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Sales of expensive x-ray instruments is not going well in this economy
so I am starting a new business, Mobile Marine Plating, Inc. will specialize in re-plating small marine parts with anti-corrosive and decorative metal plating while the parts are in place via "brush plating". This means we will go to a boat and coat corroded parts with electroplated nickel or bronze or even gold. Larger numbers of parts can be brought back to the lab for polishing en masse and re- coating. My specialty is nickel plating but one of the most interesting ones is an electroless nickel coating that has hexagonal boron nitride in it to give ti lubricating properties along with the anti-corrosion properties. Think about steel or Aluminum parts that are subject to wear and corrosion where a coating about .00020" thick would be helpful. I am getting tired of hanging out with scientists anyway and want to hang out in marinas. Will probably start off coating local parts but will branch out into offshore oil stuff. |
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Frogwatch wrote:
Sales of expensive x-ray instruments is not going well in this economy so I am starting a new business, Mobile Marine Plating, Inc. will specialize in re-plating small marine parts with anti-corrosive and decorative metal plating while the parts are in place via "brush plating". This means we will go to a boat and coat corroded parts with electroplated nickel or bronze or even gold. Larger numbers of parts can be brought back to the lab for polishing en masse and re- coating. My specialty is nickel plating but one of the most interesting ones is an electroless nickel coating that has hexagonal boron nitride in it to give ti lubricating properties along with the anti-corrosion properties. Think about steel or Aluminum parts that are subject to wear and corrosion where a coating about .00020" thick would be helpful. I am getting tired of hanging out with scientists anyway and want to hang out in marinas. Will probably start off coating local parts but will branch out into offshore oil stuff. Well...all but one piece of "hardware" I've had on every boat I've owned for the past 20 years has been stainless steel, and it always cleaned up nicely. I presume you wirebrush off existing corrosion on hardware you want to spiff up...what do you do about pits? BTW, there are lots of quality gold-toned fishing reels from Shimano and others where the plating has worn off. They look like this: http://fish.shimano.com/publish/cont...itcasting.html The reels are still perfectly serviceable, but could use dressing up. There must be a ka-zillion quality reels that could benefit from a recoating. Doubt you could do it on site, though. |
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HK wrote:
Frogwatch wrote: Sales of expensive x-ray instruments is not going well in this economy so I am starting a new business, Mobile Marine Plating, Inc. will specialize in re-plating small marine parts with anti-corrosive and decorative metal plating while the parts are in place via "brush plating". This means we will go to a boat and coat corroded parts with electroplated nickel or bronze or even gold. Larger numbers of parts can be brought back to the lab for polishing en masse and re- coating. My specialty is nickel plating but one of the most interesting ones is an electroless nickel coating that has hexagonal boron nitride in it to give ti lubricating properties along with the anti-corrosion properties. Think about steel or Aluminum parts that are subject to wear and corrosion where a coating about .00020" thick would be helpful. I am getting tired of hanging out with scientists anyway and want to hang out in marinas. Will probably start off coating local parts but will branch out into offshore oil stuff. Well...all but one piece of "hardware" I've had on every boat I've owned for the past 20 years has been stainless steel, and it always cleaned up nicely. I presume you wirebrush off existing corrosion on hardware you want to spiff up...what do you do about pits? BTW, there are lots of quality gold-toned fishing reels from Shimano and others where the plating has worn off. They look like this: http://fish.shimano.com/publish/cont...itcasting.html The reels are still perfectly serviceable, but could use dressing up. There must be a ka-zillion quality reels that could benefit from a recoating. Doubt you could do it on site, though. What do you mean by "on site", and why would anyone want to? |
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On Thu, 4 Jun 2009 13:37:13 -0700 (PDT), Frogwatch
wrote: Sales of expensive x-ray instruments is not going well in this economy so I am starting a new business, Mobile Marine Plating, Inc. will specialize in re-plating small marine parts with anti-corrosive and decorative metal plating while the parts are in place via "brush plating". This means we will go to a boat and coat corroded parts with electroplated nickel or bronze or even gold. Larger numbers of parts can be brought back to the lab for polishing en masse and re- coating. My specialty is nickel plating but one of the most interesting ones is an electroless nickel coating that has hexagonal boron nitride in it to give ti lubricating properties along with the anti-corrosion properties. Think about steel or Aluminum parts that are subject to wear and corrosion where a coating about .00020" thick would be helpful. I am getting tired of hanging out with scientists anyway and want to hang out in marinas. Will probably start off coating local parts but will branch out into offshore oil stuff. That's cool. Best of luck to you in your new venture. |
