous voltage on it. Red with white stripe
indicates switched voltage. Do You think your local bomb maker knows
color coding?

Wizard of Woodstock June 23rd 09 12:54 PM

Travel trailer air conditioner
 
On Tue, 23 Jun 2009 07:47:05 -0400, Jim24242
wrote:

Do You think your local bomb maker knows color coding?


Well obviously they don't in the movies.

Don White June 23rd 09 01:00 PM

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"D.Duck" wrote in message
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"Zombie of Woodstock" wrote in message
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On Mon, 22 Jun 2009 18:35:56 -0700, "Calif Bill"
wrote:


"Yogi of Woodstock" wrote in message
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On Mon, 22 Jun 2009 07:09:51 -0400, John H
wrote:

Had our little rig out this past weekend, down to Williamsburg, VA,
where the temp climbed into the 90s on Saturday. Last time we were in
that kind of heat the air conditioner kept popping the circuit
breaker.

This time the AC worked well. Don't know if the problem was the
circuit breaker or not, but at least we kept cool this time.

We stayed at the American Heritage RV park, which is a nice place to
stay if you're ever in that neck of the woods.

Tom or Dick, if either of you happen to read this, last year one of
you suggested an instrument for testing the current at camp sites. I
didn't get it then, but want it now. Could you remind me again what it
was, please?

The only way I know how to do it is to use a multi-meter to check for
120 volts (on a 240 system) against neutral and ground.

Ommmmmmmmm....

It is a digital volt meter that plugs into the receptacle. And will also
tell polarity, and most likely if you have a ground.


Well, where the hell were you all day with this information? :)


West Coast time zone, they don't get up till we go to bed. But they'll be
leaving us soon.


I feel bad now....all this time we've been accusing Kalif Bill of swilling
liquor when he's only been sleeping while posting here.
I guess we just have to talk a bit louder to wake him up.



Jim24242 June 23rd 09 01:13 PM

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D.Duck wrote:
"Jim24242" wrote in message
...
D.Duck wrote:
"Calif Bill" wrote in message
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"D.Duck" wrote in message
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"Calif Bill" wrote in message
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"Yogi of Woodstock" wrote in message
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On Mon, 22 Jun 2009 07:09:51 -0400, John H
wrote:

Had our little rig out this past weekend, down to Williamsburg, VA,
where the temp climbed into the 90s on Saturday. Last time we were
in
that kind of heat the air conditioner kept popping the circuit
breaker.

This time the AC worked well. Don't know if the problem was the
circuit breaker or not, but at least we kept cool this time.

We stayed at the American Heritage RV park, which is a nice place to
stay if you're ever in that neck of the woods.

Tom or Dick, if either of you happen to read this, last year one of
you suggested an instrument for testing the current at camp sites. I
didn't get it then, but want it now. Could you remind me again what
it
was, please?
The only way I know how to do it is to use a multi-meter to check for
120 volts (on a 240 system) against neutral and ground.

Ommmmmmmmm....
It is a digital volt meter that plugs into the receptacle. And will
also tell polarity, and most likely if you have a ground.

Polarity?

Yup, polarity. Is the Hot lead on the correct receptacle terminal.
Is the Neutral on the correct terminal. And do you have a ground wire
attached.
That's not just any run of the mill DVM.

The meter I saw at Camping World yesterday was digital and it measured
voltage and frequency and checked polarity. It also had an audible alarm
if voltage or frequency went out of range or if polarity was wrong. It
plugs into a 110 15A jack. Plug into a power post and learn if it is safe
to plug in your camper. Then put the tester in an outlet inside the camper
to continuously monitor the power.


My point was that not "any" DVM is going to do all that.


Sure. A dedicated device like this makes a lot of sense.

Richard Casady June 23rd 09 01:13 PM

Travel trailer air conditioner
 
On Tue, 23 Jun 2009 06:44:46 -0400, Jim24242
wrote:

D.Duck wrote:
"Calif Bill" wrote in message
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"D.Duck" wrote in message
...
"Calif Bill" wrote in message
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"Yogi of Woodstock" wrote in message
...
On Mon, 22 Jun 2009 07:09:51 -0400, John H
wrote:

Had our little rig out this past weekend, down to Williamsburg, VA,
where the temp climbed into the 90s on Saturday. Last time we were in
that kind of heat the air conditioner kept popping the circuit
breaker.

