HK wrote:
Richard Casady wrote:
On Wed, 3 Jun 2009 06:28:53 -0700 (PDT), wrote:

Then GM tried with
the Vega,

There were five thousand with four valves per cylinder, DOHC. Only
Lotus and Jensen-Healy offered that. My brother had a Jensen.. Called
it the road oiler. Bought it in 72 and it rusted while he spent years
on a flattop. Then he got home, we stripped it down to the frame, more
or less, and chased the rust. He has probably put an thousand miles on
it since.
Casady


Ahhhh...British sports cars.

My introduction to them came in junior high. One of my buds was one of
three sons of a fairly wealthy lawyer. His two older brothers were given
Austin-Healeys for their 16th birthdays, and we got to wash them and sit
in them and drive them around the circular driveway when we were about
13. When my friend turned 16, his dad bought him a new Jag XK150. I fell
in love with that car. We even took it up to Lime Rock once and ran the
track on a non race day. Great fun.

After I finished my junior year in college, I got a summer job at a
newspaper and used my practically non-existent salary to buy a pretty
MG-A. I loved that car, but it was completely unreliable in every aspect
possible.

But I loved driving it when it would start! Then I bought a new
TR4-IRS, and that became my favorite sports car. It wasn't as pretty as
the MG, but it was rock solid reliable. It was followed by a Lotus
Cortina, which was an English Ford with an engine "worked on" by Lotus.
Well, that should have done it for me, because it, too, was a P.O.S.

While in Florida, I bought an unrestored, original and near-perfect Jag
XK150-S with, incredibly, just under 9,000 original miles. I drove it a
little on dry, windless days, but mostly it lived in a good solid
garage, under a soft bedsheet. It stayed in Florida when we moved to
Maryland. A friend took care of the car for me in between my visits.
Sold the car last year with 11,000 miles on it. The new owner had to
supply his own battery. I really liked the car, and still think the
XK150 and the original XKE's that followed were the high point of
British sports car design. I never like the Lotuses much.

There's a firm in England remanufacturing XKE's, and from what I have
read they do a fabulous job. They have original, cleaned up E-types, but
what really interests me are the fully modernized, remanufactured XKE's.

Oh...the buddy...he cracked up the XK150 and the next week, his dad
bought him a new "E" type.

You sure are a glutton for punishment. You would think you would have
learned something after purchasing your first British motorcar
Who said slow learners couldn't graduate from a third rate Kansas
school. Probably the bottom of your class but who cares. You made it.
Congratulations.

On Jun 5, 9:31*am, HK wrote:
Richard Casady wrote:
On Wed, 3 Jun 2009 06:28:53 -0700 (PDT), wrote:

Then GM tried with
the Vega,

There were five thousand with four valves per cylinder, DOHC. Only
Lotus and Jensen-Healy offered that. My brother had a Jensen.. Called
it the road oiler. Bought it in 72 and it rusted while he spent years
on a flattop. Then he got home, we stripped it down to the frame, more
or less, and chased the rust. He has probably put an thousand miles on
it since.

Casady

Ahhhh...British sports cars.

My introduction to them came in junior high. One of my buds was one of
three sons of a fairly wealthy lawyer. His two older brothers were given
Austin-Healeys for their 16th birthdays, and we got to wash them and sit
in them and drive them around the circular driveway when we were about
13. When my friend turned 16, his dad bought him a new Jag XK150. I fell
in love with that car. We even took it up to Lime Rock once and ran the
track on a non race day. Great fun.

After I finished my junior year in college, I got a summer job at a
newspaper and used my practically non-existent salary to buy a pretty
MG-A. I loved that car, but it was completely unreliable in every aspect
possible.

But I loved driving it when it would start! *Then I bought a new
TR4-IRS, and that became my favorite sports car. It wasn't as pretty as
the MG, but it was rock solid reliable. It was followed by a Lotus
Cortina, which was an English Ford with an engine "worked on" by Lotus.
Well, that should have done it for me, because it, too, was a P.O.S.

