On Jun 4, 5:08*pm, jps wrote:
On Thu, 4 Jun 2009 13:37:13 -0700 (PDT), Frogwatch



wrote:
Sales of expensive x-ray instruments is not going well in this economy
so I am starting a new business, Mobile Marine Plating, Inc. *will
specialize in re-plating small marine parts with anti-corrosive and
decorative metal plating while the parts are in place via "brush
plating". *This means we will go to a boat and coat corroded parts
with electroplated nickel or bronze or even gold. *Larger numbers of
parts can be brought back to the lab for polishing en masse and re-
coating.
My specialty is nickel plating but one of the most interesting ones is
an electroless nickel coating that has hexagonal boron nitride *in *it
to give ti lubricating properties along with the anti-corrosion
properties. *Think about steel or Aluminum parts that are subject to
wear and corrosion where a coating about .00020" thick would be
helpful.
I am getting tired of hanging out with scientists anyway and want to
hang out in marinas. *Will probably start off coating local parts but
will branch out into offshore oil stuff.

That's cool. *Best of luck to you in your new venture.

That coating on the Shimano reels looks like Titanium nitride Harry.
I can get that done by electron beam evaporation.

On Jun 4, 5:29*pm, Frogwatch wrote:
On Jun 4, 5:08*pm, jps wrote:



On Thu, 4 Jun 2009 13:37:13 -0700 (PDT), Frogwatch

wrote:
Sales of expensive x-ray instruments is not going well in this economy
so I am starting a new business, Mobile Marine Plating, Inc. *will
specialize in re-plating small marine parts with anti-corrosive and
decorative metal plating while the parts are in place via "brush
plating". *This means we will go to a boat and coat corroded parts
with electroplated nickel or bronze or even gold. *Larger numbers of
parts can be brought back to the lab for polishing en masse and re-
coating.
My specialty is nickel plating but one of the most interesting ones is
an electroless nickel coating that has hexagonal boron nitride *in *it
to give ti lubricating properties along with the anti-corrosion
properties. *Think about steel or Aluminum parts that are subject to
wear and corrosion where a coating about .00020" thick would be
helpful.
I am getting tired of hanging out with scientists anyway and want to
hang out in marinas. *Will probably start off coating local parts but
will branch out into offshore oil stuff.

That's cool. *Best of luck to you in your new venture.

That coating on the Shimano reels looks like Titanium nitride Harry.
I can get that done by electron beam evaporation.

Am amazed I didn't think of doing this several years ago. No more
employees, YES. No more workers comp, no more company pension to to
spend MY money contributing to. No more product reps in F*&k*&g India
calling me at weird times. No more incompetents in Abu Dhabi asking
me to go fix their spectrometer (like F*&k*&ing Hell). No more
supporting sales people. No more IRS hassling me about why this guy
is an independent contractor or employee. FREE AT LAST, FREE AT LAST,
Thank God ALMIGHTY, I'll be Free At last" without employees.

On Jun 4, 6:19*pm, Frogwatch wrote:
On Jun 4, 5:29*pm, Frogwatch wrote:



On Jun 4, 5:08*pm, jps wrote:

On Thu, 4 Jun 2009 13:37:13 -0700 (PDT), Frogwatch

wrote:
Sales of expensive x-ray instruments is not going well in this economy
so I am starting a new business, Mobile Marine Plating, Inc. *will
specialize in re-plating small marine parts with anti-corrosive and
decorative metal plating while the parts are in place via "brush
plating". *This means we will go to a boat and coat corroded parts
with electroplated nickel or bronze or even gold. *Larger numbers of
parts can be brought back to the lab for polishing en masse and re-
coating.
My specialty is nickel plating but one of the most interesting ones is
an electroless nickel coating that has hexagonal boron nitride *in *it
to give ti lubricating properties along with the anti-corrosion
properties. *Think about steel or Aluminum parts that are subject to
wear and corrosion where a coating about .00020" thick would be
helpful.
I am getting tired of hanging out with scientists anyway and want to
hang out in marinas. *Will probably start off coating local parts but
will branch out into offshore oil stuff.

That's cool. *Best of luck to you in your new venture.

That coating on the Shimano reels looks like Titanium nitride Harry.
I can get that done by electron beam evaporation.

Am amazed I didn't think of doing this several years ago. *No more
employees, YES. *No more workers comp, no more company pension to to
spend MY money contributing to. *No more product reps in F*&k*&g India
calling me at weird times. *No more incompetents in Abu Dhabi asking
me to go fix their spectrometer (like F*&k*&ing Hell). *No more
supporting sales people. *No more IRS hassling me about why this guy
is an independent contractor or employee. *FREE AT LAST, FREE AT LAST,
Thank God ALMIGHTY, I'll be Free At last" without employees.