This time the AC worked well. Don't know if the problem was the
circuit breaker or not, but at least we kept cool this time.

We stayed at the American Heritage RV park, which is a nice place to
stay if you're ever in that neck of the woods.

Tom or Dick, if either of you happen to read this, last year one of
you suggested an instrument for testing the current at camp sites. I
didn't get it then, but want it now. Could you remind me again what it
was, please?
The only way I know how to do it is to use a multi-meter to check for
120 volts (on a 240 system) against neutral and ground.

Ommmmmmmmm....
It is a digital volt meter that plugs into the receptacle. And will
also tell polarity, and most likely if you have a ground.


Polarity?

Yup, polarity. Is the Hot lead on the correct receptacle terminal. Is
the Neutral on the correct terminal. And do you have a ground wire
attached.


That's not just any run of the mill DVM.


The meter I saw at Camping World yesterday was digital and it measured
voltage and frequency and checked polarity. It also had an audible alarm
if voltage or frequency went out of range or if polarity was wrong. It
plugs into a 110 15A jack. Plug into a power post and learn if it is
safe to plug in your camper. Then put the tester in an outlet inside the
camper to continuously monitor the power.


When there was no such thing as digital, you could check out an outlet
with a neon bulb. They came in a housing, with leads to shove in the
outlet slots.

Casady

Jim24242 June 23rd 09 01:28 PM

Travel trailer air conditioner
 
John H wrote:
On Tue, 23 Jun 2009 06:44:46 -0400, Jim24242
wrote:

D.Duck wrote:
"Calif Bill" wrote in message
...
"D.Duck" wrote in message
...
"Calif Bill" wrote in message
...
"Yogi of Woodstock" wrote in message
...
On Mon, 22 Jun 2009 07:09:51 -0400, John H
wrote:

Had our little rig out this past weekend, down to Williamsburg, VA,
where the temp climbed into the 90s on Saturday. Last time we were in
that kind of heat the air conditioner kept popping the circuit
breaker.

This time the AC worked well. Don't know if the problem was the
circuit breaker or not, but at least we kept cool this time.

We stayed at the American Heritage RV park, which is a nice place to
stay if you're ever in that neck of the woods.

Tom or Dick, if either of you happen to read this, last year one of
you suggested an instrument for testing the current at camp sites. I
didn't get it then, but want it now. Could you remind me again what it
was, please?
The only way I know how to do it is to use a multi-meter to check for
120 volts (on a 240 system) against neutral and ground.

Ommmmmmmmm....
It is a digital volt meter that plugs into the receptacle. And will
also tell polarity, and most likely if you have a ground.

Polarity?

Yup, polarity. Is the Hot lead on the correct receptacle terminal. Is
the Neutral on the correct terminal. And do you have a ground wire
attached.
That's not just any run of the mill DVM.


The meter I saw at Camping World yesterday was digital and it measured
voltage and frequency and checked polarity. It also had an audible alarm
if voltage or frequency went out of range or if polarity was wrong. It
plugs into a 110 15A jack. Plug into a power post and learn if it is
safe to plug in your camper. Then put the tester in an outlet inside the
camper to continuously monitor the power.


I still have some reading to do, but why only 15A if the trailer is a
30A?
--

John H

It's not an ammeter. It doesn't care if you have 30 A service or 50A
service. If you want to measure amps you need a different tester. The
killowatt can function as an ammeter but only to 15A. It might work with
a high efficiency AC like your camper probably has, but you would need a
second adapter to convert a 15A to a 30A plug and plug your shore cord
into it. If it was to work to test your AC, you would need to turn off
all other AC loads.

Didn't you say that you were having AC problems last year when you
plugged in at your garage?

John H[_2_] June 23rd 09 09:59 PM

Travel trailer air conditioner
 
On Tue, 23 Jun 2009 09:00:23 -0300, "Don White"
wrote:


"D.Duck" wrote in message
m...

