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SteveB[_2_] May 26th 09 02:31 AM

Boat wiring questions
 
I am about to rewire my Lund. A simple thing, with only a few circuits.
Some wires need to be deleted, others replaced, and some I'm not sure. I
was wondering if it is advisable to just put a knife switch on the hot.
Right now, I have the screw on battery terminals, and it's just another step
before launch. The wiring is generally half birdsnest and half done right.

Is a knife switch a good thing? Should I put a mondo fuse in line, too?
Just in case.

Steve



Wizard of Woodstock May 26th 09 02:47 AM

Boat wiring questions
 
On Mon, 25 May 2009 19:31:59 -0600, "SteveB"
wrote:

I am about to rewire my Lund. A simple thing, with only a few circuits.
Some wires need to be deleted, others replaced, and some I'm not sure. I
was wondering if it is advisable to just put a knife switch on the hot.
Right now, I have the screw on battery terminals, and it's just another step
before launch. The wiring is generally half birdsnest and half done right.

Is a knife switch a good thing? Should I put a mondo fuse in line, too?
Just in case.


No - simpler to use a circuit breaker panel - you can get one at West
Marine for $20 - water proof, simple and easy to install.

http://tinyurl.com/pvl22j

There are others around - Defender sells one that's good, but it's a
little more pricey.

Don White's boat (which was mine at one time) has a open type fused
circuit panel that isn't water proof, but is protected from the
weather - I don't think that's what you are looking for.

SteveB[_2_] May 26th 09 11:35 PM

Boat wiring questions
 

wrote in message
...
On Mon, 25 May 2009 19:31:59 -0600, "SteveB"
wrote:

I am about to rewire my Lund. A simple thing, with only a few circuits.
Some wires need to be deleted, others replaced, and some I'm not sure. I
was wondering if it is advisable to just put a knife switch on the hot.
Right now, I have the screw on battery terminals, and it's just another
step
before launch. The wiring is generally half birdsnest and half done
right.

Is a knife switch a good thing? Should I put a mondo fuse in line, too?
Just in case.

Steve


If you can really keep it dry, use a breaker panel but if it is going
to be damp and maintenance is a sometimes thing a good brass fuse
block may be a better choice. It is something you can fix on the
water. Use a good silicone grease on everything (Dow/Corning 111 works
for me).
I have all the wiring on my boat in RNC (the gray plastic conduit)
terminating in a 3R electrical box under the console or up into the
control part of the console.
The 3R box has a good cover so I went with breakers
The places where conduit was impractical to fish I used ENT (Smurf
tube).
19 years of salt water later my wiring is still doing fine.
I avoided any splices that were not right at the termination points.
All wires home run to the box under the console or where they go in
the console.
Try to color coordinate which wires go to what so it is easy to fix
later.
My green light is in green wire, red for red, white for white etc. I
maintain the Merc color code for gauges. (tan is water temp, gray is
tach etc) Black is always ground.
http://gfretwell.com/electrical/merc%20color%20code.pdf

The place I differ is orange is +12v and the only red other than the
red light is the battery cable and that is easy to differentiate.

Doing a system like this makes sorting the mess out behind the console
panel pretty easy, I could tywrap the stuff up into a neat cable but
that can sometimes actually make it harder to work on.

I


I feel like I live on another planet. Our climate here is such that
corrosion and a lot of factors are not applicable. Yes, I know it is good
to have everything fused. My question was the ease at which the whole
system can be turned off versus the now thing of clamping three terminals on
a battery lug with a wing nut.

Steve



Wizard of Woodstock May 27th 09 12:48 AM

Boat wiring questions
 
On Tue, 26 May 2009 16:35:27 -0600, "SteveB"
wrote:

I feel like I live on another planet. Our climate here is such that
corrosion and a lot of factors are not applicable. Yes, I know it is good
to have everything fused. My question was the ease at which the whole
system can be turned off versus the now thing of clamping three terminals on
a battery lug with a wing nut.


http://tinyurl.com/pclp2f

[email protected] May 27th 09 12:56 AM

Boat wiring questions
 
On May 25, 9:47*pm, Wizard of Woodstock wrote:
On Mon, 25 May 2009 19:31:59 -0600, "SteveB"
wrote:

I am about to rewire my Lund. *A simple thing, with only a few circuits.
Some wires need to be deleted, others replaced, and some I'm not sure. *I
was wondering if it is advisable to just put a knife switch on the hot.
Right now, I have the screw on battery terminals, and it's just another step
before launch. *The wiring is generally half birdsnest and half done right.


Is a knife switch a good thing? *Should I put a mondo fuse in line, too?
Just in case.


No - simpler to use a circuit breaker panel - you can get one at West
Marine for $20 - water proof, simple and easy to install.

http://tinyurl.com/pvl22j

There are others around - Defender sells one that's good, but it's a
little more pricey.

Don White's boat (which was mine at one time) has a open type fused
circuit panel that isn't water proof, but is protected from the
weather - I don't think that's what you are looking for.


Exactly. That's what I did from a glass Bar Fuse right to a Blade Type
Marine Panel. 10 stops any amp rating. Placed it near, and switched
wires. If in doubt, do a ground-out test with a light. Last thing on
will be the blower, but it's supposed to rain here for next 3 days.

SteveB[_2_] May 27th 09 03:06 AM

Boat wiring questions
 

"Wizard of Woodstock" wrote in message
...
On Tue, 26 May 2009 16:35:27 -0600, "SteveB"
wrote:

I feel like I live on another planet. Our climate here is such that
corrosion and a lot of factors are not applicable. Yes, I know it is good
to have everything fused. My question was the ease at which the whole
system can be turned off versus the now thing of clamping three terminals
on
a battery lug with a wing nut.


http://tinyurl.com/pclp2f


TYVM. The big copper knife switch clonker which had a clamp, then a knife
switch, then another battery post was $38 at NAPA.

Steve



Wizard of Woodstock May 27th 09 03:28 AM

Boat wiring questions
 
On Tue, 26 May 2009 20:06:51 -0600, "SteveB"
wrote:


"Wizard of Woodstock" wrote in message
.. .
On Tue, 26 May 2009 16:35:27 -0600, "SteveB"
wrote:

I feel like I live on another planet. Our climate here is such that
corrosion and a lot of factors are not applicable. Yes, I know it is good
to have everything fused. My question was the ease at which the whole
system can be turned off versus the now thing of clamping three terminals
on
a battery lug with a wing nut.


http://tinyurl.com/pclp2f


TYVM. The big copper knife switch clonker which had a clamp, then a knife
switch, then another battery post was $38 at NAPA.


Maye I don't fully grasp your definition of "knife" switch.

Are you talking about something like this?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Knife_switch

Wizard of Woodstock May 27th 09 04:03 AM

Boat wiring questions
 
On Tue, 26 May 2009 22:57:16 -0400, wrote:

On Tue, 26 May 2009 22:28:46 -0400, Wizard of Woodstock
wrote:

On Tue, 26 May 2009 20:06:51 -0600, "SteveB"
wrote:


"Wizard of Woodstock" wrote in message
...
On Tue, 26 May 2009 16:35:27 -0600, "SteveB"
wrote:

I feel like I live on another planet. Our climate here is such that
corrosion and a lot of factors are not applicable. Yes, I know it is good
to have everything fused. My question was the ease at which the whole
system can be turned off versus the now thing of clamping three terminals
on
a battery lug with a wing nut.

http://tinyurl.com/pclp2f

TYVM. The big copper knife switch clonker which had a clamp, then a knife
switch, then another battery post was $38 at NAPA.


