On Jun 4, 7:40*pm, Vic Smith wrote:
On Thu, 04 Jun 2009 19:22:04 -0400, HK wrote:

Setting the price? Call others who do it, and find out what they charge.
My Shimano "gold reels" are small - the 200 series - and only one needs
to be refinished at the moment. I don't recall what I paid for it when
new, maybe $150? It works fine, has a small dent in the case, but isn't
as "purty" as it used to be. I'd pay at least $25 plus shipping if the
coating were durable.

Always thought battle scars give gear some character.
As long as operation isn't affected.

--Vic

If that's the case my motorcycle has wicked character Hey, I didn't
fall today...

wrote:
On Jun 4, 7:40 pm, Vic Smith wrote:
On Thu, 04 Jun 2009 19:22:04 -0400, HK wrote:

Setting the price? Call others who do it, and find out what they charge.
My Shimano "gold reels" are small - the 200 series - and only one needs
to be refinished at the moment. I don't recall what I paid for it when
new, maybe $150? It works fine, has a small dent in the case, but isn't
as "purty" as it used to be. I'd pay at least $25 plus shipping if the
coating were durable.
Always thought battle scars give gear some character.
As long as operation isn't affected.

--Vic

If that's the case my motorcycle has wicked character Hey, I didn't
fall today...

Sober, eh?

On Jun 4, 10:21*pm, HK wrote:
wrote:
On Jun 4, 7:40 pm, Vic Smith wrote:
On Thu, 04 Jun 2009 19:22:04 -0400, HK wrote:

Setting the price? Call others who do it, and find out what they charge.
My Shimano "gold reels" are small - the 200 series - and only one needs
to be refinished at the moment. I don't recall what I paid for it when
new, maybe $150? It works fine, has a small dent in the case, but isn't
as "purty" as it used to be. I'd pay at least $25 plus shipping if the
coating were durable.
Always thought battle scars give gear some character.
As long as operation isn't affected.

--Vic

If that's the case my motorcycle has wicked character *Hey, I didn't
fall today...

Sober, eh?

Eisboch:
Yes, I am interested in a small sputter system. Right now, to do e-
beam evap costs me at least $100 just to open the chamber cuz I dont
own it.
I have all the parts for a large sputter system except the vac pumps
and targets. I have thickness monitors, gas flow controls, chamber,
RF supplies but putting it together is sorta involved and would
involve employees. A smaller assembled system would be nice.
Right now I could actually coat it with real gold for cheaper than
TiN. I have two old electron microscope sputter systems I have
modified to do weird things but they are of too low power to do
anything except precioius metals with high sputter yield.

Business plan is basically to start very small while living offa
current patent royalties. Get more experience doing this in weird
environments before looking into offshore oil market.
One possibility might be to use electroless nickel to recondition
diesel injector pumps to bring their bore back to spec. Electroless
Ni is nice cuz it plates uniformly down into small spaces whereas
electrolytic Ni has trouble getting into deep bores.
My employees new business of making pistol grips is suddenly doing
very well. Not only are they doing grips for the 1911 models but for
the Sig Hauer (spelling) guns that is much more complicated. THEN,
they just picked up a contract to make some sorta scope mount for some
type of guns. So, they will do well. This utilizes the CNC mill and
the rest of the shop and makes em all business owners (the poor
*******s).

On Thu, 4 Jun 2009 19:43:04 -0700 (PDT), Frogwatch
wrote:

My employees new business of making pistol grips is suddenly doing
very well. Not only are they doing grips for the 1911 models but for
the Sig Hauer (spelling) guns that is much more complicated.

You gotta name for that company? My 1911 needs new grips - might as
well give the business to somebody I sort-of have a liking for. :)

Wizard of Woodstock wrote:
On Thu, 4 Jun 2009 19:43:04 -0700 (PDT), Frogwatch
wrote:

My employees new business of making pistol grips is suddenly doing
very well. Not only are they doing grips for the 1911 models but for
the Sig Hauer (spelling) guns that is much more complicated.