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On Jun 4, 5:08*pm, jps wrote:
On Thu, 4 Jun 2009 13:37:13 -0700 (PDT), Frogwatch wrote: Sales of expensive x-ray instruments is not going well in this economy so I am starting a new business, Mobile Marine Plating, Inc. *will specialize in re-plating small marine parts with anti-corrosive and decorative metal plating while the parts are in place via "brush plating". *This means we will go to a boat and coat corroded parts with electroplated nickel or bronze or even gold. *Larger numbers of parts can be brought back to the lab for polishing en masse and re- coating. My specialty is nickel plating but one of the most interesting ones is an electroless nickel coating that has hexagonal boron nitride *in *it to give ti lubricating properties along with the anti-corrosion properties. *Think about steel or Aluminum parts that are subject to wear and corrosion where a coating about .00020" thick would be helpful. I am getting tired of hanging out with scientists anyway and want to hang out in marinas. *Will probably start off coating local parts but will branch out into offshore oil stuff. That's cool. *Best of luck to you in your new venture. I try not to use a wire brush because that introduces metal from the brush into the part. Pitting can be "fixed" by brush plating into the pit and then finely lapping it to the surface contour. I would expect to see many fixtures from older boats that need re- coating. I would expect to see places where SS fasteners contact aluminum because no matter how much of the stuff you put on the fastener to prevent it, the junction always corrodes. Fishing reels would be good to do here at the lab. On-site means the part may not have to be removed from an engine or other location to be plated. Brush plating is literally plating with a tiny paint brush like thing so you can plate tiny areas. You dip the brush into the plating solution and then rub it against the metal part where you want the plating done. Larger areas can be done by forming a dam around the area with silicon putty. |
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On Jun 4, 5:08*pm, jps wrote:
On Thu, 4 Jun 2009 13:37:13 -0700 (PDT), Frogwatch wrote: Sales of expensive x-ray instruments is not going well in this economy so I am starting a new business, Mobile Marine Plating, Inc. *will specialize in re-plating small marine parts with anti-corrosive and decorative metal plating while the parts are in place via "brush plating". *This means we will go to a boat and coat corroded parts with electroplated nickel or bronze or even gold. *Larger numbers of parts can be brought back to the lab for polishing en masse and re- coating. My specialty is nickel plating but one of the most interesting ones is an electroless nickel coating that has hexagonal boron nitride *in *it to give ti lubricating properties along with the anti-corrosion properties. *Think about steel or Aluminum parts that are subject to wear and corrosion where a coating about .00020" thick would be helpful. I am getting tired of hanging out with scientists anyway and want to hang out in marinas. *Will probably start off coating local parts but will branch out into offshore oil stuff. That's cool. *Best of luck to you in your new venture. That coating on the Shimano reels looks like Titanium nitride Harry. I can get that done by electron beam evaporation. |
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On Jun 4, 5:29*pm, Frogwatch wrote:
On Jun 4, 5:08*pm, jps wrote: On Thu, 4 Jun 2009 13:37:13 -0700 (PDT), Frogwatch wrote: Sales of expensive x-ray instruments is not going well in this economy so I am starting a new business, Mobile Marine Plating, Inc. *will specialize in re-plating small marine parts with anti-corrosive and decorative metal plating while the parts are in place via "brush plating". *This means we will go to a boat and coat corroded parts with electroplated nickel or bronze or even gold. *Larger numbers of parts can be brought back to the lab for polishing en masse and re- coating. My specialty is nickel plating but one of the most interesting ones is an electroless nickel coating that has hexagonal boron nitride *in *it to give ti lubricating properties along with the anti-corrosion properties. *Think about steel or Aluminum parts that are subject to wear and corrosion where a coating about .00020" thick would be helpful. I am getting tired of hanging out with scientists anyway and want to hang out in marinas. *Will probably start off coating local parts but will branch out into offshore oil stuff. That's cool. *Best of luck to you in your new venture. That coating on the Shimano reels looks like Titanium nitride Harry. I can get that done by electron beam evaporation. Am amazed I didn't think of doing this several years ago. No more employees, YES. No more workers comp, no more company pension to to spend MY money contributing to. No more product reps in F*&k*&g India calling me at weird times. No more incompetents in Abu Dhabi asking me to go fix their spectrometer (like F*&k*&ing Hell). No more supporting sales people. No more IRS hassling me about why this guy is an independent contractor or employee. FREE AT LAST, FREE AT LAST, Thank God ALMIGHTY, I'll be Free At last" without employees. |