Maye I don't fully grasp your definition of "knife" switch.

Are you talking about something like this?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Knife_switch



More like this
http://tinyurl.com/q6l5dt


I would think this would be a better choice.

http://www.utopiatools.com/-strse-41...ect/Detail.bok

BAR[_2_] May 27th 09 04:12 AM

Boat wiring questions
 
wrote:
On Tue, 26 May 2009 22:28:46 -0400, Wizard of Woodstock
wrote:

On Tue, 26 May 2009 20:06:51 -0600, "SteveB"
wrote:

"Wizard of Woodstock" wrote in message
...
On Tue, 26 May 2009 16:35:27 -0600, "SteveB"
wrote:

I feel like I live on another planet. Our climate here is such that
corrosion and a lot of factors are not applicable. Yes, I know it is good
to have everything fused. My question was the ease at which the whole
system can be turned off versus the now thing of clamping three terminals
on
a battery lug with a wing nut.
http://tinyurl.com/pclp2f
TYVM. The big copper knife switch clonker which had a clamp, then a knife
switch, then another battery post was $38 at NAPA.

Maye I don't fully grasp your definition of "knife" switch.

Are you talking about something like this?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Knife_switch



More like this
http://tinyurl.com/q6l5dt


Make you get a stick to operate that switch.

Calif Bill[_2_] May 27th 09 06:50 AM

Boat wiring questions
 

wrote in message
...
On Tue, 26 May 2009 23:03:13 -0400, Wizard of Woodstock
wrote:

On Tue, 26 May 2009 22:57:16 -0400, wrote:

On Tue, 26 May 2009 22:28:46 -0400, Wizard of Woodstock
wrote:

On Tue, 26 May 2009 20:06:51 -0600, "SteveB"
wrote:


"Wizard of Woodstock" wrote in message
om...
On Tue, 26 May 2009 16:35:27 -0600, "SteveB"
wrote:

I feel like I live on another planet. Our climate here is such that
corrosion and a lot of factors are not applicable. Yes, I know it is
good
to have everything fused. My question was the ease at which the
whole
system can be turned off versus the now thing of clamping three
terminals
on
a battery lug with a wing nut.

http://tinyurl.com/pclp2f

TYVM. The big copper knife switch clonker which had a clamp, then a
knife
switch, then another battery post was $38 at NAPA.

Maye I don't fully grasp your definition of "knife" switch.

Are you talking about something like this?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Knife_switch


More like this
http://tinyurl.com/q6l5dt


I would think this would be a better choice.

http://www.utopiatools.com/-strse-41...ect/Detail.bok



Personally I think these things are just one more thing to fail.
... but I don't store my boat.
I trust the ignition switch and the lamp switch to disconnect my
battery from the load,


http://www.westmarine.com/webapp/wcs...9&classNum=297




jim7856 May 27th 09 11:36 AM

Boat wiring questions
 
Wizard of Woodstock wrote:
On Tue, 26 May 2009 20:06:51 -0600, "SteveB"
wrote:

"Wizard of Woodstock" wrote in message
...
On Tue, 26 May 2009 16:35:27 -0600, "SteveB"
wrote:

I feel like I live on another planet. Our climate here is such that
corrosion and a lot of factors are not applicable. Yes, I know it is good
to have everything fused. My question was the ease at which the whole
system can be turned off versus the now thing of clamping three terminals
on
a battery lug with a wing nut.
http://tinyurl.com/pclp2f

TYVM. The big copper knife switch clonker which had a clamp, then a knife
switch, then another battery post was $38 at NAPA.


Maye I don't fully grasp your definition of "knife" switch.

Are you talking about something like this?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Knife_switch


Wouldn't want one of those things within 10 feet of a location that
might have petrol vapours. ( hope I spelled it right for our Canadian
friends)

jim7856 May 27th 09 11:41 AM

Boat wiring questions
 
Calif Bill wrote:
wrote in message
...
On Tue, 26 May 2009 23:03:13 -0400, Wizard of Woodstock
wrote:

On Tue, 26 May 2009 22:57:16 -0400, wrote:

On Tue, 26 May 2009 22:28:46 -0400, Wizard of Woodstock
wrote:

On Tue, 26 May 2009 20:06:51 -0600, "SteveB"
wrote:

"Wizard of Woodstock" wrote in message
...
On Tue, 26 May 2009 16:35:27 -0600, "SteveB"
wrote:

I feel like I live on another planet. Our climate here is such that
corrosion and a lot of factors are not applicable. Yes, I know it is
good
to have everything fused. My question was the ease at which the
whole
system can be turned off versus the now thing of clamping three
terminals
on
a battery lug with a wing nut.
http://tinyurl.com/pclp2f
TYVM. The big copper knife switch clonker which had a clamp, then a
knife
switch, then another battery post was $38 at NAPA.
Maye I don't fully grasp your definition of "knife" switch.

Are you talking about something like this?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Knife_switch

More like this
http://tinyurl.com/q6l5dt
I would think this would be a better choice.

http://www.utopiatools.com/-strse-41...ect/Detail.bok


Personally I think these things are just one more thing to fail.
... but I don't store my boat.
I trust the ignition switch and the lamp switch to disconnect my
battery from the load,


http://www.westmarine.com/webapp/wcs...9&classNum=297




Now that's the ticket. Geeze, those other guys are trying to take us
back to the dark ages. Sparks near gasoline? No, Uh Uh, nada, not good.

Wizard of Woodstock May 27th 09 11:55 AM

Boat wiring questions
 
On Wed, 27 May 2009 06:36:12 -0400, jim7856 wrote:

Wizard of Woodstock wrote:
On Tue, 26 May 2009 20:06:51 -0600, "SteveB"
wrote:

"Wizard of Woodstock" wrote in message
...
On Tue, 26 May 2009 16:35:27 -0600, "SteveB"
wrote:

I feel like I live on another planet. Our climate here is such that
corrosion and a lot of factors are not applicable. Yes, I know it is good
to have everything fused. My question was the ease at which the whole
system can be turned off versus the now thing of clamping three terminals
on
a battery lug with a wing nut.
http://tinyurl.com/pclp2f
TYVM. The big copper knife switch clonker which had a clamp, then a knife
switch, then another battery post was $38 at NAPA.


Maye I don't fully grasp your definition of "knife" switch.

Are you talking about something like this?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Knife_switch


Wouldn't want one of those things within 10 feet of a location that
might have petrol vapours. ( hope I spelled it right for our Canadian
friends)


Actually no although one could argue that vapor and vapour are,
speaking relatively you understand, the same thing.

According to my handy dandy dictionary/thesaurus of all things
Englishy and Etymological, the correct spelling is vapor, but vapour
is acceptable as it is part of the word vapourous (filmy, obscure,
unable to be seen; hidden).

Just doing my part. :)

jim7856 May 27th 09 12:23 PM

Boat wiring questions
 
Wizard of Woodstock wrote:
On Wed, 27 May 2009 06:36:12 -0400, jim7856 wrote:

Wizard of Woodstock wrote:
On Tue, 26 May 2009 20:06:51 -0600, "SteveB"
wrote:

"Wizard of Woodstock" wrote in message
...
On Tue, 26 May 2009 16:35:27 -0600, "SteveB"
wrote:

I feel like I live on another planet. Our climate here is such that
corrosion and a lot of factors are not applicable. Yes, I know it is good
to have everything fused. My question was the ease at which the whole
system can be turned off versus the now thing of clamping three terminals
on
a battery lug with a wing nut.
http://tinyurl.com/pclp2f
TYVM. The big copper knife switch clonker which had a clamp, then a knife
switch, then another battery post was $38 at NAPA.
Maye I don't fully grasp your definition of "knife" switch.