"Zombie of Woodstock" wrote in message
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On Mon, 22 Jun 2009 18:35:56 -0700, "Calif Bill"
wrote:


"Yogi of Woodstock" wrote in message
m...
On Mon, 22 Jun 2009 07:09:51 -0400, John H
wrote:

Had our little rig out this past weekend, down to Williamsburg, VA,
where the temp climbed into the 90s on Saturday. Last time we were in
that kind of heat the air conditioner kept popping the circuit
breaker.

This time the AC worked well. Don't know if the problem was the
circuit breaker or not, but at least we kept cool this time.

We stayed at the American Heritage RV park, which is a nice place to
stay if you're ever in that neck of the woods.

Tom or Dick, if either of you happen to read this, last year one of
you suggested an instrument for testing the current at camp sites. I
didn't get it then, but want it now. Could you remind me again what it
was, please?

The only way I know how to do it is to use a multi-meter to check for
120 volts (on a 240 system) against neutral and ground.

Ommmmmmmmm....

It is a digital volt meter that plugs into the receptacle. And will also
tell polarity, and most likely if you have a ground.

Well, where the hell were you all day with this information? :)


West Coast time zone, they don't get up till we go to bed. But they'll be
leaving us soon.


I feel bad now....all this time we've been accusing Kalif Bill of swilling
liquor when he's only been sleeping while posting here.
I guess we just have to talk a bit louder to wake him up.


You might, Donnie, try shutting the f**k up and learning something.
--

John H

John H[_2_] June 23rd 09 10:00 PM

Travel trailer air conditioner
 
On Tue, 23 Jun 2009 08:28:19 -0400, Jim24242
wrote:

John H wrote:
On Tue, 23 Jun 2009 06:44:46 -0400, Jim24242
wrote:

D.Duck wrote:
"Calif Bill" wrote in message
...
"D.Duck" wrote in message
...
"Calif Bill" wrote in message
...
"Yogi of Woodstock" wrote in message
...
On Mon, 22 Jun 2009 07:09:51 -0400, John H
wrote:

Had our little rig out this past weekend, down to Williamsburg, VA,
where the temp climbed into the 90s on Saturday. Last time we were in
that kind of heat the air conditioner kept popping the circuit
breaker.

This time the AC worked well. Don't know if the problem was the
circuit breaker or not, but at least we kept cool this time.

We stayed at the American Heritage RV park, which is a nice place to
stay if you're ever in that neck of the woods.

Tom or Dick, if either of you happen to read this, last year one of
you suggested an instrument for testing the current at camp sites. I
didn't get it then, but want it now. Could you remind me again what it
was, please?
The only way I know how to do it is to use a multi-meter to check for
120 volts (on a 240 system) against neutral and ground.

Ommmmmmmmm....
It is a digital volt meter that plugs into the receptacle. And will
also tell polarity, and most likely if you have a ground.

Polarity?

Yup, polarity. Is the Hot lead on the correct receptacle terminal. Is
the Neutral on the correct terminal. And do you have a ground wire
attached.
That's not just any run of the mill DVM.


The meter I saw at Camping World yesterday was digital and it measured
voltage and frequency and checked polarity. It also had an audible alarm
if voltage or frequency went out of range or if polarity was wrong. It
plugs into a 110 15A jack. Plug into a power post and learn if it is
safe to plug in your camper. Then put the tester in an outlet inside the
camper to continuously monitor the power.


I still have some reading to do, but why only 15A if the trailer is a
30A?
--

John H

It's not an ammeter. It doesn't care if you have 30 A service or 50A
service. If you want to measure amps you need a different tester. The
killowatt can function as an ammeter but only to 15A. It might work with
a high efficiency AC like your camper probably has, but you would need a
second adapter to convert a 15A to a 30A plug and plug your shore cord
into it. If it was to work to test your AC, you would need to turn off
all other AC loads.

Didn't you say that you were having AC problems last year when you
plugged in at your garage?


