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Wizard of Woodstock wrote:
On Fri, 15 May 2009 06:41:51 -0400, "Eisboch" wrote: "jim7856" wrote in message ... wrote: Disguised as your Speaker of the House, the Master Chef is stirring up more pudding. I believe it would be wise for your President-elect to stuff the mummy back into the coffin. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lYwZa8jvNp4 Fun to watch them dancing over hot coals. It's amazing how so many liars thieves and crazys have slithered into high government positions.\\ A couple of things stand out in my mind as I watch and listen to this now famous Pelosi news conference. In her statement, she talks about a signed oath she took not to divulge information she may received during classified briefings. She states that she has always honored that obligation. Then, she goes on to discuss information provided during the subject briefing in an attempt to cover her ass. The second stand-out. She states several times that her job was to elect a new president who did not subscribe to policies under the Bush administration. She seems to gloat and be very proud of her accomplishment in doing so. She seems to ignore the fact that a new president was going to be elected with or without her involvement or position in Congress. Bush's time was over. Both candidates .... Obama and McCain were and are on record has opposing torture. She really doesn't serve the Democratic Party very well. She serves herself. It's a classic case of hubris run amok. She's used threats, intimidation, supported corrupt members like Jefferson and Murtha, stifled ethics investigations (PMA) - she thinks she can get away with anything including lying about what she knew and when she knew it. Unfortunately for her, she's ****ed off so many of her own members, that they are gladly going to stand by and let her hang herself. It's bit her in her silicone filled ass and she doesn't know what to do because she can't admit that she is wro...wwrrrooo...wwrrrrooonnng. What's funny is that Obama, as usual, threw her under the bus by backing off on the memos. He opened the proverbial five pounds of crap in a one pound bag and now he can't stuff it back in - somebody has to be sacrificed and it's her. There's one good move the chief made. |
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On Fri, 15 May 2009 07:22:50 -0400, Wizard of Woodstock wrote:
What's funny is that Obama, as usual, threw her under the bus by backing off on the memos. He opened the proverbial five pounds of crap in a one pound bag and now he can't stuff it back in - somebody has to be sacrificed and it's her. Pelosi is a light weight, and I wouldn't mind seeing her gone, but it will take considerably more than this furor to down a House Speaker. Still, if it isn't this one, it might be the next one, and there will be a next one. |
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On Fri, 15 May 2009 07:03:59 -0500, thunder
wrote: On Fri, 15 May 2009 07:22:50 -0400, Wizard of Woodstock wrote: What's funny is that Obama, as usual, threw her under the bus by backing off on the memos. He opened the proverbial five pounds of crap in a one pound bag and now he can't stuff it back in - somebody has to be sacrificed and it's her. Pelosi is a light weight, and I wouldn't mind seeing her gone, but it will take considerably more than this furor to down a House Speaker. Still, if it isn't this one, it might be the next one, and there will be a next one. Perhaps, but I think you made the point - she is a light weight - she even makes Hastert look good and he was the Republican's very own version of Harry Reid. Light weights don't survive this kind of lying and obstruction of the truth. I originally thought this would be swept under the rug, but I'm begining to think that this may be a pivotal point in the Obama Administration - he's made a huge mistake, he knows it and doesn't know what to do about it. Plus he's not exactly endearing himself to the power brokers in the economy - there's a lot of buyers remorse begining to fester and the more he looks like he's interfering rather than assisting the economy the worse it's going to be. He needs a distraction and Pelosi is going to be that distraction. |
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On Fri, 15 May 2009 06:41:51 -0400, "Eisboch"
wrote: "jim7856" wrote in message ... wrote: Disguised as your Speaker of the House, the Master Chef is stirring up more pudding. I believe it would be wise for your President-elect to stuff the mummy back into the coffin. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lYwZa8jvNp4 Fun to watch them dancing over hot coals. It's amazing how so many liars thieves and crazys have slithered into high government positions.\\ A couple of things stand out in my mind as I watch and listen to this now famous Pelosi news conference. In her statement, she talks about a signed oath she took not to divulge information she may received during classified briefings. She states that she has always honored that obligation. Then, she goes on to discuss information provided during the subject briefing in an attempt to cover her ass. She was not free to divulge. Now that information has made it to public light otherwise, she's no longer bound to hold secret what's in the public domain. You must have dealt with this 100 times in the tech industry. It's called a NDA. When the information is publicly available, you're no longer bound. The second stand-out. She states several times that her job was to elect a new president who did not subscribe to policies under the Bush administration. She seems to gloat and be very proud of her accomplishment in doing so. They attempted to clarify Bush's torture policy as illegal and he vetoed the bill. It could not be overridden since Republicans supported the torture policies of the Bush Administration. The only way out is to elect a new president with a different view of torture. As an American, I'm glad she did what she could. She seems to ignore the fact that a new president was going to be elected with or without her involvement or position in Congress. Bush's time was over. Both candidates .... Obama and McCain were and are on record has opposing torture. That's a good point. She really doesn't serve the Democratic Party very well. She serves herself. Who can you cite within the Republican party that serves the party well? |
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jps wrote:
On Fri, 15 May 2009 06:41:51 -0400, "Eisboch" wrote: "jim7856" wrote in message ... wrote: Disguised as your Speaker of the House, the Master Chef is stirring up more pudding. I believe it would be wise for your President-elect to stuff the mummy back into the coffin. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lYwZa8jvNp4 Fun to watch them dancing over hot coals. It's amazing how so many liars thieves and crazys have slithered into high government positions.\\ A couple of things stand out in my mind as I watch and listen to this now famous Pelosi news conference. In her statement, she talks about a signed oath she took not to divulge information she may received during classified briefings. She states that she has always honored that obligation. Then, she goes on to discuss information provided during the subject briefing in an attempt to cover her ass. She was not free to divulge. Now that information has made it to public light otherwise, she's no longer bound to hold secret what's in the public domain. You must have dealt with this 100 times in the tech industry. It's called a NDA. When the information is publicly available, you're no longer bound. My briefings on variously classified material and subjects while working for the government and serving in the military did not have a clause that stated I could talk about what I was told during the briefings if the material was also disclosed in the public domain. The second stand-out. She states several times that her job was to elect a new president who did not subscribe to policies under the Bush administration. She seems to gloat and be very proud of her accomplishment in doing so. They attempted to clarify Bush's torture policy as illegal and he vetoed the bill. It could not be overridden since Republicans supported the torture policies of the Bush Administration. The framers came up with a system of government that worked. Smart guys. The only way out is to elect a new president with a different view of torture. As an American, I'm glad she did what she could. The framers came up with a system of government that worked. Smart guys. She seems to ignore the fact that a new president was going to be elected with or without her involvement or position in Congress. Bush's time was over. Both candidates .... Obama and McCain were and are on record has opposing torture. That's a good point. Its a very good point that is completely lost on the fourth estate. She really doesn't serve the Democratic Party very well. She serves herself. Who can you cite within the Republican party that serves the party well? Palin. |
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On Sat, 16 May 2009 09:23:58 -0400, BAR wrote:
She seems to ignore the fact that a new president was going to be elected with or without her involvement or position in Congress. Bush's time was over. Both candidates .... Obama and McCain were and are on record has opposing torture. That's a good point. Its a very good point that is completely lost on the fourth estate. Except think timeline, the briefing meeting was back in 2003. Any work to get Kerry elected failed, and, for the next 4 years, no one knew who the 2008 candidates were going to be. |
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On Sat, 16 May 2009 09:23:58 -0400, BAR wrote:
jps wrote: On Fri, 15 May 2009 06:41:51 -0400, "Eisboch" wrote: "jim7856" wrote in message ... wrote: Disguised as your Speaker of the House, the Master Chef is stirring up more pudding. I believe it would be wise for your President-elect to stuff the mummy back into the coffin. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lYwZa8jvNp4 Fun to watch them dancing over hot coals. It's amazing how so many liars thieves and crazys have slithered into high government positions.\\ A couple of things stand out in my mind as I watch and listen to this now famous Pelosi news conference. In her statement, she talks about a signed oath she took not to divulge information she may received during classified briefings. She states that she has always honored that obligation. Then, she goes on to discuss information provided during the subject briefing in an attempt to cover her ass. She was not free to divulge. Now that information has made it to public light otherwise, she's no longer bound to hold secret what's in the public domain. You must have dealt with this 100 times in the tech industry. It's called a NDA. When the information is publicly available, you're no longer bound. My briefings on variously classified material and subjects while working for the government and serving in the military did not have a clause that stated I could talk about what I was told during the briefings if the material was also disclosed in the public domain. The second stand-out. She states several times that her job was to elect a new president who did not subscribe to policies under the Bush administration. She seems to gloat and be very proud of her accomplishment in doing so. They attempted to clarify Bush's torture policy as illegal and he vetoed the bill. It could not be overridden since Republicans supported the torture policies of the Bush Administration. The framers came up with a system of government that worked. Smart guys. The only way out is to elect a new president with a different view of torture. As an American, I'm glad she did what she could. The framers came up with a system of government that worked. Smart guys. She seems to ignore the fact that a new president was going to be elected with or without her involvement or position in Congress. Bush's time was over. Both candidates .... Obama and McCain were and are on record has opposing torture. That's a good point. Its a very good point that is completely lost on the fourth estate. She really doesn't serve the Democratic Party very well. She serves herself. Who can you cite within the Republican party that serves the party well? Palin. Lame answers. You weren't a US Senator hearing legal arguments surrounding torture. |
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On May 15, 12:11*am, wrote:
Disguised as your Speaker of the House, the Master Chef is stirring up more pudding. I believe it would be wise for your President-elect to stuff the mummy back into the coffin. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lYwZa8jvNp4 Well, now that you've mentioned that. ... i thought the last lines of the article were probably fitting. "That’s why it's only a matter of time before the president dispenses some hearty advice to Pelosi. "Shut up and eat your waffle, Nancy." http://www.startribune.com/yourvoice...aPc:_Yyc :aUU |
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