Are you talking about something like this?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Knife_switch

Wouldn't want one of those things within 10 feet of a location that
might have petrol vapours. ( hope I spelled it right for our Canadian
friends)


Actually no although one could argue that vapor and vapour are,
speaking relatively you understand, the same thing.

According to my handy dandy dictionary/thesaurus of all things
Englishy and Etymological, the correct spelling is vapor, but vapour
is acceptable as it is part of the word vapourous (filmy, obscure,
unable to be seen; hidden).

Just doing my part. :)


Thanks. Now if Donny would favour us with his opinion we can wrape up
this sillie discussione.


Reginald P. Smithers III, Esq.[_6_] May 27th 09 12:35 PM

Boat wiring questions
 
Wizard of Woodstock wrote:
On Wed, 27 May 2009 06:36:12 -0400, jim7856 wrote:

Wizard of Woodstock wrote:
On Tue, 26 May 2009 20:06:51 -0600, "SteveB"
wrote:

"Wizard of Woodstock" wrote in message
...
On Tue, 26 May 2009 16:35:27 -0600, "SteveB"
wrote:

I feel like I live on another planet. Our climate here is such that
corrosion and a lot of factors are not applicable. Yes, I know it is good
to have everything fused. My question was the ease at which the whole
system can be turned off versus the now thing of clamping three terminals
on
a battery lug with a wing nut.
http://tinyurl.com/pclp2f
TYVM. The big copper knife switch clonker which had a clamp, then a knife
switch, then another battery post was $38 at NAPA.
Maye I don't fully grasp your definition of "knife" switch.

Are you talking about something like this?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Knife_switch

Wouldn't want one of those things within 10 feet of a location that
might have petrol vapours. ( hope I spelled it right for our Canadian
friends)


Actually no although one could argue that vapor and vapour are,
speaking relatively you understand, the same thing.

According to my handy dandy dictionary/thesaurus of all things
Englishy and Etymological, the correct spelling is vapor, but vapour
is acceptable as it is part of the word vapourous (filmy, obscure,
unable to be seen; hidden).

Just doing my part. :)


Yes, but do you own 2 copies of Oxford English Dictionary? If not, you
don't have any right to discuss the proper spelling or the Etymology of
words.

--
Reginald P. Smithers III, Esq.

This Newsgroup post is a natural product. The slight variations in
spelling and grammar enhance its individual character and beauty and in
no way are to be considered flaws or defects

Reginald P. Smithers III, Esq.[_6_] May 27th 09 12:36 PM

Boat wiring questions
 
Wizard of Woodstock wrote:
On Wed, 27 May 2009 06:36:12 -0400, jim7856 wrote:

Wizard of Woodstock wrote:
On Tue, 26 May 2009 20:06:51 -0600, "SteveB"
wrote:

"Wizard of Woodstock" wrote in message
...
On Tue, 26 May 2009 16:35:27 -0600, "SteveB"
wrote:

I feel like I live on another planet. Our climate here is such that
corrosion and a lot of factors are not applicable. Yes, I know it is good
to have everything fused. My question was the ease at which the whole
system can be turned off versus the now thing of clamping three terminals
on
a battery lug with a wing nut.
http://tinyurl.com/pclp2f
TYVM. The big copper knife switch clonker which had a clamp, then a knife
switch, then another battery post was $38 at NAPA.
Maye I don't fully grasp your definition of "knife" switch.

Are you talking about something like this?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Knife_switch

Wouldn't want one of those things within 10 feet of a location that
might have petrol vapours. ( hope I spelled it right for our Canadian
friends)


Actually no although one could argue that vapor and vapour are,
speaking relatively you understand, the same thing.

According to my handy dandy dictionary/thesaurus of all things
Englishy and Etymological, the correct spelling is vapor, but vapour
is acceptable as it is part of the word vapourous (filmy, obscure,
unable to be seen; hidden).

Just doing my part. :)


Of course, I am speaking of the 20 vol. set of the Oxford English
Dictionary, none of the "concise" versions.

--
Reginald P. Smithers III, Esq.

This Newsgroup post is a natural product. The slight variations in
spelling and grammar enhance its individual character and beauty and in
no way are to be considered flaws or defects

D.Duck May 27th 09 01:33 PM

Boat wiring questions
 

"Reginald P. Smithers III, Esq." wrote in
message ...
Wizard of Woodstock wrote:
On Wed, 27 May 2009 06:36:12 -0400, jim7856 wrote:

Wizard of Woodstock wrote:
On Tue, 26 May 2009 20:06:51 -0600, "SteveB"
wrote:

"Wizard of Woodstock" wrote in message
...
On Tue, 26 May 2009 16:35:27 -0600, "SteveB"
wrote:

I feel like I live on another planet. Our climate here is such that
corrosion and a lot of factors are not applicable. Yes, I know it
is good
to have everything fused. My question was the ease at which the
whole
system can be turned off versus the now thing of clamping three
terminals on
a battery lug with a wing nut.
http://tinyurl.com/pclp2f
TYVM. The big copper knife switch clonker which had a clamp, then a
knife switch, then another battery post was $38 at NAPA.
Maye I don't fully grasp your definition of "knife" switch.

Are you talking about something like this?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Knife_switch
Wouldn't want one of those things within 10 feet of a location that
might have petrol vapours. ( hope I spelled it right for our Canadian
friends)


Actually no although one could argue that vapor and vapour are,
speaking relatively you understand, the same thing.

According to my handy dandy dictionary/thesaurus of all things
Englishy and Etymological, the correct spelling is vapor, but vapour
is acceptable as it is part of the word vapourous (filmy, obscure,
unable to be seen; hidden).

Just doing my part. :)


Of course, I am speaking of the 20 vol. set of the Oxford English
Dictionary, none of the "concise" versions.

--
Reginald P. Smithers III, Esq.

This Newsgroup post is a natural product. The slight variations in
spelling and grammar enhance its individual character and beauty and in no
way are to be considered flaws or defects


You'd think there would be at least be one volume for each of the 26
letters.



Wizard of Woodstock May 27th 09 02:26 PM

Boat wiring questions
 
On Wed, 27 May 2009 07:35:25 -0400, "Reginald P. Smithers III, Esq."
wrote:

Wizard of Woodstock wrote:
On Wed, 27 May 2009 06:36:12 -0400, jim7856 wrote:

Wizard of Woodstock wrote:
On Tue, 26 May 2009 20:06:51 -0600, "SteveB"
wrote:

"Wizard of Woodstock" wrote in message
...
On Tue, 26 May 2009 16:35:27 -0600, "SteveB"
wrote:

I feel like I live on another planet. Our climate here is such that
corrosion and a lot of factors are not applicable. Yes, I know it is good
to have everything fused. My question was the ease at which the whole
system can be turned off versus the now thing of clamping three terminals
on
a battery lug with a wing nut.
http://tinyurl.com/pclp2f
TYVM. The big copper knife switch clonker which had a clamp, then a knife
switch, then another battery post was $38 at NAPA.
Maye I don't fully grasp your definition of "knife" switch.