Yes, but since I replaced the circuit breaker I've not had that
problem either.;
--

John H

Calif Bill[_2_] June 23rd 09 10:40 PM

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"Zombie of Woodstock" wrote in message
...
On Mon, 22 Jun 2009 18:35:56 -0700, "Calif Bill"
wrote:


"Yogi of Woodstock" wrote in message
. ..
On Mon, 22 Jun 2009 07:09:51 -0400, John H
wrote:

Had our little rig out this past weekend, down to Williamsburg, VA,
where the temp climbed into the 90s on Saturday. Last time we were in
that kind of heat the air conditioner kept popping the circuit
breaker.

This time the AC worked well. Don't know if the problem was the
circuit breaker or not, but at least we kept cool this time.

We stayed at the American Heritage RV park, which is a nice place to
stay if you're ever in that neck of the woods.

Tom or Dick, if either of you happen to read this, last year one of
you suggested an instrument for testing the current at camp sites. I
didn't get it then, but want it now. Could you remind me again what it
was, please?

The only way I know how to do it is to use a multi-meter to check for
120 volts (on a 240 system) against neutral and ground.

Ommmmmmmmm....


It is a digital volt meter that plugs into the receptacle. And will also
tell polarity, and most likely if you have a ground.


Well, where the hell were you all day with this information? :)


Working on the camper. Moving the electrical shutoff switch.



Calif Bill[_2_] June 23rd 09 10:42 PM

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"Don White" wrote in message
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"D.Duck" wrote in message
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"Zombie of Woodstock" wrote in message
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On Mon, 22 Jun 2009 18:35:56 -0700, "Calif Bill"
wrote:


"Yogi of Woodstock" wrote in message
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On Mon, 22 Jun 2009 07:09:51 -0400, John H
wrote:

Had our little rig out this past weekend, down to Williamsburg, VA,
where the temp climbed into the 90s on Saturday. Last time we were in
that kind of heat the air conditioner kept popping the circuit
breaker.

This time the AC worked well. Don't know if the problem was the
circuit breaker or not, but at least we kept cool this time.

We stayed at the American Heritage RV park, which is a nice place to
stay if you're ever in that neck of the woods.

Tom or Dick, if either of you happen to read this, last year one of
you suggested an instrument for testing the current at camp sites. I
didn't get it then, but want it now. Could you remind me again what it
was, please?

The only way I know how to do it is to use a multi-meter to check for
120 volts (on a 240 system) against neutral and ground.

Ommmmmmmmm....

It is a digital volt meter that plugs into the receptacle. And will
also
tell polarity, and most likely if you have a ground.

Well, where the hell were you all day with this information? :)


West Coast time zone, they don't get up till we go to bed. But they'll
be leaving us soon.


I feel bad now....all this time we've been accusing Kalif Bill of swilling
liquor when he's only been sleeping while posting here.
I guess we just have to talk a bit louder to wake him up.


If you had paid attention in school instead of all the beer drinking, you
might not have had to work for an employer you hated for 40 years.



Calif Bill[_2_] June 23rd 09 10:44 PM

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"John H" wrote in message
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On Tue, 23 Jun 2009 06:44:46 -0400, Jim24242
wrote:

D.Duck wrote:
"Calif Bill" wrote in message
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"D.Duck" wrote in message
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"Calif Bill" wrote in message
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"Yogi of Woodstock" wrote in message
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On Mon, 22 Jun 2009 07:09:51 -0400, John H
wrote:

Had our little rig out this past weekend, down to Williamsburg, VA,
where the temp climbed into the 90s on Saturday. Last time we were
in
that kind of heat the air conditioner kept popping the circuit
breaker.

This time the AC worked well. Don't know if the problem was the
circuit breaker or not, but at least we kept cool this time.

We stayed at the American Heritage RV park, which is a nice place
to
stay if you're ever in that neck of the woods.

Tom or Dick, if either of you happen to read this, last year one of
you suggested an instrument for testing the current at camp sites.
I
didn't get it then, but want it now. Could you remind me again what
it
was, please?
The only way I know how to do it is to use a multi-meter to check
for
120 volts (on a 240 system) against neutral and ground.

Ommmmmmmmm....
It is a digital volt meter that plugs into the receptacle. And will
also tell polarity, and most likely if you have a ground.


Polarity?

