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Wizard of Woodstock wrote:
On Thu, 04 Jun 2009 20:26:31 -0400, Gene
wrote:

On Fri, 5 Jun 2009 00:18:21 GMT, "Steve"
wrote:

On 4-Jun-2009, jps wrote:

****ing borrowed money down the drain on state "employees" is not
economic
stimulus. It's simply exacerbating (for those in Maryland, that is
not a
sexual term) the problem that already existed.
It's certainly stimulus if those folks would otherwise be out of work
and out of money to spend....
..........on Asian cars and shoddy Chinese junk. That's reverse
stimulus.
You are 100% right, there..... at no point in history has "Buy
American" been more important...

Not to be a jerk, but what kind of outboards do you have? :)


He has four cycle outboards. BTW, you do know that eTecs are made in
China, too, right?


Always trying to get in a dig when you can, eh harry? I'm sure Tom is very
aware where his engines are made, but he wasn't the one that made the, "buy
American" statement now, was he? Go crawl back under your desk where you
belong. It must be wonderful to be so well liked...LOL.

--Mike

On Thu, 04 Jun 2009 21:35:19 -0400, Gene
wrote:

On Thu, 04 Jun 2009 21:15:29 -0400, Wizard of Woodstock
wrote:

On Thu, 04 Jun 2009 20:26:31 -0400, Gene
wrote:

On Fri, 5 Jun 2009 00:18:21 GMT, "Steve"
wrote:


On 4-Jun-2009, jps wrote:

****ing borrowed money down the drain on state "employees" is not
economic
stimulus. It's simply exacerbating (for those in Maryland, that is not a
sexual term) the problem that already existed.

It's certainly stimulus if those folks would otherwise be out of work
and out of money to spend....

..........on Asian cars and shoddy Chinese junk. That's reverse stimulus.

You are 100% right, there..... at no point in history has "Buy
American" been more important...

Not to be a jerk, but what kind of outboards do you have? :)

Squeezeuki's........ you jerk..... :-)

ROTFL!!!

Merc's are just not found around here..... and even if they were, I'm
not sure that *they* are actually made here....

You know, I'm not sure either. I know that Merc's smaller two stroke
blocks were once made by Yamaha (up to 150 I think) and I think that
their original four stroke lines were Yamaha - not sure about that
now. I'm pretty sure the Verado is made here.

My engine? Cosmopolitan - a true "global" effort. Europe, Japan,
China, US, Canada - it's more Obama than Obama. :)

On Jun 4, 4:50*pm, Gene wrote:

If tourism doesn't pick up, NC is in for at least another pitiful 2
years..... *a hurricane could literally destroy our teetering
economy.....
--

But Gene, what about all that hurricane relief the feds would send
your way.

8^ 0

On Jun 4, 8:55*pm, Wizard of Woodstock wrote:
On Thu, 04 Jun 2009 21:35:19 -0400, Gene



wrote:
On Thu, 04 Jun 2009 21:15:29 -0400, Wizard of Woodstock
wrote:

On Thu, 04 Jun 2009 20:26:31 -0400, Gene
wrote:

On Fri, 5 Jun 2009 00:18:21 GMT, "Steve"
wrote:

On *4-Jun-2009, jps wrote:

****ing borrowed money down the drain on state "employees" is not
economic
stimulus. It's simply exacerbating (for those in Maryland, that is not a
sexual term) the problem that already existed.

It's certainly stimulus if those folks would otherwise be out of work
and out of money to spend....

..........on Asian cars and shoddy Chinese junk. *That's reverse stimulus.

You are 100% right, there..... *at no point in history has "Buy
American" been more important...

Not to be a jerk, but what kind of outboards do you have? *:)

Squeezeuki's........ you jerk..... *:-)

ROTFL!!!

Merc's are just not found around here..... and even if they were, I'm
not sure that *they* are actually made here....

You know, I'm not sure either. *I know that Merc's smaller two stroke
blocks were once made by Yamaha (up to 150 I think) and I think that
their original four stroke lines were Yamaha - not sure about that
now. *I'm pretty sure the Verado is made here.

My engine? Cosmopolitan - a true "global" effort. Europe, Japan,
China, US, Canada - it's more Obama than Obama. *:)

I got mercruisers. all American Chevy engines burning a blend of
Venezuelan and Arabic petroleum!