My major worries are that:

!. I am terrible dealing with people and this will involve some of
that nastiness.
2. I have no idea how to set price.
3 Will I get bored?

Frogwatch wrote:
On Jun 4, 6:19 pm, Frogwatch wrote:
On Jun 4, 5:29 pm, Frogwatch wrote:



On Jun 4, 5:08 pm, jps wrote:
On Thu, 4 Jun 2009 13:37:13 -0700 (PDT), Frogwatch
wrote:
Sales of expensive x-ray instruments is not going well in this economy
so I am starting a new business, Mobile Marine Plating, Inc. will
specialize in re-plating small marine parts with anti-corrosive and
decorative metal plating while the parts are in place via "brush
plating". This means we will go to a boat and coat corroded parts
with electroplated nickel or bronze or even gold. Larger numbers of
parts can be brought back to the lab for polishing en masse and re-
coating.
My specialty is nickel plating but one of the most interesting ones is
an electroless nickel coating that has hexagonal boron nitride in it
to give ti lubricating properties along with the anti-corrosion
properties. Think about steel or Aluminum parts that are subject to
wear and corrosion where a coating about .00020" thick would be
helpful.
I am getting tired of hanging out with scientists anyway and want to
hang out in marinas. Will probably start off coating local parts but
will branch out into offshore oil stuff.
That's cool. Best of luck to you in your new venture.
That coating on the Shimano reels looks like Titanium nitride Harry.
I can get that done by electron beam evaporation.
Am amazed I didn't think of doing this several years ago. No more
employees, YES. No more workers comp, no more company pension to to
spend MY money contributing to. No more product reps in F*&k*&g India
calling me at weird times. No more incompetents in Abu Dhabi asking
me to go fix their spectrometer (like F*&k*&ing Hell). No more
supporting sales people. No more IRS hassling me about why this guy
is an independent contractor or employee. FREE AT LAST, FREE AT LAST,
Thank God ALMIGHTY, I'll be Free At last" without employees.

My major worries are that:

!. I am terrible dealing with people and this will involve some of
that nastiness.
2. I have no idea how to set price.
3 Will I get bored?


Setting the price? Call others who do it, and find out what they charge.
My Shimano "gold reels" are small - the 200 series - and only one needs
to be refinished at the moment. I don't recall what I paid for it when
new, maybe $150? It works fine, has a small dent in the case, but isn't
as "purty" as it used to be. I'd pay at least $25 plus shipping if the
coating were durable.

On Thu, 4 Jun 2009 15:25:50 -0700 (PDT), Frogwatch
wrote:

On Jun 4, 6:19*pm, Frogwatch wrote:
On Jun 4, 5:29*pm, Frogwatch wrote:



On Jun 4, 5:08*pm, jps wrote:

On Thu, 4 Jun 2009 13:37:13 -0700 (PDT), Frogwatch

wrote:
Sales of expensive x-ray instruments is not going well in this economy
so I am starting a new business, Mobile Marine Plating, Inc. *will
specialize in re-plating small marine parts with anti-corrosive and
decorative metal plating while the parts are in place via "brush
plating". *This means we will go to a boat and coat corroded parts
with electroplated nickel or bronze or even gold. *Larger numbers of
parts can be brought back to the lab for polishing en masse and re-
coating.
My specialty is nickel plating but one of the most interesting ones is
an electroless nickel coating that has hexagonal boron nitride *in *it
to give ti lubricating properties along with the anti-corrosion
properties. *Think about steel or Aluminum parts that are subject to
wear and corrosion where a coating about .00020" thick would be
helpful.
I am getting tired of hanging out with scientists anyway and want to
hang out in marinas. *Will probably start off coating local parts but
will branch out into offshore oil stuff.

That's cool. *Best of luck to you in your new venture.

That coating on the Shimano reels looks like Titanium nitride Harry.
I can get that done by electron beam evaporation.

Am amazed I didn't think of doing this several years ago. *No more
employees, YES. *No more workers comp, no more company pension to to
spend MY money contributing to. *No more product reps in F*&k*&g India
calling me at weird times. *No more incompetents in Abu Dhabi asking
me to go fix their spectrometer (like F*&k*&ing Hell). *No more
supporting sales people. *No more IRS hassling me about why this guy
is an independent contractor or employee. *FREE AT LAST, FREE AT LAST,
Thank God ALMIGHTY, I'll be Free At last" without employees.

My major worries are that:

!. I am terrible dealing with people and this will involve some of
that nastiness.
2. I have no idea how to set price.
3 Will I get bored?

Replating is a pain in the butt if you have to R&R and deliver it.
And, it's expensive.

I think your idea is good and people will be glad to have your
expertise. Doing it in place is a hell of an advantage.