Are you talking about something like this?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Knife_switch
Wouldn't want one of those things within 10 feet of a location that
might have petrol vapours. ( hope I spelled it right for our Canadian
friends)


Actually no although one could argue that vapor and vapour are,
speaking relatively you understand, the same thing.

According to my handy dandy dictionary/thesaurus of all things
Englishy and Etymological, the correct spelling is vapor, but vapour
is acceptable as it is part of the word vapourous (filmy, obscure,
unable to be seen; hidden).

Just doing my part. :)


Yes, but do you own 2 copies of Oxford English Dictionary? If not, you
don't have any right to discuss the proper spelling or the Etymology of
words.


I have both thank you very much.

Altough I understand that they won't be printing any more hard cover
dictionaries. I could be wrong though.

Wizard of Woodstock May 27th 09 02:27 PM

Boat wiring questions
 
On Wed, 27 May 2009 07:36:42 -0400, "Reginald P. Smithers III, Esq."
wrote:

Wizard of Woodstock wrote:
On Wed, 27 May 2009 06:36:12 -0400, jim7856 wrote:

Wizard of Woodstock wrote:
On Tue, 26 May 2009 20:06:51 -0600, "SteveB"
wrote:

"Wizard of Woodstock" wrote in message
...
On Tue, 26 May 2009 16:35:27 -0600, "SteveB"
wrote:

I feel like I live on another planet. Our climate here is such that
corrosion and a lot of factors are not applicable. Yes, I know it is good
to have everything fused. My question was the ease at which the whole
system can be turned off versus the now thing of clamping three terminals
on
a battery lug with a wing nut.
http://tinyurl.com/pclp2f
TYVM. The big copper knife switch clonker which had a clamp, then a knife
switch, then another battery post was $38 at NAPA.
Maye I don't fully grasp your definition of "knife" switch.

Are you talking about something like this?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Knife_switch
Wouldn't want one of those things within 10 feet of a location that
might have petrol vapours. ( hope I spelled it right for our Canadian
friends)


Actually no although one could argue that vapor and vapour are,
speaking relatively you understand, the same thing.

According to my handy dandy dictionary/thesaurus of all things
Englishy and Etymological, the correct spelling is vapor, but vapour
is acceptable as it is part of the word vapourous (filmy, obscure,
unable to be seen; hidden).

Just doing my part. :)


Of course, I am speaking of the 20 vol. set of the Oxford English
Dictionary, none of the "concise" versions.


That I don't have, but I do have the interactive volumes.

HK May 27th 09 02:30 PM

Boat wiring questions
 
Wizard of Woodstock wrote:
On Wed, 27 May 2009 07:36:42 -0400, "Reginald P. Smithers III, Esq."
wrote:

Wizard of Woodstock wrote:
On Wed, 27 May 2009 06:36:12 -0400, jim7856 wrote:

Wizard of Woodstock wrote:
On Tue, 26 May 2009 20:06:51 -0600, "SteveB"
wrote:

"Wizard of Woodstock" wrote in message
...
On Tue, 26 May 2009 16:35:27 -0600, "SteveB"
wrote:

I feel like I live on another planet. Our climate here is such that
corrosion and a lot of factors are not applicable. Yes, I know it is good
to have everything fused. My question was the ease at which the whole
system can be turned off versus the now thing of clamping three terminals
on
a battery lug with a wing nut.
http://tinyurl.com/pclp2f
TYVM. The big copper knife switch clonker which had a clamp, then a knife
switch, then another battery post was $38 at NAPA.
Maye I don't fully grasp your definition of "knife" switch.

Are you talking about something like this?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Knife_switch
Wouldn't want one of those things within 10 feet of a location that
might have petrol vapours. ( hope I spelled it right for our Canadian
friends)
Actually no although one could argue that vapor and vapour are,
speaking relatively you understand, the same thing.

According to my handy dandy dictionary/thesaurus of all things
Englishy and Etymological, the correct spelling is vapor, but vapour
is acceptable as it is part of the word vapourous (filmy, obscure,
unable to be seen; hidden).

Just doing my part. :)

Of course, I am speaking of the 20 vol. set of the Oxford English
Dictionary, none of the "concise" versions.


That I don't have, but I do have the interactive volumes.



I have the full set, plus the additional volumes, plus the CD version.

There's a new CD version coming out in June, version 4.0, for PCs and
macs. I run my CD version on the pc side of my mac at present.

Reginald P. Smithers III, Esq.[_6_] May 27th 09 02:35 PM

Boat wiring questions
 
HK wrote:
Wizard of Woodstock wrote:
On Wed, 27 May 2009 07:36:42 -0400, "Reginald P. Smithers III, Esq."
wrote:

Wizard of Woodstock wrote:
On Wed, 27 May 2009 06:36:12 -0400, jim7856 wrote:

Wizard of Woodstock wrote:
On Tue, 26 May 2009 20:06:51 -0600, "SteveB"
wrote:

"Wizard of Woodstock" wrote in message
...
On Tue, 26 May 2009 16:35:27 -0600, "SteveB"
wrote:

I feel like I live on another planet. Our climate here is such
that
corrosion and a lot of factors are not applicable. Yes, I know
it is good
to have everything fused. My question was the ease at which
the whole
system can be turned off versus the now thing of clamping three
terminals on
a battery lug with a wing nut.
http://tinyurl.com/pclp2f
TYVM. The big copper knife switch clonker which had a clamp,
then a knife switch, then another battery post was $38 at NAPA.
Maye I don't fully grasp your definition of "knife" switch.

Are you talking about something like this?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Knife_switch
Wouldn't want one of those things within 10 feet of a location that
might have petrol vapours. ( hope I spelled it right for our
Canadian friends)
Actually no although one could argue that vapor and vapour are,
speaking relatively you understand, the same thing.

According to my handy dandy dictionary/thesaurus of all things
Englishy and Etymological, the correct spelling is vapor, but vapour
is acceptable as it is part of the word vapourous (filmy, obscure,
unable to be seen; hidden).

Just doing my part. :)
Of course, I am speaking of the 20 vol. set of the Oxford English
Dictionary, none of the "concise" versions.


That I don't have, but I do have the interactive volumes.



I have the full set, plus the additional volumes, plus the CD version.

There's a new CD version coming out in June, version 4.0, for PCs and
macs. I run my CD version on the pc side of my mac at present.


Ok, See Wizard, if you don't have all of that, you are not allowed to
comment on anything. NADA, NOTHING, unless you got your Master from
Yale, than that trumps the full set, plus the additional volumes, plus
the CD version.

--
Reginald P. Smithers III, Esq.

This Newsgroup post is a natural product. The slight variations in
spelling and grammar enhance its individual character and beauty and in
no way are to be considered flaws or defects

jim7856 May 27th 09 02:38 PM

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HK wrote:
Wizard of Woodstock wrote:
On Wed, 27 May 2009 07:36:42 -0400, "Reginald P. Smithers III, Esq."
wrote:

Wizard of Woodstock wrote:
On Wed, 27 May 2009 06:36:12 -0400, jim7856 wrote:

Wizard of Woodstock wrote:
On Tue, 26 May 2009 20:06:51 -0600, "SteveB"
wrote:

"Wizard of Woodstock" wrote in message
...
On Tue, 26 May 2009 16:35:27 -0600, "SteveB"
wrote:

I feel like I live on another planet. Our climate here is such
that
corrosion and a lot of factors are not applicable. Yes, I know
it is good
to have everything fused. My question was the ease at which
the whole
system can be turned off versus the now thing of clamping three
terminals on
a battery lug with a wing nut.
http://tinyurl.com/pclp2f
TYVM. The big copper knife switch clonker which had a clamp,
then a knife switch, then another battery post was $38 at NAPA.
Maye I don't fully grasp your definition of "knife" switch.

