On Jun 9, 7:24*pm, Johnson wrote:
Eisboch wrote:

Something I found out about commercial rated versus residential types.

A few years back I bought a Scag commercial mower. *The difference is
the blade tip speed.
Residential type mowers are restricted by federal regulations to some
maximum tip speed at full throttle.

Commercial types are not, and the tip speed of the blade is typically
much higher. *Makes for better cuts and smaller mulch.

Eisboch

Just curious where you heard this.

I checked today with with my lawn mower repair shop, a place with some
old grease monkeys who've been around awhile. They said it's not true.
Said it was an internet rumor.

Johnson

Harry's mower is special, he has special permission to own a machine
that is not constrained by silly safety rules every one else needs to
deal with... It was built for him personally by NASA with the
oversight of the Husky Corp top R+D guy himself... They gave it to him
free, because he is such a great guy... Just ask him

wrote:
On Jun 9, 7:24 pm, Johnson wrote:
Eisboch wrote:

Something I found out about commercial rated versus residential types.
A few years back I bought a Scag commercial mower. The difference is
the blade tip speed.
Residential type mowers are restricted by federal regulations to some
maximum tip speed at full throttle.
Commercial types are not, and the tip speed of the blade is typically
much higher. Makes for better cuts and smaller mulch.
Eisboch
Just curious where you heard this.

I checked today with with my lawn mower repair shop, a place with some
old grease monkeys who've been around awhile. They said it's not true.
Said it was an internet rumor.

Johnson

Harry's mower is special, he has special permission to own a machine
that is not constrained by silly safety rules every one else needs to
deal with... It was built for him personally by NASA with the
oversight of the Husky Corp top R+D guy himself... They gave it to him
free, because he is such a great guy... Just ask him

Ummm, I was responding to Eisboch who made a statement about commercial
mowers vs. residential mowers.

While I am inclined to agree with you that in HK's world, everything he
possesses is special, better, and more liberal than yours and mine, I
truly am interested in whether commercial mowers spin their blades
faster than residential ones.

Johnson

"Johnson" wrote in message
news

Ummm, I was responding to Eisboch who made a statement about commercial
mowers vs. residential mowers.

While I am inclined to agree with you that in HK's world, everything he
possesses is special, better, and more liberal than yours and mine, I
truly am interested in whether commercial mowers spin their blades faster
than residential ones.

Johnson

Despite your shade tree mechanics opinions, I can assure you that they do.
I have a friend who has a similar designed residential rated mower. (these
are the type
that you operate like a Bobcat. Your sit on it and drive it with two levers
that control hydraulic motors).

His doesn't come close to the Scag. You can tell just by the sound and by
how finely it chops up the clippings. Plus, I can go through foot high
grass and the mower doesn't miss a beat. His would stall.

Eisboch

Eisboch wrote:

"Johnson" wrote in message
news

Ummm, I was responding to Eisboch who made a statement about
commercial mowers vs. residential mowers.

While I am inclined to agree with you that in HK's world, everything
he possesses is special, better, and more liberal than yours and mine,
I truly am interested in whether commercial mowers spin their blades
faster than residential ones.

Johnson

Despite your shade tree mechanics opinions, I can assure you that they do.
I have a friend who has a similar designed residential rated mower.
(these are the type
that you operate like a Bobcat. Your sit on it and drive it with two
levers that control hydraulic motors).

His doesn't come close to the Scag. You can tell just by the sound and
by how finely it chops up the clippings. Plus, I can go through foot
high grass and the mower doesn't miss a beat. His would stall.

Eisboch


You're conversing with a sock puppet.


--
The modern GOP is little more than an army of moral absolutists led by a
gang of moral nihilists.

HK wrote:


You're conversing with a sock puppet.



Hey, it's got to be better than conversing with an empty suit.

Johnson

Eisboch wrote:

"Johnson" wrote in message
news

Ummm, I was responding to Eisboch who made a statement about
commercial mowers vs. residential mowers.

While I am inclined to agree with you that in HK's world, everything
he possesses is special, better, and more liberal than yours and mine,
I truly am interested in whether commercial mowers spin their blades
faster than residential ones.

Johnson

Despite your shade tree mechanics opinions, I can assure you that they do.
I have a friend who has a similar designed residential rated mower.
(these are the type
that you operate like a Bobcat. Your sit on it and drive it with two
levers that control hydraulic motors).

His doesn't come close to the Scag. You can tell just by the sound and
by how finely it chops up the clippings. Plus, I can go through foot
high grass and the mower doesn't miss a beat. His would stall.

Eisboch

Thanks. This sockpuppet appreciates the advice.

In my other post I noted that it would seem that residential mowers are
not constrained to a lower blade tip speed. Perhaps the manufacturers
build the residential ones with a lower tip speed.

Also, my sense is that the commercial mowers are probably designed to
cut better, and they do run near the maximum allowed tip speed.

Johnson

On Jun 9, 7:00*pm, "Eisboch" wrote:
"Johnson" wrote in message

news


Ummm, I was responding to Eisboch who made a statement about commercial
mowers vs. residential mowers.

While I am inclined to agree with you that in HK's world, everything he
possesses is special, better, and more liberal than yours and mine, I
truly am interested in whether commercial mowers spin their blades faster
than residential ones.