On Thu, 4 Jun 2009 15:19:23 -0700 (PDT), Frogwatch
wrote:

On Jun 4, 5:29*pm, Frogwatch wrote:
On Jun 4, 5:08*pm, jps wrote:



On Thu, 4 Jun 2009 13:37:13 -0700 (PDT), Frogwatch

wrote:
Sales of expensive x-ray instruments is not going well in this economy
so I am starting a new business, Mobile Marine Plating, Inc. *will
specialize in re-plating small marine parts with anti-corrosive and
decorative metal plating while the parts are in place via "brush
plating". *This means we will go to a boat and coat corroded parts
with electroplated nickel or bronze or even gold. *Larger numbers of
parts can be brought back to the lab for polishing en masse and re-
coating.
My specialty is nickel plating but one of the most interesting ones is
an electroless nickel coating that has hexagonal boron nitride *in *it
to give ti lubricating properties along with the anti-corrosion
properties. *Think about steel or Aluminum parts that are subject to
wear and corrosion where a coating about .00020" thick would be
helpful.
I am getting tired of hanging out with scientists anyway and want to
hang out in marinas. *Will probably start off coating local parts but
will branch out into offshore oil stuff.

That's cool. *Best of luck to you in your new venture.

That coating on the Shimano reels looks like Titanium nitride Harry.
I can get that done by electron beam evaporation.

Am amazed I didn't think of doing this several years ago. No more
employees, YES. No more workers comp, no more company pension to to
spend MY money contributing to. No more product reps in F*&k*&g India
calling me at weird times. No more incompetents in Abu Dhabi asking
me to go fix their spectrometer (like F*&k*&ing Hell). No more
supporting sales people. No more IRS hassling me about why this guy
is an independent contractor or employee. FREE AT LAST, FREE AT LAST,
Thank God ALMIGHTY, I'll be Free At last" without employees.

That sounds really great. You'll still have plenty of compliance but
not as much. I sometimes pine for a job. Sole ownership sounds pretty
good too.

Too much invested in what I'm doing and it's going the right
direction. Sure hope it pays for the kids college and retirement.

Maybe that 44' Tolly I dream about...

"Frogwatch" wrote in message
...

That coating on the Shimano reels looks like Titanium nitride Harry.
I can get that done by electron beam evaporation.

--------------------------------

Sputtering would be better. Nickel base for a "glue" layer, then reactive
sputter the TiO2.
Sputtering will give you much better adhesion and uniform 3 dimensional
coverage, within reason. EB will be pretty much line of sight, plus it would
be slow due to the much lower operating pressure required by the source for
reactive coating.

I know of a small used system ideally set up for something like this, if you
are interested.

Eisboch

Eisboch wrote:

"Frogwatch" wrote in message
...

That coating on the Shimano reels looks like Titanium nitride Harry.
I can get that done by electron beam evaporation.

--------------------------------

Sputtering would be better. Nickel base for a "glue" layer, then
reactive sputter the TiO2.
Sputtering will give you much better adhesion and uniform 3 dimensional
coverage, within reason. EB will be pretty much line of sight, plus it
would be slow due to the much lower operating pressure required by the
source for reactive coating.

I know of a small used system ideally set up for something like this, if
you are interested.

Eisboch


Whooosh...that's the sound of what you just explained zooming over my head.

On Jun 4, 10:19*pm, HK wrote:
Eisboch wrote:

"Frogwatch" wrote in message
....

That coating on the Shimano reels looks like Titanium nitride Harry.
I can get that done by electron beam evaporation.

--------------------------------

Sputtering would be better. *Nickel base for a "glue" layer, then
reactive sputter the TiO2.
Sputtering will give you much better adhesion and uniform 3 dimensional
coverage, within reason. EB will be pretty much line of sight, plus it
would be slow due to the much lower operating pressure required by the
source for reactive coating.

I know of a small used system ideally set up for something like this, if
you are interested.

Eisboch

Whooosh...that's the sound of what you just explained zooming over my head.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

What? The alleged mechanical engineer doesn't understand?
Unbelievable!

HK wrote:
Eisboch wrote:

"Frogwatch" wrote in message
...

That coating on the Shimano reels looks like Titanium nitride Harry.
I can get that done by electron beam evaporation.

--------------------------------

Sputtering would be better. Nickel base for a "glue" layer, then
reactive sputter the TiO2.
Sputtering will give you much better adhesion and uniform 3
dimensional coverage, within reason. EB will be pretty much line of
sight, plus it would be slow due to the much lower operating pressure
required by the source for reactive coating.

I know of a small used system ideally set up for something like this,
if you are interested.

Eisboch


Whooosh...that's the sound of what you just explained zooming over my head.

Not surprised at that.
Eisboch has the ability to whoosh people much more intelligent than you.