Are you talking about something like this?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Knife_switch
Wouldn't want one of those things within 10 feet of a location that
might have petrol vapours. ( hope I spelled it right for our
Canadian friends)
Actually no although one could argue that vapor and vapour are,
speaking relatively you understand, the same thing.

According to my handy dandy dictionary/thesaurus of all things
Englishy and Etymological, the correct spelling is vapor, but vapour
is acceptable as it is part of the word vapourous (filmy, obscure,
unable to be seen; hidden).

Just doing my part. :)
Of course, I am speaking of the 20 vol. set of the Oxford English
Dictionary, none of the "concise" versions.


That I don't have, but I do have the interactive volumes.



I have the full set, plus the additional volumes, plus the CD version.

There's a new CD version coming out in June, version 4.0, for PCs and
macs. I run my CD version on the pc side of my mac at present.


I am so.....so impressed. Leave it to Harrie to have the bestest and
mostest dictionary. No wonder you are such a good speller.

D.Duck May 27th 09 02:38 PM

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"Wizard of Woodstock" wrote in message
...
On Wed, 27 May 2009 07:35:25 -0400, "Reginald P. Smithers III, Esq."
wrote:

Wizard of Woodstock wrote:
On Wed, 27 May 2009 06:36:12 -0400, jim7856 wrote:

Wizard of Woodstock wrote:
On Tue, 26 May 2009 20:06:51 -0600, "SteveB"
wrote:

"Wizard of Woodstock" wrote in message
...
On Tue, 26 May 2009 16:35:27 -0600, "SteveB"
wrote:

I feel like I live on another planet. Our climate here is such
that
corrosion and a lot of factors are not applicable. Yes, I know it
is good
to have everything fused. My question was the ease at which the
whole
system can be turned off versus the now thing of clamping three
terminals
on
a battery lug with a wing nut.
http://tinyurl.com/pclp2f
TYVM. The big copper knife switch clonker which had a clamp, then a
knife
switch, then another battery post was $38 at NAPA.
Maye I don't fully grasp your definition of "knife" switch.

Are you talking about something like this?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Knife_switch
Wouldn't want one of those things within 10 feet of a location that
might have petrol vapours. ( hope I spelled it right for our Canadian
friends)

Actually no although one could argue that vapor and vapour are,
speaking relatively you understand, the same thing.

According to my handy dandy dictionary/thesaurus of all things
Englishy and Etymological, the correct spelling is vapor, but vapour
is acceptable as it is part of the word vapourous (filmy, obscure,
unable to be seen; hidden).

Just doing my part. :)


Yes, but do you own 2 copies of Oxford English Dictionary? If not, you
don't have any right to discuss the proper spelling or the Etymology of
words.


I have both thank you very much.

Altough I understand that they won't be printing any more hard cover
dictionaries. I could be wrong though.



"Altough"? Better crack one of those books. 8)



[email protected] May 27th 09 02:40 PM

Boat wiring questions
 
On May 27, 9:38*am, jim7856 wrote:
HK wrote:
Wizard of Woodstock wrote:
On Wed, 27 May 2009 07:36:42 -0400, "Reginald P. Smithers III, Esq."
wrote:


Wizard of Woodstock wrote:
On Wed, 27 May 2009 06:36:12 -0400, jim7856 wrote:


Wizard of Woodstock wrote:
On Tue, 26 May 2009 20:06:51 -0600, "SteveB"
wrote:


"Wizard of Woodstock" wrote in message
news:8pvo15dqt5kv54isucvjv0lt94bnk79mr7@4ax .com...
On Tue, 26 May 2009 16:35:27 -0600, "SteveB"
wrote:


I feel like I live on another planet. *Our climate here is such
that
corrosion and a lot of factors are not applicable. *Yes, I know
it is good
to have everything fused. *My question was the ease at which
the whole
system can be turned off versus the now thing of clamping three
terminals on
a battery lug with a wing nut.
http://tinyurl.com/pclp2f
TYVM. *The big copper knife switch clonker which had a clamp,
then a knife switch, then another battery post was $38 at NAPA.
Maye I don't fully grasp your definition of "knife" switch.


Are you talking about something like this?


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Knife_switch
Wouldn't want one of those things within 10 feet of a location that
might have petrol vapours. ( hope I spelled it right for our
Canadian friends)
Actually no although one could argue that vapor and vapour are,
speaking relatively you understand, the same thing.


According to my handy dandy dictionary/thesaurus of all things
Englishy and Etymological, the correct spelling is vapor, but vapour
is acceptable as it is part of the word vapourous (filmy, obscure,
unable to be seen; hidden).


Just doing my part. *:)
Of course, I am speaking of the 20 vol. set of the Oxford English
Dictionary, none of the "concise" versions.


That I don't have, but I do have the interactive volumes.


I have the full set, plus the additional volumes, plus the CD version.


There's a new CD version coming out in June, version 4.0, for PCs and
macs. I run my CD version on the pc side of my mac at present.


I am so.....so impressed. Leave it to Harrie to have the bestest and
mostest dictionary. No wonder you are such a good speller.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -


And everything else that anybody else has is simply awful!

SteveB[_2_] May 27th 09 03:25 PM

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"Wizard of Woodstock" wrote in message
...
On Tue, 26 May 2009 20:06:51 -0600, "SteveB"
wrote:


"Wizard of Woodstock" wrote in message
. ..
On Tue, 26 May 2009 16:35:27 -0600, "SteveB"
wrote:

I feel like I live on another planet. Our climate here is such that
corrosion and a lot of factors are not applicable. Yes, I know it is
good
to have everything fused. My question was the ease at which the whole
system can be turned off versus the now thing of clamping three
terminals
on
a battery lug with a wing nut.

http://tinyurl.com/pclp2f


TYVM. The big copper knife switch clonker which had a clamp, then a knife
switch, then another battery post was $38 at NAPA.


Maye I don't fully grasp your definition of "knife" switch.

Are you talking about something like this?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Knife_switch


A knife switch is just a straight piece of copper that looks like a knife.
On one end it is bolted to two strips of copper so it rotates. On the other
it fits BETWEEN two strips of copper. It is usually bolted on a board or
base. You've probably seen them in electrical panels. Not real common, yet
still used.


http://shop.vetcosurplus.com/catalog...78442453c10a7d

As you can see, this one is much more complicated than the one you
suggested.

Steve



SteveB[_2_] May 27th 09 03:26 PM

Boat wiring questions
 

"Wizard of Woodstock" wrote in message
...
On Tue, 26 May 2009 22:57:16 -0400, wrote:

On Tue, 26 May 2009 22:28:46 -0400, Wizard of Woodstock
wrote:

On Tue, 26 May 2009 20:06:51 -0600, "SteveB"
wrote:


"Wizard of Woodstock" wrote in message
m...
On Tue, 26 May 2009 16:35:27 -0600, "SteveB"
wrote:

I feel like I live on another planet. Our climate here is such that
corrosion and a lot of factors are not applicable. Yes, I know it is
good
to have everything fused. My question was the ease at which the whole
system can be turned off versus the now thing of clamping three
terminals
on
a battery lug with a wing nut.

http://tinyurl.com/pclp2f

TYVM. The big copper knife switch clonker which had a clamp, then a
knife
switch, then another battery post was $38 at NAPA.