Yup, polarity. Is the Hot lead on the correct receptacle terminal.
Is
the Neutral on the correct terminal. And do you have a ground wire
attached.

That's not just any run of the mill DVM.


The meter I saw at Camping World yesterday was digital and it measured
voltage and frequency and checked polarity. It also had an audible alarm
if voltage or frequency went out of range or if polarity was wrong. It
plugs into a 110 15A jack. Plug into a power post and learn if it is
safe to plug in your camper. Then put the tester in an outlet inside the
camper to continuously monitor the power.


I still have some reading to do, but why only 15A if the trailer is a
30A?
--

John H


Because there is a bigger market for NEMA 15 amp receptacle plugs than for
30 amp. And I have an adapter plug for 30 to 15. Can buy it at Walmart.
Then I can plug my camper in at home to cool down the fridge and charge the
battery.



HK June 23rd 09 10:49 PM

Travel trailer air conditioner
 
Calif Bill wrote:
"Don White" wrote in message
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"D.Duck" wrote in message
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"Zombie of Woodstock" wrote in message
...
On Mon, 22 Jun 2009 18:35:56 -0700, "Calif Bill"
wrote:

"Yogi of Woodstock" wrote in message
...
On Mon, 22 Jun 2009 07:09:51 -0400, John H
wrote:

Had our little rig out this past weekend, down to Williamsburg, VA,
where the temp climbed into the 90s on Saturday. Last time we were in
that kind of heat the air conditioner kept popping the circuit
breaker.

This time the AC worked well. Don't know if the problem was the
circuit breaker or not, but at least we kept cool this time.

We stayed at the American Heritage RV park, which is a nice place to
stay if you're ever in that neck of the woods.

Tom or Dick, if either of you happen to read this, last year one of
you suggested an instrument for testing the current at camp sites. I
didn't get it then, but want it now. Could you remind me again what it
was, please?
The only way I know how to do it is to use a multi-meter to check for
120 volts (on a 240 system) against neutral and ground.

Ommmmmmmmm....
It is a digital volt meter that plugs into the receptacle. And will
also
tell polarity, and most likely if you have a ground.
Well, where the hell were you all day with this information? :)
West Coast time zone, they don't get up till we go to bed. But they'll
be leaving us soon.

I feel bad now....all this time we've been accusing Kalif Bill of swilling
liquor when he's only been sleeping while posting here.
I guess we just have to talk a bit louder to wake him up.


If you had paid attention in school instead of all the beer drinking, you
might not have had to work for an employer you hated for 40 years.




Yeah, if he were an "illegal," he could have been working for you at
lower than standard wages, without fringe bennies, and been otherwise
exploited. What a thrill.

Don White June 24th 09 12:20 AM

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"John H" wrote in message
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On Tue, 23 Jun 2009 09:00:23 -0300, "Don White"
wrote:


"D.Duck" wrote in message
om...

"Zombie of Woodstock" wrote in message
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On Mon, 22 Jun 2009 18:35:56 -0700, "Calif Bill"
wrote:


"Yogi of Woodstock" wrote in message
om...
On Mon, 22 Jun 2009 07:09:51 -0400, John H
wrote:

Had our little rig out this past weekend, down to Williamsburg, VA,
where the temp climbed into the 90s on Saturday. Last time we were in
that kind of heat the air conditioner kept popping the circuit
breaker.

This time the AC worked well. Don't know if the problem was the
circuit breaker or not, but at least we kept cool this time.

We stayed at the American Heritage RV park, which is a nice place to
stay if you're ever in that neck of the woods.

Tom or Dick, if either of you happen to read this, last year one of
you suggested an instrument for testing the current at camp sites. I
didn't get it then, but want it now. Could you remind me again what
it
was, please?

The only way I know how to do it is to use a multi-meter to check for
120 volts (on a 240 system) against neutral and ground.

Ommmmmmmmm....

It is a digital volt meter that plugs into the receptacle. And will
also
tell polarity, and most likely if you have a ground.

Well, where the hell were you all day with this information? :)

West Coast time zone, they don't get up till we go to bed. But they'll
be
leaving us soon.


