Eisboch wrote:

"HK" wrote in message
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This is pretty funny. The CIA is one of the least competent of federal
agencies...it ought to be trashed and a new intel agency formed, one
that might do better at gathering human intel and less involved in
trying to screw around with other countries.



Your statement is even funnier. What qualifies you to judge and declare
the competency of the CIA?
It's more accurate to state that you have very little knowledge, other
than media generated sensationalism that anyone can read or listen to,
of what it does.

Wouldn't it be more accurate and honest to state, "In my opinion .....?"

Eisboch

I am still trying to figure out what is the advantage of trashing an
organization and forming a new one that will perform the exact same
function. Even if you believe an organization is incompetent, it makes
no sense to trash and start up a new organization to perform the exact
same function as the old organization. If you believe the current
organization is not working correctly, it makes sense to redefine the
mission of the organization, and then hire a management team and/or
retrain your managers and employees so they achieve those objectives.
Can you imagine what the labor unions would do if a corporations
"trashed" their employees and started up a new company every time they
had a bad quarter or if they needed to redefine their mission statement?


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On Sun, 17 May 2009 07:31:31 -0400, Reginald P. Smithers III, Esq. wrote:


I am still trying to figure out what is the advantage of trashing an
organization and forming a new one that will perform the exact same
function. Even if you believe an organization is incompetent, it makes
no sense to trash and start up a new organization to perform the exact
same function as the old organization. If you believe the current
organization is not working correctly, it makes sense to redefine the
mission of the organization, and then hire a management team and/or
retrain your managers and employees so they achieve those objectives.
Can you imagine what the labor unions would do if a corporations
"trashed" their employees and started up a new company every time they
had a bad quarter or if they needed to redefine their mission statement?

While not referring to the CIA specifically, if the "rot" is endemic, a
management restructuring may not be enough. We have *16* major
intelligence agencies, and quite a few minor ones. Somewhere along the
line, a top to bottom overhaul is needed to bring our intelligence
services into the 21st century, and avoid unnecessary duplications.

thunder wrote:
On Sun, 17 May 2009 07:31:31 -0400, Reginald P. Smithers III, Esq. wrote:


I am still trying to figure out what is the advantage of trashing an
organization and forming a new one that will perform the exact same
function. Even if you believe an organization is incompetent, it makes
no sense to trash and start up a new organization to perform the exact
same function as the old organization. If you believe the current
organization is not working correctly, it makes sense to redefine the
mission of the organization, and then hire a management team and/or
retrain your managers and employees so they achieve those objectives.
Can you imagine what the labor unions would do if a corporations
"trashed" their employees and started up a new company every time they
had a bad quarter or if they needed to redefine their mission statement?

While not referring to the CIA specifically, if the "rot" is endemic, a
management restructuring may not be enough. We have *16* major
intelligence agencies, and quite a few minor ones. Somewhere along the
line, a top to bottom overhaul is needed to bring our intelligence
services into the 21st century, and avoid unnecessary duplications.

Nobody trusts anybody else. The CIA was setup to be "the" intelligence
agency but, they didn't want to the raw data to other organizations. The
CIA wanted to process the data and formulate a report. The intended
consumers of the CIA's formualted report couldn't wait and wanted access
to the raw data. The CIA has and continues to refuse to provide the
consumers with the raw data. So, the consumers of the CIA's data have
been forced to create their own intelligence agency in order to get raw
intelligence in a timely manner.

Now it is all about protecting budgets.

On May 17, 6:55*am, thunder wrote:

While not referring to the CIA specifically, if the "rot" is endemic, a
management restructuring may not be enough. *We have *16* major
intelligence agencies, and quite a few minor ones. *


And those are just the ones we know of.

On Sun, 17 May 2009 07:31:31 -0400, "Reginald P. Smithers III, Esq."
wrote:

Can you imagine what the labor unions would do if a corporations
"trashed" their employees and started up a new company every time they
had a bad quarter or if they needed to redefine their mission statement?

Best car I ever had was a 1988 Mercury Tracer. Car and Driver had
called it the best car under ten grand. I was a Mercury dealer at the
time, and so I didn't want to drive a foreign car. It said Mercury
right on it. It was actually a Mazda, and was made in Mexico, and to
hell with the unions.

Casady