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On Jun 4, 6:19*pm, Frogwatch wrote:
On Jun 4, 5:29*pm, Frogwatch wrote: On Jun 4, 5:08*pm, jps wrote: On Thu, 4 Jun 2009 13:37:13 -0700 (PDT), Frogwatch wrote: Sales of expensive x-ray instruments is not going well in this economy so I am starting a new business, Mobile Marine Plating, Inc. *will specialize in re-plating small marine parts with anti-corrosive and decorative metal plating while the parts are in place via "brush plating". *This means we will go to a boat and coat corroded parts with electroplated nickel or bronze or even gold. *Larger numbers of parts can be brought back to the lab for polishing en masse and re- coating. My specialty is nickel plating but one of the most interesting ones is an electroless nickel coating that has hexagonal boron nitride *in *it to give ti lubricating properties along with the anti-corrosion properties. *Think about steel or Aluminum parts that are subject to wear and corrosion where a coating about .00020" thick would be helpful. I am getting tired of hanging out with scientists anyway and want to hang out in marinas. *Will probably start off coating local parts but will branch out into offshore oil stuff. That's cool. *Best of luck to you in your new venture. That coating on the Shimano reels looks like Titanium nitride Harry. I can get that done by electron beam evaporation. Am amazed I didn't think of doing this several years ago. *No more employees, YES. *No more workers comp, no more company pension to to spend MY money contributing to. *No more product reps in F*&k*&g India calling me at weird times. *No more incompetents in Abu Dhabi asking me to go fix their spectrometer (like F*&k*&ing Hell). *No more supporting sales people. *No more IRS hassling me about why this guy is an independent contractor or employee. *FREE AT LAST, FREE AT LAST, Thank God ALMIGHTY, I'll be Free At last" without employees. My major worries are that: !. I am terrible dealing with people and this will involve some of that nastiness. 2. I have no idea how to set price. 3 Will I get bored? |
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Frogwatch wrote:
On Jun 4, 6:19 pm, Frogwatch wrote: On Jun 4, 5:29 pm, Frogwatch wrote: On Jun 4, 5:08 pm, jps wrote: On Thu, 4 Jun 2009 13:37:13 -0700 (PDT), Frogwatch wrote: Sales of expensive x-ray instruments is not going well in this economy so I am starting a new business, Mobile Marine Plating, Inc. will specialize in re-plating small marine parts with anti-corrosive and decorative metal plating while the parts are in place via "brush plating". This means we will go to a boat and coat corroded parts with electroplated nickel or bronze or even gold. Larger numbers of parts can be brought back to the lab for polishing en masse and re- coating. My specialty is nickel plating but one of the most interesting ones is an electroless nickel coating that has hexagonal boron nitride in it to give ti lubricating properties along with the anti-corrosion properties. Think about steel or Aluminum parts that are subject to wear and corrosion where a coating about .00020" thick would be helpful. I am getting tired of hanging out with scientists anyway and want to hang out in marinas. Will probably start off coating local parts but will branch out into offshore oil stuff. That's cool. Best of luck to you in your new venture. That coating on the Shimano reels looks like Titanium nitride Harry. I can get that done by electron beam evaporation. Am amazed I didn't think of doing this several years ago. No more employees, YES. No more workers comp, no more company pension to to spend MY money contributing to. No more product reps in F*&k*&g India calling me at weird times. No more incompetents in Abu Dhabi asking me to go fix their spectrometer (like F*&k*&ing Hell). No more supporting sales people. No more IRS hassling me about why this guy is an independent contractor or employee. FREE AT LAST, FREE AT LAST, Thank God ALMIGHTY, I'll be Free At last" without employees. My major worries are that: !. I am terrible dealing with people and this will involve some of that nastiness. 2. I have no idea how to set price. 3 Will I get bored? Setting the price? Call others who do it, and find out what they charge. My Shimano "gold reels" are small - the 200 series - and only one needs to be refinished at the moment. I don't recall what I paid for it when new, maybe $150? It works fine, has a small dent in the case, but isn't as "purty" as it used to be. I'd pay at least $25 plus shipping if the coating were durable. |