I feel bad now....all this time we've been accusing Kalif Bill of swilling
liquor when he's only been sleeping while posting here.
I guess we just have to talk a bit louder to wake him up.


You might, Donnie, try shutting the f**k up and learning something.
--

John H


Learn something from you???
You couldn't teach those school kids basic math!



Don White June 24th 09 12:23 AM

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"Calif Bill" wrote in message
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"Don White" wrote in message
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"D.Duck" wrote in message
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"Zombie of Woodstock" wrote in message
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On Mon, 22 Jun 2009 18:35:56 -0700, "Calif Bill"
wrote:


"Yogi of Woodstock" wrote in message
om...
On Mon, 22 Jun 2009 07:09:51 -0400, John H
wrote:

Had our little rig out this past weekend, down to Williamsburg, VA,
where the temp climbed into the 90s on Saturday. Last time we were in
that kind of heat the air conditioner kept popping the circuit
breaker.

This time the AC worked well. Don't know if the problem was the
circuit breaker or not, but at least we kept cool this time.

We stayed at the American Heritage RV park, which is a nice place to
stay if you're ever in that neck of the woods.

Tom or Dick, if either of you happen to read this, last year one of
you suggested an instrument for testing the current at camp sites. I
didn't get it then, but want it now. Could you remind me again what
it
was, please?

The only way I know how to do it is to use a multi-meter to check for
120 volts (on a 240 system) against neutral and ground.

Ommmmmmmmm....

It is a digital volt meter that plugs into the receptacle. And will
also
tell polarity, and most likely if you have a ground.

Well, where the hell were you all day with this information? :)

West Coast time zone, they don't get up till we go to bed. But they'll
be leaving us soon.


I feel bad now....all this time we've been accusing Kalif Bill of
swilling liquor when he's only been sleeping while posting here.
I guess we just have to talk a bit louder to wake him up.


If you had paid attention in school instead of all the beer drinking, you
might not have had to work for an employer you hated for 40 years.


Hee hee..42 years??? I'm going back to the 'Corp' to get my pension
adjusted upward. They insist I only served 32 years.
Anyway the first dozen or so years were fine...before the financial crunch
kicked in.



HK June 24th 09 12:34 AM

Travel trailer air conditioner
 
Don White wrote:
"John H" wrote in message
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On Tue, 23 Jun 2009 09:00:23 -0300, "Don White"
wrote:

"D.Duck" wrote in message
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On Mon, 22 Jun 2009 18:35:56 -0700, "Calif Bill"
wrote:

"Yogi of Woodstock" wrote in message
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On Mon, 22 Jun 2009 07:09:51 -0400, John H
wrote:

Had our little rig out this past weekend, down to Williamsburg, VA,
where the temp climbed into the 90s on Saturday. Last time we were in
that kind of heat the air conditioner kept popping the circuit
breaker.

This time the AC worked well. Don't know if the problem was the
circuit breaker or not, but at least we kept cool this time.

We stayed at the American Heritage RV park, which is a nice place to
stay if you're ever in that neck of the woods.

Tom or Dick, if either of you happen to read this, last year one of
you suggested an instrument for testing the current at camp sites. I
didn't get it then, but want it now. Could you remind me again what
it
was, please?
The only way I know how to do it is to use a multi-meter to check for
120 volts (on a 240 system) against neutral and ground.

Ommmmmmmmm....
It is a digital volt meter that plugs into the receptacle. And will
also
tell polarity, and most likely if you have a ground.
Well, where the hell were you all day with this information? :)
West Coast time zone, they don't get up till we go to bed. But they'll
be
leaving us soon.
I feel bad now....all this time we've been accusing Kalif Bill of swilling
liquor when he's only been sleeping while posting here.
I guess we just have to talk a bit louder to wake him up.

You might, Donnie, try shutting the f**k up and learning something.
--

John H


Learn something from you???
You couldn't teach those school kids basic math!




Well, you know...they were kids of color...and herring has no use for that.