While in Florida, I bought an unrestored, original and near-perfect Jag
XK150-S with, incredibly, just under 9,000 original miles. I drove it a
little on dry, windless days, but mostly it lived in a good solid
garage, under a soft bedsheet. *It stayed in Florida when we moved to
Maryland. A friend took care of the car for me in between my visits.
Sold the car last year with 11,000 miles on it. The new owner had to
supply his own battery. I really liked the car, and still think the
XK150 and the original XKE's that followed were the high point of
British sports car design. I never like the Lotuses much.

There's a firm in England remanufacturing XKE's, and from what I have
read they do a fabulous job. They have original, cleaned up E-types, but
what really interests me are the fully modernized, remanufactured XKE's.

Oh...the buddy...he cracked up the XK150 and the next week, his dad
bought him a new "E" type.

Ah......WAFA bull**** at it's finest.

On Tue, 02 Jun 2009 19:04:30 -0500, Vic Smith
wrote:

Mencken famously stated ""No one ever went broke underestimating the
taste of the American public."
GM has proven him wrong.

--Vic

Does it really have to do with taste? GM was headed for obsolescence
quite some time ago and the economy provided the tipping point. Lots
of folks drive butt ugly vehicles that didn't come from GM.

I predict butt ugly cars will continue to be sold to Americans by the
thousands and Mencken will be vindicated.

On Tue, 02 Jun 2009 17:55:45 -0700, jps wrote:

On Tue, 02 Jun 2009 19:04:30 -0500, Vic Smith
wrote:

Mencken famously stated ""No one ever went broke underestimating the
taste of the American public."
GM has proven him wrong.

--Vic

Does it really have to do with taste?

Just depends on how you define taste.
As in, "Not enough Americans have a taste for GM vehicles."
What got to me thinking about this was I saw a Bob Lutz interview
on TV.
Seemed like a reasonable guy.
So I looked him up on Wiki and found this:
"When Lutz became chairman of GM North American development in 2001
one of the first things he stated was that his new 500 hp car was
going to save General Motors. His full compensation in 2008 is
estimated at $6.9 million."

And this:
"He will retire from GM at the end of 2009. Lutz said that one reason
for his decision was the increasing regulatory climate in Washington
that would force him to design what Federal regulators wanted, rather
than what customers wanted."

That is what I mean by "taste."
Lutz and the others running GM were complete fools.
Gonna save GM with 500 hp car.
Gonna give the customers what they want.
Sorry, close your ears. I have to say this.
LUTZ, YOU TASTELESS ****ING MORON!!
I WOULDN'T HIRE YOU TO CUT BAIT!!

--Vic

Vic Smith wrote:
On Tue, 02 Jun 2009 17:55:45 -0700, jps wrote:

On Tue, 02 Jun 2009 19:04:30 -0500, Vic Smith
wrote:

Mencken famously stated ""No one ever went broke underestimating the
taste of the American public."
GM has proven him wrong.

--Vic
Does it really have to do with taste?

Just depends on how you define taste.
As in, "Not enough Americans have a taste for GM vehicles."
What got to me thinking about this was I saw a Bob Lutz interview
on TV.
Seemed like a reasonable guy.
So I looked him up on Wiki and found this:
"When Lutz became chairman of GM North American development in 2001
one of the first things he stated was that his new 500 hp car was
going to save General Motors. His full compensation in 2008 is
estimated at $6.9 million."

And this:
"He will retire from GM at the end of 2009. Lutz said that one reason
for his decision was the increasing regulatory climate in Washington
that would force him to design what Federal regulators wanted, rather
than what customers wanted."

That is what I mean by "taste."
Lutz and the others running GM were complete fools.
Gonna save GM with 500 hp car.
Gonna give the customers what they want.
Sorry, close your ears. I have to say this.
LUTZ, YOU TASTELESS ****ING MORON!!
I WOULDN'T HIRE YOU TO CUT BAIT!!