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On Thu, 04 Jun 2009 19:22:04 -0400, HK wrote:
Setting the price? Call others who do it, and find out what they charge. My Shimano "gold reels" are small - the 200 series - and only one needs to be refinished at the moment. I don't recall what I paid for it when new, maybe $150? It works fine, has a small dent in the case, but isn't as "purty" as it used to be. I'd pay at least $25 plus shipping if the coating were durable. Always thought battle scars give gear some character. As long as operation isn't affected. --Vic |
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On Thu, 4 Jun 2009 15:19:23 -0700 (PDT), Frogwatch
wrote: On Jun 4, 5:29*pm, Frogwatch wrote: On Jun 4, 5:08*pm, jps wrote: On Thu, 4 Jun 2009 13:37:13 -0700 (PDT), Frogwatch wrote: Sales of expensive x-ray instruments is not going well in this economy so I am starting a new business, Mobile Marine Plating, Inc. *will specialize in re-plating small marine parts with anti-corrosive and decorative metal plating while the parts are in place via "brush plating". *This means we will go to a boat and coat corroded parts with electroplated nickel or bronze or even gold. *Larger numbers of parts can be brought back to the lab for polishing en masse and re- coating. My specialty is nickel plating but one of the most interesting ones is an electroless nickel coating that has hexagonal boron nitride *in *it to give ti lubricating properties along with the anti-corrosion properties. *Think about steel or Aluminum parts that are subject to wear and corrosion where a coating about .00020" thick would be helpful. I am getting tired of hanging out with scientists anyway and want to hang out in marinas. *Will probably start off coating local parts but will branch out into offshore oil stuff. That's cool. *Best of luck to you in your new venture. That coating on the Shimano reels looks like Titanium nitride Harry. I can get that done by electron beam evaporation. Am amazed I didn't think of doing this several years ago. No more employees, YES. No more workers comp, no more company pension to to spend MY money contributing to. No more product reps in F*&k*&g India calling me at weird times. No more incompetents in Abu Dhabi asking me to go fix their spectrometer (like F*&k*&ing Hell). No more supporting sales people. No more IRS hassling me about why this guy is an independent contractor or employee. FREE AT LAST, FREE AT LAST, Thank God ALMIGHTY, I'll be Free At last" without employees. That sounds really great. You'll still have plenty of compliance but not as much. I sometimes pine for a job. Sole ownership sounds pretty good too. Too much invested in what I'm doing and it's going the right direction. Sure hope it pays for the kids college and retirement. Maybe that 44' Tolly I dream about... |
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On Thu, 4 Jun 2009 15:25:50 -0700 (PDT), Frogwatch
wrote: On Jun 4, 6:19*pm, Frogwatch wrote: On Jun 4, 5:29*pm, Frogwatch wrote: On Jun 4, 5:08*pm, jps wrote: On Thu, 4 Jun 2009 13:37:13 -0700 (PDT), Frogwatch wrote: Sales of expensive x-ray instruments is not going well in this economy so I am starting a new business, Mobile Marine Plating, Inc. *will specialize in re-plating small marine parts with anti-corrosive and decorative metal plating while the parts are in place via "brush plating". *This means we will go to a boat and coat corroded parts with electroplated nickel or bronze or even gold. *Larger numbers of parts can be brought back to the lab for polishing en masse and re- coating. My specialty is nickel plating but one of the most interesting ones is an electroless nickel coating that has hexagonal boron nitride *in *it to give ti lubricating properties along with the anti-corrosion properties. *Think about steel or Aluminum parts that are subject to wear and corrosion where a coating about .00020" thick would be helpful. I am getting tired of hanging out with scientists anyway and want to hang out in marinas. *Will probably start off coating local parts but will branch out into offshore oil stuff. That's cool. *Best of luck to you in your new venture. That coating on the Shimano reels looks like Titanium nitride Harry. I can get that done by electron beam evaporation. Am amazed I didn't think of doing this several years ago. *No more employees, YES. *No more workers comp, no more company pension to to spend MY money contributing to. *No more product reps in F*&k*&g India calling me at weird times. *No more incompetents in Abu Dhabi asking me to go fix their spectrometer (like F*&k*&ing Hell). *No more supporting sales people. *No more IRS hassling me about why this guy is an independent contractor or employee. *FREE AT LAST, FREE AT LAST, Thank God ALMIGHTY, I'll be Free At last" without employees. My major worries are that: !. I am terrible dealing with people and this will involve some of that nastiness. 2. I have no idea how to set price. 3 Will I get bored? Replating is a pain in the butt if you have to R&R and deliver it. And, it's expensive. I think your idea is good and people will be glad to have your expertise. Doing it in place is a hell of an advantage. |
