Mencken famously stated ""No one ever went broke underestimating the
taste of the American public."
GM has proven him wrong.

--Vic

On Tue, 02 Jun 2009 19:04:30 -0500, Vic Smith
wrote:

Mencken famously stated ""No one ever went broke underestimating the
taste of the American public."
GM has proven him wrong.


It worked for a while but they lost touch and started coasting. When
you look back at some of the barges they were selling in the 70s it's
a wonder they lasted as long as they did.

On Tue, 02 Jun 2009 19:04:30 -0500, Vic Smith
wrote:

Mencken famously stated ""No one ever went broke underestimating the
taste of the American public."
GM has proven him wrong.

--Vic

Does it really have to do with taste? GM was headed for obsolescence
quite some time ago and the economy provided the tipping point. Lots
of folks drive butt ugly vehicles that didn't come from GM.

I predict butt ugly cars will continue to be sold to Americans by the
thousands and Mencken will be vindicated.

On Tue, 02 Jun 2009 17:55:45 -0700, jps wrote:

On Tue, 02 Jun 2009 19:04:30 -0500, Vic Smith
wrote:

Mencken famously stated ""No one ever went broke underestimating the
taste of the American public."
GM has proven him wrong.

--Vic

Does it really have to do with taste?

Just depends on how you define taste.
As in, "Not enough Americans have a taste for GM vehicles."
What got to me thinking about this was I saw a Bob Lutz interview
on TV.
Seemed like a reasonable guy.
So I looked him up on Wiki and found this:
"When Lutz became chairman of GM North American development in 2001
one of the first things he stated was that his new 500 hp car was
going to save General Motors. His full compensation in 2008 is
estimated at $6.9 million."

And this:
"He will retire from GM at the end of 2009. Lutz said that one reason
for his decision was the increasing regulatory climate in Washington
that would force him to design what Federal regulators wanted, rather
than what customers wanted."

That is what I mean by "taste."
Lutz and the others running GM were complete fools.
Gonna save GM with 500 hp car.
Gonna give the customers what they want.
Sorry, close your ears. I have to say this.
LUTZ, YOU TASTELESS ****ING MORON!!
I WOULDN'T HIRE YOU TO CUT BAIT!!

--Vic

Vic Smith wrote:
On Tue, 02 Jun 2009 17:55:45 -0700, jps wrote:

On Tue, 02 Jun 2009 19:04:30 -0500, Vic Smith
wrote:

Mencken famously stated ""No one ever went broke underestimating the
taste of the American public."
GM has proven him wrong.

--Vic
Does it really have to do with taste?

Just depends on how you define taste.
As in, "Not enough Americans have a taste for GM vehicles."
What got to me thinking about this was I saw a Bob Lutz interview
on TV.
Seemed like a reasonable guy.
So I looked him up on Wiki and found this:
"When Lutz became chairman of GM North American development in 2001
one of the first things he stated was that his new 500 hp car was
going to save General Motors. His full compensation in 2008 is
estimated at $6.9 million."

And this:
"He will retire from GM at the end of 2009. Lutz said that one reason
for his decision was the increasing regulatory climate in Washington
that would force him to design what Federal regulators wanted, rather
than what customers wanted."

That is what I mean by "taste."
Lutz and the others running GM were complete fools.
Gonna save GM with 500 hp car.
Gonna give the customers what they want.
Sorry, close your ears. I have to say this.
LUTZ, YOU TASTELESS ****ING MORON!!
I WOULDN'T HIRE YOU TO CUT BAIT!!

--Vic





It's been time for decades to wean american males off their overpowered
penis substitutes in cars and boats.

On Tue, 02 Jun 2009 20:47:43 -0400, Wayne.B
wrote:

On Tue, 02 Jun 2009 19:04:30 -0500, Vic Smith
wrote:

Mencken famously stated ""No one ever went broke underestimating the
taste of the American public."
GM has proven him wrong.


It worked for a while but they lost touch and started coasting. When
you look back at some of the barges they were selling in the 70s it's
a wonder they lasted as long as they did.

In the 70's the Big 3 were the only game in town for large cars.
My '70's Chevys were ok. Just ok. But I did my own work.
I didn't want a small car.
But millions of others would, and even more in the '80's-'90's
They failed to anticipate the marketplace,
And when they did, their response was inadequate.
Even now, they are infused with management living in the past.
Their only chance is Obama kicking their dumb asses around
until they can make a profit.
That's what they have to learn. Make a profit.
I'm a stockholder now.

--Vic

On Tue, 02 Jun 2009 19:04:30 -0500, Vic Smith
wrote:

Mencken famously stated ""No one ever went broke underestimating the
taste of the American public."
GM has proven him wrong.

"Every normal man must be tempted at times to spit on his hands, hoist
the black flag, and begin to slit throats." H. L. Mencken

Truer words were never spoken. :)

On Tue, 02 Jun 2009 20:17:53 -0500, Vic Smith
wrote:

Gonna save GM with 500 hp car.

Well, to tell the truth, I might have bought one if it came in a
Corvette body. :)

On Jun 2, 8:26*pm, HK wrote:
Vic Smith wrote:
On Tue, 02 Jun 2009 17:55:45 -0700, jps wrote:

On Tue, 02 Jun 2009 19:04:30 -0500, Vic Smith
wrote:

Mencken famously stated ""No one ever went broke underestimating the
taste of the American public."
GM has proven him wrong.

--Vic
Does it really have to do with taste?

Just depends on how you define taste.
As in, "Not enough Americans have a taste for GM vehicles."
What got to me thinking about this was I saw a Bob Lutz interview
on TV.
Seemed like a reasonable guy.
So I looked him up on Wiki and found this:
"When Lutz became chairman of GM North American development in 2001
one of the first things he stated was that his new 500 hp car was
going to save General Motors. His full compensation in 2008 is
estimated at $6.9 million."

And this:
"He will retire from GM at the end of 2009. Lutz said that one reason
for his decision was the increasing regulatory climate in Washington
that would force him to design what Federal regulators wanted, rather
than what customers wanted."

That is what I mean by "taste."
Lutz and the others running GM were complete fools.
Gonna save GM with 500 hp car.
Gonna give the customers what they want.
Sorry, close your ears. *I have to say this.
LUTZ, YOU TASTELESS ****ING MORON!!
I WOULDN'T HIRE YOU TO CUT BAIT!!

--Vic

It's been time for decades to wean american males off their overpowered
penis substitutes in cars and boats.

Herr Krause. You draw from your psuedo-intellect such a statement
while boasting of a boat with a hole in it's ass?

On Tue, 02 Jun 2009 22:48:05 -0400, wrote:

On Tue, 02 Jun 2009 22:16:35 -0400, Zombie of Woodstock
wrote:

On Tue, 02 Jun 2009 20:17:53 -0500, Vic Smith
wrote:

Gonna save GM with 500 hp car.

Well, to tell the truth, I might have bought one if it came in a
Corvette body. :)

You can get pretty close in a Cadillac 2 door coupe.
My FIL's CTS is a 4 door but it moves right along and he didn't get
the one with the blower.

http://gfretwell.com/ftp/Lloyds%20car.jpg

The dealer said "how does it feel to be the last guy who bought a
Cadillac"?


... UAW retiree. ;-).

"How do you ask a man to be the last to buy a Cadillac?"