Maye I don't fully grasp your definition of "knife" switch.

Are you talking about something like this?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Knife_switch



More like this
http://tinyurl.com/q6l5dt


I would think this would be a better choice.

http://www.utopiatools.com/-strse-41...ect/Detail.bok


I like the first one you suggested.



HK May 27th 09 04:39 PM

Boat wiring questions
 
wrote:
On Wed, 27 May 2009 09:26:26 -0400, Wizard of Woodstock
wrote:

On Wed, 27 May 2009 07:35:25 -0400, "Reginald P. Smithers III, Esq."
wrote:

Wizard of Woodstock wrote:
On Wed, 27 May 2009 06:36:12 -0400, jim7856 wrote:

Wizard of Woodstock wrote:
On Tue, 26 May 2009 20:06:51 -0600, "SteveB"
wrote:

"Wizard of Woodstock" wrote in message
...
On Tue, 26 May 2009 16:35:27 -0600, "SteveB"
wrote:

I feel like I live on another planet. Our climate here is such that
corrosion and a lot of factors are not applicable. Yes, I know it is good
to have everything fused. My question was the ease at which the whole
system can be turned off versus the now thing of clamping three terminals
on
a battery lug with a wing nut.
http://tinyurl.com/pclp2f
TYVM. The big copper knife switch clonker which had a clamp, then a knife
switch, then another battery post was $38 at NAPA.
Maye I don't fully grasp your definition of "knife" switch.

Are you talking about something like this?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Knife_switch
Wouldn't want one of those things within 10 feet of a location that
might have petrol vapours. ( hope I spelled it right for our Canadian
friends)
Actually no although one could argue that vapor and vapour are,
speaking relatively you understand, the same thing.

According to my handy dandy dictionary/thesaurus of all things
Englishy and Etymological, the correct spelling is vapor, but vapour
is acceptable as it is part of the word vapourous (filmy, obscure,
unable to be seen; hidden).

Just doing my part. :)
Yes, but do you own 2 copies of Oxford English Dictionary? If not, you
don't have any right to discuss the proper spelling or the Etymology of
words.

I have both thank you very much.

Altough I understand that they won't be printing any more hard cover
dictionaries. I could be wrong though.


Yes they are obsolete. We awl half speel cheepers now



I'd hate to see the publishers of the OED give up publishing the
hardbound edition. I know the Third Edition has been underway for some
time, and I certainly will buy one when it becomes available. If it
becomes available. The Second Edition has been in print for 20 years and
although there have been "Additions," it would be nice to have the new set.

It is not a good thing that our society seems to be going the route of
"electronically published only." There are millions of important works
that are not available to the public electronically, but are only
available at or through a good library. There are also many downsides to
"studying" or "researching" on the computer when compared to researching
in a proper library. As an example, my wife's research paper for her
doctorate has about 200 bibliographic cites, and the source of most of
these were the LC and various university libraries. Not that much was
available on-line, and yet her subject area is a contemporary "hot
button." When I need to do some serious research for a speech or paper,
I head to the LC.

Every good writer I know has a number of proper dictionaries handy. Many
have the hardbound OED. Some use the on-line version. Some use the CD
version.

Hey...the hardbound OED is an expensive purchase new...why, it sells for
as much as a television set or a video game player and a handful of
games. Maybe that's why so many kids can play video games but are damned
close to functionally illiterate.

Oh...etymology. While the OED is a good source of abbreviated
etymologies, it is not considered *the* definitive work on the history
of words. In fact, no single volume on etymology even comes close to
being definitive.

jim7856 May 27th 09 04:40 PM

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wrote:
On Wed, 27 May 2009 06:41:52 -0400, jim7856 wrote:

Calif Bill wrote:
wrote in message
...
On Tue, 26 May 2009 23:03:13 -0400, Wizard of Woodstock
wrote:

On Tue, 26 May 2009 22:57:16 -0400,
wrote:

On Tue, 26 May 2009 22:28:46 -0400, Wizard of Woodstock
wrote:

On Tue, 26 May 2009 20:06:51 -0600, "SteveB"
wrote:

"Wizard of Woodstock" wrote in message
...
On Tue, 26 May 2009 16:35:27 -0600, "SteveB"
wrote:

I feel like I live on another planet. Our climate here is such that
corrosion and a lot of factors are not applicable. Yes, I know it is
good
to have everything fused. My question was the ease at which the
whole
system can be turned off versus the now thing of clamping three
terminals
on
a battery lug with a wing nut.
http://tinyurl.com/pclp2f
TYVM. The big copper knife switch clonker which had a clamp, then a
knife
switch, then another battery post was $38 at NAPA.
Maye I don't fully grasp your definition of "knife" switch.

Are you talking about something like this?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Knife_switch
More like this
http://tinyurl.com/q6l5dt
I would think this would be a better choice.

http://www.utopiatools.com/-strse-41...ect/Detail.bok
Personally I think these things are just one more thing to fail.
... but I don't store my boat.
I trust the ignition switch and the lamp switch to disconnect my
battery from the load,
http://www.westmarine.com/webapp/wcs...9&classNum=297



Now that's the ticket. Geeze, those other guys are trying to take us
back to the dark ages. Sparks near gasoline? No, Uh Uh, nada, not good.



What makes you think that switch is explosion proof?


The mfrs. data sheet says it is. That's all I have to go on.

[email protected] May 27th 09 04:45 PM

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On May 27, 11:39*am, HK wrote:
wrote:
On Wed, 27 May 2009 09:26:26 -0400, Wizard of Woodstock
wrote:


On Wed, 27 May 2009 07:35:25 -0400, "Reginald P. Smithers III, Esq."
wrote:


Wizard of Woodstock wrote:
On Wed, 27 May 2009 06:36:12 -0400, jim7856 wrote:


Wizard of Woodstock wrote:
On Tue, 26 May 2009 20:06:51 -0600, "SteveB"
wrote:


"Wizard of Woodstock" wrote in message
news:8pvo15dqt5kv54isucvjv0lt94bnk79mr7@4ax .com...
On Tue, 26 May 2009 16:35:27 -0600, "SteveB"
wrote:


I feel like I live on another planet. *Our climate here is such that
corrosion and a lot of factors are not applicable. *Yes, I know it is good
to have everything fused. *My question was the ease at which the whole
system can be turned off versus the now thing of clamping three terminals
on
a battery lug with a wing nut.
http://tinyurl.com/pclp2f
TYVM. *The big copper knife switch clonker which had a clamp, then a knife
switch, then another battery post was $38 at NAPA.
Maye I don't fully grasp your definition of "knife" switch.


Are you talking about something like this?


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Knife_switch
Wouldn't want one of those things within 10 feet of a location that
might have petrol vapours. ( hope I spelled it right for our Canadian
friends)
Actually no although one could argue that vapor and vapour are,
speaking relatively you understand, the same thing.


According to my handy dandy dictionary/thesaurus of all things
Englishy and Etymological, the correct spelling is vapor, but vapour
is acceptable as it is part of the word vapourous (filmy, obscure,
unable to be seen; hidden).