You gotta name for that company? My 1911 needs new grips - might as
well give the business to somebody I sort-of have a liking for. :)


If you don't like those, whatever they are, try Nill grips. My Sig X-5
came with them. Also bought a pair of black grips for "regular use."

On Jun 4, 10:53*pm, HK wrote:
Wizard of Woodstock wrote:
On Thu, 4 Jun 2009 19:43:04 -0700 (PDT), Frogwatch
wrote:

My employees new business of making pistol grips is suddenly doing
very well. *Not only are they doing grips for the 1911 models but for
the Sig Hauer (spelling) guns that is much more complicated.

You gotta name for that company? *My 1911 needs new grips - might as
well give the business to somebody I sort-of have a liking for. *:)

If you don't like those, whatever they are, try Nill grips. My Sig X-5
came with them. Also bought a pair of black grips for "regular use."

Currently, they are committed to sell thru VZ Grips who sells all they
can make. I never could have imagined there was such a market for gun
grips, totally weird but I admit I know nothing about guns.
Their grips are made from various types of a material similar to the
G10 composite material. For those familar with it, you know how
strong the stuff is.. They have one they call "Gator Back" that is
seriously rough for slippery conditions.
I tried gold plating one but it was not worthwhile, only looked like
brass. I'd like to do gold plating into features on shotguns and
other guns with decorative scrolling etc. I dont know a damn thing
about guns and really dont care but clearly a lot of people do.

On Thu, 4 Jun 2009 20:27:43 -0700 (PDT), Frogwatch
wrote:

Currently, they are committed to sell thru VZ Grips who sells all they
can make. I never could have imagined there was such a market for gun
grips, totally weird but I admit I know nothing about guns.

Just bought a set and the hardware - thanks for the info.

"Frogwatch" wrote in message
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Eisboch:
Yes, I am interested in a small sputter system. Right now, to do e-
beam evap costs me at least $100 just to open the chamber cuz I dont
own it.
I have all the parts for a large sputter system except the vac pumps
and targets. I have thickness monitors, gas flow controls, chamber,
RF supplies but putting it together is sorta involved and would
involve employees. A smaller assembled system would be nice.

------------------------------------

Can't make any promises yet, but let me check into something for you.
There is a small ( chamber is about 2-3 ft diameter, if I remember
correctly)
sputter system that a business partner funded for a start-up company doing
MEMs coatings.
The company didn't make it, and my partner passed away. His wife
technically owns it and my son and I agreed to help her find a home for it.
Last I knew it was sitting in a corner of my old company collecting dust.

It's a nice system.... fully equipped. It was brand new in 2002 or 2003 and
has had very little use. I believe it has S-guns in it that can be arranged
for different types of substrate shapes plus both RF and DC sputter
supplies. I've often thought of buying it myself and putting it in my
garage but I don't have 3 phase power available easily.

Is your email real? I have a couple of thoughts. If it's of interest,
maybe I'll buy it (assuming the owner will accept a reasonable offer) and
contribute it for a little "piece of the pie" so to speak.

Eisboch

"HK" wrote in message
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On Jun 4, 7:40 pm, Vic Smith wrote:
On Thu, 04 Jun 2009 19:22:04 -0400, HK wrote:

Setting the price? Call others who do it, and find out what they
charge.
My Shimano "gold reels" are small - the 200 series - and only one needs
to be refinished at the moment. I don't recall what I paid for it when
new, maybe $150? It works fine, has a small dent in the case, but isn't
as "purty" as it used to be. I'd pay at least $25 plus shipping if the
coating were durable.
Always thought battle scars give gear some character.
As long as operation isn't affected.

--Vic

If that's the case my motorcycle has wicked character Hey, I didn't
fall today...

Sober, eh?

Douchebag, eh?

--Mike