John H[_2_] June 24th 09 01:17 AM

Travel trailer air conditioner
 
On Tue, 23 Jun 2009 14:44:46 -0700, "Calif Bill"
wrote:


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On Tue, 23 Jun 2009 06:44:46 -0400, Jim24242
wrote:

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On Mon, 22 Jun 2009 07:09:51 -0400, John H
wrote:

Had our little rig out this past weekend, down to Williamsburg, VA,
where the temp climbed into the 90s on Saturday. Last time we were
in
that kind of heat the air conditioner kept popping the circuit
breaker.

This time the AC worked well. Don't know if the problem was the
circuit breaker or not, but at least we kept cool this time.

We stayed at the American Heritage RV park, which is a nice place
to
stay if you're ever in that neck of the woods.

Tom or Dick, if either of you happen to read this, last year one of
you suggested an instrument for testing the current at camp sites.
I
didn't get it then, but want it now. Could you remind me again what
it
was, please?
The only way I know how to do it is to use a multi-meter to check
for
120 volts (on a 240 system) against neutral and ground.

Ommmmmmmmm....
It is a digital volt meter that plugs into the receptacle. And will
also tell polarity, and most likely if you have a ground.


Polarity?

Yup, polarity. Is the Hot lead on the correct receptacle terminal.
Is
the Neutral on the correct terminal. And do you have a ground wire
attached.

That's not just any run of the mill DVM.


The meter I saw at Camping World yesterday was digital and it measured
voltage and frequency and checked polarity. It also had an audible alarm
if voltage or frequency went out of range or if polarity was wrong. It
plugs into a 110 15A jack. Plug into a power post and learn if it is
safe to plug in your camper. Then put the tester in an outlet inside the
camper to continuously monitor the power.


I still have some reading to do, but why only 15A if the trailer is a
30A?
--

John H


Because there is a bigger market for NEMA 15 amp receptacle plugs than for
30 amp. And I have an adapter plug for 30 to 15. Can buy it at Walmart.
Then I can plug my camper in at home to cool down the fridge and charge the
battery.


I've got one too. Do you know any more about the meter at CAmping
world, like what it was called?
--

John H

John H[_2_] June 24th 09 01:23 AM

Travel trailer air conditioner
 
On Tue, 23 Jun 2009 20:20:33 -0300, "Don White"
wrote:


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On Tue, 23 Jun 2009 09:00:23 -0300, "Don White"
wrote:


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On Mon, 22 Jun 2009 18:35:56 -0700, "Calif Bill"
wrote:


"Yogi of Woodstock" wrote in message
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On Mon, 22 Jun 2009 07:09:51 -0400, John H
wrote:

Had our little rig out this past weekend, down to Williamsburg, VA,
where the temp climbed into the 90s on Saturday. Last time we were in
that kind of heat the air conditioner kept popping the circuit
breaker.

This time the AC worked well. Don't know if the problem was the
circuit breaker or not, but at least we kept cool this time.

We stayed at the American Heritage RV park, which is a nice place to
stay if you're ever in that neck of the woods.

Tom or Dick, if either of you happen to read this, last year one of
you suggested an instrument for testing the current at camp sites. I
didn't get it then, but want it now. Could you remind me again what
it
was, please?

The only way I know how to do it is to use a multi-meter to check for
120 volts (on a 240 system) against neutral and ground.

Ommmmmmmmm....

It is a digital volt meter that plugs into the receptacle. And will
also
tell polarity, and most likely if you have a ground.

Well, where the hell were you all day with this information? :)

West Coast time zone, they don't get up till we go to bed. But they'll
be
leaving us soon.

I feel bad now....all this time we've been accusing Kalif Bill of swilling
liquor when he's only been sleeping while posting here.
I guess we just have to talk a bit louder to wake him up.


You might, Donnie, try shutting the f**k up and learning something.
--

John H


Learn something from you???
You couldn't teach those school kids basic math!


No. I asked the question. Several others are providing answers. Maybe
that's just too hard to comprehend.

When you said you were about 60, I spit coffee everywhere. I thought
you must be in your late 20's or early 30's. Of course, I'm basing
that on 'percieved maturity'.