Beat that!

HA!

On Thu, 04 Jun 2009 21:55:47 -0400, Wizard of Woodstock
wrote:

On Thu, 04 Jun 2009 21:35:19 -0400, Gene
wrote:

On Thu, 04 Jun 2009 21:15:29 -0400, Wizard of Woodstock
wrote:

On Thu, 04 Jun 2009 20:26:31 -0400, Gene
wrote:

On Fri, 5 Jun 2009 00:18:21 GMT, "Steve"
wrote:


On 4-Jun-2009, jps wrote:

****ing borrowed money down the drain on state "employees" is not
economic
stimulus. It's simply exacerbating (for those in Maryland, that is not a
sexual term) the problem that already existed.

It's certainly stimulus if those folks would otherwise be out of work
and out of money to spend....

..........on Asian cars and shoddy Chinese junk. That's reverse stimulus.

You are 100% right, there..... at no point in history has "Buy
American" been more important...

Not to be a jerk, but what kind of outboards do you have? :)

Squeezeuki's........ you jerk..... :-)

ROTFL!!!

Merc's are just not found around here..... and even if they were, I'm
not sure that *they* are actually made here....

You know, I'm not sure either. I know that Merc's smaller two stroke
blocks were once made by Yamaha (up to 150 I think) and I think that
their original four stroke lines were Yamaha - not sure about that
now. I'm pretty sure the Verado is made here.

My engine? Cosmopolitan - a true "global" effort. Europe, Japan,
China, US, Canada - it's more Obama than Obama. :)

A real American would buy a Ranger just after they sell their current
boat.

Tim wrote:
On Jun 4, 4:50 pm, Gene wrote:

If tourism doesn't pick up, NC is in for at least another pitiful 2
years..... a hurricane could literally destroy our teetering
economy.....
--

But Gene, what about all that hurricane relief the feds would send
your way.

8^ 0

Didn't Dear Leader Obama just say that the States and local governments
have to be the first responders to natural disasters within their
boundaries?

On Jun 4, 4:32*pm, HK wrote:
SC high court orders Gov. Sanford to take money

And you are another Maryland Horse's Ass.
Been to any of the Klan meetings up there in the headquarters of the
KKK?

On Jun 5, 7:55*am, BAR wrote:
Tim wrote:
On Jun 4, 4:50 pm, Gene wrote:

If tourism doesn't pick up, NC is in for at least another pitiful 2
years..... *a hurricane could literally destroy our teetering
economy.....
--

But Gene, what about all that hurricane relief the feds would send
your way.

8^ 0

Didn't Dear Leader Obama just say that the States and local governments
have to be the first responders to natural disasters within their
boundaries?

Affirmation for how Bush handled Katrina. Imagine that!

On Jun 4, 7:45*pm, Gene wrote:
On Thu, 4 Jun 2009 23:09:25 GMT, "Steve"
wrote:



On *4-Jun-2009, Gene wrote:

I'm damn glad NC took the money. State employees have already been
told that we wouldn't have gotten a pay check last month if it weren't
for the stimulus package (even though those of us, still with a job,
were subject to pay cuts and forced furloughs).

****ing borrowed money down the drain on state "employees" is not economic
stimulus. It's simply exacerbating (for those in Maryland, that is not a
sexual term) the problem that already existed.

NC does not run a deficit budget. I suppose we could have closed the
state for a couple of months..... but that's kinda the problem. State
government knew things were really bad, but when the (lack of) tax
receipts came in, in April, they found out they were really in deep
doo-doo....


What most don't realize is that by accepting and spending the
education stimulus money, the state is signing up for more spending in
the coming years. That's the main problem with the 700 million that
Sanford was having an issue with. He wanted to use it to pay down
debt from building schools, but the feds wouldn't let him do that.
The feds have strings attached to that money that says if you take it
and spend it in certain ways, including paying for teachers, you
*must* continue to fund that spending at 75% of the level in the
following years when there is NO federal money coming in. Problem is,
there will be no state money to fund that, so you're signing yourself
up to pay out money that you don't have.

What will end up happening is that the money won't be used to pay
teachers, but will be used for other programs that make little sense,
but don't have the future funding requirements, like after school
programs. The local school administrators have already warned that
teachers would still be let go, even with the stimulus money. They're
already setting the stage.