Johnson

Despite your shade tree mechanics opinions, I can assure you that they do..
I have a friend who has a similar designed residential rated mower. *(these
are the type
that you operate like a Bobcat. *Your sit on it and drive it with two levers
that control hydraulic motors).

His doesn't come close to the Scag. *You can tell just by the sound and by
how finely it chops up the clippings. *Plus, I can go through foot high
grass and the mower doesn't miss a beat. * His would stall.

Eisboch

My nephew mows a lot of yards and cemetery's he has a big X-mark with
I think a 28 hp v-2 Kawasaki. It's a yard chopping speedster.

I have a'47 8-N ford with a PTO driven Woods RM-59 mower, Even though
my folks aren't living, i still keep the property (about 4 acres)
mowed. it got away from me this year because of all the rain, so my
brother brought down his John Deere 4020 with a bush hog and knocked
it down first. Then I was able to take care of it with the 8-N/Woods.

Poor 8-N's. the PTO drive is a joke and It won't take down foot
tall without bogging and squalling the belt, but once down. Even
though my nephews Xmark will blow right by it, the 8-N/Woods mows
well for maintenance.

On Jun 9, 10:14*pm, Tim wrote:
On Jun 9, 7:00*pm, "Eisboch" wrote:





"Johnson" wrote in message

news

Ummm, I was responding to Eisboch who made a statement about commercial
mowers vs. residential mowers.

While I am inclined to agree with you that in HK's world, everything he
possesses is special, better, and more liberal than yours and mine, I
truly am interested in whether commercial mowers spin their blades faster
than residential ones.

Johnson

Despite your shade tree mechanics opinions, I can assure you that they do.
I have a friend who has a similar designed residential rated mower. *(these
are the type
that you operate like a Bobcat. *Your sit on it and drive it with two levers
that control hydraulic motors).

His doesn't come close to the Scag. *You can tell just by the sound and by
how finely it chops up the clippings. *Plus, I can go through foot high
grass and the mower doesn't miss a beat. * His would stall.

Eisboch

My nephew mows a lot of yards and cemetery's he has a big X-mark with
I think a 28 hp v-2 Kawasaki. It's a yard chopping speedster.

I have a'47 8-N ford with a PTO driven Woods RM-59 *mower, Even though
my folks aren't living, i still keep the property (about 4 acres)
mowed. it got away from me this year because of all the rain, so my
brother brought down his John Deere 4020 with a bush hog and knocked
it down first. Then I was able to take care of it with the 8-N/Woods.

Poor 8-N's. * * the PTO drive is a joke and It won't take down foot
tall without bogging and squalling the belt, but once down. Even
though my nephews Xmark will blow right by it, the 8-N/Woods *mows
well for *maintenance.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

I LOVE my Ford 8n! If the belt is squalling that's nothing to do with
the PTO.

On Jun 10, 7:33*am, wrote:
On Jun 9, 10:14*pm, Tim wrote:



On Jun 9, 7:00*pm, "Eisboch" wrote:

"Johnson" wrote in message

news

Ummm, I was responding to Eisboch who made a statement about commercial
mowers vs. residential mowers.

While I am inclined to agree with you that in HK's world, everything he
possesses is special, better, and more liberal than yours and mine, I
truly am interested in whether commercial mowers spin their blades faster
than residential ones.

Johnson

Despite your shade tree mechanics opinions, I can assure you that they do.
I have a friend who has a similar designed residential rated mower. *(these
are the type
that you operate like a Bobcat. *Your sit on it and drive it with two levers
that control hydraulic motors).

His doesn't come close to the Scag. *You can tell just by the sound and by
how finely it chops up the clippings. *Plus, I can go through foot high
grass and the mower doesn't miss a beat. * His would stall.

Eisboch

My nephew mows a lot of yards and cemetery's he has a big X-mark with
I think a 28 hp v-2 Kawasaki. It's a yard chopping speedster.

I have a'47 8-N ford with a PTO driven Woods RM-59 *mower, Even though
my folks aren't living, i still keep the property (about 4 acres)
mowed. it got away from me this year because of all the rain, so my
brother brought down his John Deere 4020 with a bush hog and knocked
it down first. Then I was able to take care of it with the 8-N/Woods.

Poor 8-N's. * * the PTO drive is a joke and It won't take down foot
tall without bogging and squalling the belt, but once down. Even
though my nephews Xmark will blow right by it, the 8-N/Woods *mows
well for *maintenance.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

I LOVE my Ford 8n! If the belt is squalling that's nothing to do with
the PTO.

No, The belt I'm talking about is on the Woods Mower itself, not the
water pump.

The mower has a HUGE belt that wraps around a large drive wheel for
the blades. Here's an example, Loog. Actually I think it's kind of a
silly design, but hey. You run what you brung....

http://media.photobucket.com/image/w...a/P1070138.jpg

On Wed, 10 Jun 2009 18:27:07 -0700 (PDT), Tim
wrote:

No, The belt I'm talking about is on the Woods Mower itself, not the
water pump.

The mower has a HUGE belt that wraps around a large drive wheel for
the blades. Here's an example, Loog. Actually I think it's kind of a
silly design, but hey. You run what you brung....

I have seen two 8-N with mowers. Five foot long single blade with a 90
degree gearbox and a shaft to the tractor. Hit a car axle with one. It
was a disused horseshoe stake in tall grass. Broke something cheap in
the gearbox. Maybe a shear pin. Nick like half a nickel in the blade.
BMB 'Brute' it was called.

Casady