--Vic





It's been time for decades to wean american males off their overpowered
penis substitutes in cars and boats.

On Jun 2, 8:26*pm, HK wrote:
Vic Smith wrote:
On Tue, 02 Jun 2009 17:55:45 -0700, jps wrote:

On Tue, 02 Jun 2009 19:04:30 -0500, Vic Smith
wrote:

Mencken famously stated ""No one ever went broke underestimating the
taste of the American public."
GM has proven him wrong.

--Vic
Does it really have to do with taste?

Just depends on how you define taste.
As in, "Not enough Americans have a taste for GM vehicles."
What got to me thinking about this was I saw a Bob Lutz interview
on TV.
Seemed like a reasonable guy.
So I looked him up on Wiki and found this:
"When Lutz became chairman of GM North American development in 2001
one of the first things he stated was that his new 500 hp car was
going to save General Motors. His full compensation in 2008 is
estimated at $6.9 million."

And this:
"He will retire from GM at the end of 2009. Lutz said that one reason
for his decision was the increasing regulatory climate in Washington
that would force him to design what Federal regulators wanted, rather
than what customers wanted."

That is what I mean by "taste."
Lutz and the others running GM were complete fools.
Gonna save GM with 500 hp car.
Gonna give the customers what they want.
Sorry, close your ears. *I have to say this.
LUTZ, YOU TASTELESS ****ING MORON!!
I WOULDN'T HIRE YOU TO CUT BAIT!!

--Vic

It's been time for decades to wean american males off their overpowered
penis substitutes in cars and boats.

Herr Krause. You draw from your psuedo-intellect such a statement
while boasting of a boat with a hole in it's ass?

It's been time for decades to wean american males off their overpowered
penis substitutes in cars and boats.- Hide quoted text -


Penis substitutes? Would that explain the Hatteras and the Zimerman-
like lobster boat?

GC Boater wrote:
It's been time for decades to wean american males off their overpowered
penis substitutes in cars and boats.- Hide quoted text -


Penis substitutes? Would that explain the Hatteras and the Zimerman-
like lobster boat?


He said the same thing about people who owned handguns.

--
Reginald P. Smithers III, Esq.

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On Jun 2, 11:26*pm, GC Boater wrote:
It's been time for decades to wean american males off their overpowered
penis substitutes in cars and boats.- Hide quoted text -

Penis substitutes? *Would that explain the Hatteras and the Zimerman-
like lobster boat?

AND the fireboat welcome!

On Jun 2, 9:26*pm, HK wrote:
Vic Smith wrote:
On Tue, 02 Jun 2009 17:55:45 -0700, jps wrote:

On Tue, 02 Jun 2009 19:04:30 -0500, Vic Smith
wrote:

Mencken famously stated ""No one ever went broke underestimating the
taste of the American public."
GM has proven him wrong.

--Vic
Does it really have to do with taste?

Just depends on how you define taste.
As in, "Not enough Americans have a taste for GM vehicles."
What got to me thinking about this was I saw a Bob Lutz interview
on TV.
Seemed like a reasonable guy.
So I looked him up on Wiki and found this:
"When Lutz became chairman of GM North American development in 2001
one of the first things he stated was that his new 500 hp car was
going to save General Motors. His full compensation in 2008 is
estimated at $6.9 million."

And this:
"He will retire from GM at the end of 2009. Lutz said that one reason
for his decision was the increasing regulatory climate in Washington
that would force him to design what Federal regulators wanted, rather
than what customers wanted."

That is what I mean by "taste."
Lutz and the others running GM were complete fools.
Gonna save GM with 500 hp car.
Gonna give the customers what they want.
Sorry, close your ears. *I have to say this.
LUTZ, YOU TASTELESS ****ING MORON!!
I WOULDN'T HIRE YOU TO CUT BAIT!!

--Vic

It's been time for decades to wean american males off their overpowered
penis substitutes in cars and boats.

Like lobster boats?