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On Thu, 4 Jun 2009 13:37:13 -0700 (PDT), Frogwatch
wrote: Sales of expensive x-ray instruments is not going well in this economy so I am starting a new business, Mobile Marine Plating, Inc. will specialize in re-plating small marine parts with anti-corrosive and decorative metal plating while the parts are in place via "brush plating". This means we will go to a boat and coat corroded parts with electroplated nickel or bronze or even gold. Larger numbers of parts can be brought back to the lab for polishing en masse and re- coating. My specialty is nickel plating but one of the most interesting ones is an electroless nickel coating that has hexagonal boron nitride in it to give ti lubricating properties along with the anti-corrosion properties. Think about steel or Aluminum parts that are subject to wear and corrosion where a coating about .00020" thick would be helpful. I am getting tired of hanging out with scientists anyway and want to hang out in marinas. Will probably start off coating local parts but will branch out into offshore oil stuff. Very cool. Good luck and God speed. |
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"Frogwatch" wrote in message ... Sales of expensive x-ray instruments is not going well in this economy so I am starting a new business, Mobile Marine Plating, Inc. will specialize in re-plating small marine parts with anti-corrosive and decorative metal plating while the parts are in place via "brush plating". This means we will go to a boat and coat corroded parts with electroplated nickel or bronze or even gold. Larger numbers of parts can be brought back to the lab for polishing en masse and re- coating. My specialty is nickel plating but one of the most interesting ones is an electroless nickel coating that has hexagonal boron nitride in it to give ti lubricating properties along with the anti-corrosion properties. Think about steel or Aluminum parts that are subject to wear and corrosion where a coating about .00020" thick would be helpful. I am getting tired of hanging out with scientists anyway and want to hang out in marinas. Will probably start off coating local parts but will branch out into offshore oil stuff. Gold plated props? What will they think of next? Eisboch |
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"Frogwatch" wrote in message ... That coating on the Shimano reels looks like Titanium nitride Harry. I can get that done by electron beam evaporation. -------------------------------- Sputtering would be better. Nickel base for a "glue" layer, then reactive sputter the TiO2. Sputtering will give you much better adhesion and uniform 3 dimensional coverage, within reason. EB will be pretty much line of sight, plus it would be slow due to the much lower operating pressure required by the source for reactive coating. I know of a small used system ideally set up for something like this, if you are interested. Eisboch |
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On Jun 4, 7:40*pm, Vic Smith wrote:
On Thu, 04 Jun 2009 19:22:04 -0400, HK wrote: Setting the price? Call others who do it, and find out what they charge. My Shimano "gold reels" are small - the 200 series - and only one needs to be refinished at the moment. I don't recall what I paid for it when new, maybe $150? It works fine, has a small dent in the case, but isn't as "purty" as it used to be. I'd pay at least $25 plus shipping if the coating were durable. Always thought battle scars give gear some character. As long as operation isn't affected. --Vic If that's the case my motorcycle has wicked character;) Hey, I didn't fall today... |
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Eisboch wrote:
"Frogwatch" wrote in message ... That coating on the Shimano reels looks like Titanium nitride Harry. I can get that done by electron beam evaporation. -------------------------------- Sputtering would be better. Nickel base for a "glue" layer, then reactive sputter the TiO2. Sputtering will give you much better adhesion and uniform 3 dimensional coverage, within reason. EB will be pretty much line of sight, plus it would be slow due to the much lower operating pressure required by the source for reactive coating. I know of a small used system ideally set up for something like this, if you are interested. Eisboch Whooosh...that's the sound of what you just explained zooming over my head. |
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On Jun 4, 10:21*pm, HK wrote:
wrote: On Jun 4, 7:40 pm, Vic Smith wrote: On Thu, 04 Jun 2009 19:22:04 -0400, HK wrote: Setting the price? Call others who do it, and find out what they charge. My Shimano "gold reels" are small - the 200 series - and only one needs to be refinished at the moment. I don't recall what I paid for it when new, maybe $150? It works fine, has a small dent in the case, but isn't as "purty" as it used to be. I'd pay at least $25 plus shipping if the coating were durable. Always thought battle scars give gear some character. As long as operation isn't affected. --Vic If that's the case my motorcycle has wicked character;) *Hey, I didn't fall today... Sober, eh? Eisboch: Yes, I am interested in a small sputter system. Right now, to do e- beam evap costs me at least $100 just to open the chamber cuz I dont own it. I have all the parts for a large sputter system except the vac pumps and targets. I have thickness monitors, gas flow controls, chamber, RF supplies but putting it together is sorta involved and would involve employees. A smaller assembled system would be nice. Right now I could actually coat it with real gold for cheaper than TiN. I have two old electron microscope sputter systems I have modified to do weird things but they are of too low power to do anything except precioius metals with high sputter yield. Business plan is basically to start very small while living offa current patent royalties. Get more experience doing this in weird environments before looking into offshore oil market. One possibility might be to use electroless nickel to recondition diesel injector pumps to bring their bore back to spec. Electroless Ni is nice cuz it plates uniformly down into small spaces whereas electrolytic Ni has trouble getting into deep bores. My employees new business of making pistol grips is suddenly doing very well. Not only are they doing grips for the 1911 models but for the Sig Hauer (spelling) guns that is much more complicated. THEN, they just picked up a contract to make some sorta scope mount for some type of guns. So, they will do well. This utilizes the CNC mill and the rest of the shop and makes em all business owners (the poor *******s). |
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On Thu, 4 Jun 2009 19:43:04 -0700 (PDT), Frogwatch
wrote: My employees new business of making pistol grips is suddenly doing very well. Not only are they doing grips for the 1911 models but for the Sig Hauer (spelling) guns that is much more complicated. You gotta name for that company? My 1911 needs new grips - might as well give the business to somebody I sort-of have a liking for. :) |
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Wizard of Woodstock wrote:
On Thu, 4 Jun 2009 19:43:04 -0700 (PDT), Frogwatch wrote: My employees new business of making pistol grips is suddenly doing very well. Not only are they doing grips for the 1911 models but for the Sig Hauer (spelling) guns that is much more complicated. You gotta name for that company? My 1911 needs new grips - might as well give the business to somebody I sort-of have a liking for. :) If you don't like those, whatever they are, try Nill grips. My Sig X-5 came with them. Also bought a pair of black grips for "regular use." |
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On Jun 4, 10:53*pm, HK wrote:
Wizard of Woodstock wrote: On Thu, 4 Jun 2009 19:43:04 -0700 (PDT), Frogwatch wrote: My employees new business of making pistol grips is suddenly doing very well. *Not only are they doing grips for the 1911 models but for the Sig Hauer (spelling) guns that is much more complicated. You gotta name for that company? *My 1911 needs new grips - might as well give the business to somebody I sort-of have a liking for. *:) If you don't like those, whatever they are, try Nill grips. My Sig X-5 came with them. Also bought a pair of black grips for "regular use." Currently, they are committed to sell thru VZ Grips who sells all they can make. I never could have imagined there was such a market for gun grips, totally weird but I admit I know nothing about guns. Their grips are made from various types of a material similar to the G10 composite material. For those familar with it, you know how strong the stuff is.. They have one they call "Gator Back" that is seriously rough for slippery conditions. I tried gold plating one but it was not worthwhile, only looked like brass. I'd like to do gold plating into features on shotguns and other guns with decorative scrolling etc. I dont know a damn thing about guns and really dont care but clearly a lot of people do. |
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"Frogwatch" wrote in message ... Eisboch: Yes, I am interested in a small sputter system. Right now, to do e- beam evap costs me at least $100 just to open the chamber cuz I dont own it. I have all the parts for a large sputter system except the vac pumps and targets. I have thickness monitors, gas flow controls, chamber, RF supplies but putting it together is sorta involved and would involve employees. A smaller assembled system would be nice. ------------------------------------ Can't make any promises yet, but let me check into something for you. There is a small ( chamber is about 2-3 ft diameter, if I remember correctly) sputter system that a business partner funded for a start-up company doing MEMs coatings. The company didn't make it, and my partner passed away. His wife technically owns it and my son and I agreed to help her find a home for it. Last I knew it was sitting in a corner of my old company collecting dust. It's a nice system.... fully equipped. It was brand new in 2002 or 2003 and has had very little use. I believe it has S-guns in it that can be arranged for different types of substrate shapes plus both RF and DC sputter supplies. I've often thought of buying it myself and putting it in my garage but I don't have 3 phase power available easily. Is your email real? I have a couple of thoughts. If it's of interest, maybe I'll buy it (assuming the owner will accept a reasonable offer) and contribute it for a little "piece of the pie" so to speak. Eisboch |