Just doing my part. *:)
Yes, but do you own 2 copies of Oxford English Dictionary? *If not, you
don't have any right to discuss the proper spelling or the Etymology of
words.
I have both thank you very much.


Altough I understand that they won't be printing any more hard cover
dictionaries. I could be wrong though.


Yes they are obsolete. We awl half speel cheepers now


I'd hate to see the publishers of the OED give up publishing the
hardbound edition. I know the Third Edition has been underway for some
time, and I certainly will buy one when it becomes available. If it
becomes available. The Second Edition has been in print for 20 years and
although there have been "Additions," it would be nice to have the new set.


Don White May 27th 09 04:46 PM

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"jim7856" wrote in message
...
Wizard of Woodstock wrote:
On Wed, 27 May 2009 06:36:12 -0400, jim7856 wrote:

Wizard of Woodstock wrote:
On Tue, 26 May 2009 20:06:51 -0600, "SteveB"
wrote:

"Wizard of Woodstock" wrote in message
...
On Tue, 26 May 2009 16:35:27 -0600, "SteveB"
wrote:

I feel like I live on another planet. Our climate here is such that
corrosion and a lot of factors are not applicable. Yes, I know it
is good
to have everything fused. My question was the ease at which the
whole
system can be turned off versus the now thing of clamping three
terminals on
a battery lug with a wing nut.
http://tinyurl.com/pclp2f
TYVM. The big copper knife switch clonker which had a clamp, then a
knife switch, then another battery post was $38 at NAPA.
Maye I don't fully grasp your definition of "knife" switch.

Are you talking about something like this?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Knife_switch
Wouldn't want one of those things within 10 feet of a location that
might have petrol vapours. ( hope I spelled it right for our Canadian
friends)


Actually no although one could argue that vapor and vapour are,
speaking relatively you understand, the same thing.

According to my handy dandy dictionary/thesaurus of all things
Englishy and Etymological, the correct spelling is vapor, but vapour
is acceptable as it is part of the word vapourous (filmy, obscure,
unable to be seen; hidden).

Just doing my part. :)


Thanks. Now if Donny would favour us with his opinion we can wrape up this
sillie discussione.


Yes, you are 'quite silly'.
Is that all?



Wizard of Woodstock May 27th 09 04:53 PM

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On Wed, 27 May 2009 08:25:22 -0600, "SteveB"
wrote:


"Wizard of Woodstock" wrote in message
.. .
On Tue, 26 May 2009 20:06:51 -0600, "SteveB"
wrote:


"Wizard of Woodstock" wrote in message
...
On Tue, 26 May 2009 16:35:27 -0600, "SteveB"
wrote:

I feel like I live on another planet. Our climate here is such that
corrosion and a lot of factors are not applicable. Yes, I know it is
good
to have everything fused. My question was the ease at which the whole
system can be turned off versus the now thing of clamping three
terminals
on
a battery lug with a wing nut.

http://tinyurl.com/pclp2f

TYVM. The big copper knife switch clonker which had a clamp, then a knife
switch, then another battery post was $38 at NAPA.


Maye I don't fully grasp your definition of "knife" switch.

Are you talking about something like this?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Knife_switch


A knife switch is just a straight piece of copper that looks like a knife.
On one end it is bolted to two strips of copper so it rotates. On the other
it fits BETWEEN two strips of copper. It is usually bolted on a board or
base. You've probably seen them in electrical panels. Not real common, yet
still used.


http://shop.vetcosurplus.com/catalog...78442453c10a7d

As you can see, this one is much more complicated than the one you
suggested.


Bad idea on several levels.

But do what you will.

John H[_2_] May 27th 09 07:24 PM

Boat wiring questions
 
On Wed, 27 May 2009 09:26:26 -0400, Wizard of Woodstock
wrote:

On Wed, 27 May 2009 07:35:25 -0400, "Reginald P. Smithers III, Esq."
wrote:

Wizard of Woodstock wrote:
On Wed, 27 May 2009 06:36:12 -0400, jim7856 wrote:

Wizard of Woodstock wrote:
On Tue, 26 May 2009 20:06:51 -0600, "SteveB"
wrote:

"Wizard of Woodstock" wrote in message
...
On Tue, 26 May 2009 16:35:27 -0600, "SteveB"
wrote:

I feel like I live on another planet. Our climate here is such that
corrosion and a lot of factors are not applicable. Yes, I know it is good
to have everything fused. My question was the ease at which the whole
system can be turned off versus the now thing of clamping three terminals
on
a battery lug with a wing nut.
http://tinyurl.com/pclp2f
TYVM. The big copper knife switch clonker which had a clamp, then a knife
switch, then another battery post was $38 at NAPA.
Maye I don't fully grasp your definition of "knife" switch.

Are you talking about something like this?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Knife_switch
Wouldn't want one of those things within 10 feet of a location that
might have petrol vapours. ( hope I spelled it right for our Canadian
friends)

Actually no although one could argue that vapor and vapour are,
speaking relatively you understand, the same thing.

According to my handy dandy dictionary/thesaurus of all things
Englishy and Etymological, the correct spelling is vapor, but vapour
is acceptable as it is part of the word vapourous (filmy, obscure,
unable to be seen; hidden).

Just doing my part. :)


Yes, but do you own 2 copies of Oxford English Dictionary? If not, you
don't have any right to discuss the proper spelling or the Etymology of
words.


I have both thank you very much.

Altough I understand that they won't be printing any more hard cover
dictionaries. I could be wrong though.


****. No more dictionaries, no more phone books. Just what the hell
are the grandkids supposed to sit on so they can reach the table?
--

John H

jim7856 May 27th 09 07:53 PM

Boat wiring questions
 
John H wrote:
On Wed, 27 May 2009 09:26:26 -0400, Wizard of Woodstock
wrote:

On Wed, 27 May 2009 07:35:25 -0400, "Reginald P. Smithers III, Esq."
wrote:

Wizard of Woodstock wrote:
On Wed, 27 May 2009 06:36:12 -0400, jim7856 wrote:

Wizard of Woodstock wrote:
On Tue, 26 May 2009 20:06:51 -0600, "SteveB"
wrote:

"Wizard of Woodstock" wrote in message
...
On Tue, 26 May 2009 16:35:27 -0600, "SteveB"
wrote:

I feel like I live on another planet. Our climate here is such that
corrosion and a lot of factors are not applicable. Yes, I know it is good
to have everything fused. My question was the ease at which the whole
system can be turned off versus the now thing of clamping three terminals
on
a battery lug with a wing nut.
http://tinyurl.com/pclp2f
TYVM. The big copper knife switch clonker which had a clamp, then a knife
switch, then another battery post was $38 at NAPA.
Maye I don't fully grasp your definition of "knife" switch.

Are you talking about something like this?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Knife_switch
Wouldn't want one of those things within 10 feet of a location that
might have petrol vapours. ( hope I spelled it right for our Canadian
friends)
Actually no although one could argue that vapor and vapour are,
speaking relatively you understand, the same thing.

According to my handy dandy dictionary/thesaurus of all things
Englishy and Etymological, the correct spelling is vapor, but vapour
is acceptable as it is part of the word vapourous (filmy, obscure,
unable to be seen; hidden).

Just doing my part. :)
Yes, but do you own 2 copies of Oxford English Dictionary? If not, you
don't have any right to discuss the proper spelling or the Etymology of
words.