Goodbye Donnie. For you, this is a valuable tool. Just don't spend all
day with it.

http://tinyurl.com/o42at




--

John H

Don White June 24th 09 02:29 AM

Travel trailer air conditioner
 

"John H" wrote in message
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On Tue, 23 Jun 2009 09:00:23 -0300, "Don White"
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On Mon, 22 Jun 2009 18:35:56 -0700, "Calif Bill"
wrote:


"Yogi of Woodstock" wrote in message
news:cdsu35t8u6annslmbqs00ni9a83lfte8s3@4ax .com...
On Mon, 22 Jun 2009 07:09:51 -0400, John H
wrote:

Had our little rig out this past weekend, down to Williamsburg, VA,
where the temp climbed into the 90s on Saturday. Last time we were
in
that kind of heat the air conditioner kept popping the circuit
breaker.

This time the AC worked well. Don't know if the problem was the
circuit breaker or not, but at least we kept cool this time.

We stayed at the American Heritage RV park, which is a nice place
to
stay if you're ever in that neck of the woods.

Tom or Dick, if either of you happen to read this, last year one of
you suggested an instrument for testing the current at camp sites.
I
didn't get it then, but want it now. Could you remind me again what
it
was, please?

The only way I know how to do it is to use a multi-meter to check
for
120 volts (on a 240 system) against neutral and ground.

Ommmmmmmmm....

It is a digital volt meter that plugs into the receptacle. And will
also
tell polarity, and most likely if you have a ground.

Well, where the hell were you all day with this information? :)

West Coast time zone, they don't get up till we go to bed. But
they'll
be
leaving us soon.

I feel bad now....all this time we've been accusing Kalif Bill of
swilling
liquor when he's only been sleeping while posting here.
I guess we just have to talk a bit louder to wake him up.


You might, Donnie, try shutting the f**k up and learning something.
--

John H


Learn something from you???
You couldn't teach those school kids basic math!


No. I asked the question. Several others are providing answers. Maybe
that's just too hard to comprehend.

When you said you were about 60, I spit coffee everywhere. I thought
you must be in your late 20's or early 30's. Of course, I'm basing
that on 'percieved maturity'.

Goodbye Donnie. For you, this is a valuable tool. Just don't spend all
day with it.

http://tinyurl.com/o42at




--

John H


Dip this, ****Boy!



Don White June 24th 09 02:31 AM

Travel trailer air conditioner
 

"Don White" wrote in message
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On Mon, 22 Jun 2009 18:35:56 -0700, "Calif Bill"
wrote:


"Yogi of Woodstock" wrote in message
news:cdsu35t8u6annslmbqs00ni9a83lfte8s3@4ax. com...
On Mon, 22 Jun 2009 07:09:51 -0400, John H
wrote:

Had our little rig out this past weekend, down to Williamsburg, VA,
where the temp climbed into the 90s on Saturday. Last time we were
in
that kind of heat the air conditioner kept popping the circuit
breaker.

This time the AC worked well. Don't know if the problem was the
circuit breaker or not, but at least we kept cool this time.

We stayed at the American Heritage RV park, which is a nice place to
stay if you're ever in that neck of the woods.

Tom or Dick, if either of you happen to read this, last year one of
you suggested an instrument for testing the current at camp sites. I
didn't get it then, but want it now. Could you remind me again what
it
was, please?

The only way I know how to do it is to use a multi-meter to check
for
120 volts (on a 240 system) against neutral and ground.

Ommmmmmmmm....

It is a digital volt meter that plugs into the receptacle. And will
also
tell polarity, and most likely if you have a ground.

Well, where the hell were you all day with this information? :)

West Coast time zone, they don't get up till we go to bed. But they'll
be leaving us soon.

I feel bad now....all this time we've been accusing Kalif Bill of
swilling liquor when he's only been sleeping while posting here.
I guess we just have to talk a bit louder to wake him up.


If you had paid attention in school instead of all the beer drinking, you
might not have had to work for an employer you hated for 40 years.


Hee hee..*42* years??? I'm going back to the 'Corp' to get my pension
adjusted upward. They insist I only served 32 years.
Anyway the first dozen or so years were fine...before the financial crunch
kicked in.


Lordy! better make that *40* years. I'm getting as bad as Kalif Bill. Is
this what happens when you approach 60 years of age?




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