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On Thu, 4 Jun 2009 20:27:43 -0700 (PDT), Frogwatch
wrote: Currently, they are committed to sell thru VZ Grips who sells all they can make. I never could have imagined there was such a market for gun grips, totally weird but I admit I know nothing about guns. Just bought a set and the hardware - thanks for the info. |
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On Jun 4, 10:19*pm, HK wrote:
Eisboch wrote: "Frogwatch" wrote in message .... That coating on the Shimano reels looks like Titanium nitride Harry. I can get that done by electron beam evaporation. -------------------------------- Sputtering would be better. *Nickel base for a "glue" layer, then reactive sputter the TiO2. Sputtering will give you much better adhesion and uniform 3 dimensional coverage, within reason. EB will be pretty much line of sight, plus it would be slow due to the much lower operating pressure required by the source for reactive coating. I know of a small used system ideally set up for something like this, if you are interested. Eisboch Whooosh...that's the sound of what you just explained zooming over my head.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - What? The alleged mechanical engineer doesn't understand? Unbelievable! |
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HK wrote:
Eisboch wrote: "Frogwatch" wrote in message ... That coating on the Shimano reels looks like Titanium nitride Harry. I can get that done by electron beam evaporation. -------------------------------- Sputtering would be better. Nickel base for a "glue" layer, then reactive sputter the TiO2. Sputtering will give you much better adhesion and uniform 3 dimensional coverage, within reason. EB will be pretty much line of sight, plus it would be slow due to the much lower operating pressure required by the source for reactive coating. I know of a small used system ideally set up for something like this, if you are interested. Eisboch Whooosh...that's the sound of what you just explained zooming over my head. Not surprised at that. Eisboch has the ability to whoosh people much more intelligent than you. |
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"jim78" wrote in message ... HK wrote: Whooosh...that's the sound of what you just explained zooming over my head. Not surprised at that. Eisboch has the ability to whoosh people much more intelligent than you. I even whoosh myself sometimes. Eisboch |
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"jim78" wrote in message ... HK wrote: Whooosh...that's the sound of what you just explained zooming over my head. Not surprised at that. Eisboch has the ability to whoosh people much more intelligent than you. I even whoosh myself sometimes. Eisboch You could publish your self whoosh moments... :) It's too bad your BFF here, floridajim, is such an ass. But, I suppose if the highlight of *my* life was being in the navy during our war against vietnam... |
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Eisboch wrote:
"jim78" wrote in message ... HK wrote: Whooosh...that's the sound of what you just explained zooming over my head. Not surprised at that. Eisboch has the ability to whoosh people much more intelligent than you. I even whoosh myself sometimes. Eisboch If you can't dazzle em with brilliance, baffle em with bull****. |
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"HK" wrote in message m... Eisboch wrote: "jim78" wrote in message ... HK wrote: Whooosh...that's the sound of what you just explained zooming over my head. Not surprised at that. Eisboch has the ability to whoosh people much more intelligent than you. I even whoosh myself sometimes. Eisboch You could publish your self whoosh moments... :) It's too bad your BFF here, floridajim, is such an ass. But, I suppose if the highlight of *my* life was being in the navy during our war against vietnam... Apparently you have yet to realize that his negative comments are addressed to a very limited group here. Maybe not even a group. Maybe just a couple. Maybe just one. Any idea why that is? Eisboch |
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On Fri, 05 Jun 2009 08:33:12 -0400, jim7 wrote:
Eisboch wrote: "jim78" wrote in message ... HK wrote: Whooosh...that's the sound of what you just explained zooming over my head. Not surprised at that. Eisboch has the ability to whoosh people much more intelligent than you. I even whoosh myself sometimes. Eisboch If you can't dazzle em with brilliance, baffle em with bull****. Hell ya... By the way, what are you going to do when you get down to just J? :) |
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Eisboch wrote:
"HK" wrote in message m... Eisboch wrote: "jim78" wrote in message ... HK wrote: Whooosh...that's the sound of what you just explained zooming over my head. Not surprised at that. Eisboch has the ability to whoosh people much more intelligent than you. I even whoosh myself sometimes. Eisboch You could publish your self whoosh moments... :) It's too bad your BFF here, floridajim, is such an ass. But, I suppose if the highlight of *my* life was being in the navy during our war against vietnam... Apparently you have yet to realize that his negative comments are addressed to a very limited group here. Maybe not even a group. Maybe just a couple. Maybe just one. Any idea why that is? Eisboch Sure. Your BFF is an asshole. |
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On Fri, 5 Jun 2009 08:14:56 -0400, "Eisboch"
wrote: I even whoosh myself sometimes. Welcome to my world. Hey, just read an interesting article in the Globe about used cars - it appears that dealers are scouring want ads for good quality used cars. Thought that was interesting with respect to you selling your Mustang. |
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Wizard of Woodstock wrote:
On Fri, 05 Jun 2009 08:33:12 -0400, jim7 wrote: Eisboch wrote: "jim78" wrote in message ... HK wrote: Whooosh...that's the sound of what you just explained zooming over my head. Not surprised at that. Eisboch has the ability to whoosh people much more intelligent than you. I even whoosh myself sometimes. Eisboch If you can't dazzle em with brilliance, baffle em with bull****. Hell ya... By the way, what are you going to do when you get down to just J? :) Clean a loaded pistol. |
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Wizard of Woodstock wrote:
On Fri, 5 Jun 2009 08:14:56 -0400, "Eisboch" wrote: I even whoosh myself sometimes. Welcome to my world. Hey, just read an interesting article in the Globe about used cars - it appears that dealers are scouring want ads for good quality used cars. Thought that was interesting with respect to you selling your Mustang. You read The Globe? And I had you pegged as a Boston Wretched-American subscriber, or whatever that rag is called these days. |
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HK wrote:
Eisboch wrote: "jim78" wrote in message ... HK wrote: Whooosh...that's the sound of what you just explained zooming over my head. Not surprised at that. Eisboch has the ability to whoosh people much more intelligent than you. I even whoosh myself sometimes. Eisboch You could publish your self whoosh moments... :) It's too bad your BFF here, floridajim, is such an ass. But, I suppose if the highlight of *my* life was being in the navy during our war against vietnam... I wouldn't consider it THE highlight of my life but it certainly was one of them. When I was in the Navy you were probably still suckling off your mother. |
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Wizard of Woodstock wrote:
On Fri, 05 Jun 2009 08:33:12 -0400, jim7 wrote: Eisboch wrote: "jim78" wrote in message ... HK wrote: Whooosh...that's the sound of what you just explained zooming over my head. Not surprised at that. Eisboch has the ability to whoosh people much more intelligent than you. I even whoosh myself sometimes. Eisboch If you can't dazzle em with brilliance, baffle em with bull****. Hell ya... By the way, what are you going to do when you get down to just J? :) I'm sure I'll think of something. |
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HK wrote:
Eisboch wrote: "HK" wrote in message m... Eisboch wrote: "jim78" wrote in message ... HK wrote: Whooosh...that's the sound of what you just explained zooming over my head. Not surprised at that. Eisboch has the ability to whoosh people much more intelligent than you. I even whoosh myself sometimes. Eisboch You could publish your self whoosh moments... :) It's too bad your BFF here, floridajim, is such an ass. But, I suppose if the highlight of *my* life was being in the navy during our war against vietnam... Apparently you have yet to realize that his negative comments are addressed to a very limited group here. Maybe not even a group. Maybe just a couple. Maybe just one. Any idea why that is? Eisboch Sure. Your BFF is an asshole. Now you're getting warm. The only thing an AH hates is a bigger AS. No more clues for you. |
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On Jun 5, 8:40*am, HK wrote:
Eisboch wrote: "HK" wrote in message om... Eisboch wrote: "jim78" wrote in message ... HK wrote: Whooosh...that's the sound of what you just explained zooming over my head. Not surprised at that. Eisboch has the ability to whoosh people much more intelligent than you. I even whoosh myself sometimes. Eisboch You could publish your self whoosh moments... *:) It's too bad your BFF here, floridajim, is such an ass. But, I suppose if the highlight of *my* life was being in the navy during our war against vietnam... Apparently you have yet to realize that his negative comments are addressed to a very limited group here. * Maybe not even a group. * Maybe just a couple. * Maybe just one. Any idea why that is? Eisboch Sure. Your BFF is an asshole.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Great! Remember everyone, if you will, the blather that Don spewed calling people girls and such because someone here used the BFF term!!!? I wonder if he'll start that blather with his lover, Harry now? |
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