I have both thank you very much.

Altough I understand that they won't be printing any more hard cover
dictionaries. I could be wrong though.


****. No more dictionaries, no more phone books. Just what the hell
are the grandkids supposed to sit on so they can reach the table?
--

John H


Old CRT monitors?

John H[_2_] May 27th 09 08:20 PM

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On Wed, 27 May 2009 14:53:09 -0400, jim7856 wrote:

John H wrote:
On Wed, 27 May 2009 09:26:26 -0400, Wizard of Woodstock
wrote:

On Wed, 27 May 2009 07:35:25 -0400, "Reginald P. Smithers III, Esq."
wrote:

Wizard of Woodstock wrote:
On Wed, 27 May 2009 06:36:12 -0400, jim7856 wrote:

Wizard of Woodstock wrote:
On Tue, 26 May 2009 20:06:51 -0600, "SteveB"
wrote:

"Wizard of Woodstock" wrote in message
...
On Tue, 26 May 2009 16:35:27 -0600, "SteveB"
wrote:

I feel like I live on another planet. Our climate here is such that
corrosion and a lot of factors are not applicable. Yes, I know it is good
to have everything fused. My question was the ease at which the whole
system can be turned off versus the now thing of clamping three terminals
on
a battery lug with a wing nut.
http://tinyurl.com/pclp2f
TYVM. The big copper knife switch clonker which had a clamp, then a knife
switch, then another battery post was $38 at NAPA.
Maye I don't fully grasp your definition of "knife" switch.

Are you talking about something like this?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Knife_switch
Wouldn't want one of those things within 10 feet of a location that
might have petrol vapours. ( hope I spelled it right for our Canadian
friends)
Actually no although one could argue that vapor and vapour are,
speaking relatively you understand, the same thing.

According to my handy dandy dictionary/thesaurus of all things
Englishy and Etymological, the correct spelling is vapor, but vapour
is acceptable as it is part of the word vapourous (filmy, obscure,
unable to be seen; hidden).

Just doing my part. :)
Yes, but do you own 2 copies of Oxford English Dictionary? If not, you
don't have any right to discuss the proper spelling or the Etymology of
words.
I have both thank you very much.

Altough I understand that they won't be printing any more hard cover
dictionaries. I could be wrong though.


****. No more dictionaries, no more phone books. Just what the hell
are the grandkids supposed to sit on so they can reach the table?
--

John H


Old CRT monitors?


LOL! Yes, that was good.
--

John H

D K[_11_] May 28th 09 12:45 AM

Boat wiring questions
 
wrote:
On Tue, 26 May 2009 22:28:46 -0400, Wizard of Woodstock
wrote:

On Tue, 26 May 2009 20:06:51 -0600, "SteveB"
wrote:

"Wizard of Woodstock" wrote in message
...
On Tue, 26 May 2009 16:35:27 -0600, "SteveB"
wrote:

I feel like I live on another planet. Our climate here is such that
corrosion and a lot of factors are not applicable. Yes, I know it is good
to have everything fused. My question was the ease at which the whole
system can be turned off versus the now thing of clamping three terminals
on
a battery lug with a wing nut.
http://tinyurl.com/pclp2f
TYVM. The big copper knife switch clonker which had a clamp, then a knife
switch, then another battery post was $38 at NAPA.

Maye I don't fully grasp your definition of "knife" switch.

Are you talking about something like this?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Knife_switch



More like this
http://tinyurl.com/q6l5dt


Too much potential for corrosion...

SteveB[_2_] May 28th 09 03:33 AM

Boat wiring questions
 

"D K" wrote in message
...
wrote:
On Tue, 26 May 2009 22:28:46 -0400, Wizard of Woodstock
wrote:

On Tue, 26 May 2009 20:06:51 -0600, "SteveB"
wrote:

"Wizard of Woodstock" wrote in message
...
On Tue, 26 May 2009 16:35:27 -0600, "SteveB"
wrote:

I feel like I live on another planet. Our climate here is such that
corrosion and a lot of factors are not applicable. Yes, I know it is
good
to have everything fused. My question was the ease at which the
whole
system can be turned off versus the now thing of clamping three
terminals on
a battery lug with a wing nut.
http://tinyurl.com/pclp2f
TYVM. The big copper knife switch clonker which had a clamp, then a
knife switch, then another battery post was $38 at NAPA.
Maye I don't fully grasp your definition of "knife" switch.

Are you talking about something like this?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Knife_switch



More like this
http://tinyurl.com/q6l5dt


Too much potential for corrosion...


Depends on where you live. In SW Utah, corrosion isn't even in the local
vocabulary.

Steve



SteveB[_2_] May 28th 09 03:35 AM

Boat wiring questions
 

"Wizard of Woodstock" wrote in message
...
On Wed, 27 May 2009 08:25:22 -0600, "SteveB"
wrote:


"Wizard of Woodstock" wrote in message
. ..
On Tue, 26 May 2009 20:06:51 -0600, "SteveB"
wrote:


"Wizard of Woodstock" wrote in message
m...
On Tue, 26 May 2009 16:35:27 -0600, "SteveB"
wrote:

I feel like I live on another planet. Our climate here is such that
corrosion and a lot of factors are not applicable. Yes, I know it is
good
to have everything fused. My question was the ease at which the whole
system can be turned off versus the now thing of clamping three
terminals
on
a battery lug with a wing nut.

http://tinyurl.com/pclp2f

TYVM. The big copper knife switch clonker which had a clamp, then a
knife
switch, then another battery post was $38 at NAPA.

Maye I don't fully grasp your definition of "knife" switch.

Are you talking about something like this?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Knife_switch


A knife switch is just a straight piece of copper that looks like a knife.
On one end it is bolted to two strips of copper so it rotates. On the
other
it fits BETWEEN two strips of copper. It is usually bolted on a board or
base. You've probably seen them in electrical panels. Not real common,
yet
still used.


http://shop.vetcosurplus.com/catalog...78442453c10a7d

As you can see, this one is much more complicated than the one you
suggested.


Bad idea on several levels.

But do what you will.


Since nothing seems to please you, I shall do just that.



Dave Brown May 28th 09 04:10 PM

Boat wiring questions
 
jim7856 wrote:
Wouldn't want one of those things within 10 feet of a location that
might have petrol vapours. ( hope I spelled it right for our Canadian
friends)


You're good on the vapour thingie, but what's 'petrol'? ;-)


--
Regards,
Dave Brown
Brown's Marina Ltd
http://brownsmarina.com/

jim785 May 28th 09 04:33 PM

Boat wiring questions
 
Dave Brown wrote:
jim7856 wrote:
Wouldn't want one of those things within 10 feet of a location that
might have petrol vapours. ( hope I spelled it right for our Canadian
friends)


You're good on the vapour thingie, but what's 'petrol'? ;-)


I thought it was gasoline. Please correct me. ;-) right back atcha

SteveB[_2_] May 28th 09 05:26 PM

Boat wiring questions
 

"jim785" wrote in message
...
Dave Brown wrote:
jim7856 wrote:
Wouldn't want one of those things within 10 feet of a location that
might have petrol vapours. ( hope I spelled it right for our Canadian
friends)


You're good on the vapour thingie, but what's 'petrol'? ;-)


I thought it was gasoline. Please correct me. ;-) right back atcha


Petrol is the way people say gasoline, but can't pronounce it. Like
aluminium instead of aluminum.

HTH




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